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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26223 Posts
April 15 2024 07:30 GMT
#121
Agree with both of the above, he’s doing a good job but they’re big boots to fill. Not just Artosis, who really is a very good caster indeed. But also the dynamic that really elevates Tastosis in many eyes.

I’d hesitate to say Artosis is underrated, that would be a bit daft but I do think his abilities as an individual caster are pretty unsung sometimes, like he’s viewed as one half of the magical Tastosis archon rather than very good in his own right. He’s dovetailed with many a caster very well.

Come to think of it, when Tasteless was out for a bit and Arty was rotating with co-casters, some of those were very good. In fact I loved all of them from memory, Artosis can seemingly cast with anyone and Special’s non-biased Terran casting was especially fun. I actually feel State maybe dovetailed better with Arty in past casts, where he’d more do the play by play, Tosis would do the more general analysis and then State would add an extra layer of Protoss insight that was above what Artosis could bring if Protoss were involved.

It’ll come I think it’s just them figuring how to split roles a bit, and as I stress I think State’s doing grand. State with Gemini was also a fun cast

Hopefully they’ve more than one more GSL to work with!
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goldensail
Profile Joined May 2022
132 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-15 12:21:42
April 15 2024 12:19 GMT
#122
On April 15 2024 09:57 Turbovolver wrote:
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On April 15 2024 08:51 BluemoonSC wrote:
Less so the fact that artosis isnt there and moreso that there is very little analysis occuring in the current casts (which happens to be the void he left). There is so much more to a cast than "wow I can't believe how good Maru is" and "guys I think we're going to see GG any second now"

Some analysis would be great, because when my untrained eyes watch those games and I see Hero doing all kinds of cool, technical micro stuff only to still lose to what looks like (yes I know it probably isn't) Terran A-move really puts a damper on things.

I guess Flash sort of had a similar inevitability to him too, is it just godly macro? I feel like I must be missing something.


LOL you are probably the first person who's said Terran, and of all Terrans Maru, "A-move".

For every stalker blink and Colossus pickup, Maru is stutter stepping marines, picking up cyclones, flanking with ghosts, splitting to avoid disruptor shots...

Historically Maru has had the upper hand vs. herO, although herO can certainly put up good fights e.g. 2022 GSL S2 grand final, and just this season's group stage fight between the two.

IMO, herO lost because:
1. His early game attacks bounced off a well prepared Maru, and when things didn't go according to plan, it seems herO felt forced to double down into worse and worse gambles (e.g. blinknig into well defended positions)
2. herO often did not have sufficient AoE damage, unlike in the group stage games when he used storms very effectively.
3. herO felt tilted in the last couple of games e.g. in game 5 losing like 20 probes to that one liberator

In contrast, Maru played quite well, except in game 1 where he threw away a lead. Maru's ability to macro while microing is one of the best, if not the best, in the business. If an opponent doesn't deal strong AoE damage or back stab very effectively, he will just win.
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
April 16 2024 06:56 GMT
#123
On April 15 2024 16:30 WombaT wrote:
Agree with both of the above, he’s doing a good job but they’re big boots to fill. Not just Artosis, who really is a very good caster indeed. But also the dynamic that really elevates Tastosis in many eyes.

I’d hesitate to say Artosis is underrated, that would be a bit daft but I do think his abilities as an individual caster are pretty unsung sometimes, like he’s viewed as one half of the magical Tastosis archon rather than very good in his own right. He’s dovetailed with many a caster very well.

Come to think of it, when Tasteless was out for a bit and Arty was rotating with co-casters, some of those were very good. In fact I loved all of them from memory, Artosis can seemingly cast with anyone and Special’s non-biased Terran casting was especially fun. I actually feel State maybe dovetailed better with Arty in past casts, where he’d more do the play by play, Tosis would do the more general analysis and then State would add an extra layer of Protoss insight that was above what Artosis could bring if Protoss were involved.

It’ll come I think it’s just them figuring how to split roles a bit, and as I stress I think State’s doing grand. State with Gemini was also a fun cast

Hopefully they’ve more than one more GSL to work with!

IMO it's because Artosis is more adept at play by play, while Tasteless really shines in play by play and entertaining, but not in analysis to the same degree that artosis is at play by play, if that makes sense?

Worth noting I watch a lot of artosis' solo casting, so maybe I'm just used to how much analysis is possible in a game while still being able to cover play by play by himself.

They're all fantastic casters in their own right but good commentary requires a bit of yin and yang with respect to strengths in the cast.
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