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Maru vs soO
SHIN vs DRG
Global StarCraft II League/2024/Season 1Afreeca Stream (better) || Youtube Stream (worse)
[GSL 2024] Code S Season 1 - Ro16 Group A & B
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Die4Ever
United States17744 Posts
Thursday, Feb 29 9:30am GMT (GMT+00:00) Thursday, Mar 07 9:30am GMT (GMT+00:00) Maru vs soO SHIN vs DRG Global StarCraft II League/2024/Season 1Afreeca Stream (better) || Youtube Stream (worse) | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17744 Posts
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LennX
4572 Posts
Interesting to note DRG was 1 of the last 4 picks chosen | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17744 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24604 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24604 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17744 Posts
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On February 29 2024 18:59 Die4Ever wrote: how did soO get so good so quickly? lol he seemed pretty terrible like a month ago form is temporary, class is permanent | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
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HeroSandro
539 Posts
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Snakestyle1
43 Posts
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
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Zzzapper
1798 Posts
Wild that soO is suddenly good, I love it | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
On February 29 2024 19:18 Zzzapper wrote: soO 2-0 Byun in the qualifiers wasn't a fluke Wild that soO is suddenly good, I love it soO still has pretty weak late game compared to the other top Zergs, which can really hurt him vs the Top Terrans. But his early and midgame is as good as anybody's. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17744 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17744 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24604 Posts
On February 29 2024 19:50 Vindicare605 wrote: ZvZ such a silly match up. at least it is not bw zvz | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
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HeroSandro
539 Posts
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
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buzz_bender
446 Posts
On February 29 2024 20:27 Vindicare605 wrote: Maru's made a few mistakes in this game 2 with his build. The concussive shell that Tasteless kept talking about was one of them. researching Stim when he was going to go straight mech was another. I'm pretty sure that research was a fakeout. Man, what a comeback from Maru in Game 3... but he definitely doesn't feel like he's in top form... | ||
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tigera6
3513 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16086 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10382 Posts
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LennX
4572 Posts
But he recovered with his ZvZ | ||
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Nasigil
137 Posts
Terrible use of Vipers and Infestors - gets nothing done other than getting EMPed or blown up by tanks. Doesn't know how to ling run by. Doesn't know how to use drop or nydus to look for openings in Terran's defense. All he did was making Roach/Ravager/Hydra/Ling over and over and run them head on into Maru's well established siege lines. Of course he lost to Maru every time. | ||
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Gescom
Canada3516 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany7363 Posts
On March 01 2024 03:17 Nasigil wrote: After getting used to Serral's ZvT it's painful to watch Shin's late game against Maru. Terrible use of Vipers and Infestors - gets nothing done other than getting EMPed or blown up by tanks. Doesn't know how to ling run by. Doesn't know how to use drop or nydus to look for openings in Terran's defense. All he did was making Roach/Ravager/Hydra/Ling over and over and run them head on into Maru's well established siege lines. Of course he lost to Maru every time. Both Shin and soO. I was never in doubt that Maru is actually going to win both series. After the IEM finals, every other lategame TvZ feels just meh. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27298 Posts
To me if you want to play a bit off-standard you either have to be hiding something, or alternatively have a ‘new standard’ that’s extremely potent. Maru’s regular TvZ is no mystery at all to anyone, so I don’t see what he’s really gaining from not playing it. And even in Maru’s hands mech still seems too weak to supplant bio styles. Maybe the injury is giving him issues? Only reason I can come up with really. soO is looking better than I’ve seen in some time, so that’s cool! Hopefully he can start making a dent in the odd tournament. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19383 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
On March 02 2024 02:38 WombaT wrote: I wonder why Maru chose to play like that? His mech was good enough today and he did make it out. Equally it was tighter than it maybe could have been, and my lord someone like Serral would have dismantled him. To me if you want to play a bit off-standard you either have to be hiding something, or alternatively have a ‘new standard’ that’s extremely potent. Maru’s regular TvZ is no mystery at all to anyone, so I don’t see what he’s really gaining from not playing it. And even in Maru’s hands mech still seems too weak to supplant bio styles. Maybe the injury is giving him issues? Only reason I can come up with really. soO is looking better than I’ve seen in some time, so that’s cool! Hopefully he can start making a dent in the odd tournament. I think it could be pretty easily explained by Maru not taking his group very seriously. It's a bad habit he's known for especially early in tournaments and especially vs Zerg opponents. Considering his record against everyone in this group, it's hard to blame him, except that he's being held to the highest possible of standards. It does seem to me like he tries to not overdo it in as many matches as he can nowadays, whether that's due to injury and trying to keep himself healthy or because he doesn't have the same drive as he used to I'm not sure. But with a career as long as his, and with the state of the Korean scene being what it is, either explanation can be very plausible. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27298 Posts
On March 02 2024 12:15 Vindicare605 wrote: I think it could be pretty easily explained by Maru not taking his group very seriously. It's a bad habit he's known for especially early in tournaments and especially vs Zerg opponents. Considering his record against everyone in this group, it's hard to blame him, except that he's being held to the highest possible of standards. It does seem to me like he tries to not overdo it in as many matches as he can nowadays, whether that's due to injury and trying to keep himself healthy or because he doesn't have the same drive as he used to I'm not sure. But with a career as long as his, and with the state of the Korean scene being what it is, either explanation can be very plausible. Aye I’m not even being particularly critical of Maru, just curious. It would seem if you were just coasting in second gear you’d play something close to your regular style that’s proved very effective against these opponents recently. Rather than bring out something less tried and tested. Almost play your go-to ladder mainstays, maybe with a few tweaks. Or perhaps he’s found mech very resilient to aggression and timings and chose to employ it to make him hard to kill, and realistically if he was to drop out it would be via those things. So mech having those late game issues is perhaps a price worth paying for relative safety. | ||
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Captain Peabody
United States3136 Posts
He also said that he expected the group to be very easy and was surprised by how difficult it was. So I think some of that "not taking it seriously" applies as well. | ||
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Topin
Peru10125 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17744 Posts
 I would make one but I'm on my phone lol | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7363 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16086 Posts
On March 07 2024 19:19 Harris1st wrote: What is the reasoning behind going for Carrier and why not go Tempest with a few Vrays instead vs Hydra + Lurker + Viper? Because carriers are better? What are tempests supposed to do vs Lurkers, they have 10 anti-ground range. Tempests are only good vs Blords | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7363 Posts
On March 07 2024 19:31 Charoisaur wrote: Because carriers are better? What are tempests supposed to do vs Lurkers, they have 10 anti-ground range. Tempests are only good vs Blords On a pure dps note yes. They are also very juicy abduct targets and slow. And Tempest could snipe Vipers, are cheaper (much cheaper considering Interceptor cost) and less supply. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10382 Posts
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umelbumel
2026 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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Penev
28536 Posts
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Highwinds
Canada955 Posts
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
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Zergiica
Croatia128 Posts
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Mizenhauer
United States1956 Posts
On March 07 2024 21:47 Zergiica wrote: I don't understand, they ask for donations and if amount exceedes 40.000$, it will be carried over to the next season. But yet, 1st place reward is 3760$ :/ Global StarCraft II League/2024/Season 1Just look at the page. There is an empty chart for crowdfunding prize...... | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14001 Posts
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Zergiica
Croatia128 Posts
On March 07 2024 22:18 Mizenhauer wrote: Global StarCraft II League/2024/Season 1Just look at the page. There is an empty chart for crowdfunding prize...... Thanks, missed it. | ||
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
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True_Spike
Poland3434 Posts
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
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PartingFan
17 Posts
On March 07 2024 23:20 Cricketer12 wrote: Didn't watch the games, is Stats really back? He bested Dark in 2 long drawn macro games, so yes, he's baaack! | ||
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tigera6
3513 Posts
Also, Shin might be the only Zerg that advance into the Ro8, even better. | ||
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Durnuu
13325 Posts
On March 08 2024 00:00 tigera6 wrote: Now we only need Nightmare/Creator and herO to advance to say Protoss in back. Also, Shin might be the only Zerg that advance into the Ro8, even better. GSL back to 2016 with one zerg in the ro8 | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
In 2016 there was a season with a zero Zerg in ro8 GSL, while there was a ZvZ final in SSL at the same time. Dark's ro16 curse stays around | ||
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darklycid
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Poopi
France13017 Posts
 his Katowice games showed a lot of promise already, and it was not a flukePoor Dark though, but you never know when it will actually be his last tournament before military it seems like | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27298 Posts
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2656 Posts
Awesome to see Stats play like this again! | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10382 Posts
On March 07 2024 23:20 Cricketer12 wrote: Didn't watch the games, is Stats really back? Watch Stats vs Dark. Holy F that was legit the best and most entertaining PvZ I've seen in several years, other than maybe Rogue vs Creator. But if you want 3 solid macro games with action all game then watch Stats vs Dark. | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1352 Posts
On March 08 2024 01:00 Poopi wrote: Poor Dark though, but you never know when it will actually be his last tournament before military it seems like As an unrelated mention: Dark didn't even try to qualify for StarsWars. So I assume he already knows he won't be able to make it? (Buuuut he must be pretty certain that he can make it to the EWC, otherwise Talon wouldn't have picked him up. Kinda weird) | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14001 Posts
On March 08 2024 16:46 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Watch Stats vs Dark. Holy F that was legit the best and most entertaining PvZ I've seen in several years, other than maybe Rogue vs Creator. But if you want 3 solid macro games with action all game then watch Stats vs Dark. Stats v Dark being peak SC2. We're back 😎 | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27298 Posts
On March 09 2024 02:06 Redox wrote: Has been some timne since I watched GSL, just want to say I really like the new caster (Gemini). Prefer him a lot over Tasteless. Is that a permanent switch? I love Tasteless too, but yeah Gemini absolutely killed it and he and State have pretty good chemistry as a combination as well, plus a bit more technical knowledge too. | ||
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dysenterymd
1250 Posts
On March 09 2024 00:48 Balnazza wrote: As an unrelated mention: Dark didn't even try to qualify for StarsWars. So I assume he already knows he won't be able to make it? (Buuuut he must be pretty certain that he can make it to the EWC, otherwise Talon wouldn't have picked him up. Kinda weird) IIRC in Classic's last year before military service, he had to get special permission to travel abroad for tournaments. As a result Classic missed Katowice in 2019 but was cleared for Blizzcon. Maybe Dark knows it's too short notice/StarsWars is too small for him to get an exemption. | ||
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Gescom
Canada3516 Posts
Protoss players rejoice today. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27298 Posts
On March 09 2024 04:59 Gescom wrote: Great casting today from State and Gemini. Very nice! Protoss players rejoice today. Indeed, from bitter experience this will probably be one of few days of celebration this GSL season! | ||
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Gescom
Canada3516 Posts
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
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SharkStarcraft
Austria2274 Posts
On the other hand, when it really mattered, Classic pulled off the most perfect FFs one could ask for! HELL YEA such epic games, what a day of GSL! Really enjoyed the casting chemistry too | ||
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FFXthebest
75 Posts
However history tells us Protoss only performs well when the “prize pool” is low. (Super tournament days) | ||
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Agh
United States1098 Posts
On March 09 2024 01:32 Cricketer12 wrote: Stats v Dark being peak SC2. We're back 😎 Guess I'm in the minority that felt the series was pretty lackluster. The games were entertaining (because of sloppiness and dubious decisions) but I'd hardly call them peak. Was hard to shake the feeling that Dark was trying to play down and 'style' on him. When he looks dominant it's usually pretty scrappy and compact so it's weird to see the big tech switches. Also the one game refusal to build hydras or AA was questionable. Watching almost a dozen infestors die with no other units was pretty painful. Other than that Bunny had an insanely brutal day. | ||
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Kitai
United States885 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17744 Posts
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