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2024 GSL Season 1 (Qualifiers) - Page 2

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ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1777 Posts
February 16 2024 04:38 GMT
#21
Why the hell are they making Nice and Rex play each other in the first round
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
February 16 2024 10:06 GMT
#22
On February 16 2024 13:38 ssg wrote:
Why the hell are they making Nice and Rex play each other in the first round


Yeah rip. Probably just RNG, or maybe rigged xD
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
February 16 2024 12:40 GMT
#23
I remember with each downsizing of GSL we were questioning if it was realy necessary
Seeing these qualifiers, where you had to get 1 or 2 wins in to get into GSL, I honestly think that even 16 spots are to many nowadays.

In like 1 or 2 more seasons just everyone who signs up, gets a spot by default.
The only part that remains actually challenging about qualifing is moving to KR for a few months
MaxPax
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
February 16 2024 19:46 GMT
#24
On February 16 2024 21:40 dbRic1203 wrote:
I remember with each downsizing of GSL we were questioning if it was realy necessary
Seeing these qualifiers, where you had to get 1 or 2 wins in to get into GSL, I honestly think that even 16 spots are to many nowadays.

In like 1 or 2 more seasons just everyone who signs up, gets a spot by default.
The only part that remains actually challenging about qualifing is moving to KR for a few months

The root of the problem is that there's no new blood in the Korean pro scene for 10 years now. This is now compounded by the prize pool reduction so now foreigners like Astrea, Scarlett, and Special or Koreans who came back from military don't show up, further reducing the competition by quite a bit. Looking at the current GSL lineup, it's exactly 50/50 pre/post-military service:

pre-military: Creator, Nightmare, Bunny, Cure, Maru, Dark, SHIN, Solar
post-military: Classic, herO, Stats, ByuN, Gumiho, Ryung, DRG, soO

The only ones didn't qualify are military returnees sOs and TY, with PartinG rumored to be playing outside of Korea alongside Stormgate.

Quite a few people returned from the military but are now likely retired from SC2, such as Armani, Curious, Dear, Impact, KeeN, MC, Taeja, Bomber aLive, Innovation, Dream, Patience (and others who left who may/may not have served but have been inactive since 2022 like ByuL and Hurricane).

Currently serving military are: Trap, Zest, Zoun, Rogue, with Trap rumored to not come back to SC2. Zest and Rogue will probably come back.
very illegal and very uncool
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
February 17 2024 00:03 GMT
#25
On February 17 2024 04:46 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2024 21:40 dbRic1203 wrote:
I remember with each downsizing of GSL we were questioning if it was realy necessary
Seeing these qualifiers, where you had to get 1 or 2 wins in to get into GSL, I honestly think that even 16 spots are to many nowadays.

In like 1 or 2 more seasons just everyone who signs up, gets a spot by default.
The only part that remains actually challenging about qualifing is moving to KR for a few months

The root of the problem is that there's no new blood in the Korean pro scene for 10 years now. This is now compounded by the prize pool reduction so now foreigners like Astrea, Scarlett, and Special or Koreans who came back from military don't show up, further reducing the competition by quite a bit. Looking at the current GSL lineup, it's exactly 50/50 pre/post-military service:

pre-military: Creator, Nightmare, Bunny, Cure, Maru, Dark, SHIN, Solar
post-military: Classic, herO, Stats, ByuN, Gumiho, Ryung, DRG, soO

The only ones didn't qualify are military returnees sOs and TY, with PartinG rumored to be playing outside of Korea alongside Stormgate.

Quite a few people returned from the military but are now likely retired from SC2, such as Armani, Curious, Dear, Impact, KeeN, MC, Taeja, Bomber aLive, Innovation, Dream, Patience (and others who left who may/may not have served but have been inactive since 2022 like ByuL and Hurricane).

Currently serving military are: Trap, Zest, Zoun, Rogue, with Trap rumored to not come back to SC2. Zest and Rogue will probably come back.


Damn, seeing all those names... and how many of them were still playing SC2 not long ago (surprising to me that Byul was around in 2022). GSL feels like it's been such a desert but really it's only gotten this bad the last ~2 years when Blizzard seemingly pulled out and GSL started downsizing a lot. Even around 2020 it was still really good, GSL was still really hard and foreigners including Reynor were still interested, there were players like Patience and Dream around, and military returnees like MMA Taeja etc. were trying to qualify... sad that out of all the SlayerS terrans, only Ryung was able to break through and start qualifying very regularly for GSL, props to him.

Really sad, and I hope and wish that Microsoft might decide it's worth it to inject $50k into GSL each season so they can help pay for the studio/production and to have 1st place prizes that are $15k + crowdfunding to hit $20k for 1st place, maybe even re-expand to Ro24... though, it's pretty sad that now it's too late to start re-expanding, so many good players will have given up or lost interest and not want to risk investing their time into practicing SC2, though if it lets amateurs start qualifying and making KR GMs interested, then it might bring decent new blood in as quick as a couple years. After all it's kinda crazy how well players like Percival and even Spear did a couple years ago when they qualified, and it's kinda crazy but sad that it seems they're gone now and not even trying to qualify anymore.
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Wilshire093
Profile Joined June 2011
United States31 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-18 06:06:58
February 18 2024 02:14 GMT
#26
I'm going to be recording some VODs of the qualifiers from the replays and uploading them to this playlist if anyone's interested.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
February 18 2024 04:00 GMT
#27
On February 18 2024 11:14 Wilshire093 wrote:
I'm going to be recording some VODs of the qualifiers from the replays and uploading them to this playlist if anyone's interested.

TL formatting didn't like your link, so here it is fixed
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3co69WzlFQKaE4K9JVH5tI4gKtTtDJ3K
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Wilshire093
Profile Joined June 2011
United States31 Posts
February 18 2024 06:08 GMT
#28
On February 18 2024 13:00 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2024 11:14 Wilshire093 wrote:
I'm going to be recording some VODs of the qualifiers from the replays and uploading them to this playlist if anyone's interested.

TL formatting didn't like your link, so here it is fixed
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3co69WzlFQKaE4K9JVH5tI4gKtTtDJ3K


Thank you! I don't post often, I'm a noob at the markup. I think I fixed it in the edit.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
February 18 2024 13:36 GMT
#29
On February 18 2024 11:14 Wilshire093 wrote:
I'm going to be recording some VODs of the qualifiers from the replays and uploading them to this playlist if anyone's interested.


WOOO thank you!!
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10104 Posts
February 18 2024 14:01 GMT
#30
On February 18 2024 11:14 Wilshire093 wrote:
I'm going to be recording some VODs of the qualifiers from the replays and uploading them to this playlist if anyone's interested.

thanks! watching maru vs classic right now :D
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
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