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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
December 18 2023 01:15 GMT
#341
Right now Clem is #1 TvZ world. Maru in his very best form is still peak for me but he hasnt shown that in a long time
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
December 18 2023 01:16 GMT
#342
I am going to miss offline sc until the next event. Online games just aren't the same
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3517 Posts
December 18 2023 01:16 GMT
#343
On December 18 2023 10:15 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2023 10:13 darklycid wrote:
Clem playing really good but the games were sadly not that exciting (except for clem fans probably :p)

Clem vs Serial had games of the year. Maybe games of LOTV.

Yea clem vs serral was pretty good, i had more hopes for the finals tho.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-18 01:17:35
December 18 2023 01:17 GMT
#344
Lol Kaelaris just erased Oli from history.

Great event, Atlanta always deliver
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3449 Posts
December 18 2023 01:18 GMT
#345
On December 18 2023 10:15 NarutO wrote:
Right now Clem is #1 TvZ world. Maru in his very best form is still peak for me but he hasnt shown that in a long time

He has been #1 TvZ in term of consistency for the last 2 years or so. Maru used to have the advantage over Clem because of his lategame power, but now Clem is starting to play amazing lategame as well.
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1215 Posts
December 18 2023 01:20 GMT
#346
Congratulations to Clem!

Really happy for him. Finally the long-awaited major offline tournament win, and one including a win over Serral at that!

Amazing tournament overall, high-level play and great production. Many thanks to ESL.
Mutation complete.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
December 18 2023 01:28 GMT
#347
GG and congrats to Clement!!!
very illegal and very uncool
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
780 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-18 01:41:34
December 18 2023 01:40 GMT
#348
Amazing tournament, great production - thanks to everyone involved, casters, production team, players and their teams!

And huge congrats to Clem, of course - he has finally done what he deserved for long time now.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33509 Posts
December 18 2023 01:41 GMT
#349
long time coming!

Joyeux Noël to Clem
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3099 Posts
December 18 2023 02:10 GMT
#350
DOMINANT performance by Clem. Virtuosic win.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3507 Posts
December 18 2023 05:14 GMT
#351
Congrats to Clem. Amazing to get that offline win.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1214 Posts
December 18 2023 06:37 GMT
#352
Wow, congrats Clem!
SC2 LP Staff, Aligulac Editor, Tournament Organiser and Admin @KashimSC2
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1023 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-18 08:41:31
December 18 2023 07:57 GMT
#353
after rewatching some of the games I wonder about the soundproofing?

eg) Serral vs Clem g3 viking intercept was a little too perfect.
I wouldn't have thought anything of it but the additional attack move to the right issued is what really made me raise my eyebrow.

Also every time the casters said burrowed infestor there was pretty much always a scan the second after. Much more noticeable on ones completely idle for prolonged periods and on edge of terrain.
Just inconsistencies with instances in which it wasted stated vs when casters were occupied with something else and scans appeared to be lacking


Idk the venue setup or if the stream cast was even broadcast to the live audience but if any of the players could let us know that would be great.

Just made me think back to early MLG's it was terrible and you could hear casters pretty clearly if you sacrificed game sound.


Regardless gg's even though this tournament did renew my hate for liberators existing as a unit.
Also if this was the case it doesn't detract at all from Clem's win and performance, it's entirely the tournament organizer's fault.
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
December 18 2023 09:30 GMT
#354
On December 18 2023 10:18 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2023 10:15 NarutO wrote:
Right now Clem is #1 TvZ world. Maru in his very best form is still peak for me but he hasnt shown that in a long time

He has been #1 TvZ in term of consistency for the last 2 years or so. Maru used to have the advantage over Clem because of his lategame power, but now Clem is starting to play amazing lategame as well.

IEM Katowice Maru was at this skill level (at least). He made Solar and Ragnarok look like they don't belong there. But yeah, since then he has been inconsistent
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7025 Posts
December 18 2023 09:45 GMT
#355
On December 18 2023 16:57 Agh wrote:
after rewatching some of the games I wonder about the soundproofing?

eg) Serral vs Clem g3 viking intercept was a little too perfect.
I wouldn't have thought anything of it but the additional attack move to the right issued is what really made me raise my eyebrow.

Also every time the casters said burrowed infestor there was pretty much always a scan the second after. Much more noticeable on ones completely idle for prolonged periods and on edge of terrain.
Just inconsistencies with instances in which it wasted stated vs when casters were occupied with something else and scans appeared to be lacking


Idk the venue setup or if the stream cast was even broadcast to the live audience but if any of the players could let us know that would be great.

Just made me think back to early MLG's it was terrible and you could hear casters pretty clearly if you sacrificed game sound.


Regardless gg's even though this tournament did renew my hate for liberators existing as a unit.
Also if this was the case it doesn't detract at all from Clem's win and performance, it's entirely the tournament organizer's fault.


Doubt it. Clem has just really good awareness and did set up an extremely well thought out defense.
Also as soon as Serral moved his army towards Clem, Clem was scanning with 3-4 scans the whole vicinity around his defending army. He did that every time Serral moved and got 9 out of 10 Infestetors this way before they could fungal
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
December 18 2023 09:49 GMT
#356
Félicitations Clement, amazing games, great resilience, well deserved international victory after years of being on top
WriterMaru
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
780 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-18 11:09:19
December 18 2023 11:08 GMT
#357
Clem single-handedly raised TvZ winrate from 30% to imba-need-to-nerf-terran 40% in this tournament.
LostUsername100
Profile Joined April 2022
96 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-18 12:13:31
December 18 2023 12:13 GMT
#358
Maps should probably be more open now that Broodlords can't do what they were intended to do.

The camping style after the mid game is pretty boring.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
December 18 2023 12:52 GMT
#359
On December 18 2023 16:57 Agh wrote:
after rewatching some of the games I wonder about the soundproofing?

eg) Serral vs Clem g3 viking intercept was a little too perfect.
I wouldn't have thought anything of it but the additional attack move to the right issued is what really made me raise my eyebrow.

Also every time the casters said burrowed infestor there was pretty much always a scan the second after. Much more noticeable on ones completely idle for prolonged periods and on edge of terrain.
Just inconsistencies with instances in which it wasted stated vs when casters were occupied with something else and scans appeared to be lacking


Idk the venue setup or if the stream cast was even broadcast to the live audience but if any of the players could let us know that would be great.

Just made me think back to early MLG's it was terrible and you could hear casters pretty clearly if you sacrificed game sound.


Regardless gg's even though this tournament did renew my hate for liberators existing as a unit.
Also if this was the case it doesn't detract at all from Clem's win and performance, it's entirely the tournament organizer's fault.

They play each other all the time so it was probably just something Serral has done against him before and Clem anticipated it
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States680 Posts
December 18 2023 13:48 GMT
#360
Clem is on excellent form and played fantastic, but something smelled fishy from Dark's play, almost making me wonder if he betted himself to lose, LOL. specifically game 2 or 3, where he opened no gas 3 hatch, and had upper hand, and was not mining gas for longest time, just played ling baneling till he died.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
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