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EPT Winter/Atlanta: Main Event - Info + Live Discussion

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EPT Winter/Atlanta: Main Event - Info + Live Discussion

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
December 12th, 2023 17:32 GMT

ESL SC2 Masters Winter: Main Event

by Wax

ESL Masters Winter will conclude this weekend (December 15-17) in DreamHack Atlanta, with the top StarCraft II competitors in the world competing for the championship.

ESL Masters Winter on Liquipedia


Players

Read our regionals recap for more information about how the seeded players obtained their spots.

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Schedule and Format

The main event format of ESL Masters has been slightly revised since the summer season, but the overall structure remains the same.

Players begin by competing in the Winners Stage (16 players) or Open Stage (32 players), depending on whether or not they obtained a high seed from the regionals (see player list above). Winners Stage and Open Stage results decide which players advance to the final knockout + playoff bracket, and what position they begin in (while separated in name, the knockout and playoff brackets are essential part of a single, long, elimination bracket*).

The 8 players that advance from the Open Stage start at the very bottom rung of the knockout + playoff bracket. All 16 players from the Winners Stage advance to the knockout + playoff bracket, but their starting positions differ depending on their performance in the Winners Stage.

*Technically, the entire tournament can be drawn as one enormous bracket that combines single-elim, double-elim, and gauntlet elements.

It's a complicated format, so we've provided a detailed explainer below. Also, try checking out the official ESL explanation video, or taking a look at our all-in one megachart—whatever one helps you understand the tournament best.



Day 1 (June 15): Winners Stage + Open Stage

Start time: 15:00 GMT (+00:00)

Winners (Seeding) Stage
  • 16 players: Top players from regional qualifiers + EPT point standings
  • 2x eight-player double elimination brackets
  • Top two players from each bracket (four total) qualify directly for the RO8 playoffs
  • 3rd-8th place players (12 total) are seeded into the knockout bracket according to their placement

Winners Stage bracket #1
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Winners Stage bracket #2
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Open Stage
  • 32 players: From open sign-ups (selected in order of EPT points)
  • 4x eight-player double elimination brackets
  • Top two players from each bracket (eight total) advance to the knockout bracket (seeded into lowest round of knockout bracket)

Open Stage bracket #1
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Open Stage bracket #2
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Open Stage bracket #3
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Open Stage bracket #4
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Day 2 (December 16): Knockout Stage + Playoffs RO8

Start time: 15:00 GMT (+00:00)

Knockout Stage
  • 20 players: 12 from the Seeding Stage + 8 from the Open Stage
  • 4x King of the hill/gauntlet style brackets
  • Winner of each gauntlet bracket (four total) advances to the playoffs
  • Gauntlet brackets seeded according to the results from day 1, with open stage winners starting at the bottom of the bracket

Knockout Stage seeding example
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Playoffs Round-of-8
  • 8 players: 4 Seeding Stage winners + 4 Knockout Stage winners
  • Eight-player single elimination tournament
  • RO8 & RO4 are best-of-5
  • Finals are best-of-7

Playoff Seeding Example
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Day 3 (December 17): Playoffs RO4 and Finals

*Start time: 19:30 GMT (+00:00)

Prior to the RO4 and finals, there will be a Stormgate showmatch featuring featuring TLO, MaNa, and Moon on a separate ESL channel.



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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15972 Posts
December 12 2023 18:02 GMT
#2
Serral, Reynor, Dark and Solar all in Bracket 2
No Zerg in Bracket 1
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
TossHeroes
Profile Joined February 2022
281 Posts
December 12 2023 20:33 GMT
#3
Bracket 1 is quite weak compare to bracket 2
oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
December 13 2023 09:29 GMT
#4
nice
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-13 11:17:45
December 13 2023 11:16 GMT
#5
OK where is the mega chart Wax pls, also why is day 3 six months early
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
FCHK
Profile Joined August 2020
202 Posts
December 13 2023 16:04 GMT
#6
Winners' Stage brackets are drawn according to EPT points after ESL Open Cup #204

Group A
2nd GuMiho 2,452
15th ShoWTimE 923
10th Classic 1,434
7th Clem 1,907
6th Cure 2,045
11th Astrea 1,433
14th Kelazhur 942
3rd Maru 2,180

Group B
1st Serral 3,905
16th Cyan 620
9th ByuN 1,541
8th Reynor 1,594
5th Dark 2,132
12th Spirit 1,118
13th Oliveira 1,090
4th Solar 2,179
Telephone
Profile Joined October 2010
United States142 Posts
December 13 2023 22:42 GMT
#7
On December 13 2023 05:33 TossHeroes wrote:
Bracket 1 is quite weak compare to bracket 2


They look pretty even to me.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3410 Posts
December 14 2023 03:08 GMT
#8
Throwing the Protoss asides its 4 top Terran vs 4 top Zerg. Depending on how you look at it, Zerg is pretty favorable not because of just Serral. Dark and Solar is favored against Cure and Gumiho, while Reynor might be on peak form (unlikely) and beat Clem/Maru.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
December 15 2023 04:53 GMT
#9
Again not a fan of this year's format, where it only takes two Bo3 wins to get to quaterfinal playoff from winner's bracket but three Bo3 plus four Bo5 wins to get to the same spot from open bracket.
very illegal and very uncool
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6944 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-15 10:01:49
December 15 2023 09:59 GMT
#10
Still don't know whats going on with brackets and stuff. Have to really sit down and study how this works today

EDIT: Just saw the ABSOLUTELY AWESOME ALLINONE MEGACHART! now I get it
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
DarkGamer
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany323 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-15 12:02:58
December 15 2023 12:01 GMT
#11
I think the system isnt too bad, but i dont like that the top 20 players (knock-out bracket and quarterfinalists) just have to lose one bo-5 and are out of the tournament. I would have loved, if there would have been a loser-bracket. I know that it would result in more games, which couldnt all be broadcasted. But on the other hand we dont lose a top player because just bad bracket luck (for example byun vs maru in the round 3, cuz byun had to play dark and serral before; in this szenario byun wouldnt even place top 8 beside beeing [maybe] the 4th best player; just an "fast" example, which isnt perfect, but i hope u get my point).
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6944 Posts
December 15 2023 13:02 GMT
#12
On December 15 2023 21:01 DarkGamer wrote:
I think the system isnt too bad, but i dont like that the top 20 players (knock-out bracket and quarterfinalists) just have to lose one bo-5 and are out of the tournament. I would have loved, if there would have been a loser-bracket. I know that it would result in more games, which couldnt all be broadcasted. But on the other hand we dont lose a top player because just bad bracket luck (for example byun vs maru in the round 3, cuz byun had to play dark and serral before; in this szenario byun wouldnt even place top 8 beside beeing [maybe] the 4th best player; just an "fast" example, which isnt perfect, but i hope u get my point).


Well there are second chances in the first phase. There are always many opinions on this. I for one do like the thrill of having a real Knockout/ end of tournament kinda game. A lot more on the line that way.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6944 Posts
December 15 2023 13:16 GMT
#13
With like 10 games starting simultaneously, is there some sort of streaming chart? Is it winners stream A, Open bracket B?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3410 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-15 14:18:21
December 15 2023 14:17 GMT
#14
On December 15 2023 22:16 Harris1st wrote:
With like 10 games starting simultaneously, is there some sort of streaming chart? Is it winners stream A, Open bracket B?

Stream A and B will both cast the Winner Stage, I dont think there is any casting on the Open Bracket, but they might let us know of the updated result during the stream.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3410 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-15 15:17:55
December 15 2023 15:01 GMT
#15
Who came up wtih the "reaction" stats and how come Maru got 74 on it?
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1192 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-15 15:15:08
December 15 2023 15:14 GMT
#16
They should just display the Aligulac ratings (overall and per match-up) and have done with it.

Subjective statistics are tedious.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17677 Posts
December 15 2023 15:15 GMT
#17
On December 15 2023 23:17 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2023 22:16 Harris1st wrote:
With like 10 games starting simultaneously, is there some sort of streaming chart? Is it winners stream A, Open bracket B?

Stream A and B will both cast the Winner Stage, I dont think there is any casting on the Open Bracket, but they might let us know of the updated result during the stream.

https://www.twitch.tv/cranky_ducklings
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Ciaus237
Profile Joined July 2015
South Africa284 Posts
December 15 2023 15:47 GMT
#18
Cool unit.
The time that we kill keeps us alive
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4953 Posts
December 15 2023 15:49 GMT
#19
cyclons are so silly
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7115 Posts
December 15 2023 15:53 GMT
#20
After winning a cool game 2, Classic just decided to play like a moron and not make a battery lol
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
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