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On December 18 2023 22:48 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
Clem is on excellent form and played fantastic, but something smelled fishy from Dark's play, almost making me wonder if he betted himself to lose, LOL. specifically game 2 or 3, where he opened no gas 3 hatch, and had upper hand, and was not mining gas for longest time, just played ling baneling till he died.
Nah, these sorts of play are typical for Dark. He routinely opens with suboptimal buildorders and stays on inferior or weird army compositions for too long. To be honest, Dark had no business winning even the single match he won against Clem, but his basetrade shenanigans in some magical way again turned the game around, as they so often do.
To me it was clear that after Clem beat Serral, he will (barring some form of meltdown) also beat Dark. Clem vs. Serral felt like the real finals, especially in terms of the level of play.
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On December 18 2023 16:57 Agh wrote:
after rewatching some of the games I wonder about the soundproofing?
eg) Serral vs Clem g3 viking intercept was a little too perfect.
I wouldn't have thought anything of it but the additional attack move to the right issued is what really made me raise my eyebrow.
Also every time the casters said burrowed infestor there was pretty much always a scan the second after. Much more noticeable on ones completely idle for prolonged periods and on edge of terrain.
Just inconsistencies with instances in which it wasted stated vs when casters were occupied with something else and scans appeared to be lacking
Idk the venue setup or if the stream cast was even broadcast to the live audience but if any of the players could let us know that would be great.
Just made me think back to early MLG's it was terrible and you could hear casters pretty clearly if you sacrificed game sound.
Regardless gg's even though this tournament did renew my hate for liberators existing as a unit.
Also if this was the case it doesn't detract at all from Clem's win and performance, it's entirely the tournament organizer's fault.
The audio levels for the commentators was actually pretty low at this event, I highly doubt the players could hear that. For the interviews I actually had to open twitch on my phone and hold it to my ear to hear what they were saying lol
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Soundproofing has always been an issue at LAN events. I watch a fair amount of CS:GO and now CS2 tournaments on LAN. Players always say they can hear the crowds and casters so they use that as cues on what to do in game.
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On December 18 2023 21:52 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2023 16:57 Agh wrote:
after rewatching some of the games I wonder about the soundproofing?
eg) Serral vs Clem g3 viking intercept was a little too perfect.
I wouldn't have thought anything of it but the additional attack move to the right issued is what really made me raise my eyebrow.
Also every time the casters said burrowed infestor there was pretty much always a scan the second after. Much more noticeable on ones completely idle for prolonged periods and on edge of terrain.
Just inconsistencies with instances in which it wasted stated vs when casters were occupied with something else and scans appeared to be lacking
Idk the venue setup or if the stream cast was even broadcast to the live audience but if any of the players could let us know that would be great.
Just made me think back to early MLG's it was terrible and you could hear casters pretty clearly if you sacrificed game sound.
Regardless gg's even though this tournament did renew my hate for liberators existing as a unit.
Also if this was the case it doesn't detract at all from Clem's win and performance, it's entirely the tournament organizer's fault. They play each other all the time so it was probably just something Serral has done against him before and Clem anticipated it
random backstage anecdote here is that Reynor was watching this game, and he gave some reaction to the affect of "so predictable" when he saw the 6 dropperlords morphing in production tab. But why do I even have to invoke a progamer view? I think most regular viewers would be familiar with Serral's affinity for drops. So I think all around it's pretty obvious for Clem to be aware and be on the lookout 
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Maru is the new Rogue. Can be absolutely incredible and destroy everyone in a tournament without it seeming close, but can also just bomb out early showing very sloppy gameplay. Really happy for Clem that he finally won a big offline tournament though 
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On December 19 2023 17:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Maru is the new Rogue. Can be absolutely incredible and destroy everyone in a tournament without it seeming close, but can also just bomb out early showing very sloppy gameplay. Really happy for Clem that he finally won a big offline tournament though
Dunno. Maru has been slumping pretty hard since GSL S2. Right now I don't get the vibes from him that he'll be back to top dog anytime soon.
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Let's all have a moment of silence for the tragic losses of the many great Protoss players in this event. These players fought a futile battle knowing their only honour would be that of surviving longer than any other Protoss.
The last flame of hope extinguished after the last Protoss victory on Oceanborn by Classic in the RO8. Classic's big win that got him to the RO8, further than any other Protoss, was not broadcast. The greatest Protoss victory goes unseen, unrecognized, unaffirmed. Decades from now people will begin to claim the Protoss never existed and that Aiur was always the land of the Zerg. Soon we will see claims that the slaughter of the Protoss on Aiur never happened.
The Protoss are indeed a forgotten people.
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On December 20 2023 03:32 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Let's all have a moment of silence for the tragic losses of the many great Protoss players in this event. These players fought a futile battle knowing their only honour would be that of surviving longer than any other Protoss.
The last flame of hope extinguished after the last Protoss victory on Oceanborn by Classic in the RO8. Classic's big win that got him to the RO8, further than any other Protoss, was not broadcast. The greatest Protoss victory goes unseen, unrecognized, unaffirmed. Decades from now people will begin to claim the Protoss never existed and that Aiur was always the land of the Zerg. Soon we will see claims that the slaughter of the Protoss on Aiur never happened.
The Protoss are indeed a forgotten people.
Does Classic even count as Protoss? After all, he switched from Terran... 
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On December 20 2023 03:32 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Let's all have a moment of silence for the tragic losses of the many great Protoss players in this event. These players fought a futile battle knowing their only honour would be that of surviving longer than any other Protoss.
The last flame of hope extinguished after the last Protoss victory on Oceanborn by Classic in the RO8. Classic's big win that got him to the RO8, further than any other Protoss, was not broadcast. The greatest Protoss victory goes unseen, unrecognized, unaffirmed. Decades from now people will begin to claim the Protoss never existed and that Aiur was always the land of the Zerg. Soon we will see claims that the slaughter of the Protoss on Aiur never happened.
The Protoss are indeed a forgotten people.
Living in the shadows until they rise (again) like a Phoenix from the Stargate ashes! MaxPax for future glory
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How is there no front page TL Poster and victory slam article on this yet???
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