• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:21
CET 14:21
KST 22:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion6Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)16Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 105
StarCraft 2
General
When will we find out if there are more tournament I am looking for StarCraft 2 Beta Patch files Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets
Tourneys
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 AI Tournament 2026 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
Video Footage from 2005: The Birth of G2 in Spain [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Navigating the Risks and Rew…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1207 users

Gamers8 Main Tournament - Page 35

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 65 Next
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-05 15:43:43
August 05 2023 15:43 GMT
#681
On August 06 2023 00:40 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2023 00:38 Fango wrote:
On August 06 2023 00:26 Argonauta wrote:
On August 06 2023 00:24 Fango wrote:
Everyone forgot Maru should have lost 0-3 to Cure in GSL because he won the tournament. His TvT has been dodgy since the raven nerf


Its not the raven nerf... its his opening shenanigans, his first TvT lose vs Bunny was by his early medvac openings

His clown openings were causing him to lose a couple games to Bunny, but he was still almost unbeaten for two years. After the raven patch he started dropping games and series to everyone.

But I don't think the way he loses is related to the patch

Pre raven nerf he would open 3 raven 3 CC and even shut down Clem's double starport viking allin. You simply can't do that now.

He lost TvT dominance as soon as the patch happened before Katowice, it's the obvious reason
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3454 Posts
August 05 2023 15:44 GMT
#682
Maru opening in TvT has been so simple and laid out, everybody know how to punish him with it. Early 3rd CC and double EBay meaning you dont have enough TAnk-Viking to defend, any 2 base push will give him trouble. And his reaction to that is to send a double Medivac for backstab, and now eveyone start having 2 Vikings at home to deny that drop. Its very simple and well-thought out by everyone but Maru. He totally could delay his 3rd CC for safety but he just not doing it.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4959 Posts
August 05 2023 15:44 GMT
#683
On August 06 2023 00:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2023 00:40 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 06 2023 00:38 Fango wrote:
On August 06 2023 00:26 Argonauta wrote:
On August 06 2023 00:24 Fango wrote:
Everyone forgot Maru should have lost 0-3 to Cure in GSL because he won the tournament. His TvT has been dodgy since the raven nerf


Its not the raven nerf... its his opening shenanigans, his first TvT lose vs Bunny was by his early medvac openings

His clown openings were causing him to lose a couple games to Bunny, but he was still almost unbeaten for two years. After the raven patch he started dropping games and series to everyone.

But I don't think the way he loses is related to the patch


It's indirectly related.

Mass Raven isn't as strong as it used to be, which means that having the better Raven control isn't the guaranteed way to win TvT all the time so Maru isn't relying on it as much and is instead going for more of these risky coinflip openings that have a lower success rate and backfiring on him.

It's classic Maru. He is the better player, but constantly donates games or even entire series because he decides to get cute with his openings instead of just playing safe and drawing the game out.



I was thinking like that as well.... but the fact he does this kind of early shenanigans also allows him to become harder to predict .... even at the cost of being more vulnerable early game.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3127 Posts
August 05 2023 15:46 GMT
#684
On August 06 2023 00:40 NotSoHappy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2023 00:39 Captain Peabody wrote:
this is for some reason very funny to me


+1

90% ppl here support maru it seems

I mean I like Maru but he just won GS7, he'll be fine. and it's more fun for the scene when there's upset potential and competition at the very top
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
August 05 2023 15:47 GMT
#685
Maru falling apart?
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10102 Posts
August 05 2023 15:47 GMT
#686
is Maru dead?
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4959 Posts
August 05 2023 15:48 GMT
#687
On August 06 2023 00:47 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Maru falling apart?



yeah.. Maru destroyed by his weak early game
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
August 05 2023 15:48 GMT
#688
Maru's dead no?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-05 15:49:28
August 05 2023 15:48 GMT
#689
On August 06 2023 00:48 Nakajin wrote:
Maru's dead no?

I've seen enough Maru TvT comebacks to say Maru's never dead.

It is looking bad though.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-05 15:49:07
August 05 2023 15:48 GMT
#690
Edit: Double post
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1921 Posts
August 05 2023 15:49 GMT
#691
Come on Maru, why do you do this to us every time?!
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 05 2023 15:50 GMT
#692
Clem destroying Maru actually
Neosteel Enthusiast
BelethielQT
Profile Joined August 2022
90 Posts
August 05 2023 15:50 GMT
#693
Hahaha
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
August 05 2023 15:51 GMT
#694
Clem mindgame'd himself
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
August 05 2023 15:52 GMT
#695
Stupidest game of all time
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
August 05 2023 15:52 GMT
#696
Maru's dead I think
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7155 Posts
August 05 2023 15:52 GMT
#697
Maru and bombing out of offline events outside korea. Name a more iconic duo.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 05 2023 15:52 GMT
#698
On August 06 2023 00:48 dysenterymd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2023 00:48 Nakajin wrote:
Maru's dead no?

I've seen enough Maru TvT comebacks to say Maru's never dead.

It is looking bad though.

Less dead than vs Cure and he won there. But this is 100% over
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
August 05 2023 15:53 GMT
#699
Let's see if Maru has plot armour
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 05 2023 15:54 GMT
#700
God damn Maru TvT

Any other matchup but TvT
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 65 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
12:00
#70
WardiTV743
OGKoka 260
Rex92
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko360
OGKoka 260
Harstem 177
Rex 92
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2652
GuemChi 2428
Horang2 1459
Larva 853
EffOrt 674
Shuttle 629
ZerO 573
Stork 554
BeSt 509
Mini 497
[ Show more ]
Rush 337
firebathero 331
Snow 246
Light 199
hero 141
Soma 136
Barracks 117
Pusan 108
JYJ 96
Killer 84
Mind 83
Aegong 73
Sharp 59
Hm[arnc] 44
Sexy 40
ToSsGirL 37
Nal_rA 27
zelot 19
Terrorterran 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 14
GoRush 13
scan(afreeca) 13
ivOry 7
SilentControl 7
Icarus 3
Dota 2
Gorgc3027
singsing2378
Dendi173
XcaliburYe102
qojqva73
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1972
kennyS1372
shoxiejesuss1138
x6flipin702
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King91
Other Games
B2W.Neo1192
crisheroes327
Pyrionflax308
Sick204
Fuzer 179
hiko121
ZerO(Twitch)19
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1969
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1109
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HappyZerGling 117
• LUISG 33
• StrangeGG 28
• naamasc23
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade646
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
3h 39m
OSC
21h 39m
PiGosaur Monday
1d 11h
The PondCast
1d 20h
OSC
1d 21h
Big Brain Bouts
4 days
Serral vs TBD
BSL 21
5 days
BSL 21
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.