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[GSL 2023] Code S:Season 2 - Group D

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July 12 2023 17:30 GMT
#1

GSL Code S


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Group D


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(T)Cure vs (P)Astrea

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(Z)Solar vs (T)Ryung

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angry_maia
Profile Joined August 2020
327 Posts
July 12 2023 18:49 GMT
#2
Honest question -- is terran just dominant right now in the pro scene? Like, imo

(Maru Cure Byun Oliveira Clem) > (Serral Reynor Dark Solar Ragnarok) >>>> (Hero Maxpax Classic Showtime Creator)
DarkGamer
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany329 Posts
July 12 2023 19:07 GMT
#3
(Wiki)Portal:Tournaments
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-12 19:50:27
July 12 2023 19:49 GMT
#4
On July 13 2023 03:49 angry_maia wrote:
Honest question -- is terran just dominant right now in the pro scene? Like, imo

(Maru Cure Byun Oliveira Clem) > (Serral Reynor Dark Solar Ragnarok) >>>> (Hero Maxpax Classic Showtime Creator)


I feel like Zerg is still the big favorite at any global event that has all top players present especially looking at some of the top Terrans recent TvZ results.

Maru was in absurd TvZ form at Katowice which he clearly hasn't been since. His more recent TvZ record is pretty bad. 0-3 loss to Solar, 0-2 Lambo, and losses to Dark/Reynor. No one else has particularly dominant TvZ at the moment either. Clem lost 0-3 to solar at HSC and also has recent losses to Lambo/scarlett. He actually is on a 0-7 match streak vs solar with most of those being clean sweeps from solar and they are all fairly recent matches. Gumiho and Oliveira are extremely inconsistent. Byun has his wrist issues. Cure might be the best TvZ at the moment and he's only 60% in TvZ this year.

Terrans just do better in GSL than other events. Likely due to being able to optimize and prep their build orders.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
July 12 2023 23:09 GMT
#5
On July 13 2023 03:49 angry_maia wrote:
Honest question -- is terran just dominant right now in the pro scene? Like, imo

(Maru Cure Byun Oliveira Clem) > (Serral Reynor Dark Solar Ragnarok) >>>> (Hero Maxpax Classic Showtime Creator)

Korea just has very few top Protoss/Zerg at the moment, plus Dark and herO (the only real non Terran contenders) aren't playing their best SC2 recently.

Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 13 2023 07:35 GMT
#6
Idk if I'm underestimating Astrea and Ryung but this group feels a bit mismatched to me
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12909 Posts
July 13 2023 08:01 GMT
#7
On July 13 2023 03:49 angry_maia wrote:
Honest question -- is terran just dominant right now in the pro scene? Like, imo

(Maru Cure Byun Oliveira Clem) > (Serral Reynor Dark Solar Ragnarok) >>>> (Hero Maxpax Classic Showtime Creator)

Feels like zerg dominates both protoss and terrans, while Cure and MaxPax dominate TvP / PvT
WriterMaru
Philippe
Profile Joined October 2020
354 Posts
July 13 2023 08:24 GMT
#8
I can see Astrea beating Ryung, but either Solar or Cure is off the table at face value.
I'm just a cynical video game enjoyer who is probably unfazed by many business dealings many would find utterly distasteful, while not strictly illegal by the law as seen in a general sense in the world.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
July 13 2023 09:55 GMT
#9
I saw Neeb and Scarlett. Did Neeb want to come back very soon?
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
July 13 2023 09:55 GMT
#10
Neeb and Scarlett trying to give Astrea more NA power.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
July 13 2023 10:05 GMT
#11
damn how many probes has Cure killed in game 2? lol
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
July 13 2023 10:09 GMT
#12
Astrea could put down a battery on each mineral line and save 10+ probes from the puny 3 Marines drop and Turret.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
July 13 2023 10:11 GMT
#13
Feels like casters have been misreading this game a lot?

Saying how dead / behind Cure was being on one base, meanwhile the worker count was even, tech ahead for Cure, with no way for Astrea to close things out. Like it was a messy game sure, but I never felt Cure was dead / even very behind?

tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
July 13 2023 10:14 GMT
#14
On July 13 2023 19:11 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Feels like casters have been misreading this game a lot?

Saying how dead / behind Cure was being on one base, meanwhile the worker count was even, tech ahead for Cure, with no way for Astrea to close things out. Like it was a messy game sure, but I never felt Cure was dead / even very behind?


I feel that Astrea was in very good position when he deny Cure from the natural, but then he completely dropped the ball on his own defense, 3 Marines and a Raven kill 20 Probes? Thats unacceptable
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-13 10:22:25
July 13 2023 10:17 GMT
#15
That's like the most common overlord path on this map Ryung?

This is GSL's shittiest 2-1-1
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 13 2023 10:26 GMT
#16
I'm sorry but this game from Ryung is so bad he just doesn't look like he should be in GSL.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
July 13 2023 10:30 GMT
#17
reminder that in WTL, Ryung has a better record than Reynor, Dark, Solar, Cure, and Byun
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Philippe
Profile Joined October 2020
354 Posts
July 13 2023 10:34 GMT
#18
On July 13 2023 19:30 Die4Ever wrote:
reminder that in WTL, Ryung has a better record than Reynor, Dark, Solar, Cure, and Byun


WTL is a side hustle. GSL (individual) results decide whether he has a realistic chance in Kato or not, which does look way more important.
I'm just a cynical video game enjoyer who is probably unfazed by many business dealings many would find utterly distasteful, while not strictly illegal by the law as seen in a general sense in the world.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
July 13 2023 10:35 GMT
#19
I would rather Ryung does some crazy all-in and be done with it, playing macro game against an superior Zerg player aint it.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
July 13 2023 10:38 GMT
#20
On July 13 2023 19:34 Philippe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2023 19:30 Die4Ever wrote:
reminder that in WTL, Ryung has a better record than Reynor, Dark, Solar, Cure, and Byun


WTL is a side hustle. GSL (individual) results decide whether he has a realistic chance in Kato or not, which does look way more important.

I just thought it was funny how good his WTL record is
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-13 10:40:16
July 13 2023 10:38 GMT
#21
On July 13 2023 19:35 tigera6 wrote:
I would rather Ryung does some crazy all-in and be done with it, playing macro game against an superior Zerg player aint it.

He's pretty slow and not good at micro, I think he has a better shot playing mech than anything else.

This 3rd command center I can't even... Ryung disasterclass
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
July 13 2023 10:41 GMT
#22
Ryung not practising or his TvZ skill was just rusty after all?
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
BelethielQT
Profile Joined August 2022
90 Posts
July 13 2023 10:41 GMT
#23
What a waste of a match
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
July 13 2023 10:44 GMT
#24
He literally took a map off Dark when Onsyde play DKZ, and he was looking pretty good. Not sure why its so bad here, he want to save energy for the loser match instead?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 13 2023 10:46 GMT
#25
Probably just having a garbage day.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
July 13 2023 10:47 GMT
#26
Can't say for sure, but that felt like the worst game of professional SC2 I've seen in a while.
Hard to say if Solar is looking genuinely good or if Ryung just didn't show up.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
July 13 2023 10:55 GMT
#27
Online score of Solar-Cure: 198-200, lol.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
July 13 2023 10:59 GMT
#28
Solar, you gonna get baneling speed?

finally started!
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 13 2023 11:07 GMT
#29
Tasteless today just keeps wanting to call games over.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
July 13 2023 11:15 GMT
#30
So Solar saw the game Reynor play against Cure last night and said that, I could do worse than that?
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 13 2023 11:15 GMT
#31
i love seeing the lategame mech transitions in TvZ lately

after 15 minutes of Marines running around, suddenly a bunch of Hellbats waddle across the map
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 13 2023 11:16 GMT
#32
On July 13 2023 20:15 tigera6 wrote:
So Solar saw the game Reynor play against Cure last night and said that, I could do worse than that?

Solar probably saw his own game against Cure and thought "I can do better"
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
July 13 2023 11:20 GMT
#33
On July 13 2023 20:15 Schelim wrote:
i love seeing the lategame mech transitions in TvZ lately

after 15 minutes of Marines running around, suddenly a bunch of Hellbats waddle across the map

Against the Zerg who constantly trying to make lingbanehydra into Lurker, turtling on Mass Tanks and Ghost with some Hellbat is the play. Solar has many chance to transition, or add more spellcaster, but he just keep amove the same army over and over.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 13 2023 11:25 GMT
#34
At this point would we be surprised to see Maru vs Cure in the finals again?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 13 2023 11:27 GMT
#35
On July 13 2023 20:25 Elentos wrote:
At this point would we be surprised to see Maru vs Cure in the finals again?

wouldn't be shocked, but i could Dark, Gumigod or Byun as well
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
July 13 2023 11:27 GMT
#36
On July 13 2023 20:25 Elentos wrote:
At this point would we be surprised to see Maru vs Cure in the finals again?


Would be more surprised to see a different matchup tbh.
fealx
Profile Joined September 2014
Germany376 Posts
July 13 2023 11:28 GMT
#37
damn cure played really well today
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 13 2023 11:44 GMT
#38
Well Ryung is at least looking more competent than against Solar
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 13 2023 11:54 GMT
#39
On July 13 2023 20:44 Elentos wrote:
Well Ryung is at least looking more competent than against Solar

Ryung has a weird relationship with TvZ where he's like two whole tiers lower than in his other matchups
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3531 Posts
July 13 2023 11:57 GMT
#40
So He let astrea get to where astrea is confident and then Just Beat him?
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12909 Posts
July 13 2023 12:12 GMT
#41
Poor Ryung, that match-up sure is difficult, hopefully he can win the deciding game. I don't think he has a real shot vs Solar though, his TvZ still does not seem up to par, so it might be better for the spectators if Astrea won
WriterMaru
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 13 2023 12:19 GMT
#42
On July 13 2023 21:12 Poopi wrote:
Poor Ryung, that match-up sure is difficult, hopefully he can win the deciding game. I don't think he has a real shot vs Solar though, his TvZ still does not seem up to par, so it might be better for the spectators if Astrea won

it does seem pretty hopeless for Ryung to try and advance, but i don't think it's very likely for Astrea either tbh
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 13 2023 12:21 GMT
#43
Why do people let that nexus finish? It never survives.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 13 2023 13:05 GMT
#44
i feel like a couple siege tanks would have been a good call there
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16120 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-13 13:06:41
July 13 2023 13:05 GMT
#45
Welp. Same players as last season only herO instead of Classic and TY instead of Bunny.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12909 Posts
July 13 2023 13:08 GMT
#46
On July 13 2023 22:05 Vindicare605 wrote:
Welp. Same players as last season only herO instead of Classic and TY instead of Bunny.

Not super surprising to be honest, the likes of RagnaroK / Creator / Classic / Bunny will probably fight with Gumiho / TY / ByuN and Solar for their spot while Maru / Dark / herO (if he comes back into shape) / Cure should be the favorites for top 4 almost every season
WriterMaru
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 13 2023 13:37 GMT
#47
when will we know the ro8 groups?
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
July 13 2023 14:27 GMT
#48
Tomorrow most likely, please make it an 4TvT group.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3509 Posts
July 13 2023 18:58 GMT
#49
Maru going for G7L right now...? o_o
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
SEB2610
Profile Joined June 2022
59 Posts
July 13 2023 23:01 GMT
#50
What was ryung thinking against solar

Brutally one-sided games rofl
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2254 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-14 09:50:55
July 14 2023 09:48 GMT
#51
Astrea showed waay too many nerves... he played so badly ( Ryung was so damn beatable... just for him to obviously get 4-0'd by Solar anyway.... sad times
Cogito, ergo Toss
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
July 14 2023 10:01 GMT
#52
On July 14 2023 03:58 Gescom wrote:
Maru going for G7L right now...? o_o

I think at this point seeing Byun winning the GSL make him happier than himself winning GS7.
Hildegard
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
Germany348 Posts
July 14 2023 13:57 GMT
#53
Despite dominating, Cure looked a bit shaky in the first two games against Astrea. He lost more workers than necessary, and his defense looked weak compared to his usual TvP form. Especially as Astrea was outclassed. I thought his injury was the reason, but the ease with which he defeated Solar probably means that he just didn't put in the effort to play clean against Astrea. The commentary was sometimes a bit off. Tasteless especially just rotates the same five statements. I love him, but if I were a caster, I would probably be frustrated that he gets paid money for that. 
Would anyone agree that Showtime could do pretty well in the GSL?
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Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3509 Posts
July 14 2023 15:59 GMT
#54
On July 13 2023 23:27 tigera6 wrote:
Tomorrow most likely, please make it an 4TvT group.

Groups are out -- (Wiki)Global StarCraft II League/2023/Season 2

Actually looks very possible to have only Maru go through and have 1T, 2Z, 1P in the RO4. Would be hilarious and amazing.
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dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
July 14 2023 19:55 GMT
#55
On July 15 2023 00:59 Gescom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2023 23:27 tigera6 wrote:
Tomorrow most likely, please make it an 4TvT group.

Groups are out -- (Wiki)Global StarCraft II League/2023/Season 2

Actually looks very possible to have only Maru go through and have 1T, 2Z, 1P in the RO4. Would be hilarious and amazing.

It's possible, though I heavily favor Cure over herO (and think his chances against Dark are pretty good too.) Solar also often underwhelms in GSL, but at least he only has one MU to practice.

I think we get 3T and one of Dark/herO, but Solar making it through wouldn't surprise me either. We may well get another season with zero ZvZs.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
July 14 2023 20:39 GMT
#56
On July 15 2023 00:59 Gescom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2023 23:27 tigera6 wrote:
Tomorrow most likely, please make it an 4TvT group.

Groups are out -- (Wiki)Global StarCraft II League/2023/Season 2

Actually looks very possible to have only Maru go through and have 1T, 2Z, 1P in the RO4. Would be hilarious and amazing.


I'd love that, but I would be extremely surprised. At the very least, I expect we can dodge another All-Terran Ro4, and I can be happy for that much.
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