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[IEM] Katowice 2023 - RO8, RO4, Grand Finals - Page 59

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Balance whining will be moderated aggressively

-Wax
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33495 Posts
February 12 2023 18:46 GMT
#1161
I don't think it's totally hopeless for TIME. If Bunny can randomly have a winning record against Maru over the last 2 years, then maybe he can make some magic too.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 18:48:09
February 12 2023 18:47 GMT
#1162
On February 13 2023 03:46 Waxangel wrote:
I don't think it's totally hopeless for TIME. If Bunny can randomly have a winning record against Maru over the last 2 years, then maybe he can make some magic too.


The underdog hype is sooooo tempting. But even Maru vs Reynor, I cheer for Maru (I'm italian). Let's goooooooo(at).
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
February 12 2023 18:48 GMT
#1163
On February 13 2023 03:46 Waxangel wrote:
I don't think it's totally hopeless for TIME. If Bunny can randomly have a winning record against Maru over the last 2 years, then maybe he can make some magic too.


Bunny had the advantage of being Maru's practice partner and teammate on Team NV. The same advantage TIME enjoyed against both Reynor and herO.

Maru historically has played a lot worse vs his teammates than anybody else throughout his career. He's lost more high profile matches against them than anyone else too.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 12 2023 18:48 GMT
#1164
On February 13 2023 03:35 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 03:33 Musicus wrote:
On February 13 2023 03:31 Cricketer12 wrote:
On February 13 2023 03:28 Musicus wrote:
So with TIME in the final, the chinese viewership must be huge now right? Could very well be the most watched Katowice Play-offs bracket ever.

twitch numbers are below 30k going into the finals...rough

Definitely a bit rough, since the chinese viewers probably don't matter to Sponsors as much? Not Sure tbh. Well they certainly don't matter to Blizzard, they don't even have servers right now in China...


I certainly don't want to be cutting Blizzard any breaks, but that one isn't on them. China is cracking down HARD on online gaming. Starcraft 2 isn't the only game being shut down.

I know it's not just sc2. I've only followed the Situation and the netease Deal etc. through the wc3 Community and it certainly sounded like blizz dropped the ball. But yeah, China ist definitely not an easy market right now and we don't have all the details. So sorry Blizzard I guess :p.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3443 Posts
February 12 2023 18:48 GMT
#1165
On February 13 2023 03:46 Waxangel wrote:
I don't think it's totally hopeless for TIME. If Bunny can randomly have a winning record against Maru over the last 2 years, then maybe he can make some magic too.

and they are not in Bo7, the only Terran that beat Maru in Bo7 recently was TY, right?
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
February 12 2023 18:49 GMT
#1166
On February 13 2023 03:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 03:46 Waxangel wrote:
I don't think it's totally hopeless for TIME. If Bunny can randomly have a winning record against Maru over the last 2 years, then maybe he can make some magic too.


Bunny had the advantage of being Maru's practice partner and teammate on Team NV. The same advantage TIME enjoyed against both Reynor and herO.

Maru historically has played a lot worse vs his teammates than anybody else throughout his career. He's lost more high profile matches against them than anyone else too.


Didn't Oliveira say he practices with Maru regularly?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 18:50:19
February 12 2023 18:50 GMT
#1167
Time has done the impossible again and again, what's one more miracle?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 12 2023 18:50 GMT
#1168
On February 13 2023 03:46 Waxangel wrote:
I don't think it's totally hopeless for TIME. If Bunny can randomly have a winning record against Maru over the last 2 years, then maybe he can make some magic too.

Don't u dare give us hope...
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
THERIDDLER
Profile Joined July 2014
Canada126 Posts
February 12 2023 18:50 GMT
#1169
2.3 Million viewers LETS GOOO
Please don't fricken hack, its just a game.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33495 Posts
February 12 2023 18:51 GMT
#1170
On February 13 2023 03:48 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 03:46 Waxangel wrote:
I don't think it's totally hopeless for TIME. If Bunny can randomly have a winning record against Maru over the last 2 years, then maybe he can make some magic too.

and they are not in Bo7, the only Terran that beat Maru in Bo7 recently was TY, right?


yes
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
SHODAN
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1144 Posts
February 12 2023 18:52 GMT
#1171
hope we get tasteosis cast
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 12 2023 18:52 GMT
#1172
On February 13 2023 03:50 THERIDDLER wrote:
https://twitter.com/Lamduyyy/status/1624841073003741184 2.3 Million viewers LETS GOOO


Whoa!!!

Are does chinese plateform numbers legit?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
February 12 2023 18:52 GMT
#1173
Lets go Oliveira one more time!
Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
February 12 2023 18:53 GMT
#1174
On February 13 2023 03:52 SHODAN wrote:
hope we get tasteosis cast

There is no alternative.
⚀⚅
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 12 2023 18:53 GMT
#1175
On February 13 2023 03:46 Waxangel wrote:
I don't think it's totally hopeless for TIME. If Bunny can randomly have a winning record against Maru over the last 2 years, then maybe he can make some magic too.


Anyone ever saw ZG and Wax in the same room?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33495 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 18:55:28
February 12 2023 18:53 GMT
#1176
On February 13 2023 03:50 THERIDDLER wrote:
https://twitter.com/Lamduyyy/status/1624841073003741184 2.3 Million viewers LETS GOOO


I thought we were over confusing Chinese streaming platforms' "viewer score/heat" numbers with actual viewers since like 10 League of Legends Worlds/DotA2 TI's ago
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 18:55:17
February 12 2023 18:54 GMT
#1177
On February 13 2023 03:52 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 03:50 THERIDDLER wrote:
https://twitter.com/Lamduyyy/status/1624841073003741184 2.3 Million viewers LETS GOOO


Whoa!!!

Are does chinese plateform numbers legit?

It's not actually number of viewers, I believe. (They literally don't call it viewer numbers but "popularity" numbers). I think it's probably more like 100~200k viewers, which is still a lot.

You can kind of tell by the speed at which chat is spammed, which is like an 100k viewer stream.
very illegal and very uncool
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
February 12 2023 18:54 GMT
#1178
On February 13 2023 03:35 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 03:33 Musicus wrote:
On February 13 2023 03:31 Cricketer12 wrote:
On February 13 2023 03:28 Musicus wrote:
So with TIME in the final, the chinese viewership must be huge now right? Could very well be the most watched Katowice Play-offs bracket ever.

twitch numbers are below 30k going into the finals...rough

Definitely a bit rough, since the chinese viewers probably don't matter to Sponsors as much? Not Sure tbh. Well they certainly don't matter to Blizzard, they don't even have servers right now in China...


I certainly don't want to be cutting Blizzard any breaks, but that one isn't on them. China is cracking down HARD on online gaming. Starcraft 2 isn't the only game being shut down.

Not that simple and close to flatout untrue. This is almost 99% pure business and little to do with policy.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
February 12 2023 18:54 GMT
#1179
On February 13 2023 03:53 Javah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 03:52 SHODAN wrote:
hope we get tasteosis cast

There is no alternative.


If Artosis doesn't cast the final, he will throw the salty tantrum of the century. RT <3
SHODAN
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1144 Posts
February 12 2023 18:54 GMT
#1180
On February 13 2023 03:53 Javah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 03:52 SHODAN wrote:
hope we get tasteosis cast

There is no alternative.


wardi?? I mean no offense, but c'mon pls give us the boyyyyyys
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