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[IEM] Katowice 2023 - RO8, RO4, Grand Finals - Page 58

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Balance whining will be moderated aggressively

-Wax
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9319 Posts
February 12 2023 18:39 GMT
#1141
Where's the Maru vs Oliveira poll
You're now breathing manually
SHODAN
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1159 Posts
February 12 2023 18:39 GMT
#1142
TIME 4 -3 MARU LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33650 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 18:40:11
February 12 2023 18:39 GMT
#1143
On February 13 2023 03:24 Sent. wrote:
Oliveira and Creator picking some country in Africa was best hahaha


I think the amusing second layer to the joke is that none of us can name which country it was off the top of our heads, just that it was "Africa"
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 18:40:16
February 12 2023 18:39 GMT
#1144
On February 13 2023 03:28 Musicus wrote:
So with TIME in the final, the chinese viewership must be huge now right? Could very well be the most watched Katowice Play-offs bracket ever.

It's close to 3am on a Monday and the event is not broadcasted on SCBoy's channel. Most of us will be checking the results in the morning.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3135 Posts
February 12 2023 18:40 GMT
#1145
really some of the most exciting finals matchups we could have gotten. on one side the ultimate stone-cold killer who's looked solid all tournament in Maru, playing in the matchup he's been most dominant in. On the other the most insane cinderella-story run in IEM history, also playing what seems to be one of his top matchups.

there were more "dream battles" that could have happened (Maru vs Hero, Maru vs Reynor), but those seem to disappoint as often as not. we'll see how this one goes I guess.
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
February 12 2023 18:41 GMT
#1146
On February 13 2023 03:38 swarminfestor wrote:
How many times Time/Olivera has beaten Maru before?


Twice, he beat him at Blizzcon 2019 actually
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16124 Posts
February 12 2023 18:41 GMT
#1147
On February 13 2023 03:40 Captain Peabody wrote:
really some of the most exciting finals matchups we could have gotten. on one side the ultimate stone-cold killer who's looked solid all tournament in Maru, playing in the matchup he's been most dominant in. On the other the most insane cinderella-story run in IEM history, also playing what seems to be one of his top matchups.

there were more "dream battles" that could have happened (Maru vs Hero, Maru vs Reynor), but those seem to disappoint as often as not. we'll see how this one goes I guess.


Yo I'm inconsolably happy. I told you I would be.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3135 Posts
February 12 2023 18:41 GMT
#1148
that aligulac prediction can't be right, but I guess maybe it's thrown off by TIME not having played a lot of Bo7s?
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1947 Posts
February 12 2023 18:42 GMT
#1149
Considering the overall quality of TvT's we had throughout this tournament I really have very high hopes for the finals.
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
1004 Posts
February 12 2023 18:42 GMT
#1150
I'm not excited for a mirror finals but I couldn't be happier for TIME, really amazing for him, would love to see him upset Maru and win it all.

I think the viewership numbers are decent, probably like 38K + with YT but they would definitely be higher if it was Hero and Maru.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
February 12 2023 18:42 GMT
#1151
On February 13 2023 03:41 Captain Peabody wrote:
that aligulac prediction can't be right, but I guess maybe it's thrown off by TIME not having played a lot of Bo7s?

He is 2-11 in series against Maru and his last series win against Maru was 2.5 years ago.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3135 Posts
February 12 2023 18:42 GMT
#1152
On February 13 2023 03:41 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 03:40 Captain Peabody wrote:
really some of the most exciting finals matchups we could have gotten. on one side the ultimate stone-cold killer who's looked solid all tournament in Maru, playing in the matchup he's been most dominant in. On the other the most insane cinderella-story run in IEM history, also playing what seems to be one of his top matchups.

there were more "dream battles" that could have happened (Maru vs Hero, Maru vs Reynor), but those seem to disappoint as often as not. we'll see how this one goes I guess.


Yo I'm inconsolably happy. I told you I would be.

yes! been thinking about that exchange all day today. who would have thought?
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16124 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 18:45:04
February 12 2023 18:42 GMT
#1153
On February 13 2023 03:41 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 03:38 swarminfestor wrote:
How many times Time/Olivera has beaten Maru before?


Twice, he beat him at Blizzcon 2019 actually


In a GSL style group 3-2. Maru then came right back and beat him 3-0 to knock him out and advance out of the group.

Here's their entire head to head history if anyone wants to see it: Maru vs Oliveira
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12475 Posts
February 12 2023 18:43 GMT
#1154
On February 13 2023 03:30 Xamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 03:18 Acrofales wrote:
On February 13 2023 03:12 Xamo wrote:
On February 13 2023 03:10 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 13 2023 03:05 Gescom wrote:
Do we need to talk about the Terran cabal right now?

TvP on this patch is terran favored, I've been saying this since it was released

Which change has had any influence in this semifinal?

Oliveira just crushed through battery overcharge. It was very clear in game 1. In game 4 the battery overcharge did keep the disruptor alive. But especially the game 1 move I don't think would have worked if overcharge hadn't been nerfed. Not that I think the old overcharge made the game interesting or fun.

I think herO would have lost anyway. The zealot warp-in on the other side of the map was a bad move, and Oliveira capitalized on that.


It's extremely unlikely. You can tell from how herO played there that he was fully expecting to hold this position, it's not like he was caught offguard by the attack. He was caught offguard by the attack being successful. If this attack isn't successful, the colossus is out for the next one, and Time lost 16 workers or something.
No will to live, no wish to die
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
February 12 2023 18:43 GMT
#1155
On February 13 2023 03:39 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 03:28 Musicus wrote:
So with TIME in the final, the chinese viewership must be huge now right? Could very well be the most watched Katowice Play-offs bracket ever.

It's close to 3am on a Monday and the event is not broadcasted on SCBoy's channel. Most of us will be checking the results in the morning.

Aw, too bad. Do you know what's the biggest Stream for this, If there is one?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
February 12 2023 18:43 GMT
#1156
On February 13 2023 03:39 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 03:28 Musicus wrote:
So with TIME in the final, the chinese viewership must be huge now right? Could very well be the most watched Katowice Play-offs bracket ever.

It's close to 3am on a Monday and the event is not broadcasted on SCBoy's channel. Most of us will be checking the results in the morning.


Did you hear what time said to his fans in Chinese?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33650 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 18:45:30
February 12 2023 18:43 GMT
#1157
On February 13 2023 03:41 Captain Peabody wrote:
that aligulac prediction can't be right, but I guess maybe it's thrown off by TIME not having played a lot of Bo7s?


The longer the series the more skewed it gets for the favorite

it's a much more reasonable 85% if it's a BO3
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
February 12 2023 18:44 GMT
#1158
I'm in tears for Oliveira, but Maru GOAT is the priority here.
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
538 Posts
February 12 2023 18:44 GMT
#1159
On February 13 2023 03:42 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 03:41 Captain Peabody wrote:
that aligulac prediction can't be right, but I guess maybe it's thrown off by TIME not having played a lot of Bo7s?

He is 2-11 in series against Maru and his last series win against Maru was 2.5 years ago.

Solar, Ragna and Time are something like 2-100 in series against Maru?😛 TIME has momentum, so he has a shot.
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
February 12 2023 18:45 GMT
#1160
On February 13 2023 03:42 Beelzebub1 wrote:
I'm not excited for a mirror finals but I couldn't be happier for TIME, really amazing for him, would love to see him upset Maru and win it all.

I think the viewership numbers are decent, probably like 38K + with YT but they would definitely be higher if it was Hero and Maru.


8k on YouTube right now. SC2 is still alive and kicking.
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