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[IEM] Katowice 2023 - RO8, RO4, Grand Finals - Page 36

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Balance whining will be moderated aggressively

-Wax
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
February 12 2023 16:13 GMT
#701
Maru 3-0 herO 3-0
maru - herO 4-0

u heard it here first
~~~~~
Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
1005 Posts
February 12 2023 16:14 GMT
#702
On February 13 2023 01:10 HeroSandro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 01:07 [Phantom] wrote:
3 things are clear for me.

1.- Dark played bad, not to his usual standard.

2.-Hero is head and shoulders above any other Protoss player, it's not close.

3.- Hero is head and shoulders above Serral, Reynor, Dark, in terms of skill.


That number 3 is somewhat baffling, but ok πŸ˜„


Sandro is my favorite hero in HoMM3 as well lol love your tag I actually just played through the whole campaign again on Expert and forgot how challenging the AI is in that game at times xD
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1269 Posts
February 12 2023 16:14 GMT
#703
On February 13 2023 01:12 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 01:10 Husyelt wrote:
Only able to listen to the games, what did Serral do differently compared to Dark vs herO? Or was it just a mental/day issue?

Anyways hell of a dark few hours for the Zerg titans. Serral, Reynor and Dark ousted.

Serral doesnt rely on SH, he normally pretty perfect in protecting drone against Oracle as well. So he always has enough unit to defend. Fighting into Serral is a dead sentence unless you trick him.

This, also Serral rushed out vipers in both games against herO and controlled them perfectly.
Mutation complete.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
February 12 2023 16:14 GMT
#704
On February 13 2023 01:07 [Phantom] wrote:
3 things are clear for me.

1.- Dark played bad, not to his usual standard.

2.-Hero is head and shoulders above any other Protoss player, it's not close.

3.- Hero is head and shoulders above Serral, Reynor, Dark, in terms of skill.


Hero just lost 0-2 vs Serral though. It all depends on the matchup and their form on that day as well.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
February 12 2023 16:15 GMT
#705
On February 13 2023 01:10 HeroSandro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 01:07 [Phantom] wrote:
3 things are clear for me.

1.- Dark played bad, not to his usual standard.

2.-Hero is head and shoulders above any other Protoss player, it's not close.

3.- Hero is head and shoulders above Serral, Reynor, Dark, in terms of skill.


That number 3 is somewhat baffling, but ok πŸ˜„



I'm just talking about the general performance in this tournament, not all time. herO has shown much more solid, consistent play. He only lsot vs Serral but I better not say the reason I think he lost there.

He has been more more consisten than all the other top players, except Maru.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Glorfindelio
Profile Joined October 2022
231 Posts
February 12 2023 16:16 GMT
#706
On February 13 2023 01:07 [Phantom] wrote:
3 things are clear for me.

1.- Dark played bad, not to his usual standard.

2.-Hero is head and shoulders above any other Protoss player, it's not close.

3.- Hero is head and shoulders above Serral, Reynor, Dark, in terms of skill.



Ah, yes, your usual troll-ish take on 3. Though, Zergs did seem like they bought into everyone's hype and approached things with a general laziness--Dark well below his normal level, Reynor thinking he could style on Time, Serral wish bafflingly bad ZvZ.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3516 Posts
February 12 2023 16:16 GMT
#707
Maru looking at the bracket and be like.....thanks guys.
NotSoHappy
Profile Joined November 2010
445 Posts
February 12 2023 16:17 GMT
#708
don't be funny, hero is on fire
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 16:17:47
February 12 2023 16:17 GMT
#709
herO is so sick
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
February 12 2023 16:18 GMT
#710
On February 13 2023 01:16 tigera6 wrote:
Maru looking at the bracket and be like.....thanks guys.


For real. The biggest dangers to Maru all got knocked out by someone else. This is the best bracket he has EVER had at an IEM Katowice.

Don't want to curse him since herO is obviously still lurking, but this just might finally be it.

It would be just like Maru to FINALLY win his first Global Championship right after a balance patch that specifically nerfs a core playstyle he was using the year before.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
540 Posts
February 12 2023 16:19 GMT
#711
On February 13 2023 01:14 Beelzebub1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 01:10 HeroSandro wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:07 [Phantom] wrote:
3 things are clear for me.

1.- Dark played bad, not to his usual standard.

2.-Hero is head and shoulders above any other Protoss player, it's not close.

3.- Hero is head and shoulders above Serral, Reynor, Dark, in terms of skill.


That number 3 is somewhat baffling, but ok πŸ˜„


Sandro is my favorite hero in HoMM3 as well lol love your tag I actually just played through the whole campaign again on Expert and forgot how challenging the AI is in that game at times xD

πŸ˜‡
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
February 12 2023 16:19 GMT
#712
On February 13 2023 01:13 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
Maru 3-0 herO 3-0
maru - herO 4-0

u heard it here first


After seeing Ragnarok and TIME knock out Reynor and Serral, I think both of them deserve to be at least favored to win a map.

Maru vs herO should be a good match too. These guys play each other close.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2466 Posts
February 12 2023 16:20 GMT
#713
Poll: Who's going to win?

Maru (12)
 
86%

Ragnarok (2)
 
14%

14 total votes

You must be logged in to vote in this poll.

☐ Maru
☐ Ragnarok



Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3516 Posts
February 12 2023 16:20 GMT
#714
I mean, of course herO will be tough, but I just think Oliveira will give him fits in the Ro4, so much that herO cant hide strat or build in PvT, and Maru will know how to play him if they meet in the Final.
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
February 12 2023 16:20 GMT
#715
Is there a URL with all player cards data ? Would be fun to correlate them with match outcomes after the tournament.
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
February 12 2023 16:21 GMT
#716
On February 13 2023 01:20 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Is there a URL with all player cards data ? Would be fun to correlate them with match outcomes after the tournament.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vR2GV_O2M2Ujx7YEfrabQ57WIkopd8Ldk-Jo9a1rLX2Va82-PZTUz18EYJZIBypQA/pubhtml

Courtesy of Wax, courtesy of reddit.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18445 Posts
February 12 2023 16:22 GMT
#717
On February 13 2023 01:15 [Phantom] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 01:10 HeroSandro wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:07 [Phantom] wrote:
3 things are clear for me.

1.- Dark played bad, not to his usual standard.

2.-Hero is head and shoulders above any other Protoss player, it's not close.

3.- Hero is head and shoulders above Serral, Reynor, Dark, in terms of skill.


That number 3 is somewhat baffling, but ok πŸ˜„



I'm just talking about the general performance in this tournament, not all time. herO has shown much more solid, consistent play. He only lsot vs Serral but I better not say the reason I think he lost there.

He has been more more consisten than all the other top players, except Maru.


I disagree. You could say that Serral was the most dominant player this tournament in 2 out of 3 matchups. Of course, the ZvZ almost knocked him out of the groups and ended up getting him killed in the Ro8. But he absolutely dominated Byun, and looked very comfortable vs herO. herO has definitely put up a better performance, but you put him in a Bo7 vs Serral right now and I bet on Serral.

We didn't even really see Reynor's ZvP. He crushed his group and then lost in a close ZvT. I don't think you can say much about his skill level based on that.
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
February 12 2023 16:22 GMT
#718
Thanks Vindicare, Wax and (God forbid) Reddit !
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
Solio
Profile Joined June 2016
France145 Posts
February 12 2023 16:23 GMT
#719
Maru, the messi of sc2, will finally become a world champion today
Glorfindelio
Profile Joined October 2022
231 Posts
February 12 2023 16:25 GMT
#720
On February 13 2023 01:23 Solio wrote:
Maru, the messi of sc2, will finally become a world champion today


Hero is looking like a beast, but at least we'll have the final the people deserve!
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