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Balance whining will be moderated aggressively

-Wax
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 16:08:39
February 12 2023 16:07 GMT
#681
3 things are clear for me.

1.- Dark played bad, not to his usual standard.

2.-Hero is head and shoulders above any other Protoss player, it's not close.

3.- Hero is head and shoulders above Serral, Reynor, Dark, in terms of skill.

WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
February 12 2023 16:08 GMT
#682
On February 13 2023 01:06 Poopi wrote:
Dark not looking sharp at all, but congratulations herO!!
I really feel like Maru can win the whole thing


Blame on the military service notices he repeatedly received during the past few months.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
syndbg
Profile Joined February 2018
43 Posts
February 12 2023 16:08 GMT
#683
Can't say anyone could've predicted the bracket.
It's really an interesting turn of events.

yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 16:08:42
February 12 2023 16:08 GMT
#684
Also the most even quarterfinal matchup on paper turned out to be the most onesided...
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16017 Posts
February 12 2023 16:08 GMT
#685
Yeah Dark just wasn't looking sharp this tournament
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
mintyminmus
Profile Joined September 2022
Australia127 Posts
February 12 2023 16:08 GMT
#686
herO's stalker seems stronger than a typical stalker
xyfan
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3517 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 16:09:22
February 12 2023 16:09 GMT
#687
On February 13 2023 01:07 [Phantom] wrote:
3 things are clear for me.

1.- Dark played bad.

2.-Hero is head and shoulders above any other Protoss player, it's not close.

3.- Hero is head and shoulders above Serral, Reynor, Dark, in terms of skill.


I agree on 1 and 2 but not three, just because dark wasn't really on this tournament doesnt make you able to generalize like that.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
February 12 2023 16:09 GMT
#688
On February 13 2023 01:06 Nakajin wrote:
This tournament confirm that the problem really was Rogue all along


He was truly a god of tournament play.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 12 2023 16:09 GMT
#689
On February 13 2023 01:07 [Phantom] wrote:
3 things are clear for me.

1.- Dark played bad, not to his usual standard.

2.-Hero is head and shoulders above any other Protoss player, it's not close.

3.- Hero is head and shoulders above Serral, Reynor, Dark, in terms of skill.



Dark played bad against Creator and Neeb as well. If Protoss weren't... what it is right now... I don't feel he would ever have gotten this far into the tournament.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
532 Posts
February 12 2023 16:10 GMT
#690
On February 13 2023 01:07 [Phantom] wrote:
3 things are clear for me.

1.- Dark played bad, not to his usual standard.

2.-Hero is head and shoulders above any other Protoss player, it's not close.

3.- Hero is head and shoulders above Serral, Reynor, Dark, in terms of skill.


That number 3 is somewhat baffling, but ok 😄
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3443 Posts
February 12 2023 16:10 GMT
#691
Dark was grinding those online cup a lot before this tournament, I think its kinda draining him. We just have cases where players look amazing before IEM but then just flame out into the tournament. Trap from 2 years ago, Zest from last year and now its Dark.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
February 12 2023 16:10 GMT
#692
On February 13 2023 01:08 Charoisaur wrote:
Yeah Dark just wasn't looking sharp this tournament

His first two games weren't great here but low-key Dark wins that third game 999/1000 times against anyone not named herO
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
February 12 2023 16:10 GMT
#693
Yea, now that he's out, it's pretty obvious that Dark wasn't in his usual shape in this tournament. He only really looked terrific against Terran. He lost 2-0 to Neeb, got taken to the limit by Creator and got dominated by herO. Whatever he was practicing vs Protoss clearly wasn't effective in this tournament.

That said. Being the boss that he is, even when he's having a bad tournament he's still good enough to make the Ro8. Goes to show what a loss it's going to be to SC2 when he leaves to do his military service.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
February 12 2023 16:10 GMT
#694
(T)Maru vs (P)herO

or

(Z)RagnaroK vs (T)TIME

hype!

"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States837 Posts
February 12 2023 16:10 GMT
#695
Only able to listen to the games, what did Serral do differently compared to Dark vs herO? Or was it just a mental/day issue?

Anyways hell of a dark few hours for the Zerg titans. Serral, Reynor and Dark ousted.
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
February 12 2023 16:11 GMT
#696
On February 13 2023 01:05 Moonerz wrote:
I'm sure everyone had RagnaroK being the last zerg in the tournament

GSL enjoyers stay winning
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3517 Posts
February 12 2023 16:11 GMT
#697
On February 13 2023 01:10 Husyelt wrote:
Only able to listen to the games, what did Serral do differently compared to Dark vs herO? Or was it just a mental/day issue?

Anyways hell of a dark few hours for the Zerg titans. Serral, Reynor and Dark ousted.

Serral played different styles (no ling bane only/swarmhost shenanigans), and yeah just was more clean.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
February 12 2023 16:11 GMT
#698
On February 13 2023 01:10 Husyelt wrote:
Only able to listen to the games, what did Serral do differently compared to Dark vs herO? Or was it just a mental/day issue?

Anyways hell of a dark few hours for the Zerg titans. Serral, Reynor and Dark ousted.

Serral lost a lot less to oracle harass and had better reactions in general.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3443 Posts
February 12 2023 16:12 GMT
#699
On February 13 2023 01:10 Husyelt wrote:
Only able to listen to the games, what did Serral do differently compared to Dark vs herO? Or was it just a mental/day issue?

Anyways hell of a dark few hours for the Zerg titans. Serral, Reynor and Dark ousted.

Serral doesnt rely on SH, he normally pretty perfect in protecting drone against Oracle as well. So he always has enough unit to defend. Fighting into Serral is a dead sentence unless you trick him.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18136 Posts
February 12 2023 16:13 GMT
#700
On February 13 2023 01:10 Husyelt wrote:
Only able to listen to the games, what did Serral do differently compared to Dark vs herO? Or was it just a mental/day issue?

Anyways hell of a dark few hours for the Zerg titans. Serral, Reynor and Dark ousted.

Well, for starters, he took zero damage to the Oracles. Also, herO 's builds were a bit different and he tried a glaive attack that just got crushed.
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