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Balance whining will be moderated aggressively

-Wax
allmotor1
Profile Joined December 2017
153 Posts
February 12 2023 15:18 GMT
#561
On February 13 2023 00:09 TossHeroes wrote:
Lol where are the same terran crybabies complaining about Zerg Imba?

Hope you kids put in the same type of energy admitting terran is overpowered atm

Or is the same excuse going to be use?

When T wins, they outplay their opponents
But when T loses, cause other race ez A move



dude i play random, Z is the easiest race to play by far.

Z is OP

User was warned for this post
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
February 12 2023 15:18 GMT
#562
If Dark loses then Ragnarok will be the furthest advancing zerg. Did not see that coming.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
February 12 2023 15:18 GMT
#563
On February 13 2023 00:17 Luolis wrote:
This is perfect for herO. Now he can use all hidden gigastrategies vs Dark and doesnt have to worry about playing PvZ after the series.

I neeeeed to see some classic DT blink level shenanigans here :D
~~~~~
allmotor1
Profile Joined December 2017
153 Posts
February 12 2023 15:18 GMT
#564
On February 13 2023 00:14 Glorfindelio wrote:
Super happy for Time, what a run.



same
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
February 12 2023 15:19 GMT
#565
On February 13 2023 00:18 allmotor1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 00:09 TossHeroes wrote:
Lol where are the same terran crybabies complaining about Zerg Imba?

Hope you kids put in the same type of energy admitting terran is overpowered atm

Or is the same excuse going to be use?

When T wins, they outplay their opponents
But when T loses, cause other race ez A move



dude i play random, Z is the easiest race to play by far.

Z is OP


It has the worst mirror though by far.

That's why I stopped playing Random. I used to love playing ZvT and ZvP, but ZvZ is just toxic especially as a Random player.

PvP isn't that much better, but at least losing to build order bullshit isn't as bad as the kind of crazy shit that happens in a typical ZvZ game.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1201 Posts
February 12 2023 15:20 GMT
#566
If Maru beats RagnaroK which is at least likely (maybe today the rules are a bit different LOL) ... he will face either

TIME (TvT specialist)
herO (PvT specialist)
Dark (ZvT specialist)

Can only be a good series honestly but obviously Maru is godlike in any matchup too. Some unexpected series results today. Crazy. Also what a performance from TIME. Mental juggernaut and also mechanically great maps 4+5
Commentator
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 15:21:01
February 12 2023 15:20 GMT
#567
If Dark beat herO, not only will this be the first world championship without a european in the final 4 since 2017, it will be the first final 4 without a Kespa players since the switch.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33701 Posts
February 12 2023 15:20 GMT
#568
mfw balance whining starts when I go to check chinese stream
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
mintyminmus
Profile Joined September 2022
Australia127 Posts
February 12 2023 15:21 GMT
#569
Its not that often to see reynor tilt that much.
I found it amusing
xyfan
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
February 12 2023 15:21 GMT
#570
On February 13 2023 00:20 TaKeTV wrote:
If Maru beats RagnaroK which is at least likely (maybe today the rules are a bit different LOL) ... he will face either

TIME (TvT specialist)
herO (PvT specialist)
Dark (ZvT specialist)

Can only be a good series honestly but obviously Maru is godlike in any matchup too. Some unexpected series results today. Crazy. Also what a performance from TIME. Mental juggernaut and also mechanically great maps 4+5


Can't really call TIME a TvT specialist when Maru has arguably the strongest TvT that anyone in SC2's history has ever had.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
February 12 2023 15:21 GMT
#571
Break screen has the head to head record wrong, herO is miles ahead and not the other way around.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
peak5g
Profile Joined February 2023
5 Posts
February 12 2023 15:22 GMT
#572
Where's all the waaaaahhh waaaaahhh zerg imba dbags at?

User was warned for this post
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
February 12 2023 15:22 GMT
#573
On February 13 2023 00:20 TaKeTV wrote:
If Maru beats RagnaroK which is at least likely (maybe today the rules are a bit different LOL) ... he will face either

TIME (TvT specialist)
herO (PvT specialist)
Dark (ZvT specialist)

Can only be a good series honestly but obviously Maru is godlike in any matchup too. Some unexpected series results today. Crazy. Also what a performance from TIME. Mental juggernaut and also mechanically great maps 4+5

herO constantly calls PvT his worst matchup, he's not really a specialist, he's just overall by far the best player of his race.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1201 Posts
February 12 2023 15:22 GMT
#574
On February 13 2023 00:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 00:20 TaKeTV wrote:
If Maru beats RagnaroK which is at least likely (maybe today the rules are a bit different LOL) ... he will face either

TIME (TvT specialist)
herO (PvT specialist)
Dark (ZvT specialist)

Can only be a good series honestly but obviously Maru is godlike in any matchup too. Some unexpected series results today. Crazy. Also what a performance from TIME. Mental juggernaut and also mechanically great maps 4+5


Can't really call TIME a TvT specialist when Maru has arguably the strongest TvT that anyone in SC2's history has ever had.


I mean Maru is the best TvT of all time and TIME can still be a TvT specialist no? :D
Commentator
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
713 Posts
February 12 2023 15:23 GMT
#575
On February 13 2023 00:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 00:20 TaKeTV wrote:
If Maru beats RagnaroK which is at least likely (maybe today the rules are a bit different LOL) ... he will face either

TIME (TvT specialist)
herO (PvT specialist)
Dark (ZvT specialist)

Can only be a good series honestly but obviously Maru is godlike in any matchup too. Some unexpected series results today. Crazy. Also what a performance from TIME. Mental juggernaut and also mechanically great maps 4+5


Can't really call TIME a TvT specialist when Maru has arguably the strongest TvT that anyone in SC2's history has ever had.

don't see how these statements necessarily contradict each other
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1201 Posts
February 12 2023 15:23 GMT
#576
On February 13 2023 00:22 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 00:20 TaKeTV wrote:
If Maru beats RagnaroK which is at least likely (maybe today the rules are a bit different LOL) ... he will face either

TIME (TvT specialist)
herO (PvT specialist)
Dark (ZvT specialist)

Can only be a good series honestly but obviously Maru is godlike in any matchup too. Some unexpected series results today. Crazy. Also what a performance from TIME. Mental juggernaut and also mechanically great maps 4+5

herO constantly calls PvT his worst matchup, he's not really a specialist, he's just overall by far the best player of his race.


I disagree honestly. I think at least in parts of PvT herO is by far the best. i.e harassment focused stalker style. Maybe not strategically / lategame focus but any early game to midgame aggression. Obviously you have a point that he is the best player as Protoss rn
Commentator
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3516 Posts
February 12 2023 15:23 GMT
#577
her0 kinda looks like Korean Obama. Just saying.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
February 12 2023 15:23 GMT
#578
On February 13 2023 00:22 TaKeTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 00:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 13 2023 00:20 TaKeTV wrote:
If Maru beats RagnaroK which is at least likely (maybe today the rules are a bit different LOL) ... he will face either

TIME (TvT specialist)
herO (PvT specialist)
Dark (ZvT specialist)

Can only be a good series honestly but obviously Maru is godlike in any matchup too. Some unexpected series results today. Crazy. Also what a performance from TIME. Mental juggernaut and also mechanically great maps 4+5


Can't really call TIME a TvT specialist when Maru has arguably the strongest TvT that anyone in SC2's history has ever had.


I mean Maru is the best TvT of all time and TIME can still be a TvT specialist no? :D

what does this mean for big gabes TvT, omnipotent creator of the universe TvT?
~~~~~
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2466 Posts
February 12 2023 15:24 GMT
#579
On February 13 2023 00:20 Waxangel wrote:
mfw balance whining starts when I go to check chinese stream


I thought they were hyping for advancement of the only Chinese representative?
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
February 12 2023 15:24 GMT
#580
On February 13 2023 00:23 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 00:22 TaKeTV wrote:
On February 13 2023 00:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 13 2023 00:20 TaKeTV wrote:
If Maru beats RagnaroK which is at least likely (maybe today the rules are a bit different LOL) ... he will face either

TIME (TvT specialist)
herO (PvT specialist)
Dark (ZvT specialist)

Can only be a good series honestly but obviously Maru is godlike in any matchup too. Some unexpected series results today. Crazy. Also what a performance from TIME. Mental juggernaut and also mechanically great maps 4+5


Can't really call TIME a TvT specialist when Maru has arguably the strongest TvT that anyone in SC2's history has ever had.


I mean Maru is the best TvT of all time and TIME can still be a TvT specialist no? :D

what does this mean for big gabes TvT, omnipotent creator of the universe TvT?


Let's ask Nestea in whose brain the entire universe dwells.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
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