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[WTL 2021] WTL vs The World - Page 2

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Howard_Kao
Profile Joined September 2018
China261 Posts
January 05 2022 03:33 GMT
#21
On January 05 2022 07:52 rextor92 wrote:
In almost 12 years of SC2 esports history, it's a precedent to lock the very best of the best SC2 players behind one language stream. It is fracturing the community behind a language-wall, and I, for one, will not watch, support, or cover it on LP in any way unless this decision is revised.

Seems like wardi gets the permission, all good
"You don't need a gsl champion, you don't need a esl champion. I feel like I'm just a normal man. I just practice very hard this time, like 15hrs everyday" Oliveira 2023
hjpalpha
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany339 Posts
January 05 2022 05:59 GMT
#22
(Wiki)World Team League/2021/Winter/WTL vs The World
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
January 05 2022 09:31 GMT
#23
Wow pretty sick match ! It should get to Maru vs Serral, I'm genuinely hyped
Wardi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
England897 Posts
January 05 2022 10:27 GMT
#24
Not sure I will cast still, our permission to stream is only to restream somebodies restream of the chinese stream. So no game sounds, no idea how quality will be :/
CommentatorOwner of WardiTV. Streamer, caster & event organizer. / / www.wardi.tv
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
January 05 2022 11:11 GMT
#25
On January 05 2022 19:27 Wardi wrote:
Not sure I will cast still, our permission to stream is only to restream somebodies restream of the chinese stream. So no game sounds, no idea how quality will be :/


Wtf
Big sad
Could as well draw the maps on a Whiteboard then and Paint the game on there and it would probably be better quality the a Re-Re-Restream
MaxPax
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
January 05 2022 12:37 GMT
#26
On January 05 2022 19:27 Wardi wrote:
Not sure I will cast still, our permission to stream is only to restream somebodies restream of the chinese stream. So no game sounds, no idea how quality will be :/


That is so strange. Did they ever explain why?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
January 05 2022 16:09 GMT
#27
On January 05 2022 21:37 buzz_bender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2022 19:27 Wardi wrote:
Not sure I will cast still, our permission to stream is only to restream somebodies restream of the chinese stream. So no game sounds, no idea how quality will be :/


That is so strange. Did they ever explain why?


I'm guessing they want full control over the broadcast. At the end of the day it's their event and their (quite considerable) money, it's reasonable that they want to be sure everyone know it's theirs.

If I'm honest, I kind of prefer that, obviously having to follow the chinese obs isn't the greatest, but I much preffer having all the WTL overlay, the desk, the transition, the music, the Hexagons and the weird shrimp add that come with watching a rebroadcast. It add some personal flavor to the event. (No offense to Wardi, but we do see your room pretty much every other tournament)

I have to say it's been a while since I've watch non-english SC2, but I seem to remember that either ESL or WCS did it that way too? (I could be wrong though)
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WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
575 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-05 16:18:08
January 05 2022 16:17 GMT
#28
On January 06 2022 01:09 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2022 21:37 buzz_bender wrote:
On January 05 2022 19:27 Wardi wrote:
Not sure I will cast still, our permission to stream is only to restream somebodies restream of the chinese stream. So no game sounds, no idea how quality will be :/


That is so strange. Did they ever explain why?


I'm guessing they want full control over the broadcast. At the end of the day it's their event and their (quite considerable) money, it's reasonable that they want to be sure everyone know it's theirs.

If I'm honest, I kind of prefer that, obviously having to follow the chinese obs isn't the greatest, but I much preffer having all the WTL overlay, the desk, the transition, the music, the Hexagons and the weird shrimp add that come with watching a rebroadcast. It add some personal flavor to the event. (No offense to Wardi, but we do see your room pretty much every other tournament)

I have to say it's been a while since I've watch non-english SC2, but I seem to remember that either ESL or WCS did it that way too? (I could be wrong though)


You realize you get all of that (the overlay, desk, transitions, music etc) with a clean feed which we can cast off of? Now we won't have game sound / music etc because we have to cast from the chinese stream where they are commentating in Chinese. We cast off a clean feed for WTL and it's no issue, I prefer it because of all the graphics, but it sucks that originally we had to restream a restream. At least now we are getting a direct feed from the chinese stream, so we can have higher quality but still no sounds.
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lepricon1992
Profile Joined July 2019
96 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-05 17:54:08
January 05 2022 16:58 GMT
#29
On January 06 2022 01:17 WardiTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2022 01:09 Nakajin wrote:
On January 05 2022 21:37 buzz_bender wrote:
On January 05 2022 19:27 Wardi wrote:
Not sure I will cast still, our permission to stream is only to restream somebodies restream of the chinese stream. So no game sounds, no idea how quality will be :/


That is so strange. Did they ever explain why?


I'm guessing they want full control over the broadcast. At the end of the day it's their event and their (quite considerable) money, it's reasonable that they want to be sure everyone know it's theirs.

If I'm honest, I kind of prefer that, obviously having to follow the chinese obs isn't the greatest, but I much preffer having all the WTL overlay, the desk, the transition, the music, the Hexagons and the weird shrimp add that come with watching a rebroadcast. It add some personal flavor to the event. (No offense to Wardi, but we do see your room pretty much every other tournament)

I have to say it's been a while since I've watch non-english SC2, but I seem to remember that either ESL or WCS did it that way too? (I could be wrong though)


You realize you get all of that (the overlay, desk, transitions, music etc) with a clean feed which we can cast off of? Now we won't have game sound / music etc because we have to cast from the chinese stream where they are commentating in Chinese. We cast off a clean feed for WTL and it's no issue, I prefer it because of all the graphics, but it sucks that originally we had to restream a restream. At least now we are getting a direct feed from the chinese stream, so we can have higher quality but still no sounds.


IT'S a NetEase owned invitational, not WTL official match, SCboy have no right to issue permission unless NetEase allows them to.
WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
575 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-05 17:02:33
January 05 2022 17:02 GMT
#30
On January 06 2022 01:58 lepricon1992 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2022 01:17 WardiTV wrote:
On January 06 2022 01:09 Nakajin wrote:
On January 05 2022 21:37 buzz_bender wrote:
On January 05 2022 19:27 Wardi wrote:
Not sure I will cast still, our permission to stream is only to restream somebodies restream of the chinese stream. So no game sounds, no idea how quality will be :/


That is so strange. Did they ever explain why?


I'm guessing they want full control over the broadcast. At the end of the day it's their event and their (quite considerable) money, it's reasonable that they want to be sure everyone know it's theirs.

If I'm honest, I kind of prefer that, obviously having to follow the chinese obs isn't the greatest, but I much preffer having all the WTL overlay, the desk, the transition, the music, the Hexagons and the weird shrimp add that come with watching a rebroadcast. It add some personal flavor to the event. (No offense to Wardi, but we do see your room pretty much every other tournament)

I have to say it's been a while since I've watch non-english SC2, but I seem to remember that either ESL or WCS did it that way too? (I could be wrong though)


You realize you get all of that (the overlay, desk, transitions, music etc) with a clean feed which we can cast off of? Now we won't have game sound / music etc because we have to cast from the chinese stream where they are commentating in Chinese. We cast off a clean feed for WTL and it's no issue, I prefer it because of all the graphics, but it sucks that originally we had to restream a restream. At least now we are getting a direct feed from the chinese stream, so we can have higher quality but still no sounds.


IT'S a NetEase owned invitational, not WTL official match, SCboy have no right to authorize permission unless NetEase allows them to.


I know why, not complaining, they have every right to do so, just explaining the situation
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
January 05 2022 17:32 GMT
#31
On January 06 2022 01:17 WardiTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2022 01:09 Nakajin wrote:
On January 05 2022 21:37 buzz_bender wrote:
On January 05 2022 19:27 Wardi wrote:
Not sure I will cast still, our permission to stream is only to restream somebodies restream of the chinese stream. So no game sounds, no idea how quality will be :/


That is so strange. Did they ever explain why?


I'm guessing they want full control over the broadcast. At the end of the day it's their event and their (quite considerable) money, it's reasonable that they want to be sure everyone know it's theirs.

If I'm honest, I kind of prefer that, obviously having to follow the chinese obs isn't the greatest, but I much preffer having all the WTL overlay, the desk, the transition, the music, the Hexagons and the weird shrimp add that come with watching a rebroadcast. It add some personal flavor to the event. (No offense to Wardi, but we do see your room pretty much every other tournament)

I have to say it's been a while since I've watch non-english SC2, but I seem to remember that either ESL or WCS did it that way too? (I could be wrong though)


You realize you get all of that (the overlay, desk, transitions, music etc) with a clean feed which we can cast off of? Now we won't have game sound / music etc because we have to cast from the chinese stream where they are commentating in Chinese. We cast off a clean feed for WTL and it's no issue, I prefer it because of all the graphics, but it sucks that originally we had to restream a restream. At least now we are getting a direct feed from the chinese stream, so we can have higher quality but still no sounds.


Ah ok sorry, didn't understand that it right.
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vyzion
Profile Joined August 2016
308 Posts
January 05 2022 18:09 GMT
#32
On January 05 2022 02:24 pzlama333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2022 02:05 swarminfestor wrote:
I guess by having Clem representing WTL team produces much more hype, but then he may deemed as 'traitor' to World team by doing so. TIME as one of representative does not seem a bad at all.

Does Serral wish to participate in the next WTL?


That requires Ence to hire two more players to make a 3-people roster first.
Anyway, Reynor's Qlash has confirmed that they plan to participate and look for more players.


Whoa!! Looking forward to that
WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
January 05 2022 20:37 GMT
#33
So cool. Can't wait
90% watching it 8% talking about it and 2% playing it - sc2
spenzzer
Profile Joined March 2018
19 Posts
January 06 2022 07:06 GMT
#34
Idk how its possible but the grey hair in this picture make Gabe look even greater and wise. He should be called the great gray gabe from now on
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
January 08 2022 14:22 GMT
#35
Keep waiting 17 hours from now.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
January 09 2022 08:27 GMT
#36
What is Trap even doing here?
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
January 09 2022 08:29 GMT
#37
On January 09 2022 17:27 digmouse wrote:
What is Trap even doing here?

Trap just hasn't been good lately, would've rather seen Zest
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
January 09 2022 08:39 GMT
#38
I feel like that was sloppy leaving those immortals in view
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
January 09 2022 09:52 GMT
#39
It has to come down to a single BO3 for Maru and Serral isnt it.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
January 09 2022 09:57 GMT
#40
these are some big hexagons
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