• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:25
CET 23:25
KST 07:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump0Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4) BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win
Tourneys
StarCraft2.fi 15th Anniversary Cup Tenacious Turtle Tussle Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Foreign Brood War Data analysis on 70 million replays MBCGame Torrents
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile ZeroSpace Megathread The Perfect Game
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
Physical Exertion During Gam…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1855 users

DHM Fall 2021 - Regionals - Page 7

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 15 Next All
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-14 16:51:39
August 14 2021 16:51 GMT
#121
His wins against both mlord and uthermal didn't convince me, Clem should destroy him, gogo !
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9259 Posts
August 14 2021 17:01 GMT
#122
Yea Maxpax looked very vulnerable in his PvT against Marinelord
You're now breathing manually
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
August 14 2021 17:09 GMT
#123
Silly casters thinking Heromarine had a chance against Serral.

Heromarine is a great player and Serral is less invincible than he has been in the past but come on, Heromarine has shown very little indication of being able to take out Serral or Reynor in a high stakes series.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26202 Posts
August 14 2021 17:47 GMT
#124
On August 15 2021 02:09 dysenterymd wrote:
Silly casters thinking Heromarine had a chance against Serral.

Heromarine is a great player and Serral is less invincible than he has been in the past but come on, Heromarine has shown very little indication of being able to take out Serral or Reynor in a high stakes series.

Casters forever hype up Gabe as if he’s a peer of a Serral or a Reynor.

He’s a fantastic player but he isn’t that. He can beat them sure but he’s got to play out of his skin and have them maybe be at 90/95% of their top form.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
ZombieGrub
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States712 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-14 18:01:03
August 14 2021 17:56 GMT
#125
On August 15 2021 02:47 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2021 02:09 dysenterymd wrote:
Silly casters thinking Heromarine had a chance against Serral.

Heromarine is a great player and Serral is less invincible than he has been in the past but come on, Heromarine has shown very little indication of being able to take out Serral or Reynor in a high stakes series.

Casters forever hype up Gabe as if he’s a peer of a Serral or a Reynor.

He’s a fantastic player but he isn’t that. He can beat them sure but he’s got to play out of his skin and have them maybe be at 90/95% of their top form.


I feel strongly that this is false. We usually are very quick to point out that it's "top three EU - clem, serral, reynor, and Heromarine is the Gabekeeper who fights for 4th with Showtime/Lambo/Maxpax ". In open cup casts, in DH casts, so on and so forth.

Rotti and I have just recently been casting HM's TvZ's and been very impressed, that is the honest truth of it. Serral also did not look like he was in top shape in his ZvZ (obviously different match up, different opponent, but there were macro mistakes) and I personally was looking at the first game to see if he was in top shape for TvZ. He was, so he won.
Commentator"Defeat is the acceptance of my own laziness." - SlayerS_'Boxer'
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
August 14 2021 18:08 GMT
#126
On August 15 2021 02:47 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2021 02:09 dysenterymd wrote:
Silly casters thinking Heromarine had a chance against Serral.

Heromarine is a great player and Serral is less invincible than he has been in the past but come on, Heromarine has shown very little indication of being able to take out Serral or Reynor in a high stakes series.

Casters forever hype up Gabe as if he’s a peer of a Serral or a Reynor.

He’s a fantastic player but he isn’t that. He can beat them sure but he’s got to play out of his skin and have them maybe be at 90/95% of their top form.

I’m honestly tired of casters hyping up the game and trying to spread false narratives about the state of the game.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
August 14 2021 18:14 GMT
#127
so far MaxPax is getting rolled, didn't expect that tbh
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3517 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-14 18:16:42
August 14 2021 18:15 GMT
#128
On August 15 2021 03:14 [PkF] Wire wrote:
so far MaxPax is getting rolled, didn't expect that tbh

I did, he is a solid top6-8 player who got kind of a lucky bracket this time, but vs the top4 he usually loses.
Calliope
Profile Joined July 2018
297 Posts
August 14 2021 18:17 GMT
#129
Give the casters a break, though. Big G is king in all matchups except vs top zergs. The foreign scene has always been pretty much exclusively dominated by zergs (Naniwa, Major, Thorzain, etc, can hardly be considered domination). Let the casters help us believe that terran is a race available to foreigners.
Clément 화이팅
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
August 14 2021 18:19 GMT
#130
double ebay block ??? hahahaha
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-14 18:24:10
August 14 2021 18:21 GMT
#131
what a weird game

wow some solid micro displays, that was tense !!!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26202 Posts
August 14 2021 18:25 GMT
#132
On August 15 2021 03:17 Calliope wrote:
Give the casters a break, though. Big G is king in all matchups except vs top zergs. The foreign scene has always been pretty much exclusively dominated by zergs (Naniwa, Major, Thorzain, etc, can hardly be considered domination). Let the casters help us believe that terran is a race available to foreigners.

Clem exists?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26202 Posts
August 14 2021 18:28 GMT
#133
On August 15 2021 02:56 ZombieGrub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2021 02:47 WombaT wrote:
On August 15 2021 02:09 dysenterymd wrote:
Silly casters thinking Heromarine had a chance against Serral.

Heromarine is a great player and Serral is less invincible than he has been in the past but come on, Heromarine has shown very little indication of being able to take out Serral or Reynor in a high stakes series.

Casters forever hype up Gabe as if he’s a peer of a Serral or a Reynor.

He’s a fantastic player but he isn’t that. He can beat them sure but he’s got to play out of his skin and have them maybe be at 90/95% of their top form.


I feel strongly that this is false. We usually are very quick to point out that it's "top three EU - clem, serral, reynor, and Heromarine is the Gabekeeper who fights for 4th with Showtime/Lambo/Maxpax ". In open cup casts, in DH casts, so on and so forth.

Rotti and I have just recently been casting HM's TvZ's and been very impressed, that is the honest truth of it. Serral also did not look like he was in top shape in his ZvZ (obviously different match up, different opponent, but there were macro mistakes) and I personally was looking at the first game to see if he was in top shape for TvZ. He was, so he won.

Fair, I haven’t really had an issue with your casting of Heromarine matches either.

Everyone has their bugbears, I find Heromarine matches, especially if he’s playing a good Korean it’s borderline unlistenable.

If it’s a reasonably comparable talent like say, Special, be it in GSL even with Tastosis who personally know the guy, or elsewhere it’s, generally fine. If it’s Heromarine it’s ‘Big Gabe’ memes half the time, talking about how great he is to the ignorance of his opponent’s chops the other.

Maybe it’s just me and my particular sensibilities.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
August 14 2021 18:31 GMT
#134
MaxPax with the true Zest bank
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
August 14 2021 18:33 GMT
#135
that no armor style really mesmerizes me, especially with those huge banks. You definitely have enough money to squeeze armor upgrades with those DTs / disruptors
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
August 14 2021 18:33 GMT
#136
On August 15 2021 03:28 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2021 02:56 ZombieGrub wrote:
On August 15 2021 02:47 WombaT wrote:
On August 15 2021 02:09 dysenterymd wrote:
Silly casters thinking Heromarine had a chance against Serral.

Heromarine is a great player and Serral is less invincible than he has been in the past but come on, Heromarine has shown very little indication of being able to take out Serral or Reynor in a high stakes series.

Casters forever hype up Gabe as if he’s a peer of a Serral or a Reynor.

He’s a fantastic player but he isn’t that. He can beat them sure but he’s got to play out of his skin and have them maybe be at 90/95% of their top form.


I feel strongly that this is false. We usually are very quick to point out that it's "top three EU - clem, serral, reynor, and Heromarine is the Gabekeeper who fights for 4th with Showtime/Lambo/Maxpax ". In open cup casts, in DH casts, so on and so forth.

Rotti and I have just recently been casting HM's TvZ's and been very impressed, that is the honest truth of it. Serral also did not look like he was in top shape in his ZvZ (obviously different match up, different opponent, but there were macro mistakes) and I personally was looking at the first game to see if he was in top shape for TvZ. He was, so he won.

Fair, I haven’t really had an issue with your casting of Heromarine matches either.

Everyone has their bugbears, I find Heromarine matches, especially if he’s playing a good Korean it’s borderline unlistenable.

If it’s a reasonably comparable talent like say, Special, be it in GSL even with Tastosis who personally know the guy, or elsewhere it’s, generally fine. If it’s Heromarine it’s ‘Big Gabe’ memes half the time, talking about how great he is to the ignorance of his opponent’s chops the other.

Maybe it’s just me and my particular sensibilities.


On the other hand, Special seems rly overhyped in these threads who give the impression he is currently at gabe's level while he is not since a good year.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
August 14 2021 18:34 GMT
#137
did MP blow his own stalkers ?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
August 14 2021 18:37 GMT
#138
the 0 armor upgrade really saved Clem... for the time being
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-14 18:41:39
August 14 2021 18:37 GMT
#139
On August 15 2021 03:25 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2021 03:17 Calliope wrote:
Give the casters a break, though. Big G is king in all matchups except vs top zergs. The foreign scene has always been pretty much exclusively dominated by zergs (Naniwa, Major, Thorzain, etc, can hardly be considered domination). Let the casters help us believe that terran is a race available to foreigners.

Clem exists?

Clem is kind of a TvZ specialist tho, he could refine his matchup to where it is because 2 of the ''Zerg Horseman'' play in Europe. He's not much better(if at all) than Heromarine in TvT or TvP. Not like Serral and Reynor who play world class Starcraft in any matchup.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-14 18:41:40
August 14 2021 18:39 GMT
#140
those zealots look so desperate
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 15 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
17:00
#33
MaxPax vs ClemLIVE!
SteadfastSC603
TKL 500
IndyStarCraft 239
BRAT_OK 80
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Clem_sc2 1152
SteadfastSC 603
TKL 500
PiGStarcraft389
IndyStarCraft 239
Liquid`TLO 129
ProTech120
BRAT_OK 80
JuggernautJason61
elazer 13
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 1761
Shuttle 693
Dota 2
syndereN604
Counter-Strike
allub185
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby4176
Liquid`Hasu555
Other Games
B2W.Neo554
ArmadaUGS189
KnowMe145
XaKoH 130
ToD107
Livibee41
ZombieGrub39
NarutO 30
Chillindude17
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV119
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 158
• Hupsaiya 38
• RyuSc2 15
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki48
• FirePhoenix19
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler123
League of Legends
• TFBlade1309
Other Games
• imaqtpie2127
• Shiphtur161
Upcoming Events
WardiTV 2025
13h 35m
StarCraft2.fi
17h 35m
PiGosaur Monday
1d 2h
StarCraft2.fi
1d 18h
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV 2025
2 days
StarCraft2.fi
2 days
WardiTV 2025
3 days
StarCraft2.fi
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Sziky vs JDConan
RSL Revival
5 days
Classic vs TBD
herO vs Zoun
WardiTV 2025
5 days
IPSL
5 days
Tarson vs DragOn
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Revival: Season 3
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
RSL Offline Finals
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.