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stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2747 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-14 16:51:39
August 14 2021 16:51 GMT
#121
His wins against both mlord and uthermal didn't convince me, Clem should destroy him, gogo !
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9168 Posts
August 14 2021 17:01 GMT
#122
Yea Maxpax looked very vulnerable in his PvT against Marinelord
You're now breathing manually
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1195 Posts
August 14 2021 17:09 GMT
#123
Silly casters thinking Heromarine had a chance against Serral.

Heromarine is a great player and Serral is less invincible than he has been in the past but come on, Heromarine has shown very little indication of being able to take out Serral or Reynor in a high stakes series.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24923 Posts
August 14 2021 17:47 GMT
#124
On August 15 2021 02:09 dysenterymd wrote:
Silly casters thinking Heromarine had a chance against Serral.

Heromarine is a great player and Serral is less invincible than he has been in the past but come on, Heromarine has shown very little indication of being able to take out Serral or Reynor in a high stakes series.

Casters forever hype up Gabe as if he’s a peer of a Serral or a Reynor.

He’s a fantastic player but he isn’t that. He can beat them sure but he’s got to play out of his skin and have them maybe be at 90/95% of their top form.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
ZombieGrub
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States693 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-14 18:01:03
August 14 2021 17:56 GMT
#125
On August 15 2021 02:47 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2021 02:09 dysenterymd wrote:
Silly casters thinking Heromarine had a chance against Serral.

Heromarine is a great player and Serral is less invincible than he has been in the past but come on, Heromarine has shown very little indication of being able to take out Serral or Reynor in a high stakes series.

Casters forever hype up Gabe as if he’s a peer of a Serral or a Reynor.

He’s a fantastic player but he isn’t that. He can beat them sure but he’s got to play out of his skin and have them maybe be at 90/95% of their top form.


I feel strongly that this is false. We usually are very quick to point out that it's "top three EU - clem, serral, reynor, and Heromarine is the Gabekeeper who fights for 4th with Showtime/Lambo/Maxpax ". In open cup casts, in DH casts, so on and so forth.

Rotti and I have just recently been casting HM's TvZ's and been very impressed, that is the honest truth of it. Serral also did not look like he was in top shape in his ZvZ (obviously different match up, different opponent, but there were macro mistakes) and I personally was looking at the first game to see if he was in top shape for TvZ. He was, so he won.
Commentator"Defeat is the acceptance of my own laziness." - SlayerS_'Boxer'
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8230 Posts
August 14 2021 18:08 GMT
#126
On August 15 2021 02:47 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2021 02:09 dysenterymd wrote:
Silly casters thinking Heromarine had a chance against Serral.

Heromarine is a great player and Serral is less invincible than he has been in the past but come on, Heromarine has shown very little indication of being able to take out Serral or Reynor in a high stakes series.

Casters forever hype up Gabe as if he’s a peer of a Serral or a Reynor.

He’s a fantastic player but he isn’t that. He can beat them sure but he’s got to play out of his skin and have them maybe be at 90/95% of their top form.

I’m honestly tired of casters hyping up the game and trying to spread false narratives about the state of the game.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
August 14 2021 18:14 GMT
#127
so far MaxPax is getting rolled, didn't expect that tbh
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3453 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-14 18:16:42
August 14 2021 18:15 GMT
#128
On August 15 2021 03:14 [PkF] Wire wrote:
so far MaxPax is getting rolled, didn't expect that tbh

I did, he is a solid top6-8 player who got kind of a lucky bracket this time, but vs the top4 he usually loses.
Calliope
Profile Joined July 2018
297 Posts
August 14 2021 18:17 GMT
#129
Give the casters a break, though. Big G is king in all matchups except vs top zergs. The foreign scene has always been pretty much exclusively dominated by zergs (Naniwa, Major, Thorzain, etc, can hardly be considered domination). Let the casters help us believe that terran is a race available to foreigners.
Clément 화이팅
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
August 14 2021 18:19 GMT
#130
double ebay block ??? hahahaha
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-14 18:24:10
August 14 2021 18:21 GMT
#131
what a weird game

wow some solid micro displays, that was tense !!!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24923 Posts
August 14 2021 18:25 GMT
#132
On August 15 2021 03:17 Calliope wrote:
Give the casters a break, though. Big G is king in all matchups except vs top zergs. The foreign scene has always been pretty much exclusively dominated by zergs (Naniwa, Major, Thorzain, etc, can hardly be considered domination). Let the casters help us believe that terran is a race available to foreigners.

Clem exists?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24923 Posts
August 14 2021 18:28 GMT
#133
On August 15 2021 02:56 ZombieGrub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2021 02:47 WombaT wrote:
On August 15 2021 02:09 dysenterymd wrote:
Silly casters thinking Heromarine had a chance against Serral.

Heromarine is a great player and Serral is less invincible than he has been in the past but come on, Heromarine has shown very little indication of being able to take out Serral or Reynor in a high stakes series.

Casters forever hype up Gabe as if he’s a peer of a Serral or a Reynor.

He’s a fantastic player but he isn’t that. He can beat them sure but he’s got to play out of his skin and have them maybe be at 90/95% of their top form.


I feel strongly that this is false. We usually are very quick to point out that it's "top three EU - clem, serral, reynor, and Heromarine is the Gabekeeper who fights for 4th with Showtime/Lambo/Maxpax ". In open cup casts, in DH casts, so on and so forth.

Rotti and I have just recently been casting HM's TvZ's and been very impressed, that is the honest truth of it. Serral also did not look like he was in top shape in his ZvZ (obviously different match up, different opponent, but there were macro mistakes) and I personally was looking at the first game to see if he was in top shape for TvZ. He was, so he won.

Fair, I haven’t really had an issue with your casting of Heromarine matches either.

Everyone has their bugbears, I find Heromarine matches, especially if he’s playing a good Korean it’s borderline unlistenable.

If it’s a reasonably comparable talent like say, Special, be it in GSL even with Tastosis who personally know the guy, or elsewhere it’s, generally fine. If it’s Heromarine it’s ‘Big Gabe’ memes half the time, talking about how great he is to the ignorance of his opponent’s chops the other.

Maybe it’s just me and my particular sensibilities.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
August 14 2021 18:31 GMT
#134
MaxPax with the true Zest bank
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
August 14 2021 18:33 GMT
#135
that no armor style really mesmerizes me, especially with those huge banks. You definitely have enough money to squeeze armor upgrades with those DTs / disruptors
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2747 Posts
August 14 2021 18:33 GMT
#136
On August 15 2021 03:28 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2021 02:56 ZombieGrub wrote:
On August 15 2021 02:47 WombaT wrote:
On August 15 2021 02:09 dysenterymd wrote:
Silly casters thinking Heromarine had a chance against Serral.

Heromarine is a great player and Serral is less invincible than he has been in the past but come on, Heromarine has shown very little indication of being able to take out Serral or Reynor in a high stakes series.

Casters forever hype up Gabe as if he’s a peer of a Serral or a Reynor.

He’s a fantastic player but he isn’t that. He can beat them sure but he’s got to play out of his skin and have them maybe be at 90/95% of their top form.


I feel strongly that this is false. We usually are very quick to point out that it's "top three EU - clem, serral, reynor, and Heromarine is the Gabekeeper who fights for 4th with Showtime/Lambo/Maxpax ". In open cup casts, in DH casts, so on and so forth.

Rotti and I have just recently been casting HM's TvZ's and been very impressed, that is the honest truth of it. Serral also did not look like he was in top shape in his ZvZ (obviously different match up, different opponent, but there were macro mistakes) and I personally was looking at the first game to see if he was in top shape for TvZ. He was, so he won.

Fair, I haven’t really had an issue with your casting of Heromarine matches either.

Everyone has their bugbears, I find Heromarine matches, especially if he’s playing a good Korean it’s borderline unlistenable.

If it’s a reasonably comparable talent like say, Special, be it in GSL even with Tastosis who personally know the guy, or elsewhere it’s, generally fine. If it’s Heromarine it’s ‘Big Gabe’ memes half the time, talking about how great he is to the ignorance of his opponent’s chops the other.

Maybe it’s just me and my particular sensibilities.


On the other hand, Special seems rly overhyped in these threads who give the impression he is currently at gabe's level while he is not since a good year.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
August 14 2021 18:34 GMT
#137
did MP blow his own stalkers ?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
August 14 2021 18:37 GMT
#138
the 0 armor upgrade really saved Clem... for the time being
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-14 18:41:39
August 14 2021 18:37 GMT
#139
On August 15 2021 03:25 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2021 03:17 Calliope wrote:
Give the casters a break, though. Big G is king in all matchups except vs top zergs. The foreign scene has always been pretty much exclusively dominated by zergs (Naniwa, Major, Thorzain, etc, can hardly be considered domination). Let the casters help us believe that terran is a race available to foreigners.

Clem exists?

Clem is kind of a TvZ specialist tho, he could refine his matchup to where it is because 2 of the ''Zerg Horseman'' play in Europe. He's not much better(if at all) than Heromarine in TvT or TvP. Not like Serral and Reynor who play world class Starcraft in any matchup.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-14 18:41:40
August 14 2021 18:39 GMT
#140
those zealots look so desperate
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