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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25396 Posts
May 27 2021 15:21 GMT
#201
On May 27 2021 23:43 Obamarauder wrote:
Am I the only one that doesn't find trap to be an amazing player? Sure he wins tournaments but it doesn't give the same feeling compared to Zest or Stats.

Heathen.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3397 Posts
May 27 2021 15:34 GMT
#202
On May 27 2021 23:43 Obamarauder wrote:
Am I the only one that doesn't find trap to be an amazing player? Sure he wins tournaments but it doesn't give the same feeling compared to Zest or Stats.

Trap skill is just as good as the other 2, if not better currently. He still need to show it on the biggest stage though, like Zest and Stats made it to WCS and IEM Finals, Trap still hasnt cracked into top 4 of those tournaments yet.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
May 27 2021 17:58 GMT
#203
On May 27 2021 23:43 Obamarauder wrote:
Am I the only one that doesn't find trap to be an amazing player? Sure he wins tournaments but it doesn't give the same feeling compared to Zest or Stats.

I think it's because he's a jack-of-all-trades style player. He doesn't have nearly as many "wow this guy's a genius" flashy strategies that sOs and Zest do but also doesn't always play the "look bulletproof despite playing a more passive, low risk style" thing Stats did. Because of this, he doesn't have the inherent weaknesses either of those styles of play but is still able to mix in characteristics of both styles into his play. Trap's style of play is basically the happy medium between the two extremes and as a result it makes his play sometimes look average or simple despite him being all around one of the best protoss players in the world.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25396 Posts
May 27 2021 20:37 GMT
#204
On May 28 2021 02:58 Ben... wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2021 23:43 Obamarauder wrote:
Am I the only one that doesn't find trap to be an amazing player? Sure he wins tournaments but it doesn't give the same feeling compared to Zest or Stats.

I think it's because he's a jack-of-all-trades style player. He doesn't have nearly as many "wow this guy's a genius" flashy strategies that sOs and Zest do but also doesn't always play the "look bulletproof despite playing a more passive, low risk style" thing Stats did. Because of this, he doesn't have the inherent weaknesses either of those styles of play but is still able to mix in characteristics of both styles into his play. Trap's style of play is basically the happy medium between the two extremes and as a result it makes his play sometimes look average or simple despite him being all around one of the best protoss players in the world.

Yeah I think he’s a bit underrated base on his style, doesn’t have that madcap streak of an sOs, quite the micro and balls of a Parting, the build order magic of Zest or Stat’s playing the ‘right’ way but he’s so damn rounded and clean in so much of his play.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
May 27 2021 21:33 GMT
#205
On May 28 2021 05:37 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2021 02:58 Ben... wrote:
On May 27 2021 23:43 Obamarauder wrote:
Am I the only one that doesn't find trap to be an amazing player? Sure he wins tournaments but it doesn't give the same feeling compared to Zest or Stats.

I think it's because he's a jack-of-all-trades style player. He doesn't have nearly as many "wow this guy's a genius" flashy strategies that sOs and Zest do but also doesn't always play the "look bulletproof despite playing a more passive, low risk style" thing Stats did. Because of this, he doesn't have the inherent weaknesses either of those styles of play but is still able to mix in characteristics of both styles into his play. Trap's style of play is basically the happy medium between the two extremes and as a result it makes his play sometimes look average or simple despite him being all around one of the best protoss players in the world.

Yeah I think he’s a bit underrated base on his style, doesn’t have that madcap streak of an sOs, quite the micro and balls of a Parting, the build order magic of Zest or Stat’s playing the ‘right’ way but he’s so damn rounded and clean in so much of his play.

Yeah, underselling Trap is pretty ridiculous. Trap is the only Protoss to win a Premier tournament in 2020 or 2021 other than Dreamhack: NA.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4009 Posts
May 28 2021 09:23 GMT
#206
wait so Trap won the last 3 STs? Is he the King of Korean "weekenders"?
Overall his 2019-2021 performance was absolutely stellar - no one can take this away from him.
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Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3110 Posts
June 07 2021 15:22 GMT
#207
Yeah Trap is one of those players who are less entertaining to watch generally, but are actually better players overall with a very well-rounded and honed skillset. He's not ever going to be my favorite Protoss to watch, but he deserves every bit of respect he's given.
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