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sneakyfox
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On June 10 2021 19:48 sneakyfox wrote: Wait there has been a Maru vs Serral match and everyone wasn't going crazy about it? It looks like NEXT is not widely followed by the users of this forum; also, I am pretty sure that there would have been many more comments if Maru won the match but it might be just me. On June 10 2021 14:22 parksonsc wrote: Why are we talking too much about a player who couldn't manage top 4 Europe? Ah, I have no clue; this noname must have massively improved in three days given he 2-0d both Maru and Zest. | ||
Poopi
France12911 Posts
On June 10 2021 19:48 sneakyfox wrote: Wait there has been a Maru vs Serral match and everyone wasn't going crazy about it? It’s kinda hard to be super hyped about cross play matches though :| Especially if it’s not a super major tournament like IEM or the DH inter. The match itself was quite boring as well Edit: Serral is in the group so seems normal to talk about it, and he got eliminated from dreamhack because of ZvZ, he can play the other match-ups just fine | ||
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sneakyfox
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buzz_bender
445 Posts
On June 10 2021 21:08 sneakyfox wrote: Mostly I'd say it's just that we already had a few matches between them and neither are at the top of their regions anymore. It would probably take a proper offline playoff match between them to reignite the hype. What I would be more interested in discussing is Maru's change in playstyle against Zergs. He used to be the super aggressive type, very much like Clem, but in the last year or so, he has completely changed into a very defensive playstyle. Anyone can figure out why? Maps? Injury? Or does he really think that it's the most optimal way of playing against Zergs? | ||
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Poopi
France12911 Posts
On June 10 2021 21:38 buzz_bender wrote: What I would be more interested in discussing is Maru's change in playstyle against Zergs. He used to be the super aggressive type, very much like Clem, but in the last year or so, he has completely changed into a very defensive playstyle. Anyone can figure out why? Maps? Injury? Or does he really think that it's the most optimal way of playing against Zergs? I am not 100% sure but I think he only does that often in online play, so probably because of ping. | ||
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tigera6
3482 Posts
On June 10 2021 21:51 Poopi wrote: I am not 100% sure but I think he only does that often in online play, so probably because of ping. Maru actually does the same style in GSL as well, going turtle or proxy against Solar in the previous Code S. Since the end of last year, Maru has been alot passive with his TvZ playstyle, with moderate harrassment and then go full macro and turtle at home. Not sure why he is not mixing it up more aggressive build or even proxy in online tournament, or he thinking about saving them for the later round, knowing he would crush the TvP and move on anyway. | ||
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buzz_bender
445 Posts
On June 11 2021 00:52 tigera6 wrote: Maru actually does the same style in GSL as well, going turtle or proxy against Solar in the previous Code S. Since the end of last year, Maru has been alot passive with his TvZ playstyle, with moderate harrassment and then go full macro and turtle at home. Not sure why he is not mixing it up more aggressive build or even proxy in online tournament, or he thinking about saving them for the later round, knowing he would crush the TvP and move on anyway. Yeah, that's why I find it strange. It seems to be such a departure from his previous style. Unless I'm mistaken and he has always been like this. It's like someone like Reynor suddenly stopped playing his aggressive ling style, and adopt Serral's full-blown defensive style (although Serral himself has changed his playstyle) | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On June 11 2021 13:08 buzz_bender wrote: Yeah, that's why I find it strange. It seems to be such a departure from his previous style. Unless I'm mistaken and he has always been like this. It's like someone like Reynor suddenly stopped playing his aggressive ling style, and adopt Serral's full-blown defensive style (although Serral himself has changed his playstyle) Maru has played a wide range of styles in the past though. Sure there's been times where he proxied every other game, or was all about drops, but there's also been times where he turtled quite heavily (for example when King's Cove was in the map pool, or when mass raven was good). I don't know what motivates these stylistic choices for Maru, but presumably he must think this lategame focused style of ZvT is a good style to play (and it is when he manages to get there). His injuries could certainly play into this though. | ||
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buzz_bender
445 Posts
On June 11 2021 13:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I don't know what motivates these stylistic choices for Maru, but presumably he must think this lategame focused style of ZvT is a good style to play (and it is when he manages to get there). His injuries could certainly play into this though. To be fair, Maru is the only one who can play this style against these top Zergs, with the exception of maybe Serral. He almost pulled it off against Reynor, but messed up in Games 3 onwards. Part of a style like this is probably also understanding how the other player plays, so it's not surprising that he doesn't do too well against someone like Serral. I think if he played a bit more with these top EU Zergs, he might start having better results. (It could also be why Rogue played that particular style against Maru, since Rogue knew what he would be going for). But you're right that it could also be entirely down to his injury, although it seems like he is more or less gotten over it. His performances over the last few major tournaments have been great. He just fell a *tiny* bit short in the Semis. I think if he was in the finals, he would have won (both Katowice 2021, and GSL ST S1). | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7139 Posts
Rogue knows how dangerous Maru late game is, that's why he is roach busting 90% of the games | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7139 Posts
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tigera6
3482 Posts
On June 14 2021 21:50 Harris1st wrote: So did Gabe just win vs Trap? There is so much SC2 going on right now I completely missed this :/ Yeah Gabe beat Trap quite convincingly with strong 2 base push. Protoss has been too greedy lately with getting early 3rd base and tech up into Storm, HM really shut that down. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7139 Posts
I thought even game 1 just now looked favored for Gabe but he got a bit out multitasked at the end. | ||
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tigera6
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
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tigera6
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dysenterymd
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