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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3516 Posts
June 22 2021 11:57 GMT
#121
It wasnt even peak performance from Trap micro-wise, he didnt do any thing amazing with the harrassment. But Trap build was on point and Serral was afraid to move out until he finally saw the deathball Toss army that obliberate everything.
Solio
Profile Joined June 2016
France145 Posts
June 22 2021 12:02 GMT
#122
Trap's forcefields... so perfect, what a god
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13023 Posts
June 22 2021 12:02 GMT
#123
On June 22 2021 20:50 yht9657 wrote:
Been a while since foreigners got completely rekt in a major tourney, Clem took it especially hard.

Where did you see him take it hard?
WriterMaru
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7435 Posts
June 22 2021 14:19 GMT
#124
Trap looking as solid as ever.

EU slump confirmed though
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2467 Posts
June 22 2021 15:00 GMT
#125
Serral might be slumping like other Korean pro players after period of dominance as he kept losing to Reynor, Clem and Trap now. These might hurt his confidence level for months or maybe a year long if not taken seriously.

Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
June 22 2021 17:56 GMT
#126
On June 23 2021 00:00 swarminfestor wrote:
Serral might be slumping like other Korean pro players after period of dominance as he kept losing to Reynor, Clem and Trap now. These might hurt his confidence level for months or maybe a year long if not taken seriously.



Serral is not at the top right now that's for sure but you need to consider that losing to Reynor (the best Z), Trap (the best P) and Clem (one of the best TvZ) is something that's nothing to be ashamed of.

Still, he's not the monster he used to be.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-22 20:02:55
June 22 2021 19:34 GMT
#127
On June 23 2021 02:56 JoeCool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2021 00:00 swarminfestor wrote:
Serral might be slumping like other Korean pro players after period of dominance as he kept losing to Reynor, Clem and Trap now. These might hurt his confidence level for months or maybe a year long if not taken seriously.



Serral is not at the top right now that's for sure but you need to consider that losing to Reynor (the best Z), Trap (the best P) and Clem (one of the best TvZ) is something that's nothing to be ashamed of.

Still, he's not the monster he used to be.


He did also lose to Lambo which is a bigger upset, but it's true that Serral has been losing matches that are not huge surprises at least. Meanwhile Clem losing to Lilbow is a bit more of a head-scratcher.

The ways in which Serral has lost are a bit concerning though--usually he tries to get a perfect read on his opponent and reacts appropriately. But some of his losses were a bit uncharacteristic, where he gets caught out overdroning or teching and so on. Those are the games where it especially feels like peak Serral wouldn't have lost them.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3516 Posts
June 23 2021 07:36 GMT
#128
On June 23 2021 02:56 JoeCool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2021 00:00 swarminfestor wrote:
Serral might be slumping like other Korean pro players after period of dominance as he kept losing to Reynor, Clem and Trap now. These might hurt his confidence level for months or maybe a year long if not taken seriously.



Serral is not at the top right now that's for sure but you need to consider that losing to Reynor (the best Z), Trap (the best P) and Clem (one of the best TvZ) is something that's nothing to be ashamed of.

Still, he's not the monster he used to be.

Well, technically you can only lose 2 matches in most global tournaments to be out of it, and there will be nothing but "best of the world" player-type in those matches. So there is nothing for Serral to be ashamed of to lose and drop out a couple tournaments, its a concern at the very least to a guy who used to dominate the global scence just around 2 years ago.
And I agree with the opinion that Serral has more things to worry about in EU scene with Clem and Reynor now that it might have affected his concentration and perfomance elsewhere. Like he has to practice and think how to get over those guys, that he doesnt spend as much time to prepare for the other upcoming opponent/matchup.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2467 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-23 11:57:26
June 23 2021 11:55 GMT
#129
Maru wasting time not to harass Solar for long time until he discovered it was too late. I think mech armies can still harass with raven or widow mines while deceiving Solar's corruptors with incoming Bcs?
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3562 Posts
June 23 2021 12:11 GMT
#130
Time for solars yearly good run?
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
June 23 2021 12:16 GMT
#131
Maru losing to Solar should be a wake up call for him to rethink his TvZ playstyle and strategies. To be honest Marus TvZ has been looking quite week for a long time now, but still it was good enough to bop players on the level of Solar. Now it seems he is completely figured out.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2467 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-23 12:31:18
June 23 2021 12:29 GMT
#132
On June 23 2021 21:16 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Maru losing to Solar should be a wake up call for him to rethink his TvZ playstyle and strategies. To be honest Marus TvZ has been looking quite week for a long time now, but still it was good enough to bop players on the level of Solar. Now it seems he is completely figured out.


Just now I saw someone posted that Maru was practising using Protoss in the ladder. Could this affect his TvZ style?

Maybe a lack of Zerg practice partner in team NV could lead to his weak TvZ playstyle currently. Maru was so good in TvZ last time because Rogue was in his the team before so that they can practise together.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2467 Posts
June 23 2021 12:42 GMT
#133
Cure lost 25 ScVs and he still won the 1st game. GG.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
446 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-23 13:24:14
June 23 2021 12:56 GMT
#134
On June 23 2021 21:29 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2021 21:16 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Maru losing to Solar should be a wake up call for him to rethink his TvZ playstyle and strategies. To be honest Marus TvZ has been looking quite week for a long time now, but still it was good enough to bop players on the level of Solar. Now it seems he is completely figured out.

Maybe a lack of Zerg practice partner in team NV could lead to his weak TvZ playstyle currently. Maru was so good in TvZ last time because Rogue was in his the team before so that they can practise together.


I think this is the issue. His TvZ has been very weak since the disbanding of the Jin Air team.

While this may be super unlikely, I am also wondering if he is saving builds for the Season Finals next week.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
June 23 2021 13:32 GMT
#135
yo that ending for Trap vs Cure was fireeeeeeee
Faker is the GOAT!
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3516 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-23 13:39:55
June 23 2021 13:34 GMT
#136
On June 23 2021 21:29 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2021 21:16 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Maru losing to Solar should be a wake up call for him to rethink his TvZ playstyle and strategies. To be honest Marus TvZ has been looking quite week for a long time now, but still it was good enough to bop players on the level of Solar. Now it seems he is completely figured out.


Just now I saw someone posted that Maru was practising using Protoss in the ladder. Could this affect his TvZ style?

Maybe a lack of Zerg practice partner in team NV could lead to his weak TvZ playstyle currently. Maru was so good in TvZ last time because Rogue was in his the team before so that they can practise together.

I heard from Lambo in one of the stream that Maru actually had to practice against some EU Zerg in preparation against Rogue in the previous GSL Finals. Dont know who that was, but obviously no Roach all-in pressure was being practiced.
As for Maru recent TvZ style, it seems like everything are all over the place. Game 1 was a pressure push, game 3 was mech, game 4 was mass widow mines dropping. But Maru didnt execute any of the strategy well, seems like he just want to try something DIFFERENT rather than trying to do it BETTER. I would say just pick a style, stick with it and get better.
Btw the Terran dynamic is kinda weird, because on one hand we have Clem who hope that Zerg would beat up all the other Toss and Terrans before he demolish them later. On the other hand, we have Maru who hope that other Toss and Terran would beat all the Zerg and he can win by beating them.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2467 Posts
June 23 2021 13:37 GMT
#137
On June 23 2021 22:32 AzAlexZ wrote:
yo that ending for Trap vs Cure was fireeeeeeee


If Cure mad correct decision in the either last two games, he could win the series.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2467 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-23 13:47:09
June 23 2021 13:45 GMT
#138
Double post. Unintended.

Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2467 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-23 13:48:12
June 23 2021 13:46 GMT
#139
On June 23 2021 22:34 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2021 21:29 swarminfestor wrote:
On June 23 2021 21:16 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Maru losing to Solar should be a wake up call for him to rethink his TvZ playstyle and strategies. To be honest Marus TvZ has been looking quite week for a long time now, but still it was good enough to bop players on the level of Solar. Now it seems he is completely figured out.


Just now I saw someone posted that Maru was practising using Protoss in the ladder. Could this affect his TvZ style?

Maybe a lack of Zerg practice partner in team NV could lead to his weak TvZ playstyle currently. Maru was so good in TvZ last time because Rogue was in his the team before so that they can practise together.

I heard from Lambo in one of the stream that Maru actually had to practice against some EU Zerg in preparation against Rogue in the previous GSL Finals. Dont know who that was, but obviously no Roach all-in pressure was being practiced.
As for Maru recent TvZ style, it seems like everything are all over the place. Game 1 was a pressure push, game 3 was mech, game 4 was mass widow mines dropping. But Maru didnt execute any of the strategy well, seems like he just want to try something DIFFERENT rather than trying to do it BETTER. I would say just pick a style, stick with it and get better.
Btw the Terran dynamic is kinda weird, because on one hand we have Clem who hope that Zerg would beat up all the other Toss and Terrans before he demolish them later. On the other hand, we have Maru who hope that other Toss and Terran would beat all the Zerg and he can win by beating them.



DRG and Armani were the only left in Korean scenes. Since Solar just denied to Ro8 by Maru that time and Dark was in the same team with Rogue, I don't think they will offer themselves to be his screen partner. The rumour that Eu Zerg to be his practice partners could be true.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
June 23 2021 15:51 GMT
#140
On June 23 2021 22:34 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2021 21:29 swarminfestor wrote:
On June 23 2021 21:16 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Maru losing to Solar should be a wake up call for him to rethink his TvZ playstyle and strategies. To be honest Marus TvZ has been looking quite week for a long time now, but still it was good enough to bop players on the level of Solar. Now it seems he is completely figured out.


Just now I saw someone posted that Maru was practising using Protoss in the ladder. Could this affect his TvZ style?

Maybe a lack of Zerg practice partner in team NV could lead to his weak TvZ playstyle currently. Maru was so good in TvZ last time because Rogue was in his the team before so that they can practise together.

Btw the Terran dynamic is kinda weird, because on one hand we have Clem who hope that Zerg would beat up all the other Toss and Terrans before he demolish them later. On the other hand, we have Maru who hope that other Toss and Terran would beat all the Zerg and he can win by beating them.


I feel like this is quite common actually. Top Terrans have often been good at different matchups and thus hoped to get completely different players in the draw.
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