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Panic THREADIT STARTS NOW AND NOT IN 2 HOURS 30 MINUTES LIKE I THOUGHT
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TY vs Hurricane
Dark vs ByuNZest vs sOsTrap vs SolarAll BO5!
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[GSL 2020] Super Tournament 2 - Ro16 Day 1
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Durnuu
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Panic THREADIT STARTS NOW AND NOT IN 2 HOURS 30 MINUTES LIKE I THOUGHT Matches : TY vs HurricaneDark vs ByuNZest vs sOsTrap vs SolarAll BO5! Stream: | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On December 02 2020 17:02 Durnuu wrote: BUDGET Panic THREADIT STARTS NOW AND NOT IN 2 HOURS 30 MINUTES LIKE I THOUGHT Matches : TY vs HurricaneDark vs ByuNZest vs sOsTrap vs SolarAll BO5! Best LR OP I have ever seen | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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Durnuu
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Argonauta
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darklycid
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Durnuu
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On December 02 2020 17:50 darklycid wrote: So far it looks like TY does not really care, or he has a mediocre to bad day, not playing too well imo. As much as the "koreans don't care" excuse was bad for most koreans during dreamhack, it actually does apply to TY who has played far more BW than SC2 lately | ||
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Argonauta
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Vindicare605
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darklycid
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On December 02 2020 17:51 Durnuu wrote: As much as the "koreans don't care" excuse was bad for most koreans during dreamhack, it actually does apply to TY who has played far more BW than SC2 lately Yep. | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
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yoshi245
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EzioAs
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darklycid
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On December 02 2020 17:54 EzioAs wrote: I hope no Terrans use these games so far as proof to how one-sided PvT is at the moment. Hurricane is just playing better than TY so far. And that's with hurricane not even looking too good | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On December 02 2020 17:54 EzioAs wrote: I hope no Terrans use these games so far as proof to how one-sided PvT is at the moment. Hurricane is just playing better than TY so far. I still remember when hurricane 3-1'd rogue in last year's ST 1 and that was used as a linchpin, by many, for the argument that protoss timings in PvZ were too strong. Shortly after, Protoss midgame was nerfed and we know what ensued after. not saying blizzard listened to them or anything, but the memory is clear. | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4948 Posts
On December 02 2020 18:00 BerserkSword wrote: I still remember when hurricane 3-1'd rogue in last year's ST 1 and that was used as a linchpin, by many, for the argument that protoss timings in PvZ were too strong. Shortly after, Protoss midgame was nerfed and we know what ensued after. not saying blizzard listened to them or anything, but the memory is clear. it is almost like people cannot accept that hurricane is a good player and can take out top tier koreans in a good day. | ||
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darklycid
3510 Posts
On December 02 2020 18:02 Ziggy wrote: paniful to see how difficult it is for the best of the best terrans to remain consistent in this particular mu You are trolling aren't u? | ||
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Durnuu
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EzioAs
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Sif_
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umelbumel
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darklycid
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yoshi245
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Elentos
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On December 02 2020 18:06 darklycid wrote: Right now it looks like whoever advances here will get slaughtered next round. Hey by the next round of this tournament TY's BW tourney is over, he could actually practice then if he wanted to | ||
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darklycid
3510 Posts
On December 02 2020 18:07 Elentos wrote: Hey by the next round of this tournament TY's BW tourney is over, he could actually practice then if he wanted to I bet he doesn't want to tho | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On December 02 2020 18:02 Argonauta wrote: it is almost like people cannot accept that hurricane is a good player and can take out top tier koreans in a good day. yea hurricane is a dangerous player. he 2-0'd serral this year iirc too | ||
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darklycid
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Elentos
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On December 02 2020 18:02 Ziggy wrote: paniful to see how difficult it is for the best of the best terrans to remain consistent in this particular mu On December 02 2020 17:54 EzioAs wrote: I hope no Terrans use these games so far as proof to how one-sided PvT is at the moment. Hurricane is just playing better than TY so far. Perfection | ||
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Durnuu
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NoS-Craig
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darklycid
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Idk i would like to get poopi on this please. | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
6 made, 0 shots hit so far | ||
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
On December 02 2020 18:15 Durnuu wrote: Says something about PvT if terrans can win it so easily while playing only BW I wouldn't go that far. I mean it is still TY after all. Now if TY wins this entire tournament after streaming all that BW, then that's something else. | ||
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BerserkSword
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Argonauta
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EzioAs
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datastuff
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
On December 02 2020 18:24 datastuff wrote: Dark left DPG? Intro didn't show team either but first bracket graphic did I thought I saw Dark before the commercial break talking to someone and he had his DPG shirt on, but it was a camera shot zooming out so hard to tell exactly. [edit] Graphic shows he's still in DPG. | ||
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Elentos
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Edpayasugo
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Durnuu
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datastuff
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On December 02 2020 18:26 yoshi245 wrote: I thought I saw Dark before the commercial break talking to someone and he had his DPG shirt on, but it was a camera shot zooming out so hard to tell exactly. [edit] Graphic shows he's still in DPG. Yeah nvm, seems like afreeca just forgot for a couple things. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
much higher than usual | ||
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Mozdk
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Poopi
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BerserkSword
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Mozdk
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On December 02 2020 18:44 BerserkSword wrote: did dark just try to trap a byun reaper No it lived. Buyn didn't even SCV scout to check for early pool. | ||
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darklycid
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NoS-Craig
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Elentos
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yoshi245
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ToKoreaWithLove
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On December 02 2020 18:56 ToKoreaWithLove wrote: Just realized this could become Zest/sOs vs terrans from quarterfinals onwards. cowboy protoss and the mad scientist vs korean terrans sign me up | ||
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darklycid
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On December 02 2020 18:59 BerserkSword wrote: cowboy protoss and the mad scientist vs korean terrans sign me up Solar vs trap right below them disagrees with this tho | ||
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On December 02 2020 18:59 darklycid wrote: Solar vs trap right below them disagrees with this tho Solar is switching to Terran after recent performances from the race | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On December 02 2020 18:59 darklycid wrote: Solar vs trap right below them disagrees with this tho -_- i guess the terran killer vs a bunch of korean terrans is a good matchup too | ||
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ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
On December 02 2020 18:59 darklycid wrote: Solar vs trap right below them disagrees with this tho Oh my, that was embarrassing | ||
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darklycid
3510 Posts
On December 02 2020 19:00 Durnuu wrote: Solar is switching to Terran after recent performances from the race He only has to play protoss until semis tho staying on zerg should be fine | ||
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BerserkSword
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darklycid
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Mozdk
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XDEKSDEEXD
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Sif_
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And byun is probably gonna proxy the rest of the games lol | ||
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darklycid
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yoshi245
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Durnuu
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On December 02 2020 19:26 Sim999 wrote: Honestly I know its very very hard for him, but he should just quits like now, i'ts better to have wrists for the next 50 years than maybe win something in a game that is going to disappear in korea very soon... Be like Polt be smart He's not developping osteoarthritis from this, he'll be fine. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
should call it quits now and cure whatever connective tissue pathology he has, and get ready for next year instead of fighting for scraps to get into 2021 iem | ||
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Oukka
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darklycid
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ShAd_1337
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one more! | ||
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Poopi
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yoshi245
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darklycid
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On December 02 2020 19:36 Poopi wrote: Can we have a muta game pls? Tired of lurkers Dark heard you | ||
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Durnuu
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Poopi
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RKC
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On December 02 2020 19:52 Poopi wrote: Kinda sad but please ByuN try to rest a bit. Medicine still can't do much for esport athletes yet? the human body is the worst enemy for repetitive stress injuries. it's the human body's own response that causes the most damage. therefore the only real cure is rest + auxiliary anti-inflammation methods. | ||
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Argonauta
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Andi_Goldberger
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zest = adept sos = dt? :D | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4948 Posts
On December 02 2020 20:03 Andi_Goldberger wrote: byun = reaper zest = adept sos = dt? :D you are goddamm rigth | ||
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Zambrah
United States7298 Posts
I've never been a particular fan of Zest, though I used to like sOs back in the day with his mad genius antics, I hope he picks it back up | ||
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darklycid
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NoS-Craig
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EzioAs
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Argonauta
Spain4948 Posts
On December 02 2020 20:08 Zambrah wrote: I feel like the roster of Protosses is so... lackluster... I've never been a particular fan of Zest, though I used to like sOs back in the day with his mad genius antics, I hope he picks it back up but Patience! | ||
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BerserkSword
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EzioAs
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watchlulu
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NoS-Craig
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RKC
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Gina
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BerserkSword
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On December 02 2020 20:10 EzioAs wrote: DTs vs Blink + fast 3rd with no detection thnx | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On December 02 2020 20:11 NoS-Craig wrote: DTs happened and Zest had no detection. thnx | ||
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EzioAs
235 Posts
On December 02 2020 20:11 RKC wrote: I didn't get to watch the earlier Byun-Dark games. But seems like Dark went heavy on roach/lurker rather than muta-bling? Is this some new meta? Or is Dark also having wrist issues? I think it's more Dark playstyle. His ZvT or ZvP is always slightly different compared to the other Zergs. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7298 Posts
Thats one of those names I will never remember unless its specifically brought up, lol, just like Hurricane unfortunately. | ||
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watchlulu
Germany474 Posts
Thanks for the answers though | ||
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RKC
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On December 02 2020 20:12 EzioAs wrote: I think it's more Dark playstyle. His ZvT or ZvP is always slightly different compared to the other Zergs. But I remember Dark being an absolute muta-bling beast with crazy micro to counter Terran MMM deathballs. | ||
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darklycid
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watchlulu
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EzioAs
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Mozdk
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On December 02 2020 20:18 darklycid wrote: this is amazingly stupid. The 8 min dt rush | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4948 Posts
On December 02 2020 20:15 RKC wrote: But I remember Dark being an absolute muta-bling beast with crazy micro to counter Terran MMM deathballs. You remember wrong? Dark was always a corruptor ling guy | ||
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RKC
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On December 02 2020 20:18 Argonauta wrote: You remember wrong? Dark was always a corruptor ling guy Yeah, that too. Dark really made corruptors worked. But my point being that Dark had a high APM playstyle with cool drops and counterattacks. Going roaches against Terran just seems... not Dark. | ||
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Domine3
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On December 02 2020 20:21 RKC wrote: Yeah, that too. Dark really made corruptors worked. But my point being that Dark had a high APM playstyle with cool drops and counterattacks. Going roaches against Terran just seems... not Dark. Dark himself has been dealing with injuries this year, probably explains why he hasn't really done his usual shit and just tried to play very simple macro. | ||
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yoshi245
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RKC
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Domine3
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
dude is such a boss | ||
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Zambrah
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Vindicare605
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Domine3
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On December 02 2020 20:57 Vindicare605 wrote: I know Zest is a multiple champion, but when he blows a series he sure does it in spectacular fashion. He looks so great when he wins and genuinely just looks terrible when he loses. More so than any other pro I pay attention to frequently. Zest is the definition of a coin flip player, you're either getting a world beater or he just looks like a random player off of the ladder. | ||
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darklycid
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On December 02 2020 21:05 Domine3 wrote: Zest is the definition of a coin flip player, you're either getting a world beater or he just looks like a random player off of the ladder. Not like sOs is much different. | ||
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United Kingdom2215 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On December 02 2020 21:12 Edpayasugo wrote: Is that guy in the advert Dream? looks like a hybrid of soo and dream | ||
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Domine3
13 Posts
True, but with sOs it makes sense given his play style and all the wacky build he pulls out, tonight he easily could have gone 0-3 but it worked out, with Zest he just fucking sucked hard. | ||
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EzioAs
235 Posts
On December 02 2020 21:12 Edpayasugo wrote: Is that guy in the advert Dream? I was wondering about that myself. He looks like Dream doesn't he? | ||
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Durnuu
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Durnuu
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darklycid
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Durnuu
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Argonauta
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darklycid
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BerserkSword
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On December 02 2020 22:08 darklycid wrote: Where the hell are solars units. even trap looks confused about that LOL | ||
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Argonauta
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On December 02 2020 22:08 Argonauta wrote: glad i did my liquibets before the ASUS ROG Easy 4/4 | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6929 Posts
How dafuq did you guys know that $o$ would show up today?  | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On December 02 2020 22:38 Harris1st wrote: How dafuq did you guys know that $o$ would show up today? They just know better than to have expectations of Zest. | ||
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On December 02 2020 22:38 Harris1st wrote: How dafuq did you guys know that $o$ would show up today? It's not that, I knew Zest wouldn't show up! | ||
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LennX
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Liquibet 0/4 today thanks to $o$ showing up... | ||
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Domine3
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On December 03 2020 02:14 LennX wrote: If I was ByuN, I would have just floated all my buildings and delayed a game that I was losing just to buy more time to rest Liquibet 0/4 today thanks to $o$ showing up... I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure there are rules in place that stop a player from floating their buildings. | ||
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geokilla
Canada8240 Posts
Edit: How does ByuN have wrist issues when he was gone to the military for so long? Did he not do wrist stretches and exercises during that time? | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On December 03 2020 03:50 Domine3 wrote: I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure there are rules in place that stop a player from floating their buildings. If that were true, why did everyone bag on Maru when he didn't float buildings vs. Scarlett? | ||
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JJH777
United States4407 Posts
On December 03 2020 10:31 mierin wrote: If that were true, why did everyone bag on Maru when he didn't float buildings vs. Scarlett? I think there's a difference between floating buildings for a draw and floating builds for a break. | ||
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LennX
4553 Posts
On December 03 2020 03:50 Domine3 wrote: I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure there are rules in place that stop a player from floating their buildings. FanTaSy gg timings comes into mind There are currently no rules to that since the main condition of victory is destroying all of your opponents buildings. Is it BM? Most likely in the Korean context | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On December 03 2020 11:33 LennX wrote: FanTaSy gg timings comes into mind There are currently no rules to that since the main condition of victory is destroying all of your opponents buildings. Is it BM? Most likely in the Korean context If a player did something as blatant as floating all their buildings to the corner in positions where they know they are completely lost (as opposed to floating buildings for a draw, or playing on in lost positions where they could credibly argue that they thought they had a chance) the tournament organizer would give the player warnings for unsportsmanlike behaviour. On December 03 2020 05:28 geokilla wrote: Well Hurricane really botched that game 4.... He should've macro up and defended. What was he doing? Edit: How does ByuN have wrist issues when he was gone to the military for so long? Did he not do wrist stretches and exercises during that time? ByuN was still able to play when he was in the military as a result of his particular role--he just wasn't allowed to compete for money. This means that unlike most players he can keep his Starcraft skills from rusting, but also means that his wrist might not have gotten much of a break. | ||
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Poopi
France12880 Posts
The impressive thing though, is that he seems better after this break than before, judging by his Asus rog run. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On December 03 2020 12:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote: If a player did something as blatant as floating all their buildings to the corner in positions where they know they are completely lost (as opposed to floating buildings for a draw, or playing on in lost positions where they could credibly argue that they thought they had a chance) the tournament organizer would give the player warnings for unsportsmanlike behaviour. ByuN was still able to play when he was in the military as a result of his particular role--he just wasn't allowed to compete for money. This means that unlike most players he can keep his Starcraft skills from rusting, but also means that his wrist might not have gotten much of a break. Some people are more fragile, maybe he's one of them. FC Arsenal fans may remember Tomas Rosicky, a great player who was, sadly, mostly injured(I dare to say he spent more time injured than on the playing field, especially in the 2nd half of his career). His brother resigned at 29 for too many injuries. Interestingly their father played until 37 (but that could have been a different story under more relevant training regime). | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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CicadaSC
United States1711 Posts
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
On December 05 2020 17:18 CicadaSC wrote: I'm really liking Gemini's commentary! Agreed! He has excellent PvX related game knowledge but doesn't get too technical. Definitely has some chemistry with Artosis too | ||
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Beta2k
Austria218 Posts
On December 05 2020 16:58 LennX wrote: I assume we will be using this for Day 2 too? not here? seems to be a separate thread: https://tl.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/566399-gsl-2020-super-tournament-2-day-2 | ||
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