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NaKajin1
Profile Joined September 2020
8 Posts
September 20 2020 19:34 GMT
#1941
On September 21 2020 04:33 swarminfestor wrote:
Trap is a new "kong" ? Two-times gsl code s finalists in row, and two-times DH Masters finalists in row too.


He's now on 7 silver in a row, pretty sure that's the longest streak of second place.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 20 2020 19:34 GMT
#1942
On September 21 2020 04:32 Penev wrote:
what is the least OP unit for Zerg?

Egg?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Solio
Profile Joined June 2016
France145 Posts
September 20 2020 19:34 GMT
#1943
Trap is really unlucky to be the best protoss in this state of balance
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
September 20 2020 19:34 GMT
#1944
On September 21 2020 04:32 NaKajin1 wrote:
Fun fact, the last active Protoss to win a tournament will now be Zest in 2017


Stats?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
September 20 2020 19:34 GMT
#1945
On September 21 2020 04:33 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2020 04:32 Penev wrote:
what is the least OP unit for Zerg?

I wanted to say Overlord, but nah, definitely OP.

yeah it's a tough question
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
September 20 2020 19:34 GMT
#1946
On September 21 2020 04:31 geokilla wrote:
Serious question. Why aren't Queens used more in ZvP? They're so good in ZvT. They deflect every early harass and having creep spread is so important.

Because they are bad vs most protoss units (except oracles/voidray/WP ok vs phoenix, on the ground they are destroyed by everything, except adepts). So they are just a reaction vs Stargate.
NaKajin1
Profile Joined September 2020
8 Posts
September 20 2020 19:35 GMT
#1947
On September 21 2020 04:34 Z3nith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2020 04:32 NaKajin1 wrote:
Fun fact, the last active Protoss to win a tournament will now be Zest in 2017


Stats?


Didn't he just retired?
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-20 19:35:47
September 20 2020 19:35 GMT
#1948
every time i think the last time protoss won a gsl/blizzcon/iem wc was early 2017 i feel like it's too late to save protoss.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
September 20 2020 19:36 GMT
#1949
It was a good finals, considering
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Calliope
Profile Joined July 2018
297 Posts
September 20 2020 19:37 GMT
#1950
On September 21 2020 04:35 Anc13nt wrote:
every time i think the last time protoss won a gsl/blizzcon/iem wc was early 2017 i feel like it's too late to save protoss.


Zerg is 71% victories the past 3 years, I think the balance team has abandoned the game. But we can do our part, take context into account and talk about the best players of the respective races, instead of just counting raw tournament results (like feardragon).
Clément 화이팅
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
September 20 2020 19:38 GMT
#1951
At least they do a proper wrap up of the tournament.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
NaKajin1
Profile Joined September 2020
8 Posts
September 20 2020 19:38 GMT
#1952
On September 21 2020 04:36 Penev wrote:
It was a good finals, considering

Whining excluded, it was a pretty great final.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-20 19:39:26
September 20 2020 19:39 GMT
#1953
On September 21 2020 04:37 Calliope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2020 04:35 Anc13nt wrote:
every time i think the last time protoss won a gsl/blizzcon/iem wc was early 2017 i feel like it's too late to save protoss.


Zerg is 71% victories the past 3 years, I think the balance team has abandoned the game. But we can do our part, take context into account and talk about the best players of the respective races, instead of just counting raw tournament results (like feardragon).


We're still on board ignoring the fact that almost exclusively Reynor and Serral won any tournaments in the past 3 years, are we?
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
September 20 2020 19:39 GMT
#1954
On September 21 2020 04:26 yhellothere12 wrote:
Can we get an update on the Protoss/Zerg/Terran premier tournament wins over the last 2-3 years?

Since 2018.

28 Z wins [Serral - 12, Reynor - 5, Rogue - 4, Dark - 3, Scarlett - 2, soO - 2]
9 T wins [Maru - 6, Inno - 2, TY - 1]
6 P wins [Stats - 2, Classic - 2, Neeb - 2]

"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
September 20 2020 19:39 GMT
#1955
I feel like balancing the game for tournament wins is relaly hard because starcraft is a different game for different skill levels. We will never see a state without balance whines
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
September 20 2020 19:40 GMT
#1956
zergs still more talented, gz reynor
~~~~~
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2663 Posts
September 20 2020 19:40 GMT
#1957
On September 21 2020 04:39 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2020 04:37 Calliope wrote:
On September 21 2020 04:35 Anc13nt wrote:
every time i think the last time protoss won a gsl/blizzcon/iem wc was early 2017 i feel like it's too late to save protoss.


Zerg is 71% victories the past 3 years, I think the balance team has abandoned the game. But we can do our part, take context into account and talk about the best players of the respective races, instead of just counting raw tournament results (like feardragon).


We're still on board ignoring the fact that almost exclusively Reynor and Serral won any tournaments in the past 3 years?


Rogue, Dark, soO and Scarlett play an unidentified 4th race apparently.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
September 20 2020 19:40 GMT
#1958
On September 21 2020 04:39 Isualin wrote:
I feel like balancing the game for tournament wins is relaly hard because starcraft is a different game for different skill levels. We will never see a state without balance whines

it would be nice to be able to whine about another race though
I Protoss winner, could it be?
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
September 20 2020 19:41 GMT
#1959
On September 21 2020 04:39 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2020 04:37 Calliope wrote:
On September 21 2020 04:35 Anc13nt wrote:
every time i think the last time protoss won a gsl/blizzcon/iem wc was early 2017 i feel like it's too late to save protoss.


Zerg is 71% victories the past 3 years, I think the balance team has abandoned the game. But we can do our part, take context into account and talk about the best players of the respective races, instead of just counting raw tournament results (like feardragon).


We're still on board ignoring the fact that almost exclusively Reynor and Serral won any tournaments in the past 3 years, are we?

Take them out and Z is still the winning-est race.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2958 Posts
September 20 2020 19:41 GMT
#1960
On September 21 2020 04:40 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2020 04:39 Swisslink wrote:
On September 21 2020 04:37 Calliope wrote:
On September 21 2020 04:35 Anc13nt wrote:
every time i think the last time protoss won a gsl/blizzcon/iem wc was early 2017 i feel like it's too late to save protoss.


Zerg is 71% victories the past 3 years, I think the balance team has abandoned the game. But we can do our part, take context into account and talk about the best players of the respective races, instead of just counting raw tournament results (like feardragon).


We're still on board ignoring the fact that almost exclusively Reynor and Serral won any tournaments in the past 3 years?


Rogue, Dark, soO and Scarlett play an unidentified 4th race apparently.


Not really the point. The statistics are just hugely distorted by the 17 tournament victories Serral and Reynor have collected. Ignoring that fact is just absurd, sorry.
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