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Calliope
Profile Joined July 2018
297 Posts
September 20 2020 15:53 GMT
#1301
This is much better. Late game just does not look winnable for Clem, he should strive to end it earlier. A siege unit that can instantly deploy and makes the opponent bleed minerals (he even ran out of scans several times). He cannot react in time because siege tanks, ghosts and liberators deploy so slowly.
Clément 화이팅
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33527 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-20 15:54:49
September 20 2020 15:54 GMT
#1302
Reynor not pre-running Drones from an obviously dead base is such an uncharacteristic mistake D:

If he had saved them he might have some borderline chance of turning this around.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
September 20 2020 15:55 GMT
#1303
On September 21 2020 00:52 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2020 00:50 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On September 21 2020 00:44 Lexender wrote:
On September 21 2020 00:43 heqat wrote:
On September 21 2020 00:40 Weavel wrote:
On September 21 2020 00:37 AzAlexZ wrote:
anyone else frustrated that Clem payed the entire game better than Reynor but one bad fight and he is screwed?
like Reynor took maybe like 5 bad fight in the firs 5 mins but still okay?
As a terran I know your pain.


Well, they both played incredibly well. But Clem failled to do any early game damage, which put him a bit behind...


The fact that we have accepted that as the standard is such a bad sign tho

That was a standard from Brood War days unless Terran played Mech, then it was the other way around.

not true 2013 and 2014 parade pushes from Terran could do wonders against Zerg even from behind and it was way more rewarding for Terrans who kept the zerg on their toes

And that was always the case as well, you either do damage early, or do an all-in/timing. If you don't do enough and let him drone to 80-90, you are hardly going to win later.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2655 Posts
September 20 2020 15:55 GMT
#1304
If Clem doesn't wins here and now he is dead
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12907 Posts
September 20 2020 15:56 GMT
#1305
Clem is almost as good as Maru in TvZ, so impressive
WriterMaru
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16118 Posts
September 20 2020 15:56 GMT
#1306
Reynor is dead. Well played by Clem.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
September 20 2020 15:57 GMT
#1307
Beautiful
I Protoss winner, could it be?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 20 2020 15:57 GMT
#1308
Reynor taking lessons from Serral dying to hellbat pushes.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 20 2020 15:57 GMT
#1309
WHAT A SERIES ALLREADY
MaxPax
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12907 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-21 18:13:35
September 20 2020 15:58 GMT
#1310
Good thing about this tournament is that blizzard will probably fix lurkers.
WriterMaru
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
September 20 2020 15:58 GMT
#1311
Wow, these two guys are putting up an incredible series - truly the world's top players
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 20 2020 15:58 GMT
#1312
On September 21 2020 00:52 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2020 00:50 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On September 21 2020 00:44 Lexender wrote:
On September 21 2020 00:43 heqat wrote:
On September 21 2020 00:40 Weavel wrote:
On September 21 2020 00:37 AzAlexZ wrote:
anyone else frustrated that Clem payed the entire game better than Reynor but one bad fight and he is screwed?
like Reynor took maybe like 5 bad fight in the firs 5 mins but still okay?
As a terran I know your pain.


Well, they both played incredibly well. But Clem failled to do any early game damage, which put him a bit behind...


The fact that we have accepted that as the standard is such a bad sign tho

That was a standard from Brood War days unless Terran played Mech, then it was the other way around.

not true 2013 and 2014 parade pushes from Terran could do wonders against Zerg even from behind and it was way more rewarding for Terrans who kept the zerg on their toes

2013-2014 parade pushes were even economy trades (66 scvs+mule against ~70-75 drones), just in case you forgot.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
September 20 2020 15:58 GMT
#1313
On September 21 2020 00:57 lolfail9001 wrote:
Reynor taking lessons from Serral dying to hellbat pushes.

top zergs stealing my strats
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
September 20 2020 15:58 GMT
#1314
Yeah, ling-bane-muta vs Clem needs some tweaks.

I don't know that we have a zerg with enough speed to do that and win against clem successfully.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16118 Posts
September 20 2020 15:59 GMT
#1315
On September 21 2020 00:58 Bagration wrote:
Wow, these two guys are putting up an incredible series - truly the world's top players


I can hear the Serral fans grumbling in protest from here.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-20 15:59:29
September 20 2020 15:59 GMT
#1316
Mutas are definetly not viable vs an opponent like Clem
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-20 16:01:30
September 20 2020 15:59 GMT
#1317
On September 21 2020 00:55 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2020 00:52 AzAlexZ wrote:
On September 21 2020 00:50 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On September 21 2020 00:44 Lexender wrote:
On September 21 2020 00:43 heqat wrote:
On September 21 2020 00:40 Weavel wrote:
On September 21 2020 00:37 AzAlexZ wrote:
anyone else frustrated that Clem payed the entire game better than Reynor but one bad fight and he is screwed?
like Reynor took maybe like 5 bad fight in the firs 5 mins but still okay?
As a terran I know your pain.


Well, they both played incredibly well. But Clem failled to do any early game damage, which put him a bit behind...


The fact that we have accepted that as the standard is such a bad sign tho

That was a standard from Brood War days unless Terran played Mech, then it was the other way around.

not true 2013 and 2014 parade pushes from Terran could do wonders against Zerg even from behind and it was way more rewarding for Terrans who kept the zerg on their toes

And that was always the case as well, you either do damage early, or do an all-in/timing. If you don't do enough and let him drone to 80-90, you are hardly going to win later.

not what I wrote though, read what I just said, I said if terran gets behind then they can still do wonders against zerg because parade push and rewarding good play. watch Polt/Bomber vs Jaedong and see how Polt rolls over Jaedong by doing similar things to what Clem did (taking good fights), look at the result of the fights
Faker is the GOAT!
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
September 20 2020 15:59 GMT
#1318
Wow not gonna lie, Clem went through an amazing transformation! Who'd have thought that this little guy will be europes best terran...
miniskirt
Profile Joined December 2012
France487 Posts
September 20 2020 15:59 GMT
#1319
On September 21 2020 00:58 Poopi wrote:
Good thing about this tournament is that blizzard will probably fix lurkers


Don't overestimate blizzard.
Self-proclaimed best Feast and Grubby fan | also MVP MMA Fantasy Polt forGG Dayshi the french hope| Leenock, the sober version of stephano and Scarlett cutiepie <3
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 20 2020 15:59 GMT
#1320
On September 21 2020 00:58 AttackZerg wrote:
Yeah, ling-bane-muta vs Clem needs some tweaks.

I don't know that we have a zerg with enough speed to do that and win against clem successfully.

Serral's 2 games won vs Clem were LBM ones, just saying.

Serral died on attempt to rush to muta in last 2 games, not on LBM stage.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
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