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[GSL 2020] Code S - Quarterfinals - Day 2

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Pandemona *
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Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
July 31 2020 23:03 GMT
#1

GSL Code S


Saturday, Aug 01 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)Global StarCraft II League/2020/Season 2

Streams & Casters


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Artosis - Tasteless

Format

  • Playoffs:

  • Single-elimination bracket.
  • Quarterfinals are Bo5.
  • Semifinals are Bo7.
  • All 4 players who make it to this round are seeded in next season's Code S.
  • Finals are Bo7.

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Quarterfinals


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(T)TY vs (P)PartinG
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(P)Trap vs (P)Stats

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Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
July 31 2020 23:04 GMT
#2
Poll: TY vs PartinG?

PartinG Wins (15)
 
52%

TY Wins (14)
 
48%

29 total votes

Your vote: TY vs PartinG?

(Vote): TY Wins
(Vote): PartinG Wins


Poll: Trap vs Stats

Stats Wins (18)
 
75%

Trap Wins (6)
 
25%

24 total votes

Your vote: Trap vs Stats

(Vote): Trap Wins
(Vote): Stats Wins

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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25152 Posts
August 01 2020 00:44 GMT
#3
Parting is streaming right now apparently? Out of the house and low on mobile data, how’s his form looking?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
mikedupp
Profile Joined May 2020
233 Posts
August 01 2020 00:47 GMT
#4
On August 01 2020 09:44 Wombat_NI wrote:
Parting is streaming right now apparently? Out of the house and low on mobile data, how’s his form looking?

Hes just giving a speech and yelling. Havent seen any games yet.

He said he put too much pressure on himself last time vs TY.
Today he said he will play like its ladder and enjoy himself.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25152 Posts
August 01 2020 00:53 GMT
#5
On August 01 2020 09:47 mikedupp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 09:44 Wombat_NI wrote:
Parting is streaming right now apparently? Out of the house and low on mobile data, how’s his form looking?

Hes just giving a speech and yelling. Havent seen any games yet.

He said he put too much pressure on himself last time vs TY.
Today he said he will play like its ladder and enjoy himself.

Parting? Yelling on stream?! Not sure if I can believe this.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
August 01 2020 02:23 GMT
#6
TY and Stats winning would be ideal.

ZvZ/PvP semies and PvZ finals just kinda kills off my interest. What will likely happen is Rogue cheesing DRG, Trap fending off Parting's tricky plays, and Trap the new Kong collapsing to Rogue in the finals.

I doubt TY has what it takes to go all the way, but TY being in the semies or finals would make for more exciting matches. And Stats has better nerves to withstand the Rogue train.
gg no re thx
slant
Profile Joined February 2020
Romania95 Posts
August 01 2020 02:28 GMT
#7
Rewatching a couple of the PartinG clips posted on the recent preview made me sad. I'm hoping he takes this one. As for the PvP, I'm not usually a fan but this seems like an amazing match.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 03:33 GMT
#8
Stats Parting gogo
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 03:33 GMT
#9
On August 01 2020 11:23 RKC wrote:
TY and Stats winning would be ideal.

ZvZ/PvP semies and PvZ finals just kinda kills off my interest. What will likely happen is Rogue cheesing DRG, Trap fending off Parting's tricky plays, and Trap the new Kong collapsing to Rogue in the finals.

I doubt TY has what it takes to go all the way, but TY being in the semies or finals would make for more exciting matches. And Stats has better nerves to withstand the Rogue train.

hilarious of you to assume DRG v Stats wont be the greatest Macro finals of all time
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 01 2020 03:44 GMT
#10
On August 01 2020 12:33 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 11:23 RKC wrote:
TY and Stats winning would be ideal.

ZvZ/PvP semies and PvZ finals just kinda kills off my interest. What will likely happen is Rogue cheesing DRG, Trap fending off Parting's tricky plays, and Trap the new Kong collapsing to Rogue in the finals.

I doubt TY has what it takes to go all the way, but TY being in the semies or finals would make for more exciting matches. And Stats has better nerves to withstand the Rogue train.

hilarious of you to assume DRG v Stats wont be the greatest Macro finals of all time

Rogue ain't losing a bo7 is the problem.

Although it would be damn awesome if Stats could make the finals and somehow overcome whatever bullshit Rogue throws at him.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States831 Posts
August 01 2020 03:57 GMT
#11
TY 3-1 Parting
Stats 3-2 Trap

You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-01 04:08:07
August 01 2020 04:04 GMT
#12
On August 01 2020 12:44 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 12:33 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 01 2020 11:23 RKC wrote:
TY and Stats winning would be ideal.

ZvZ/PvP semies and PvZ finals just kinda kills off my interest. What will likely happen is Rogue cheesing DRG, Trap fending off Parting's tricky plays, and Trap the new Kong collapsing to Rogue in the finals.

I doubt TY has what it takes to go all the way, but TY being in the semies or finals would make for more exciting matches. And Stats has better nerves to withstand the Rogue train.

hilarious of you to assume DRG v Stats wont be the greatest Macro finals of all time

Rogue ain't losing a bo7 is the problem.

Although it would be damn awesome if Stats could make the finals and somehow overcome whatever bullshit Rogue throws at him.


I'm just assuming Rogue has activated beast mode, and finally awakened out of clown fiesta slump mode.

How good is DRG's ZvZ anyway? A genuine question. Since I've not seen much of DRG in major tourneys like TSL or Dreamhack.

Edit: Just checked Liquipedia. DRG hasn't played a single ZvZ in this Season 2 of GSL In Season 1, he lost to Impact in RO24.
gg no re thx
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 01 2020 04:13 GMT
#13
I think it's safe to say DRGs weakest matchup is probably ZvZ. I think it's also one that's rough against a guy like Rogue who knows all the ins and outs of it while DRG hasn't been around much at all in LotV.

Plus the fact it's a bo7 and it's Rogue, I really don't see DRG taking more than 1 map.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-01 04:14:37
August 01 2020 04:14 GMT
#14
Is this gonna be BC build that SpeCial used ?

edit: nvm he starts a CC
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 04:16 GMT
#15
god this is the coolest game i have ever seen
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
August 01 2020 04:17 GMT
#16
Very good build choice by Parting.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
August 01 2020 04:18 GMT
#17
Invisible Man Rush
Year of MaxPax
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 01 2020 04:18 GMT
#18
TY just had to get an ebay + turret up. No amount of scans ever win there when PartinG has a prism
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8230 Posts
August 01 2020 04:19 GMT
#19
TY not building engineering bays is very questionable
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-01 04:20:15
August 01 2020 04:19 GMT
#20
Very interesting match-up of builds. It's such a rare situation that it's hard to figure out if there was anything TY could have changed up or if it's just a build order loss when both players play it out properly. Getting an ebay certainly, but it's hard to say where and when.
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
August 01 2020 04:20 GMT
#21
Golden Wall reminds me of the old OSL maps that existed to be as weird as possible and push the bounds of possible strategy. I love it.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 01 2020 04:21 GMT
#22
On August 01 2020 13:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Very interesting match-up of builds. It's such a rare situation that it's hard to figure out if there was anything TY could have changed up or if it's just a build order loss when both players play it out properly.

If he made an ebay literally anywhere on the map with all the SCVs he got out then he can build a turret and wins.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 01 2020 04:24 GMT
#23
On August 01 2020 13:21 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 13:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Very interesting match-up of builds. It's such a rare situation that it's hard to figure out if there was anything TY could have changed up or if it's just a build order loss when both players play it out properly.

If he made an ebay literally anywhere on the map with all the SCVs he got out then he can build a turret and wins.


Does he though? One stalker denies that gold base. Certainly it's a game if has the ebay, but I don't think he wins easily.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
August 01 2020 04:24 GMT
#24
On August 01 2020 13:19 geokilla wrote:
TY not building engineering bays is very questionable

He instantly corrected that mistake on game 2.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 04:24 GMT
#25
im already exhausted watching how crazy this series is, and we haven't even begun game 3
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Domine3
Profile Joined July 2020
13 Posts
August 01 2020 04:25 GMT
#26
Parting please win, only game 3 and my heart already can't take it
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 01 2020 04:26 GMT
#27
On August 01 2020 13:24 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 13:21 Fango wrote:
On August 01 2020 13:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Very interesting match-up of builds. It's such a rare situation that it's hard to figure out if there was anything TY could have changed up or if it's just a build order loss when both players play it out properly.

If he made an ebay literally anywhere on the map with all the SCVs he got out then he can build a turret and wins.


Does he though? One stalker denies that gold base. Certainly it's a game if has the ebay, but I don't think he wins easily.

I don't think one stalker can deny an economy when TY has marines, a medivac, and a viking out. 2CCs plus 1/1/1 against a one base protoss, if he ever actually establishes a base there's not much PartinG can really do.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
mCon.Hephaistas
Profile Joined May 2014
Netherlands891 Posts
August 01 2020 04:31 GMT
#28
This game is so bad by Parting
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
August 01 2020 04:32 GMT
#29
Short death animation for parting. TvP is supposed to be good but this is just hellions killing parting before he can get anything going
Year of MaxPax
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 01 2020 04:33 GMT
#30
This series is basically 4D rock paper scissors. The actual gameplay is secondary to all the mind-gamey decisions.
Russano
Profile Joined November 2010
United States425 Posts
August 01 2020 04:33 GMT
#31
This is such a clown fiesta in the best way possible.
BabyMozart
Profile Joined January 2013
54 Posts
August 01 2020 04:34 GMT
#32
this is so freakin glorious
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 01 2020 04:34 GMT
#33
Just started watching, any TvP mech thus far?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 01 2020 04:34 GMT
#34
TY saying the counter to PartinG is hellions
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
August 01 2020 04:34 GMT
#35
On August 01 2020 13:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
This series is basically 4D rock paper scissors. The actual gameplay is secondary to all the mind-gamey decisions.

This is exactly what makes GSL the best sc2 tournament, the preparation time makes for next-level mind games.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 04:34 GMT
#36
this series is so much wilder than I had anticipated
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
August 01 2020 04:34 GMT
#37
On August 01 2020 13:34 Bagration wrote:
Just started watching, any TvP mech thus far?


TY is just using the strength of 1 base terran quite well so far, so we haven't got close to mech at all
Year of MaxPax
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
August 01 2020 04:34 GMT
#38
On August 01 2020 13:34 Bagration wrote:
Just started watching, any TvP mech thus far?


Nope. All cheese every game from both sides.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 04:35 GMT
#39
On August 01 2020 13:34 Bagration wrote:
Just started watching, any TvP mech thus far?

implying that either player has made a 2nd base, funny
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
August 01 2020 04:35 GMT
#40
On August 01 2020 13:34 Fango wrote:
TY saying the counter to PartinG is hellions


You'd think that over 9 games, PartinG would've noticed
Year of MaxPax
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
August 01 2020 04:35 GMT
#41
Damn.

just shake that one off Parting. Make it 2-2
XK ßubonic
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 01 2020 04:36 GMT
#42
I really hope PartinG isn't tilted and we get a macro game out of these two
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 01 2020 04:37 GMT
#43
On August 01 2020 13:34 yht9657 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 13:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
This series is basically 4D rock paper scissors. The actual gameplay is secondary to all the mind-gamey decisions.

This is exactly what makes GSL the best sc2 tournament, the preparation time makes for next-level mind games.


Yeah... if this series was representative of what preparation is about I'd rather have a weekender.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 01 2020 04:37 GMT
#44
On August 01 2020 13:37 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 13:34 yht9657 wrote:
On August 01 2020 13:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
This series is basically 4D rock paper scissors. The actual gameplay is secondary to all the mind-gamey decisions.

This is exactly what makes GSL the best sc2 tournament, the preparation time makes for next-level mind games.


Yeah... if this series was representative of what preparation is about I'd rather have a weekender.

Are you implying that a series between these two in a weekender wouldn't look the same?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
August 01 2020 04:38 GMT
#45
I love both of these guys hard to root for one against the other. If not for this is be zonkedout
XK ßubonic
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 01 2020 04:40 GMT
#46
On August 01 2020 13:37 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 13:37 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 01 2020 13:34 yht9657 wrote:
On August 01 2020 13:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
This series is basically 4D rock paper scissors. The actual gameplay is secondary to all the mind-gamey decisions.

This is exactly what makes GSL the best sc2 tournament, the preparation time makes for next-level mind games.


Yeah... if this series was representative of what preparation is about I'd rather have a weekender.

Are you implying that a series between these two in a weekender wouldn't look the same?


In the absence of prep. PartinG would probably open four gate blink every game, and then lose to the same hellion drop. So yeah the end result would be pretty similar.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 01 2020 04:40 GMT
#47
Would you look at that TY's going for a hellion drop, never saw that coming
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
August 01 2020 04:41 GMT
#48
i cannot believe TY has done 4 hellion drops in a row. fantastic
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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
August 01 2020 04:41 GMT
#49
This is one of the two worst series I've seen in recent memory. The other one being TY vs PartinG
Year of MaxPax
Lothcomic
Profile Joined May 2020
21 Posts
August 01 2020 04:45 GMT
#50
TY uses the "All Army" key? I didn't think pros did that.
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
August 01 2020 04:46 GMT
#51
On August 01 2020 13:45 Lothcomic wrote:
TY uses the "All Army" key? I didn't think pros did that.

It's a command that's pretty useful situationally, but not that situation lol
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 01 2020 04:47 GMT
#52
On August 01 2020 13:45 Lothcomic wrote:
TY uses the "All Army" key? I didn't think pros did that.

Literally all pros use it, although some more than others
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
August 01 2020 04:48 GMT
#53
Parting just looks completely outclassed, to be honest. TY is so good.
Trans Rights
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 01 2020 04:49 GMT
#54
On August 01 2020 13:45 Lothcomic wrote:
TY uses the "All Army" key? I didn't think pros did that.


Additionally the liberator might well be part of some other control group, so even if you don't use F2 it's still useful to siege it.
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
August 01 2020 04:50 GMT
#55
TY critically sniped the warp prism with a templar in it before the fight, which I think Tastosis missed. Huge play.
Trans Rights
Domine3
Profile Joined July 2020
13 Posts
August 01 2020 04:51 GMT
#56
On August 01 2020 13:48 Psychonian wrote:
Parting just looks completely outclassed, to be honest. TY is so good.



Every player has that one opponent that has their number, and that opponent is TY for Parting
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
August 01 2020 04:51 GMT
#57
TY showing why Parting didn't want to play a macro game with him. Looked like a totally different class of player in a straight up game.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
August 01 2020 04:52 GMT
#58
Alright, come on Parting, you're not Fantasy.
Trans Rights
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 01 2020 04:52 GMT
#59
PartinG looks either tilted or just not in good shape. Losing 7 workers to a liberator and then 13 to an 8 marine drop is just too much
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
mCon.Hephaistas
Profile Joined May 2014
Netherlands891 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-01 04:53:24
August 01 2020 04:53 GMT
#60
Hits 3 units for half a second with storm

'another pretty good psystorm there'


I wonder what a bad storm looks like
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
August 01 2020 04:53 GMT
#61
On August 01 2020 13:52 Fango wrote:
PartinG looks either tilted or just not in good shape. Losing 7 workers to a liberator and then 13 to an 8 marine drop is just too much


Marines weren't even dropped. They just walked into the nat from the side.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 01 2020 04:53 GMT
#62
On August 01 2020 13:51 Vindicare605 wrote:
TY showing why Parting didn't want to play a macro game with him. Looked like a totally different class of player in a straight up game.

Hey it was PartinG who tried to play macro first in this series.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
August 01 2020 04:53 GMT
#63
wtf parting.....
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
August 01 2020 04:53 GMT
#64
On August 01 2020 13:53 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 13:51 Vindicare605 wrote:
TY showing why Parting didn't want to play a macro game with him. Looked like a totally different class of player in a straight up game.

Hey it was PartinG who tried to play macro first in this series.


Yea a proxy DT drop on Golden Wall, total macro game.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 01 2020 04:54 GMT
#65
On August 01 2020 13:53 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 13:53 Fango wrote:
On August 01 2020 13:51 Vindicare605 wrote:
TY showing why Parting didn't want to play a macro game with him. Looked like a totally different class of player in a straight up game.

Hey it was PartinG who tried to play macro first in this series.


Yea a proxy DT drop on Golden Wall, total macro game.

TY went 111 before CC in that game. First time either of them went for a macro opener was PartinG in game 3.
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yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
August 01 2020 04:55 GMT
#66
PartinG is just shellshocked by the fact that he got owned by some caster 2 gsls in a row.
fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France901 Posts
August 01 2020 04:55 GMT
#67
On August 01 2020 13:52 Fango wrote:
PartinG looks either tilted or just not in good shape. Losing 7 workers to a liberator and then 13 to an 8 marine drop is just too much


TY is the worst matchup for PartinG. Pure mechanics vs pure intellect. TY's build selection, army movement, composition, everything was perfect, PartinG stood absolutely no chance in a macro game.

I hope we get to see TY vs Stats because they're much more similar in style with a late game focus, but TY vs Trap could be very good as well.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17671 Posts
August 01 2020 04:57 GMT
#68
damn, really wanted Parting to win
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Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
August 01 2020 04:57 GMT
#69
Parting looks fucking distraught, dude. I feel awful for him.
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BabyMozart
Profile Joined January 2013
54 Posts
August 01 2020 04:57 GMT
#70
TY is our terran god an savior!!!!!!
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 01 2020 04:58 GMT
#71
PartinG looks mentally broken - even Fantasy would've found that GG late
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
August 01 2020 04:58 GMT
#72
Very dissapointing series.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 01 2020 04:58 GMT
#73
On August 01 2020 13:55 fastr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 13:52 Fango wrote:
PartinG looks either tilted or just not in good shape. Losing 7 workers to a liberator and then 13 to an 8 marine drop is just too much


TY is the worst matchup for PartinG. Pure mechanics vs pure intellect. TY's build selection, army movement, composition, everything was perfect, PartinG stood absolutely no chance in a macro game.

After seeing some of PartinGs TvP recently he absolutely can beat TY in a lategame, in all of these games he just loses too much before getting there.

Remember TY opened with a hellion drop off one base on literally every map here.
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
August 01 2020 04:59 GMT
#74
The last few minutes of that game were hard to watch. Makes me feel bad for Parting
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Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
August 01 2020 04:59 GMT
#75
On August 01 2020 13:58 Bagration wrote:
PartinG looks mentally broken - even Fantasy would've found that GG late

Yeah, it was hard to tell for sure but I'm fairly sure he was crying. Competition at the top level can be brutal, and he's only human.
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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
August 01 2020 04:59 GMT
#76
My takeaway from this is that there are few downsides to opening one base hellion drops.
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Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
August 01 2020 04:59 GMT
#77
Jeez, felt bad for the big boy. TY did everything right
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 05:00 GMT
#78
it's all up to stats and drg now
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
August 01 2020 05:01 GMT
#79
TY didn't just win a game, he won the series? I don't think the Ro8 was supposed to go like that.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 01 2020 05:02 GMT
#80
Having watched Artosis' stream, it's hilarious to see how professional and polished he is here, compared to the maximum salt he exhibits when playing BW (especially Protoss)

Truly night and day difference
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 05:02 GMT
#81
On August 01 2020 14:01 Elentos wrote:
TY didn't just win a game, he won the series? I don't think the Ro8 was supposed to go like that.

u do realize he win gsl now right? 4-2 stats 4-1 rogue
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
August 01 2020 05:02 GMT
#82
Only caught the last game. First 3 games were bad?
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 01 2020 05:02 GMT
#83
On August 01 2020 13:59 sudete wrote:
My takeaway from this is that there are few downsides to opening one base hellion drops.


Tbh it's been kinda a mediocre build recently. Like most of the time the protoss just holds it off with only a few probes lost and you're really behind. But ofc if you get a dozen probes every game it looks quite good.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
August 01 2020 05:02 GMT
#84
Poor Parting, I can actually relate to him a bit.

It seems he prepared a lot for this series. He brought 4 very specific strats to take out TY.

Unfortunately, TY did 3 things that, simply by luck honestly, countered what parting was doing, with the hellion drop comping earlier than Parting's strats. Or the Marauder push.


TY is a great player, but I can understand Parting being in disbelief in how much he prepared and how fast things went wrong. Let's be honest, he could have won some of those games, in most other circumstances he would have.

So I completely understand that he hanged there until the end. It's a shame he lost, but he is still a great player and I wish him luck in his future games.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 05:03 GMT
#85
On August 01 2020 14:02 [Phantom] wrote:
Poor Parting, I can actually relate to him a bit.

It seems he prepared a lot for this series. He brought 4 very specific strats to take out TY.

Unfortunately, TY did 3 things that, simply by luck honestly, countered what parting was doing, with the hellion drop comping earlier than Parting's strats. Or the Marauder push.


TY is a great player, but I can understand Parting being in disbelief in how much he prepared and how fast things went wrong. Let's be honest, he could have won some of those games, in most other circumstances he would have.

So I completely understand that he hanged there until the end. It's a shame he lost, but he is still a great player and I wish him luck in his future games.

Here's to Season 3
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Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States831 Posts
August 01 2020 05:04 GMT
#86
On August 01 2020 14:01 Elentos wrote:
TY didn't just win a game, he won the series? I don't think the Ro8 was supposed to go like that.

It was an easy call. Have to give Parting one game due to his unorthodox play, but TY is just far too solid.
On August 01 2020 12:57 Husyelt wrote:
TY 3-1 Parting
Stats 3-2 Trap


You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
Domine3
Profile Joined July 2020
13 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-01 05:05:30
August 01 2020 05:04 GMT
#87
On August 01 2020 13:59 Psychonian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 13:58 Bagration wrote:
PartinG looks mentally broken - even Fantasy would've found that GG late

Yeah, it was hard to tell for sure but I'm fairly sure he was crying. Competition at the top level can be brutal, and he's only human.


Yea Parting has talked about it on stream before but winning a GSL is something he wants to do before he retires as a pro gamer and it means a lot to him so im sure these last two seasons(especially season 1) when he gets close to the finals only to lose it really breaks him.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
August 01 2020 05:04 GMT
#88
On August 01 2020 14:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 13:59 sudete wrote:
My takeaway from this is that there are few downsides to opening one base hellion drops.


Tbh it's been kinda a mediocre build recently. Like most of the time the protoss just holds it off with only a few probes lost and you're really behind. But ofc if you get a dozen probes every game it looks quite good.


From what I've seen recently you can kill half a dozen probes and still be ahead. A lot of it boils down to the terran's skill in macroing behind it, and saving the medivac to pair it up with marines back at home.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 05:06 GMT
#89
On August 01 2020 14:04 Husyelt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 14:01 Elentos wrote:
TY didn't just win a game, he won the series? I don't think the Ro8 was supposed to go like that.

It was an easy call. Have to give Parting one game due to his unorthodox play, but TY is just far too solid.
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 12:57 Husyelt wrote:
TY 3-1 Parting
Stats 3-2 Trap



This was TY's first truly notable performance since winning season 1, so it was a bit surprising for him to look as good as he did
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slant
Profile Joined February 2020
Romania95 Posts
August 01 2020 05:07 GMT
#90
On August 01 2020 14:02 RKC wrote:
Only caught the last game. First 3 games were bad?

Game 1 was quite bizarre to watch, the remainder were just stomps.
ZAWGURN
Profile Joined July 2018
96 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-01 05:07:28
August 01 2020 05:07 GMT
#91
God parting looks so sad. This must really suck for him.

He should really stop pulling probes to defend hellions...
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
August 01 2020 05:07 GMT
#92
On August 01 2020 14:02 [Phantom] wrote:
Poor Parting, I can actually relate to him a bit.

It seems he prepared a lot for this series. He brought 4 very specific strats to take out TY.

Unfortunately, TY did 3 things that, simply by luck honestly, countered what parting was doing, with the hellion drop comping earlier than Parting's strats. Or the Marauder push.


TY is a great player, but I can understand Parting being in disbelief in how much he prepared and how fast things went wrong. Let's be honest, he could have won some of those games, in most other circumstances he would have.

So I completely understand that he hanged there until the end. It's a shame he lost, but he is still a great player and I wish him luck in his future games.


TY may not be prepared to Parting's specific builds. But he probably knew Parting had some sharp timing builds prepared, so TY's overall strategy was to be aggressive, seize the initiative from the start, and not let Parting get into any rhythm. Going aggro against Parting is probably a risk that can go horribly wrong. But it's probably unfair to say TY got lucky?
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ZAWGURN
Profile Joined July 2018
96 Posts
August 01 2020 05:10 GMT
#93
This reminds me of the Cure vs Parting match at HSC 20, where parting died to a few hellions there too. I was really rooting for him, I know he will keep getting better though. Still a strong contender for Season 3, and Super Tournament.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-01 05:15:26
August 01 2020 05:14 GMT
#94
Afreeca torturing me with showing TY fumble the series against Maru 2 years ago
On August 01 2020 14:07 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 14:02 [Phantom] wrote:
Poor Parting, I can actually relate to him a bit.

It seems he prepared a lot for this series. He brought 4 very specific strats to take out TY.

Unfortunately, TY did 3 things that, simply by luck honestly, countered what parting was doing, with the hellion drop comping earlier than Parting's strats. Or the Marauder push.


TY is a great player, but I can understand Parting being in disbelief in how much he prepared and how fast things went wrong. Let's be honest, he could have won some of those games, in most other circumstances he would have.

So I completely understand that he hanged there until the end. It's a shame he lost, but he is still a great player and I wish him luck in his future games.


TY may not be prepared to Parting's specific builds. But he probably knew Parting had some sharp timing builds prepared, so TY's overall strategy was to be aggressive, seize the initiative from the start, and not let Parting get into any rhythm. Going aggro against Parting is probably a risk that can go horribly wrong. But it's probably unfair to say TY got lucky?

This was already his game plan in season 1. Get in PartinG's face before he got in TY's.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 01 2020 05:17 GMT
#95
On August 01 2020 14:04 Domine3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 13:59 Psychonian wrote:
On August 01 2020 13:58 Bagration wrote:
PartinG looks mentally broken - even Fantasy would've found that GG late

Yeah, it was hard to tell for sure but I'm fairly sure he was crying. Competition at the top level can be brutal, and he's only human.


Yea Parting has talked about it on stream before but winning a GSL is something he wants to do before he retires as a pro gamer and it means a lot to him so im sure these last two seasons(especially season 1) when he gets close to the finals only to lose it really breaks him.


Yea, it's always tough to see the old veteran pro gamer try to win that last tournament. Boxer and Nada both tried in SC2, but neither managed to win a premier. That's why MMA's title at Homestory Cup was so special, because he was one of the few players who got to retire on top.

I always have a soft spot in my heart for those veterans giving it their all
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SetStndbySmn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States657 Posts
August 01 2020 05:17 GMT
#96
Should be tough for Trap. Stats has won like 13 of his last 14 pvp series.
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SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines894 Posts
August 01 2020 05:17 GMT
#97
I'm amazed on how TY methodically beat parting but i'm sad that parting has to hold on to that lucky storms on last game to even it out. I can feel for parting knowing he is really emotional when it comes to defeats and how broken he is on that last game hoping for a glimpse of hope in amidst of despair. Well there's still season 3 for him to win GSL, but he needs to overcome the incredible mind of TYTY first.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 05:18 GMT
#98
On August 01 2020 14:17 SetStndbySmn wrote:
Should be tough for Trap. Stats has won like 13 of his last 14 pvp series.

and yet, trap beat stats 3:0 before that streak began
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[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
August 01 2020 05:19 GMT
#99
On August 01 2020 14:07 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 14:02 [Phantom] wrote:
Poor Parting, I can actually relate to him a bit.

It seems he prepared a lot for this series. He brought 4 very specific strats to take out TY.

Unfortunately, TY did 3 things that, simply by luck honestly, countered what parting was doing, with the hellion drop comping earlier than Parting's strats. Or the Marauder push.


TY is a great player, but I can understand Parting being in disbelief in how much he prepared and how fast things went wrong. Let's be honest, he could have won some of those games, in most other circumstances he would have.

So I completely understand that he hanged there until the end. It's a shame he lost, but he is still a great player and I wish him luck in his future games.


TY may not be prepared to Parting's specific builds. But he probably knew Parting had some sharp timing builds prepared, so TY's overall strategy was to be aggressive, seize the initiative from the start, and not let Parting get into any rhythm. Going aggro against Parting is probably a risk that can go horribly wrong. But it's probably unfair to say TY got lucky?

Hmm yeah. Like you can't say it was all luck, he definitely prepared very hard for Parting too. It's just that it seems looking the type of builds they both did, TY one were very effective agaisnt everything Parting did, and a lot of it was circumstantial.

That's not to take away credit from him though. He probably would have won anyway, particularly in the final game he looked great and very precise.
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
August 01 2020 05:22 GMT
#100
TY is just bad news for Parting.

Parting is the most offensive Protoss on the planet. He can usually mechanically outmuscle patch Terrans with overrated micro like Maru, and stubborn players like Innovation.

But TY has brains and mechanics to back it up. If TY did that stuff to someone like stats or trap it would be bad news (but TY would probably know not to do it against them)
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
August 01 2020 05:23 GMT
#101
On August 01 2020 14:14 Elentos wrote:
Afreeca torturing me with showing TY fumble the series against Maru 2 years ago
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 14:07 RKC wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:02 [Phantom] wrote:
Poor Parting, I can actually relate to him a bit.

It seems he prepared a lot for this series. He brought 4 very specific strats to take out TY.

Unfortunately, TY did 3 things that, simply by luck honestly, countered what parting was doing, with the hellion drop comping earlier than Parting's strats. Or the Marauder push.


TY is a great player, but I can understand Parting being in disbelief in how much he prepared and how fast things went wrong. Let's be honest, he could have won some of those games, in most other circumstances he would have.

So I completely understand that he hanged there until the end. It's a shame he lost, but he is still a great player and I wish him luck in his future games.


TY may not be prepared to Parting's specific builds. But he probably knew Parting had some sharp timing builds prepared, so TY's overall strategy was to be aggressive, seize the initiative from the start, and not let Parting get into any rhythm. Going aggro against Parting is probably a risk that can go horribly wrong. But it's probably unfair to say TY got lucky?

This was already his game plan in season 1. Get in PartinG's face before he got in TY's.


Yes, I saw that entire series too. TY lost 1 game because he underestimated Parting's commitment to blink-into-base-and-win. Otherwise, TY was pretty much solid and in control that series - just like this series.

Sure, Parting prepared and played his heart out. But TY doesn't seem to get as much credit for his preparation and mental fortitude as well.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
August 01 2020 05:24 GMT
#102
Alright come on guys, give us the best series of the Ro8. Even though it's a PvP, this shouldn't be too much to ask.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 05:25 GMT
#103
On August 01 2020 14:24 Elentos wrote:
Alright come on guys, give us the best series of the Ro8. Even though it's a PvP, this shouldn't be too much to ask.

yeah this was an especially disappointing ro8 given how cool the matchups were
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-01 05:26:44
August 01 2020 05:26 GMT
#104
On August 01 2020 14:24 Elentos wrote:
Alright come on guys, give us the best series of the Ro8. Even though it's a PvP, this shouldn't be too much to ask.


Stats and Trap are arguably the remaining 'favourites'. No one would've bet on DRG, Rogue and (slumping) TY reaching into RO4 at the start of the season.
gg no re thx
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-01 05:28:15
August 01 2020 05:28 GMT
#105
One thing I miss about HotS PvP is Artosis rambling about forge timings
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 01 2020 05:28 GMT
#106
On August 01 2020 14:26 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 14:24 Elentos wrote:
Alright come on guys, give us the best series of the Ro8. Even though it's a PvP, this shouldn't be too much to ask.


Stats and Trap are arguably the remaining 'favourites'. No one would've bet on DRG, Rogue and (slumping) TY reaching into RO4 at the start of the season.


Protosses are never favorites to win against a Zerg. And at the beginning of this season TY was easily much more likely to reach the Ro4 than Stats.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
August 01 2020 05:29 GMT
#107
On August 01 2020 14:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 14:26 RKC wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:24 Elentos wrote:
Alright come on guys, give us the best series of the Ro8. Even though it's a PvP, this shouldn't be too much to ask.


Stats and Trap are arguably the remaining 'favourites'. No one would've bet on DRG, Rogue and (slumping) TY reaching into RO4 at the start of the season.


Protosses are never favorites to win against a Zerg. And at the beginning of this season TY was easily much more likely to reach the Ro4 than Stats.


But people assume Zergs would've been nerfed this season
gg no re thx
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 05:30 GMT
#108
Stats please beat TY man...
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
August 01 2020 05:32 GMT
#109
On August 01 2020 14:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 14:26 RKC wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:24 Elentos wrote:
Alright come on guys, give us the best series of the Ro8. Even though it's a PvP, this shouldn't be too much to ask.


Stats and Trap are arguably the remaining 'favourites'. No one would've bet on DRG, Rogue and (slumping) TY reaching into RO4 at the start of the season.


Protosses are never favorites to win against a Zerg. And at the beginning of this season TY was easily much more likely to reach the Ro4 than Stats.

Well by default as the GSL champ, right? As the GSL champ you almost start in the Ro8.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
August 01 2020 05:34 GMT
#110
That was weird btw. Like obviously Trap wanted to get something done cause Stats got the 3rd so much faster. But he should have known committing so hard would be suicidal.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-01 05:38:35
August 01 2020 05:35 GMT
#111
On August 01 2020 14:32 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 14:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:26 RKC wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:24 Elentos wrote:
Alright come on guys, give us the best series of the Ro8. Even though it's a PvP, this shouldn't be too much to ask.


Stats and Trap are arguably the remaining 'favourites'. No one would've bet on DRG, Rogue and (slumping) TY reaching into RO4 at the start of the season.


Protosses are never favorites to win against a Zerg. And at the beginning of this season TY was easily much more likely to reach the Ro4 than Stats.

Well by default as the GSL champ, right? As the GSL champ you almost start in the Ro8.


Yeah. Though everything else being equal I do think that at the beginning of the season even a slightly slumping TY seemed better than a Stats that hasn't had a big result in a while. Stats only really overperformed online after the season began.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
August 01 2020 05:35 GMT
#112
On August 01 2020 14:32 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 14:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:26 RKC wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:24 Elentos wrote:
Alright come on guys, give us the best series of the Ro8. Even though it's a PvP, this shouldn't be too much to ask.


Stats and Trap are arguably the remaining 'favourites'. No one would've bet on DRG, Rogue and (slumping) TY reaching into RO4 at the start of the season.


Protosses are never favorites to win against a Zerg. And at the beginning of this season TY was easily much more likely to reach the Ro4 than Stats.

Well by default as the GSL champ, right? As the GSL champ you almost start in the Ro8.


To me, TY remains a favourite. But based on his recent performances, most people were writing him out.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 05:37 GMT
#113
On August 01 2020 14:35 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 14:32 Elentos wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:26 RKC wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:24 Elentos wrote:
Alright come on guys, give us the best series of the Ro8. Even though it's a PvP, this shouldn't be too much to ask.


Stats and Trap are arguably the remaining 'favourites'. No one would've bet on DRG, Rogue and (slumping) TY reaching into RO4 at the start of the season.


Protosses are never favorites to win against a Zerg. And at the beginning of this season TY was easily much more likely to reach the Ro4 than Stats.

Well by default as the GSL champ, right? As the GSL champ you almost start in the Ro8.


To me, TY remains a favourite. But based on his recent performances, most people were writing him out.

PartinG 2-0ing INno certainly helped
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
August 01 2020 05:38 GMT
#114
On August 01 2020 14:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 14:35 RKC wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:32 Elentos wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:26 RKC wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:24 Elentos wrote:
Alright come on guys, give us the best series of the Ro8. Even though it's a PvP, this shouldn't be too much to ask.


Stats and Trap are arguably the remaining 'favourites'. No one would've bet on DRG, Rogue and (slumping) TY reaching into RO4 at the start of the season.


Protosses are never favorites to win against a Zerg. And at the beginning of this season TY was easily much more likely to reach the Ro4 than Stats.

Well by default as the GSL champ, right? As the GSL champ you almost start in the Ro8.


To me, TY remains a favourite. But based on his recent performances, most people were writing him out.

PartinG 2-0ing INno certainly helped

It helped DRG get to the Ro4 yeah.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 05:41 GMT
#115
Goddamn stats looks so good
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 05:42 GMT
#116
On August 01 2020 14:38 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 14:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:35 RKC wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:32 Elentos wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:26 RKC wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:24 Elentos wrote:
Alright come on guys, give us the best series of the Ro8. Even though it's a PvP, this shouldn't be too much to ask.


Stats and Trap are arguably the remaining 'favourites'. No one would've bet on DRG, Rogue and (slumping) TY reaching into RO4 at the start of the season.


Protosses are never favorites to win against a Zerg. And at the beginning of this season TY was easily much more likely to reach the Ro4 than Stats.

Well by default as the GSL champ, right? As the GSL champ you almost start in the Ro8.


To me, TY remains a favourite. But based on his recent performances, most people were writing him out.

PartinG 2-0ing INno certainly helped

It helped DRG get to the Ro4 yeah.

considering drg would have had to play dark otherwise yeah it did, im not complaining
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
August 01 2020 05:42 GMT
#117
Stats' control is forever underappreciated tbh
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 01 2020 05:42 GMT
#118
2020 and Stats is still a god
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
SetStndbySmn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States657 Posts
August 01 2020 05:43 GMT
#119
My favorite thing about stats is how much you can learn from him. The stuff he does looks much more doable than someone like Parting.
"He doesn't operate under some divine shroud that lets him determine what is or is not valid culture. He cannot rob you, retroactively, of wholly valid experiences; he cannot transform them into worthless things." - Tycho
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 01 2020 05:43 GMT
#120
That was clean. Stats had built up his lead, found Trap out of position and pounced.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
August 01 2020 05:44 GMT
#121
On August 01 2020 14:38 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 14:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:35 RKC wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:32 Elentos wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:26 RKC wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:24 Elentos wrote:
Alright come on guys, give us the best series of the Ro8. Even though it's a PvP, this shouldn't be too much to ask.


Stats and Trap are arguably the remaining 'favourites'. No one would've bet on DRG, Rogue and (slumping) TY reaching into RO4 at the start of the season.


Protosses are never favorites to win against a Zerg. And at the beginning of this season TY was easily much more likely to reach the Ro4 than Stats.

Well by default as the GSL champ, right? As the GSL champ you almost start in the Ro8.


To me, TY remains a favourite. But based on his recent performances, most people were writing him out.

PartinG 2-0ing INno certainly helped

It helped DRG get to the Ro4 yeah.


Careful, you may be pissing off the DRG "we're back in 2012 f**h yeah" fanboys
gg no re thx
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 05:45 GMT
#122
On August 01 2020 14:44 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 14:38 Elentos wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:35 RKC wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:32 Elentos wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:26 RKC wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:24 Elentos wrote:
Alright come on guys, give us the best series of the Ro8. Even though it's a PvP, this shouldn't be too much to ask.


Stats and Trap are arguably the remaining 'favourites'. No one would've bet on DRG, Rogue and (slumping) TY reaching into RO4 at the start of the season.


Protosses are never favorites to win against a Zerg. And at the beginning of this season TY was easily much more likely to reach the Ro4 than Stats.

Well by default as the GSL champ, right? As the GSL champ you almost start in the Ro8.


To me, TY remains a favourite. But based on his recent performances, most people were writing him out.

PartinG 2-0ing INno certainly helped

It helped DRG get to the Ro4 yeah.


Careful, you may be pissing off the DRG "we're back in 2012 f**h yeah" fanboys

he knows who he's talking to
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 05:48 GMT
#123
Stats is SO GOOD
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SetStndbySmn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States657 Posts
August 01 2020 05:49 GMT
#124
jeez he makes this matchup look solved af
"He doesn't operate under some divine shroud that lets him determine what is or is not valid culture. He cannot rob you, retroactively, of wholly valid experiences; he cannot transform them into worthless things." - Tycho
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
August 01 2020 05:49 GMT
#125
Stats is really brillant, I hope he takes it this season !
Estraizher
Profile Joined December 2014
289 Posts
August 01 2020 05:49 GMT
#126
Very underwhelming day
~
BabyMozart
Profile Joined January 2013
54 Posts
August 01 2020 05:49 GMT
#127
Stats is the new Rain!!! (has been for a while)
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
August 01 2020 05:49 GMT
#128
3 clean sweeps in RO8. Does this bode for a shitty semies/finals???
gg no re thx
ZAWGURN
Profile Joined July 2018
96 Posts
August 01 2020 05:50 GMT
#129
That was just a pretty terrible ro8, the games were so quick with 3 3-0s and one 3-1 that was pretty much a bop out of one clown fiesta game. Let’s hope that the ro4 gives us more interesting matches than this
CJ herO #1 fan.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 01 2020 05:51 GMT
#130
Two years since Stats made playoffs in the GSL. Feels good
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
August 01 2020 05:51 GMT
#131
when stats is on he's a monster.

if he plays like this the rest of the tournament he's going to win
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 01 2020 05:52 GMT
#132
On August 01 2020 14:49 RKC wrote:
3 clean sweeps in RO8. Does this bode for a shitty semies/finals???

Rogue existing bodes ill if you want good matches
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
August 01 2020 05:52 GMT
#133
And guess what, Afreeca Freecs is now the best team in the world
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 05:52 GMT
#134
On August 01 2020 14:50 ZAWGURN wrote:
That was just a pretty terrible ro8, the games were so quick with 3 3-0s and one 3-1 that was pretty much a bop out of one clown fiesta game. Let’s hope that the ro4 gives us more interesting matches than this

ZvZ gonna be hella quick. DRG will lose to his own speedling all in, win a ravager mirror, lose to swarmhosts, win a speedling all in, lose to drone ling push
TY v Stats will be an average 4-2
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
August 01 2020 05:58 GMT
#135
On August 01 2020 14:52 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 14:50 ZAWGURN wrote:
That was just a pretty terrible ro8, the games were so quick with 3 3-0s and one 3-1 that was pretty much a bop out of one clown fiesta game. Let’s hope that the ro4 gives us more interesting matches than this

ZvZ gonna be hella quick. DRG will lose to his own speedling all in, win a ravager mirror, lose to swarmhosts, win a speedling all in, lose to drone ling push
TY v Stats will be an average 4-2


No proxy hatches/spines?
gg no re thx
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 05:59 GMT
#136
On August 01 2020 14:58 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 14:52 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 01 2020 14:50 ZAWGURN wrote:
That was just a pretty terrible ro8, the games were so quick with 3 3-0s and one 3-1 that was pretty much a bop out of one clown fiesta game. Let’s hope that the ro4 gives us more interesting matches than this

ZvZ gonna be hella quick. DRG will lose to his own speedling all in, win a ravager mirror, lose to swarmhosts, win a speedling all in, lose to drone ling push
TY v Stats will be an average 4-2


No proxy hatches/spines?

when i say drone ling push i mean spine in drg's main, like his season 1 game v impact, that or proxy hatch since it's rogue
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
August 01 2020 05:59 GMT
#137
On paper Rogue-TY would be really hype since it's #1 vs #2 in the Korean EPT standings. But I don't know how much I actually want to see that.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 05:59 GMT
#138
On August 01 2020 14:59 Elentos wrote:
On paper Rogue-TY would be really hype since it's #1 vs #2 in the Korean EPT standings. But I don't know how much I actually want to see that.

ew
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shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
August 01 2020 06:25 GMT
#139
TY is probably the smartest player rn. Which is kinda why he casted as well.
There's no other explanation how someone with average mechanics can be so good.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines894 Posts
August 01 2020 06:26 GMT
#140
Freecs>jinair
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
RainStorm148
Profile Joined July 2018
20 Posts
August 01 2020 06:33 GMT
#141
oh no... i don't think Stats has ever beaten TY before in a Bo7... this doesnt look good...
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
August 01 2020 06:47 GMT
#142
On August 01 2020 15:33 RainStorm148 wrote:
oh no... i don't think Stats has ever beaten TY before in a Bo7... this doesnt look good...


It seems bad but Stats PvT is at about the same level as his PvP right now based on his online results and that's against players like Inno, Dream and Cure so I have a little faith.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
August 01 2020 06:56 GMT
#143
On August 01 2020 14:24 Elentos wrote:
Alright come on guys, give us the best series of the Ro8. Even though it's a PvP, this shouldn't be too much to ask.


It aged well.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
August 01 2020 07:03 GMT
#144
On August 01 2020 15:56 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 14:24 Elentos wrote:
Alright come on guys, give us the best series of the Ro8. Even though it's a PvP, this shouldn't be too much to ask.


It aged well.

Turns out it was too much to ask a mere Jin Air player to keep up with Stats
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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
August 01 2020 07:37 GMT
#145
Over the years I've become more tolerant towards Tasteless superlatives in his cast but today as TY vs PartinG was loading up, he started going on about if TY won a second consecutive Code S it would be something "never seen before in all of StarCraft and all of esports"...

I know it's rhetoric but come on man...
Mine gas, build tanks.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 07:56 GMT
#146
On August 01 2020 15:47 Z3nith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 15:33 RainStorm148 wrote:
oh no... i don't think Stats has ever beaten TY before in a Bo7... this doesnt look good...


It seems bad but Stats PvT is at about the same level as his PvP right now based on his online results and that's against players like Inno, Dream and Cure so I have a little faith.

its still stats v ty sooooo
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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
August 01 2020 08:01 GMT
#147
If DRG beats Rogue I think he's favored against both Stats and TY. But I don't think he'll beat Rogue.
Mine gas, build tanks.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 01 2020 08:07 GMT
#148
On August 01 2020 17:01 Akio wrote:
If DRG beats Rogue I think he's favored against both Stats and TY. But I don't think he'll beat Rogue.

stats destroys drg if for no other reason than drg has no confidence vP, but he could beat ty yeah
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
August 01 2020 10:11 GMT
#149
2/2 on the more important bets at least. I wouldn't mind a consecutive TY title but Stats winning it all before military service would just be the best thing ever. Too bad they don' t meet in the finals and there is a Rogue in the way..
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
August 01 2020 10:56 GMT
#150
I'm actually starting to question whether PvP is all that volatile with the introduction of the battery overcharge. It seems now like we are consistently getting past 1 base and while the Trap Vs Stats game doesn't show it there have been quite a few games where players have gotten into lategame comps.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
August 01 2020 11:11 GMT
#151
On August 01 2020 19:11 Penev wrote:
2/2 on the more important bets at least. I wouldn't mind a consecutive TY title but Stats winning it all before military service would just be the best thing ever. Too bad they don' t meet in the finals and there is a Rogue in the way..


Yeah this Ro4 is going to hurt either way. I guess all we can hope for is a great series at least. And that the winner takes down the evil patchzerg in the grand finals.

"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
August 01 2020 11:12 GMT
#152
PartinG is alright guys.

"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3095 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-01 12:27:14
August 01 2020 12:27 GMT
#153
On August 01 2020 14:22 BerserkSword wrote:
TY is just bad news for Parting.

Parting is the most offensive Protoss on the planet. He can usually mechanically outmuscle patch Terrans with overrated micro like Maru, and stubborn players like Innovation.

But TY has brains and mechanics to back it up. If TY did that stuff to someone like stats or trap it would be bad news (but TY would probably know not to do it against them)


lol Maru a partch Terran, really? Damn some of you guys really get angry at this game dont you? damn.
Artosis loves Starcraft
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25152 Posts
August 01 2020 12:44 GMT
#154
On August 01 2020 15:25 shadymmj wrote:
TY is probably the smartest player rn. Which is kinda why he casted as well.
There's no other explanation how someone with average mechanics can be so good.

Average mechanics compared to who exactly? He’s not wily old Mvp with barely functioning wrists relying on his guile and wits, he’s very good at planning but still really solid mechanically.

Sadly underwhelming Ro8 for exciting, pulsating matches. Although Stats put on an absolute PvP clinic against a Trap who wasn’t even playing too badly, so for things to learn from I guess us Protoss at least got something to mull over.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25152 Posts
August 01 2020 12:46 GMT
#155
On August 01 2020 21:27 NoS-Craig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 14:22 BerserkSword wrote:
TY is just bad news for Parting.

Parting is the most offensive Protoss on the planet. He can usually mechanically outmuscle patch Terrans with overrated micro like Maru, and stubborn players like Innovation.

But TY has brains and mechanics to back it up. If TY did that stuff to someone like stats or trap it would be bad news (but TY would probably know not to do it against them)


lol Maru a partch Terran, really? Damn some of you guys really get angry at this game dont you? damn.

Isn’t Maru’s thing to win tournaments when his Terran peers are doing relatively badly anyway? As in the opposite of a patch Terran? :S

Granted, while he’s no slouch in TvT I think this is at least in part because when the race falls off he’s less likely to get sniped in the mirror as well.
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dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1204 Posts
August 01 2020 13:10 GMT
#156
Good to have semis with every race represented. Rogue's probably the favorite but I think TY might be able to beat him in a best of seven.
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tskarzyn
Profile Joined July 2010
United States516 Posts
August 01 2020 14:18 GMT
#157
On August 01 2020 14:22 BerserkSword wrote:
TY is just bad news for Parting.

Parting is the most offensive Protoss on the planet. He can usually mechanically outmuscle patch Terrans with overrated micro like Maru, and stubborn players like Innovation.

But TY has brains and mechanics to back it up. If TY did that stuff to someone like stats or trap it would be bad news (but TY would probably know not to do it against them)


lol
Athenau
Profile Joined March 2015
569 Posts
August 01 2020 15:00 GMT
#158
If Maru is a patch-terran, shouldn't he be doing well in the #terranpatch?
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
August 01 2020 15:22 GMT
#159
The narrative of the so-called terranpatch is getting a bit old.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25152 Posts
August 01 2020 15:26 GMT
#160
On August 02 2020 00:22 DieuCure wrote:
The narrative of the so-called terranpatch is getting a bit old.

I’m still bitter at Toss nerfs from one outlying Super Tournament so I’m going to facetiously roll with the #TerranPatch bandwagon
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25152 Posts
August 01 2020 15:33 GMT
#161
Why is TY casting such a big deal anyway?

I mean it’s a nice narrative angle I guess but he’s had soO filling in when he makes his deep runs. Provided one has decent communication skills surely any truly elite S class player could juggle a bit of casting here and there?

If anything it’s probably mentally liberating to not be grinding the game quite so hard.

Just seems a bit overblown really, to me anyway. It’s not like he’s a part time player these days or anything.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12797 Posts
August 01 2020 15:47 GMT
#162
On August 02 2020 00:22 DieuCure wrote:
The narrative of the so-called terranpatch is getting a bit old.

I don’t recall any Terran patch in LotV. Even when ByuN won zergs had ultra strong ultralisks and stuff
WriterMaru
PyroNswe
Profile Joined March 2020
Sweden23 Posts
August 01 2020 16:00 GMT
#163
interesting games even though I was looking forward to longer macro games.
Anyway GZ TY!
"The Terran army, Is better than your army" -RotterdaM
Arcanefrost
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium1257 Posts
August 01 2020 19:52 GMT
#164
Stats is godlike
Valor is a poor substitute for numbers.
inky13112
Profile Joined July 2020
3 Posts
August 01 2020 20:41 GMT
#165
On August 01 2020 21:27 NoS-Craig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2020 14:22 BerserkSword wrote:
TY is just bad news for Parting.

Parting is the most offensive Protoss on the planet. He can usually mechanically outmuscle patch Terrans with overrated micro like Maru, and stubborn players like Innovation.

But TY has brains and mechanics to back it up. If TY did that stuff to someone like stats or trap it would be bad news (but TY would probably know not to do it against them)


lol Maru a partch Terran, really? Damn some of you guys really get angry at this game dont you? damn.


Its a big part of what makes watching it fun for me.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17671 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-02 05:03:22
August 02 2020 05:02 GMT
#166
On August 02 2020 00:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
Why is TY casting such a big deal anyway?

I mean it’s a nice narrative angle I guess but he’s had soO filling in when he makes his deep runs. Provided one has decent communication skills surely any truly elite S class player could juggle a bit of casting here and there?

If anything it’s probably mentally liberating to not be grinding the game quite so hard.

Just seems a bit overblown really, to me anyway. It’s not like he’s a part time player these days or anything.

yea it is a bit weird to make such a big deal about him casting for like 8 hours a week (he only casts SC2 and not BW, right?), that's nowhere near a fulltime job, that's not even a lot for a hobby

even 8 hours is probably overestimating, because he'd watch a lot of these games anyways to learn about his opponents
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
August 02 2020 05:20 GMT
#167
I think Artosis, in some sort of unconscious display of jealousy, made a big deal about it first and then it became a Tastosis gag going forward. It's like "I stream all day, cast, and am nowhere near pro, it's so impressive that this guy is!"
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