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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
On July 19 2020 01:46 Lexender wrote: Is there any protoss who id considered to have the best PvZ rn? Considering good PvZ is usually taking a few maps before dying nowadays. Zest, Parting.. | ||
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greenturtle23
86 Posts
On July 19 2020 01:42 Ej_ wrote: Funnily enough, INnoVation did show a great Golden Wall strategy today that he didn't have an opportunity to use in GSL. I can't wait to try that one out on ladder  | ||
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geokilla
Canada8246 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 19 2020 01:46 Lexender wrote: Is there any protoss who id considered to have the best PvZ rn? Considering good PvZ is usually taking a few maps before dying nowadays. PartinG, because his cannon rush is really good. | ||
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rayl991
Afghanistan80 Posts
On July 19 2020 01:44 Ej_ wrote: When I think of the best Protosses out there, I wonder which one I would I favor against a Zerg player. There are no Toss that are good in PvZ tbh, not to mention we are missing 2 of the top protoss (Classic and hero) | ||
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stilt
France2755 Posts
On July 19 2020 01:40 royalroadweed wrote: Not happening. The sc2 version of Justin Gathje gonna beat on one of them to deny us the match up. They shall not meet in finals but maybe semi are allowed... | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On July 19 2020 01:46 Lexender wrote: Is there any protoss who id considered to have the best PvZ rn? Considering good PvZ is usually taking a few maps before dying nowadays. One of them surely has the best PvZ, just none of them have good PvZ. | ||
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Swisslink
2954 Posts
On July 19 2020 01:44 Ej_ wrote: When I think of the best Protosses out there, I wonder which one I would I favor against a Zerg player. Well... Right now we got the weird situation where I feel like Korean Zerg struggle a lot, while European Zerg wreck even the best Koreans. Before, we could at least argue that in the Korean scene the Zerg are dominating as well. Right now, that's no longer the case and Reynor/Serral still seem to be on top. Which is even more impressive than their accomplishments in the past, imo. | ||
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Elentos
55571 Posts
On July 19 2020 01:47 stilt wrote: They shall not meet in finals but maybe semi are allowed... They can't even meet when they're in the same damn Blizzcon group. | ||
Waxangel
United States33599 Posts
On July 19 2020 01:34 Andi_Goldberger wrote: yeah but dark was playing cross server 400 ping at 4 AM fuck wait Look, Dark's computer was like 3m further away from the router at the GSL studio, which causes a perceptable difference at the GSL level. It's not something a European progamer would understand  | ||
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dysenterymd
1250 Posts
That said I hope Trap listens to sOs if he wants a chance tomorrow. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 19 2020 01:48 Swisslink wrote: Well... Right now we got the weird situation where I feel like Korean Zerg struggle a lot, while European Zerg wreck even the best Koreans. Before, we could at least argue that in the Korean scene the Zerg are dominating as well. Right now, that's no longer the case and Reynor/Serral still seem to be on top. Which is even more impressive than their accomplishments in the past, imo. There still isn't a single Protoss on the planet that you would favor in a matchup vs a top 4 Zerg. Maybe not even top 8. | ||
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Elentos
55571 Posts
On July 19 2020 01:47 Fango wrote: One of them surely has the best PvZ, just none of them have good PvZ. I'll just default to Stats cause of reasons. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26760 Posts
On July 19 2020 01:39 JJH777 wrote: Do you even watch the game? Reynor has yet to win anything besides foreigner only events. Serral and Reynor have not won any of the 3 IEMs since 2018. Serral won 1 of the 2 Blizzcons. They won neither WESG. They obviously haven't won or participated in any GSL events. They didn't win ASUS ROG. You must only watch homestory cups and WCS/ESL if you actually believe what you just typed. Serral won two GSL vs the Worlds in this period. He could have won Blizzcon I think but Reynor took him out in a tight series. Reynor made a Blizzcon final too. Which is a runners up rather than a tournament win but it’s still huge. Even if they’re not winning everything, they’re not placing too badly in any of these tournaments really. Serral still made the finals at WESG and played a really tight 7 game series against Inno. Katowice for whatever reason foreigners haven’t performed too well, but they have great results elsewhere. Honestly not sure why this is. Reynor made Ro16 in GSL quite some time ago before he couldn’t even compete in WCS and I’m pretty sure it’s commonly accepted he’s a much better player now. | ||
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chuchutrain
31 Posts
Honestly before 2020 I was out of the loop for another 3 years... so it was a pleasant surprise when I got back into SC to see top top foreigners, have to see how he shows up against TY now Although it is like what, 3am in Korea now? Plus TY had to cast 4 hours this morning in GSL... hope that doesn't affect him that much :O From what I read I missed a decent series between Reynor and Inno tho?? | ||
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Elentos
55571 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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Elentos
55571 Posts
On July 19 2020 01:50 chuchutrain wrote: Glad to be finally catching a Serral game! Honestly before 2020 I was out of the loop for another 3 years... so it was a pleasant surprise when I got back into SC to see top top foreigners, have to see how he shows up against TY now Although it is like what, 3am in Korea now? Plus TY had to cast 4 hours this morning in GSL... hope that doesn't affect him that much :O From what I read I missed a decent series between Reynor and Inno tho?? Tbh Reynor vs Inno was 4 stomps and a cool game on Golden Wall. | ||
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stilt
France2755 Posts
On July 19 2020 01:38 Wombat_NI wrote: Dark and Rogue would like a word. If there’s a top tier of the absolute best players in a race, Serral and Reynor are in that tier and that’s pretty unique yeah. We’ve had Neeb having a period as a top Protoss and Serral being Serral. Having two in that ‘S’ bracket at the same time is pretty damn unique though I think. Exciting times for the foreign scene. Both TIME and Clem definitely have the potential to maybe ascend from being top foreign Terrans into top Terrans outright too. I wouldn't put Dark with the others. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
The reality is that even an out of shape Dark with fucked up wrists is a top 4 Zerg in the world. | ||
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