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On July 17 2020 00:54 darklycid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2020 00:52 Luolis wrote:On July 17 2020 00:51 darklycid wrote:On July 17 2020 00:50 Luolis wrote:On July 17 2020 00:48 darklycid wrote:On July 17 2020 00:47 Fango wrote:On July 17 2020 00:45 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On July 17 2020 00:43 Vindicare605 wrote:On July 17 2020 00:41 yht9657 wrote:Fierce balance row in LR threads is always a good sign of alive game  A struggling NA Protoss lost to one of the top 3 Terrans in the world, game's imbalanced yo. Imbalanced against the Terran no less. Disruptors need to be nerfed! Just a heads up, no one here is saying protoss is massively overpowered or imbalanced, just that disruptors are terribly designed and not a good or fun feature in sc2. I agree on that but i don't agree on just losing libs is enough from what we've seen recently bio ghost viking rolls pretty much any non disruptor army if you don't fuck up hard. If colossi were in their hots form would you agree? Not sure i'm open to test out stuff but the game changed so much from hots that i don't feel like i can just say yes :D I feel like if colossus and EMP were reversed it'd probably look something like HOTS lategame (aka terran doesnt want to play it and scv pulls :D) Very well possible, just think that currently pvt is slightly t favored and disruptors are pretty much a big part in why protoss has its winrate :D
I think in the super lategame it's still protoss favoured. I don't see many terrans win once protoss starts spamming blink DTs/warp prism backstabs/mass disruptor.
Even the terrans that have good winrates right now (most of them) it comes down to fast mid game pushes.
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Broodlords are so bad lol. I feel like the only Zerg tier 3 unit that does anything is the viper
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On July 17 2020 00:54 darklycid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2020 00:52 Luolis wrote:On July 17 2020 00:51 darklycid wrote:On July 17 2020 00:50 Luolis wrote:On July 17 2020 00:48 darklycid wrote:On July 17 2020 00:47 Fango wrote:On July 17 2020 00:45 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On July 17 2020 00:43 Vindicare605 wrote:On July 17 2020 00:41 yht9657 wrote:Fierce balance row in LR threads is always a good sign of alive game A struggling NA Protoss lost to one of the top 3 Terrans in the world, game's imbalanced yo. Imbalanced against the Terran no less. Disruptors need to be nerfed! Just a heads up, no one here is saying protoss is massively overpowered or imbalanced, just that disruptors are terribly designed and not a good or fun feature in sc2. I agree on that but i don't agree on just losing libs is enough from what we've seen recently bio ghost viking rolls pretty much any non disruptor army if you don't fuck up hard. If colossi were in their hots form would you agree? Not sure i'm open to test out stuff but the game changed so much from hots that i don't feel like i can just say yes :D I feel like if colossus and EMP were reversed it'd probably look something like HOTS lategame (aka terran doesnt want to play it and scv pulls :D) Very well possible, just think that currently pvt is slightly t favored and disruptors are pretty much a big part in why protoss has its winrate :D
I don't necessarily disagree. It all comes back to what i've been saying for a long time that lotv is just inferior design wise and has these core balance problems that are being held kinda together by bandaids (disruptors, queen nerf, etc)
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On July 17 2020 00:52 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2020 00:51 darklycid wrote:On July 17 2020 00:50 Luolis wrote:On July 17 2020 00:48 darklycid wrote:On July 17 2020 00:47 Fango wrote:On July 17 2020 00:45 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On July 17 2020 00:43 Vindicare605 wrote:On July 17 2020 00:41 yht9657 wrote:Fierce balance row in LR threads is always a good sign of alive game A struggling NA Protoss lost to one of the top 3 Terrans in the world, game's imbalanced yo. Imbalanced against the Terran no less. Disruptors need to be nerfed! Just a heads up, no one here is saying protoss is massively overpowered or imbalanced, just that disruptors are terribly designed and not a good or fun feature in sc2. I agree on that but i don't agree on just losing libs is enough from what we've seen recently bio ghost viking rolls pretty much any non disruptor army if you don't fuck up hard. If colossi were in their hots form would you agree? Not sure i'm open to test out stuff but the game changed so much from hots that i don't feel like i can just say yes :D I feel like if colossus and EMP were reversed it'd probably look something like HOTS lategame (aka terran doesnt want to play it and scv pulls :D)
A lot of current T winrate already has to do with SCV pulls lmao but to be fair we also have 1 base pushes too something that wasn't possible before.
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no DTs to save parting this game 
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On July 17 2020 00:57 Andi_Goldberger wrote:no DTs to save parting this game
A tactical error.
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Inno is looking in rather scary shape so far.
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Innovation up 1-0 against Serral already? What happened.
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On July 17 2020 00:58 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2020 00:57 Andi_Goldberger wrote:no DTs to save parting this game A tactical error.
A small boy move.
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On July 17 2020 00:58 geokilla wrote:
Innovation up 1-0 against Serral already? What happened.
Innovation pulled out some of the best Mech Terran I've seen in a while and just beat Serral on every front.
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On July 17 2020 00:58 geokilla wrote:
Innovation up 1-0 against Serral already? What happened.
You missed like a 20 minute mech game
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On July 17 2020 00:56 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2020 00:54 darklycid wrote:On July 17 2020 00:52 Luolis wrote:On July 17 2020 00:51 darklycid wrote:On July 17 2020 00:50 Luolis wrote:On July 17 2020 00:48 darklycid wrote:On July 17 2020 00:47 Fango wrote:On July 17 2020 00:45 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On July 17 2020 00:43 Vindicare605 wrote:On July 17 2020 00:41 yht9657 wrote:Fierce balance row in LR threads is always a good sign of alive game A struggling NA Protoss lost to one of the top 3 Terrans in the world, game's imbalanced yo. Imbalanced against the Terran no less. Disruptors need to be nerfed! Just a heads up, no one here is saying protoss is massively overpowered or imbalanced, just that disruptors are terribly designed and not a good or fun feature in sc2. I agree on that but i don't agree on just losing libs is enough from what we've seen recently bio ghost viking rolls pretty much any non disruptor army if you don't fuck up hard. If colossi were in their hots form would you agree? Not sure i'm open to test out stuff but the game changed so much from hots that i don't feel like i can just say yes :D I feel like if colossus and EMP were reversed it'd probably look something like HOTS lategame (aka terran doesnt want to play it and scv pulls :D) Very well possible, just think that currently pvt is slightly t favored and disruptors are pretty much a big part in why protoss has its winrate :D I think in the super lategame it's still protoss favoured. I don't see many terrans win once protoss starts spamming blink DTs/warp prism backstabs/mass disruptor. Even the terrans that have good winrates right now (most of them) it comes down to fast mid game pushes.
Yeah super lategame is quite good with blink dts but i think if there werent disruptors terran could also way easier move around the map with its army and just go for decisive pushes when toss has too much dts on their side.
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Both games starting up simultaneously, guess there is no way around the split screen now
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On July 17 2020 01:03 sneakyfox wrote:
Both games starting up simultaneously, guess there is no way around the split screen now
You could watch one and try to imagine the other?
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I mean I genuinely can't see the appeal of Group B at all when Serral vs Innovation is on, but that's just me.
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On July 17 2020 01:04 Vindicare605 wrote:
I mean I genuinely can't see the appeal of Group B at all when Serral vs Innovation is on, but that's just me.
Game 1 of PartinG vs Heromarine will probably stay the best game that happened all day.
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On July 17 2020 01:04 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2020 01:03 sneakyfox wrote:
Both games starting up simultaneously, guess there is no way around the split screen now You could watch one and try to imagine the other?
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looking like a nasty push from gabe
baited..
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On July 17 2020 01:03 sneakyfox wrote:
Both games starting up simultaneously, guess there is no way around the split screen now
Just watch Serral vs INno it will be much better
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EPT
