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- Group Stage #1 (Round of 24): Dual Tournament Format.
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[GSL 2020] Code S - RO24 - Group F
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Pandemona
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Poll: Who Advances? Bunny & Trap (11) Trap & RagnaroK (9) Bunny & RagnaroK (2) Trap & Patience (2) RagnaroK & Patience (1) Patience & Bunny (1) 26 total votes Your vote: Who Advances? (Vote): Bunny & Trap | ||
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[PkF] Wire
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On July 08 2020 04:26 mikedupp wrote: Hardest group to predict DRG / Dream one was pretty hard too, but yeah I feel like any combination of two players can advance. Trap - Ragnarok seems to be the most logical choice, but I see every player getting realistic chances tomorrow. | ||
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On July 08 2020 14:28 5ecured wrote: Wait, this does not start at the normal time correct? Because of the group nominations after the matches? I think its like 2 hours earlier or so? 90 minutes earlier because of the group selection afterwards. | ||
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Lets hope for some entertaining games today | ||
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dbRic1203
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And that centry drop looks like a BeastyQT series | ||
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On July 08 2020 17:28 dbRic1203 wrote: The Observing is a bit of I fell like :/ Feels like the C team observer. Hope this isn't Shine because it's not his usual standard. | ||
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Right then Patience throws half his ruptors away Just to kill Traps Disruptors 30s later as well... | ||
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sneakyfox
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On July 08 2020 17:29 Vindicare605 wrote: Feels like the C team observer. Hope this isn't Shine because it's not his usual standard. It's been a while since I have seen Shine observing. It's been JYP lately. | ||
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Vindicare605
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On July 08 2020 17:32 sneakyfox wrote: It's been a while since I have seen Shine observing. It's been JYP lately. Oh you're right, I thought of him right away because Tasteless said something. Either way, that observering got real weird that game. | ||
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sneakyfox
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- Artosis, 2020. | ||
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Lexender
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Wait, how the fuck is the robo still there lol. | ||
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Argonauta
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On July 08 2020 17:39 Lexender wrote: Somehow Trap is in an actual good spot and losing the prism may even put him ahead. Wait, how the fuck is the robo still there lol. Patience had a quite bad supply block at 78 | ||
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sneakyfox
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On July 08 2020 17:39 sneakyfox wrote: "Patience is good because he makes bad moves" - Artosis, 2020. I guess sometimes making bad moves just makes you... bad | ||
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dbRic1203
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On July 08 2020 17:46 Argonauta wrote: It was a fun PvP nonetheless. Patience such an exciting player to watch Yeah, it was probably even above average in terms of Code S groupstage Games this year.. Pretty good for PvP Even though we had quite a lot of forgettable series so far this year  | ||
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dbRic1203
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On July 08 2020 17:50 Andi_Goldberger wrote: tfw they use another start time for the last day of the groups >< its because Group nomination ceremony | ||
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Argonauta
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On July 08 2020 17:47 sudete wrote: I can't believe people would rather watch serral than patience you are making it easy there. Now Maru or Patience? Thats hard to choose | ||
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[PkF] Wire
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On July 08 2020 17:50 Andi_Goldberger wrote: tfw they use another start time for the last day of the groups >< I think they've been doing it since the new format, they can do the selection just after the group this way | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
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On July 08 2020 18:06 sneakyfox wrote: Another good game on Golden Wall. It's just a great map. Its a good terran bio map = good games :D | ||
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pvsnp
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On July 08 2020 18:06 Andi_Goldberger wrote: Its a good terran bio map = good games :D Eternal is a good mech map, but it usually delivers good games too. | ||
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On July 08 2020 18:06 sneakyfox wrote: Another good game on Golden Wall. It's just a great map. I was very skeptical when I first saw it but this is definitely one of the best (if not the best ?) maps to come up in recent years | ||
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On July 08 2020 18:10 Lexender wrote: Bunny is no Maru it seems No improbability field generator for teh Bunstah | ||
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Penev
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On July 08 2020 18:14 dbRic1203 wrote: Turns out with 3 CC, 2 E-bays you don t have units buildings scale even worse than roaches | ||
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sneakyfox
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Buildings vs units balance has been awful for years tbh. DK is so bad at his job. Ever since bunker build time nerf it's been completely onesided. | ||
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Penev
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On July 08 2020 18:16 sneakyfox wrote: Buildings vs units balance has been awful for years tbh. DK is so bad at his job. Ever since bunker build time nerf it's been completely onesided. terran should be able to crush units with their buildings, we have been asking for this for years now smh | ||
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ok its definitely off and im not mishearing things lol apparently alt tabbing out breaks youtube sound >< | ||
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sneakyfox
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On July 08 2020 18:19 Penev wrote: terran should be able to crush units with their buildings, we have been asking for this for years now smh Yeah I mean at least have some respect for fundamental laws of physics. Plus the animations would be way cool | ||
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pvsnp
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On July 08 2020 18:26 Circumstance wrote: Ragnarok tried to do a "What is up, I'm Nestea" on that Tank fortification, but it turns out he is not Nestea. This universe is already created, find your own Ragnarok. | ||
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yoshi245
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On July 08 2020 18:19 Penev wrote: terran should be able to crush units with their buildings, we have been asking for this for years now smh I really wish this was at least effective on those denial burrowed zerglings on mining bases for a CC to land in at the very minimum. Good work by Bunny overall, his play especially going to a more macro oriented TvZ looks pretty solid now. | ||
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Edit : I dunno, maybe I misunderstand and they are going to showcase some of the best finals, among which INno - Soulkey, in that case I can't say anything ofc | ||
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EDIT: Also Soulkey vs INno was actually super disappointing IMO. 3 stomps, then 3 cheeses, then the only actual good game in the series ending in a massive throw. Squirtle vs Mvp and MMA vs DongRaeGu are the only real acceptable answers. | ||
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On July 08 2020 18:33 Shuffleblade wrote: While I really like Ragnarok and the baneling heavy comps but the recent nerf to their damage really hurts if your style is throwing banelings into marauder and thor comps over and over. That style is not viable anymore, you need to get something else to take out the none light units. Zerglings gets mined and banelings do too little damage, Thors counter mutas too.. The solution is obviously just to make more banelings. | ||
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On July 08 2020 18:39 pvsnp wrote: The solution is obviously just to make more banelings. it's not like you can microbial shroud the bio to make up for the nerf | ||
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(if I'm not mistaken no forge for Trap) | ||
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No prism and lost like 3 templars for free E: NVM Zealots brought him back into it | ||
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On July 08 2020 18:53 yoshi245 wrote: Bunny just doesn't have the multi tasking to deal with Trap's aggression. I mean if he had just bulldozed through Trap during the zealot drop instead of coming home I think he wins | ||
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of course he's in a very fine position, but he butchered one in the previous game so I can't be too confident | ||
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On July 08 2020 19:02 Andi_Goldberger wrote: seems like trap should just never leave his base and wait for bunny to kill himself with attacks lol yeah exactly | ||
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On July 08 2020 19:06 pvsnp wrote: If Trap doesn't put a pylon in that blind spot at the back and Bunny kills him with a hellion drop...... I think Trap has it if he just plays a defensive game and waits for Bunny to be too wasteful with his drops / pushes | ||
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(though Trap doesn't seem too fazed) Edit : maybe a bit fazed after all ! | ||
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On July 08 2020 19:10 Lexender wrote: I can already see Bunny drop into 3 phoenixes  fortunately he got caught near his base, that wasn't even as bad as that could have been | ||
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Sometimes the double drop vs phoenixes is just the right move. | ||
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On July 08 2020 18:38 RPR_Tempest wrote: What's that track that plays when a player wins GSL? EDIT: Also Soulkey vs INno was actually super disappointing IMO. 3 stomps, then 3 cheeses, then the only actual good game in the series ending in a massive throw. Squirtle vs Mvp and MMA vs DongRaeGu are the only real acceptable answers. They go 1 by 1 with the good GSL finals. Jjakji vs Leenock, MMA vs DRG and Squirtle vs Mvp were covered previously. | ||
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On July 08 2020 19:14 NoS-Craig wrote: Holy shit massive gamble by Bunny pays off. Even after his first drop gets caught by 3 pheonix he just goes for another drop anyway. Ballsy play. yeah I'm pretty sure it works like one out of twenty times but God it worked so well... | ||
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On July 08 2020 19:14 [PkF] Wire wrote: Is Trap's PvZ still his shakiest ? Honestly I'd be very uncomfortable now as Trap, you could advance 1st place easy and now you have to either play the mad scientist Patience again or your worst mu, not the best situation... PvZ is every Protoss' weakest matchup and every Zerg's best. | ||
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On July 08 2020 19:14 Ej_ wrote: They go 1 by 1 with the good GSL finals. Jjakji vs Leenock, MMA vs DRG and Squirtle vs Mvp were covered previously. oh ok ! I thought it was that but I wasn't sure. Of course all those finals deserve a "great finals" spot | ||
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On July 08 2020 19:15 sudete wrote: Do you guys reckon bunny could ever win a premier tournament? I mean Sting won one. | ||
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On July 08 2020 19:15 sudete wrote: Do you guys reckon bunny could ever win a premier tournament? Could, sure, but he'll need to improve his TvT if he ever wants to win one in Korea. | ||
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TY Special Bunny Scarlett / Dream | ||
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On July 08 2020 19:15 Ej_ wrote: PvZ is every Protoss' weakest matchup and every Zerg's best. ZvP definitely is not Ragnarok's best matchup. | ||
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sudete
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I was there and I can hereby confirm it was one of the weakest line-ups I'd ever seen in any premier-tier tournament aside from a certain old WCG featuring Marineking* and Adelscott. The semifinals were Grubby vs Slivko and Sting vs Vortix. Everyone around was supporting Grubby, but only because they'd literally never heard of the other three. | ||
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On July 08 2020 19:18 Xain0n wrote: ZvP definitely is not Ragnarok's best matchup. It is the only in GSL where he even approaches 50% (even breaks it), but ok | ||
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darklycid
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On July 08 2020 19:20 Ej_ wrote: It is the only in GSL where he even approaches 50% (even breaks it), but ok Also aligulacs Form Ranking Puts it at 75% way above the Others. | ||
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On July 08 2020 19:15 [PkF] Wire wrote: yeah I'm pretty sure it works like one out of twenty times but God it worked so well... The phenoix where looking for that drop at the bottom to. They missed it by a few seconds. Bunny just waited until Traps Phoenix where on at his nat and prayed. | ||
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On July 08 2020 19:21 darklycid wrote: Also aligulacs Form Ranking Puts it at 75% way above the Others. It is both career wise and in the very recent matches, that's true, but Ragnarok kept getting eliminated by Protoss last yea, not the greatest spotlight for his best matchup. I don't remember him beating a top Protoss if not in weekly cups as well. | ||
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On July 08 2020 19:32 Xain0n wrote: It is both career wise and in the very recent matches, that's true, but Ragnarok kept getting eliminated by Protoss last yea, not the greatest spotlight for his best matchup. I don't remember him beating a top Protoss if not in weekly cups as well. if he doesnt win in this meta, hes not gonna win in any meta :D | ||
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On July 08 2020 19:38 sudete wrote: peak PvZ in 2020 you may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like seriously though, the state of the mu is horrendous | ||
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On July 08 2020 19:38 [PkF] Wire wrote: you may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like seriously though, the state of the mu is horrendous that S T R I D E v S H R O U D potential tho | ||
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having seen DTs stride into novas to their deaths I feel like I don't desire anything SC2 related anymore | ||
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Vindicare605
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On July 08 2020 19:36 Kuchikikun wrote: I should just switch off Twitch every time there's a PvZ.It's so frustrating to watch your race lose everytime or win with the only build that has a chance. He died to a desperate Nydus All In after getting super far ahead with it. What's to be upset about? Patience having a blind spot in his base or having an artosis pylon powering all of his production? It happens dude. Ragnarok got lucky, it happens. Stop making a balance complaint out of it. If you complain about balance over matches where balance CLEARLY wasn't the issue you aren't helping your cause at all, quite the opposite in fact. | ||
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On July 08 2020 19:41 [PkF] Wire wrote: having seen DTs stride into novas to their deaths I think like I don't desire anything SC2 related anymore we have seen too much old friend.. Although I would like to be amazed by someone making shroud actually be decisive in a match once still | ||
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The Universe is at times a glorious and awesome place. | ||
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On July 08 2020 19:47 darklycid wrote: I mean as a toss myself i don't even enjoy tosses winning currently in pvz (only when it is one of my fav players but then it's Just because they win). Yup, I feel exactly the same myself. | ||
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On July 08 2020 19:48 sudete wrote: The issue is that it doesn't even matter who wins in PvZ. It just looks awful either way That's been the state of PvZ since 2017. | ||
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On July 08 2020 19:54 royalroadweed wrote: That's been the state of PvZ since 2017. 2018 was alright (even tho Stats did alot for it to be :D) | ||
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Italy560 Posts
On July 08 2020 19:41 Vindicare605 wrote: He died to a desperate Nydus All In after getting super far ahead with it. What's to be upset about? Patience having a blind spot in his base or having an artosis pylon powering all of his production? It happens dude. Ragnarok got lucky, it happens. Stop making a balance complaint out of it. If you complain about balance over matches where balance CLEARLY wasn't the issue you aren't helping your cause at all, quite the opposite in fact. I'm just saying that it's months since most (at least 90%) of the protoss wins I've seen were adept all in and those are boring and repetitive.Almost every other game are a loss.That's my experience as a viewer,I'm not talking about balance. | ||
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On July 08 2020 20:04 Die4Ever wrote: did Ragnarok just let his overlord get killed right next to the high ground spike thing? There was an obs | ||
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Obviously Ragnarok is nowhere near the Level of Rogue, Dark, Serral, Reynor. But this was still promising today | ||
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Lexender
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On July 08 2020 20:22 darklycid wrote: How to win pvz macro: make the zerg Go full retard. What did Ragnarok did? He had a full surround, Trap simply used his force field and colossus very well. | ||
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On July 08 2020 20:24 Lexender wrote: What did Ragnarok did? He had a full surround, Trap simply used his force field and colossus very well. Wut? Rag wasted so many Units this game, had Upgrades too late, took dumb Fights and went for the great decision to Attack with no Upgrades ravager Bane Off creep in chokes vs Stalker sentry colossus. | ||
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stilt
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On July 08 2020 20:25 darklycid wrote: Wut? Rag wasted so many Units this game, had Upgrades too late, took dumb Fights and went for the great decision to Attack with no Upgrades ravager Bane Off creep in chokes vs Stalker sentry colossus. No the flank was nice and he had to attack to prevent the toss to reach the 200 pop while he was low on tech. | ||
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On July 08 2020 20:28 stilt wrote: No the flank was nice and he had to attack to prevent the toss to reach the 200 pop while he was low on tech. I mean it's Stalker colossus you can Just Tech vs that and defend while you have mutas, attacking it Off creep into a Defensive toss Position ist dumb esp. because Trap already Had 4 colossus. | ||
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best thing is that Juanito is back, he s been super hillarious the last times, he was there | ||
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On July 08 2020 20:29 darklycid wrote: I mean it's Stalker colossus you can Just Tech vs that and defend while you have mutas, attacking it Off creep into a Defensive toss Position ist dumb esp. because Trap already Had 4 colossus. 200 pop of stalker colo with 2 or 3 archons is still scary to deal with ravagers/bane, you generally need a second wave with your reprod which requieres a bit of time to set up un less you get a crushing fight with a 360. Ragnarok didn't have this much creep either so he couldn't allow it and decided to engage. As he lost, it was probably wrong but it is definetely not a full retard mode. Trap just played well, no need for his opponent to play bad. | ||
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dbRic1203
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On July 08 2020 20:34 Z3nith wrote: Who do we think is going to get picked last? Either Inno or Maru? Maybe Dark? Edit: Forgot Inno made the semis Not sure, if the top 4 seeds are based on GSL points or the top 4 of Season 1. Probably the points (wich are different from EPT points): On June 10 2020 23:28 AlphaXSushi wrote: Seeding table (one player from each tier per group) ![[image loading]](/staff/Waxangel/GSL/2020_21/codes2/season2seed.png) That would mean Maru is also top 4 seed instead of PartinG | ||
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On July 08 2020 20:37 stilt wrote: 200 pop of stalker colo with 2 or 3 archons is still scary to deal with ravagers/bane, you generally need a second wave with your reprod which requieres a bit of time to set up un less you get a crushing fight with a 360. Ragnarok didn't have this much creep either so he couldn't allow it and decided to engage. As he lost, it was probably wrong but it is definetely not a full retard mode. Trap just played well, no need for his opponent to play bad. Trap Played Well but he didn't do alot of Eco damage this game and only did light pressure mostly through the game, to lose that as zerg Takes alot of mistakes which Rag did imo (Like attacking too much with Bad armies/being way to wasteful with His Units while Not getting Tech/Upgrades even tho He Had the Eco). | ||
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- How much Dark gets shafted - can Scarlett keep her eyes open - .. etc | ||
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On July 08 2020 20:31 sneakyfox wrote: Big question today is whether TY wants Special in his group or not. First pick Special, build a group of life with him. Then swap him out and throw him to the wolves. | ||
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On July 08 2020 20:47 Elentos wrote: First pick Special, build a group of life with him. Then swap him out and throw him to the wolves. OUCH No protoss in the group seems like a good idea | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:02 Estraizher wrote: So do we ever actually got an official announcement of TY joining Afreeca Freecs other than suddenly appearing on final wearing the team shirt? He won the Code S in their shirt, that's your announcement | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:02 sneakyfox wrote: He won the Code S in their shirt, that's your announcement Now all they need to do is get Solar and the Splyce Bois will be reunited. | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:03 Z3nith wrote: Now all they need to do is get Solar and the Splyce Bois will be reunited. Would be great imo but I guess Solar would want to play in the GTC? | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:05 sneakyfox wrote: Would be great imo but I guess Solar would want to play in the GTC? Hey if Afreeca sign a chinese player they could do GTC. | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:06 Z3nith wrote: Hey if Afreeca sign a chinese player they could do GTC. The problem is that some of their stars would not be allowed to travel (soO, Stats) But I would love to see it happen still | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:07 sneakyfox wrote: The problem is that some of their stars would not be allowed to travel (soO, Stats) But I would love to see it happen still Ah I guess. It would be a sick team otherwise. Imagine soO, Stats, TY, Solar, DRG all on one team. | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:10 5ecured wrote: Is it just me, or does anyone else really enjoy the group nominations? For some reason I find it very entertaining and enjoyable lol I think they are just as entertaining as the games themselve :D | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:14 Penev wrote: Soo, which terran do you guys think will win the GSL this time around? #Bunny2020 | ||
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that would be great | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:21 Penev wrote: group of death decided Considering Dark always ends up screwing himself when he doesn't have the pick swap, yea group B is gonna get fucked. Parting is gonna end up there I think. | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:22 Lexender wrote: Better Dark than a protoss lmao. 4 terrans picking 4 zergs. Followed by 4 Zergs probably picking 4 Protoss. | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:23 Vindicare605 wrote: Followed by 4 Zergs probably picking 4 Protoss. This meta is the classic T>Z>P>T in steroids it seems. | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:25 Estraizher wrote: Zest with the glasses-mask breathing fog combo Better than puting your nose over the mask. | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:28 dbRic1203 wrote: Dream still up for grabs, while Zest and Dark are allready picked GTC MVP to scary for these guys | ||
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Actually no one wants to be with Maru lol. | ||
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e: oh damn, forget about Dream | ||
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CTC MVP or not | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:32 Shuffleblade wrote: My mind is blown, Trap complains about PvT and yet no terran wants to play protoss. Also really surprised no one wants to pick Bunny, is he really that strong right now. Stronger than Dark? O_O They're worried TY will swap him out if they do | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:32 Shuffleblade wrote: My mind is blown, Trap complains about PvT and yet no terran wants to play protoss. Also really surprised no one wants to pick Bunny, is he really that strong right now. Stronger than Dark? O_O Tbf pvt Looks kinda 50/50 recently while tvz Looks pretty solidly terran favored. I'd wanna Play zerg over toss then too. | ||
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Dear trolling Rogue is the best | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:33 NoS-Craig wrote: Hey wait did I miss something. Isn't PartinG supposed to be in Marus spot? He made the semis last season. Maru has more points over Parting, somebody posted the statistics a few pages back | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:37 SweetSerpentine1 wrote: Maru has more points over Parting, somebody posted the statistics a few pages back Oh, I thought it was the top 4 from the previous season. | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:40 yht9657 wrote: Ok so why does Dear hate Rogue He actually doesn't, they're good friends. But he's constantly trolling him anyway. | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:33 dbRic1203 wrote: Now Dark picks Dream right? CTC MVP or not Nah, Dark always picks Bunny. Edit: See? | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:40 Lexender wrote: The foreigners being so wholesome, the korans so jealous lol. And then there's Dark. Being in the exact scenario that was being described, not being bitter at all. | ||
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I expected Bunny to be reserved for Group A | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:46 Penev wrote: So A will become the group of foreigner deaths As is tradition | ||
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E: Dream is savage | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:47 SenorChang wrote: anyone know when ro16 will start being played? I think next Wednesday | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:47 SenorChang wrote: anyone know when ro16 will start being played? Group A next wednesday. | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:55 JustPassingBy wrote: Who are the 3 players that are left? parting rogue dream | ||
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And Juanito picked stats? I can see why TY is mad. edit: thanks btw! | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:56 mikedupp wrote: PartinG picked so late. Does he practice now so people are avoiding him? He made the Ro4 last season. | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:56 mikedupp wrote: PartinG picked so late. Does he practice now so people are avoiding him? Practicing to deal with Partings bullshit must be a pain in the ass. | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:56 Penev wrote: So TY's planning involved swapping Major? He can swap Stats like Juan said and have a nice and comfortable group you'd think. Pretty sure the plan was to swap Rogue/PartinG for Bunny. TY doesn't want to throw his friend and team mate into a group of death. | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:59 JustPassingBy wrote: Can somebody please explain what are the swapping rules are? (thx in advance!) TY can swap 1 player of his group with any other player, apart from Cure, Maru, Inno | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:59 JustPassingBy wrote: Can somebody please explain what are the swapping rules are? (thx in advance!) TY can swap someone in his group for a non-starting member of another group. | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:59 JustPassingBy wrote: Can somebody please explain what are the swapping rules are? (thx in advance!) winner of last season gets to do one swap of his choice edit: I love these arguments in the end to swap every time, so funny :D | ||
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On July 08 2020 21:58 sneakyfox wrote: Pretty sure the plan was to swap Rogue/PartinG for Bunny. TY doesn't want to throw his friend and team mate into a group of death. How considerate, TY is no Maru | ||
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It's also a way to punish Special for what he did. Let him deal with his own mess. | ||
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On July 08 2020 22:04 Lexender wrote: I like how TY and Special are such good friends no one is talking about swapping Special. Probably more that TY is the best at TvT and has said he doesn't like TvP at all. | ||
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On July 08 2020 22:04 sneakyfox wrote: Probably more that TY is the best at TvT and has said he doesn't like TvP at all. Special is his number 1 practice partner tho, in TvT that is always a mess. | ||
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On July 08 2020 22:11 pvsnp wrote: Wow A and B are so much easier than C and D. B is easy? Inno, Dark, PartinG? | ||
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I'm still skeptical about Parting tbh. I think people overrate him too much for narrowly beating Maru. TY showed that Parting is kind of a one trick pony. | ||
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On July 08 2020 22:13 NunedQ wrote: is bunny not much weaker than drg? especially for tvt master ty? Yeah probably. But that would put Stats with Inno, Dark, PartinG. | ||
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On July 08 2020 22:11 pvsnp wrote: Wow A and B are so much easier than C and D. B is harder than C I think | ||
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On July 08 2020 22:13 NunedQ wrote: is bunny not much weaker than drg? especially for tvt master ty? Not in this patch yeah, I said it | ||
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On July 08 2020 22:13 pvsnp wrote: I'm still skeptical about Parting tbh. I think people overrate him too much for narrowly beating Maru. Fair enough, but Solar and Ro16 doesn't line up well. And Trap is not exactly terrifying these days. Oh and Dream has something to prove yet even though he had a good day in GTC. Also, we don't know if Cure is broken from his finals loss. Zest is also very up and down these days, even though he's a top toss obviously. | ||
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On July 08 2020 22:15 sneakyfox wrote: Fair enough, but Solar and Ro16 doesn't line up well. And Trap is not exactly terrifying these days. Oh and Dream has something to prove yet even though he had a good day in GTC. Also, we don't know if Cure is broken from his finals loss. Zest is also very up and down these days, even though he's a top toss obviously. Rogue is also inconsistent rn | ||
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On July 08 2020 22:15 sneakyfox wrote: Fair enough, but Solar and Ro16 doesn't line up well. And Trap is not exactly terrifying these days. Oh and Dream has something to prove yet even though he had a good day in GTC. Also, we don't know if Cure is broken from his finals loss. Zest is also very up and down these days, even though he's a top toss obviously. I guess you have a point. My thinking was basically that the top 2 from A and B are both really easy to call, whereas C and D are less certain. Well actually, 2nd place in A is not too clear but it's an easy group regardless. | ||
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On July 08 2020 22:13 pvsnp wrote: I'm still skeptical about Parting tbh. I think people overrate him too much for narrowly beating Maru. TY showed that Parting is kind of a one trick pony. Sure but PartinG played atrocious without TY's help and still won 2 games. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
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I'm happy for DRG. I had this feeling he would get in TY's group, and since the champion has an insane advantage, he indeed crafted quite an easy group. I can see DRG getting his ro8, TY of course should be a lock for ro8. Superb group B. INno and Dark should be favorites, but hey PartinG was in the semifinals by beating Maru while INno and Dark got stuck in ro8 last season. It will be difficult for Bunny to exist here. Insane group. Maru, Solar, Trap are excellent reprensentants of their race, probably all top 3. And since Dream has been tearing it recently, well this group should give us some fireworks. And group D is just as insane, I mean Cure, Stats, Zest and Rogue who practices again ? Come on, it's so hard to predict who will advance. I love every group, ofc group A is weaker but the perspective of DRG or a foreigner in ro8 is very exciting. All in all : just can't wait ! | ||
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On July 08 2020 23:54 chuchutrain wrote: Seriously amazing groups, that banter from Special made it all super fun as well. Can't wait! Special did an amazing job basically picking a player as good as or better than him forcing stats to keep both him and scarlett which gives himself a good chance of getting out great job by special tactically! | ||
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On July 09 2020 00:12 La1 wrote: Special did an amazing job basically picking a player as good as or better than him forcing stats to keep both him and scarlett which gives himself a good chance of getting out great job by special tactically! I mean... it was the final draft round, by default every player left was at least as good as Special. And TY was never gonna swap him or Scarlett out anyway, he wanted both of them in his group. | ||
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On July 09 2020 00:12 La1 wrote: Special did an amazing job basically picking a player as good as or better than him forcing stats to keep both him and scarlett which gives himself a good chance of getting out great job by special tactically! I think he shot himself in the foot. The plan was probably to have him play Bunny, who should be an easier opponent for Special. | ||
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On July 09 2020 01:54 Argonauta wrote: Just saw Trap vs Ragna. P E R F E C T I O N coming from Trap. I second that. Really excellent PvZ. | ||
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I felt like it was mostly just poor play from ragna. His engagements and overall unit control felt very off to me. | ||
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On July 09 2020 03:33 Howard_Kao wrote: Does anyone know where to see the zest ceremony and rogue ceremony? That question in the interview really caught my attention I feel like it might've been a poor translation? maybe they meant style instead of ceremony? | ||
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On July 09 2020 03:33 Howard_Kao wrote: Does anyone know where to see the zest ceremony and rogue ceremony? That question in the interview really caught my attention They were referring to Zest lifting the IEM trophy with one hand in 2015 vs. Rogue struggling to hold it with both hands and having to awkwardly set it down in 2018. | ||
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Die4Ever
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On July 10 2020 09:53 S1ngularity wrote: They were referring to Zest lifting the IEM trophy with one hand in 2015 vs. Rogue struggling to hold it with both hands and having to awkwardly set it down in 2018. oh haha | ||
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On July 10 2020 09:53 S1ngularity wrote: They were referring to Zest lifting the IEM trophy with one hand in 2015 vs. Rogue struggling to hold it with both hands and having to awkwardly set it down in 2018. Oh that's what it was :D | ||
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