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[GSL 2020] Code S - RO24 - Group D

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Pandemona *
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-30 20:54:11
June 30 2020 17:49 GMT
#1

GSL Code S


Wednesday, Jul 01 9:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)Global StarCraft II League/2020/Season 2

Streams & Casters


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Artosis - Tasteless

Format

  • Group Stage #1 (Round of 24): Dual Tournament Format.

  • All matches are Bo3.

      Map Pool



Group D


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(P)Dear vs (Z)DRG
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(T)Dream vs (P)sOs

Results


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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 30 2020 17:50 GMT
#2
Poll: Who Advances?

DRG & sOs (9)
 
23%

Dream & DRG (8)
 
21%

sOs & Dear (8)
 
21%

Dear & Dream (6)
 
15%

sOs & Dream (6)
 
15%

DRG & Dear (2)
 
5%

39 total votes

Your vote: Who Advances?

(Vote): Dear & Dream
(Vote): DRG & sOs
(Vote): Dream & DRG
(Vote): sOs & Dear
(Vote): DRG & Dear
(Vote): sOs & Dream

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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
June 30 2020 19:22 GMT
#3
This has the potential to be one of the most disputed and interesting groups. DRG has been hyped a lot recently, Dream is in great shape while Dear and sOs are very hit or miss.

I voted DRG and Dream, feel free to call me crazy
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1359 Posts
July 01 2020 01:01 GMT
#4
DRG & sOs

and yes drg is in a good shape recently
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 01 2020 05:45 GMT
#5
How good is Dream these days? I'm confident $O$ will make it to the next round, but I'm very unsure who else will. I don't really think Dear has been very good for... well years actually.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
July 01 2020 06:02 GMT
#6
On July 01 2020 14:45 Mozdk wrote:
How good is Dream these days? I'm confident $O$ will make it to the next round, but I'm very unsure who else will. I don't really think Dear has been very good for... well years actually.

He destroyed Innovation and Dear just a few days ago at GTC, so I'd say his chances are good.

And sOs will always be an x factor in any tournament he plays in.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
July 01 2020 09:22 GMT
#7
I have little doubt that Dream will make it. Then there's kind of a close battle between the other three. Feels like DRG is favoured take it, if he has taken his preparation seriously - he will definitely have something for both the protosses and has done well in ZvP recently
Year of MaxPax
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
July 01 2020 09:30 GMT
#8
On July 01 2020 14:45 Mozdk wrote:
How good is Dream these days? I'm confident $O$ will make it to the next round, but I'm very unsure who else will. I don't really think Dear has been very good for... well years actually.

I would love to be so sure about sOs as you are. I'm rooting for that guy but he's so random he's impossible to predict.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 01 2020 09:34 GMT
#9
lets go sOs 2-0 4-0
~~~~~
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 01 2020 09:38 GMT
#10
I would love to see some of these blasts from the past do well but I'm guessing this group will have sOs and Dear go through (which I wouldn't mind either)
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 01 2020 09:42 GMT
#11
god I hate ling floods im cheering for Dear now
~~~~~
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
July 01 2020 09:45 GMT
#12
Did Dear just go AFK for 10 seconds wtf
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
July 01 2020 09:48 GMT
#13
I wonder which one makes people angrier - ling floods in LotV or roach ling bane all-ins back in WoL?
Year of MaxPax
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 01 2020 09:48 GMT
#14
I can't believe how many ling floods I've seen work recently (and the winrate of it has to be insane, I never see that strat lose).
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 01 2020 09:51 GMT
#15
On July 01 2020 18:48 sudete wrote:
I wonder which one makes people angrier - ling floods in LotV or roach ling bane all-ins back in WoL?

the original adept
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
July 01 2020 09:51 GMT
#16
Sling floods and Gladept pushes.
All the standard PvZ things.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 01 2020 09:52 GMT
#17
what the f*** is Dear doing ? That shade was horrendous
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 01 2020 09:52 GMT
#18
that's was such a late shade
I Protoss winner, could it be?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 01 2020 09:53 GMT
#19
DTs may have saved the day in fact, DRG has very weak eco
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 01 2020 09:54 GMT
#20
yeah no, Dear just got overwhelmed.
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 01 2020 09:54 GMT
#21
nice Nestea award, now get slapped - DRG
~~~~~
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
July 01 2020 09:55 GMT
#22
Oh Dear.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3559 Posts
July 01 2020 09:55 GMT
#23
Sometimes i really onder what is going on in Dears head, he should have won this so easily.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
July 01 2020 09:55 GMT
#24
DRG just absolutely bopped him. Not close.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 01 2020 09:55 GMT
#25
It's time for Derps alter ego, Dear, to manifest himself
I Protoss winner, could it be?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 01 2020 09:56 GMT
#26
OK feelin a lot more comfortable about my prediction if that's the Dear that shows up today. Let's see if sOs is Jekyll or Hyde today.
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1798 Posts
July 01 2020 09:56 GMT
#27
I've been so impressed by DRG the last few months and it feels like he's still improving a lot.

I forgot to make my prediction before the games but he's going to the quarterfinals this season
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
July 01 2020 09:56 GMT
#28
Like... Dear? hello?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 01 2020 09:57 GMT
#29
On July 01 2020 18:56 Zzzapper wrote:
I've been so impressed by DRG the last few months and it feels like he's still improving a lot.

I forgot to make my prediction before the games but he's going to the quarterfinals this season

I really believe in it. I've heard so much praise about his game from other progamers, it can't be just to please him. And since we know he's got insane competitive drive, if he can have one breakthrough performance...
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3559 Posts
July 01 2020 09:58 GMT
#30
Rly hope for Dear to find his non derp from in his break and bounce back.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 01 2020 10:07 GMT
#31
Was Dream going to proxy a Starport?
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1798 Posts
July 01 2020 10:10 GMT
#32
Btw, while we have had Nestea awards every seasons for a long time now, Dear's will be the last one for a while. The two next ones would be Zest and Impact who have 8 seasons in a row but they won't make it before they retire so the next potentials are Cure and Ragnarok in 2021 seasons 2 and 3, respectively.
Of course, the rewards had to slow down eventually, half of code S have them now
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
July 01 2020 10:13 GMT
#33
Its like Artosis and Tasteless completely forgot that Dream was on of the best terrans towards the end of hots and was an excellent player in pro league even occasionally coming out for the ace match on a team with inno, dark, classic and soo.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 01 2020 10:15 GMT
#34
On July 01 2020 19:13 royalroadweed wrote:
Its like Artosis and Tasteless completely forgot that Dream was on of the best terrans towards the end of hots and was an excellent player in pro league even occasionally coming out for the ace match on a team with inno, dark, classic and soo.

Artosis made an In-Depth last year about him I highly doubt he forgot about that, he loves Dream
~~~~~
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3152 Posts
July 01 2020 10:17 GMT
#35
Holy shit Dream. I haven't seen a 'pull the boys' work in a while.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 01 2020 10:18 GMT
#36
Dream had the advantage, but I think that was possible to hold from SoS. He could have brought 40 probes for the main fight and not used forcefields.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
July 01 2020 10:18 GMT
#37
The boys are back in town.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2974 Posts
July 01 2020 10:18 GMT
#38
Ballsy play by Dream, but amazing job making it work. Those tanks did a ton of damage sitting protected with all the bio and SCVs in the front.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 01 2020 10:19 GMT
#39
On July 01 2020 19:18 Mozdk wrote:
Dream had the advantage, but I think that was possible to hold from SoS. He could have brought 40 probes for the main fight and not used forcefields.

yeah I was thinking he should've pulled the girls
I Protoss winner, could it be?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
July 01 2020 10:19 GMT
#40
On July 01 2020 19:18 Mozdk wrote:
Dream had the advantage, but I think that was possible to hold from SoS. He could have brought 40 probes for the main fight and not used forcefields.

IMO not without archons or more colossi. The whole point of SCVs is to waste the charge and deal damage while only workers die. You need to evaporate the SCVs ASAP. This whole technique is based on the fact that the main damage dealers are chargelots and you turn them off.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 01 2020 10:20 GMT
#41
On July 01 2020 19:19 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2020 19:18 Mozdk wrote:
Dream had the advantage, but I think that was possible to hold from SoS. He could have brought 40 probes for the main fight and not used forcefields.

yeah I was thinking he should've pulled the girls


Is that what we're calling them now? Cool.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 01 2020 10:21 GMT
#42
On July 01 2020 19:20 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2020 19:19 Penev wrote:
On July 01 2020 19:18 Mozdk wrote:
Dream had the advantage, but I think that was possible to hold from SoS. He could have brought 40 probes for the main fight and not used forcefields.

yeah I was thinking he should've pulled the girls


Is that what we're calling them now? Cool.

ToD once called them that
I Protoss winner, could it be?
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
July 01 2020 10:21 GMT
#43
The TY special.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 01 2020 10:21 GMT
#44
This is just the perfect float-factory map.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 01 2020 10:21 GMT
#45
I cant believe this is gonna work on this map again in GSL :D
~~~~~
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
July 01 2020 10:21 GMT
#46
BO loss? well so much for sOs advancing.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 01 2020 10:23 GMT
#47
DTs did 0 damage? time to start blink
~~~~~
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 01 2020 10:23 GMT
#48
On July 01 2020 19:21 deacon.frost wrote:
BO loss? well so much for sOs advancing.


It's not a BO loss, when you lose because someone floats a factory in your main, and you fail to scout it.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 01 2020 10:23 GMT
#49
On July 01 2020 19:23 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
DTs did 0 damage? time to start blink

nah

let's go for S T R I D E
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 01 2020 10:24 GMT
#50
On July 01 2020 19:23 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2020 19:23 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
DTs did 0 damage? time to start blink

nah

let's go for S T R I D E

I meant DT blink :D I love this DT meta
~~~~~
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 01 2020 10:25 GMT
#51
On July 01 2020 19:24 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2020 19:23 Penev wrote:
On July 01 2020 19:23 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
DTs did 0 damage? time to start blink

nah

let's go for S T R I D E

I meant DT blink :D I love this DT meta

yeah I know I realized my post was confusing too late
I Protoss winner, could it be?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
July 01 2020 10:26 GMT
#52
On July 01 2020 19:23 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2020 19:21 deacon.frost wrote:
BO loss? well so much for sOs advancing.


It's not a BO loss, when you lose because someone floats a factory in your main, and you fail to scout it.

DTs were countered while Factory wasn't, sOs did 0 damage with a DT blink build, IMO a BO loss.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 01 2020 10:27 GMT
#53
Dream stopped upgrading. He's pulling boys again.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1798 Posts
July 01 2020 10:28 GMT
#54
its fucked up how there are like 1000 christmas songs but only 1 song aboutr the boys being back in town
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
July 01 2020 10:28 GMT
#55
Yeah, Artosis, Colossi don't do well against that many marauders.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3559 Posts
July 01 2020 10:29 GMT
#56
PvP losers match to see who brought his worse bad form today?
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
July 01 2020 10:29 GMT
#57
That glitch at the end felt like a Dream...
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
July 01 2020 10:29 GMT
#58
Still rough times for toss
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
July 01 2020 10:30 GMT
#59
That last game was brutal for sos. Unscounted factory in his base and dream build turrets in every base.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3152 Posts
July 01 2020 10:31 GMT
#60
Wasn't expecting Dream to win 2-0 against SoS. Two games in a row pulling the boys helps get the job done.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2661 Posts
July 01 2020 10:31 GMT
#61
On July 01 2020 19:29 stilt wrote:
Still rough times for toss


They're doing well this season.
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
July 01 2020 10:31 GMT
#62
On July 01 2020 19:28 Zzzapper wrote:
its fucked up how there are like 1000 christmas songs but only 1 song aboutr the boys being back in town


Quality over quantity. The one song about the boys being back in town is a certified banger while most Christmas songs are meh at best.
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 01 2020 10:31 GMT
#63
omg squirtle vs mvp highlight, this is sick
~~~~~
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3559 Posts
July 01 2020 10:32 GMT
#64
On July 01 2020 19:31 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2020 19:29 stilt wrote:
Still rough times for toss


They're doing well this season.

Zest beating Special and Stats beating Impact twice is doing Well?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
July 01 2020 10:33 GMT
#65
On July 01 2020 19:29 stilt wrote:
Still rough times for toss

Well, these two games were not exactly a good example Dream played well better than sOs and so was DRG against Dream.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
July 01 2020 10:34 GMT
#66
On July 01 2020 19:32 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2020 19:31 Lexender wrote:
On July 01 2020 19:29 stilt wrote:
Still rough times for toss


They're doing well this season.

Zest beating Special and Stats beating Impact twice is doing Well?


By Protoss standards, yes
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-01 10:36:53
July 01 2020 10:35 GMT
#67
This series isn't nearly as good as people say it is. There's the BC game and the crazy high stakes game 7 but the rest is meh
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 01 2020 10:35 GMT
#68
I miss the toilet
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 01 2020 10:37 GMT
#69
tasteless really liked saying OH MY GOD back then :D

I think just the BC game made it a sick one. then it was a GSL final going to 7 games and game 7 was so fucking genius :D I think it was great.
~~~~~
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 01 2020 10:40 GMT
#70
Gogogo DRG! Please advance!
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
July 01 2020 10:40 GMT
#71
On July 01 2020 19:34 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2020 19:32 darklycid wrote:
On July 01 2020 19:31 Lexender wrote:
On July 01 2020 19:29 stilt wrote:
Still rough times for toss


They're doing well this season.

Zest beating Special and Stats beating Impact twice is doing Well?


By Protoss standards, yes


I miss Classic and herO
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 01 2020 10:40 GMT
#72
eSF > kespaaaaaa gogo
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-01 10:43:32
July 01 2020 10:41 GMT
#73
pulling out the 4rax lmao

hahaha
~~~~~
mechzdeus
Profile Joined July 2018
88 Posts
July 01 2020 10:42 GMT
#74
yes
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
July 01 2020 10:43 GMT
#75
DongRaeGu was raised in GOMTvT, this means nothing to him
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 01 2020 10:43 GMT
#76
What the fuck was that strategy, nice hold DRG.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3152 Posts
July 01 2020 10:43 GMT
#77
LOl that's anti-climatic.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
July 01 2020 10:43 GMT
#78
On July 01 2020 19:43 RPR_Tempest wrote:
DongRaeGu was raised in GOMTvT, this means nothing to him


NEVER CHEESE THE DONG
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3559 Posts
July 01 2020 10:43 GMT
#79
On July 01 2020 19:40 Z3nith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2020 19:34 Teoita wrote:
On July 01 2020 19:32 darklycid wrote:
On July 01 2020 19:31 Lexender wrote:
On July 01 2020 19:29 stilt wrote:
Still rough times for toss


They're doing well this season.

Zest beating Special and Stats beating Impact twice is doing Well?


By Protoss standards, yes


I miss Classic and herO

The pain of relying on a weaker stats, trap whose pvz always fails him, and the likes of Zest, Dear or Parting who are inconsistent as fuck.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 01 2020 10:43 GMT
#80
DRG knew exactly what it was when he saw, and exactly how to react. Actually perfect.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1798 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-01 10:44:20
July 01 2020 10:43 GMT
#81
Is that proxy just too far away? If zerg can go for a third and still hold, does it ever win?
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
July 01 2020 10:44 GMT
#82
The winrate of 2rax/3rax vs zerg in tournaments has to be absolutely insane. I never see this strategy lose.

Now, 4 rax on the other hand...
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 01 2020 10:44 GMT
#83
On July 01 2020 19:43 Zzzapper wrote:
Is that proxy just too far away? If zerg can go for a third and still hold, does it ever win?


It also hits very late.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
July 01 2020 10:45 GMT
#84
On July 01 2020 19:43 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2020 19:40 Z3nith wrote:
On July 01 2020 19:34 Teoita wrote:
On July 01 2020 19:32 darklycid wrote:
On July 01 2020 19:31 Lexender wrote:
On July 01 2020 19:29 stilt wrote:
Still rough times for toss


They're doing well this season.

Zest beating Special and Stats beating Impact twice is doing Well?


By Protoss standards, yes


I miss Classic and herO

The pain of relying on a weaker stats, trap whose pvz always fails him, and the likes of Zest, Dear or Parting who are inconsistent as fuck.


Only one of them I have any faith in atm is Stats. You know Trap couldn't win a PvZ to save his life and like you say as soon as you start to root for Zest, Dear and PartinG they let you down.
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 01 2020 10:45 GMT
#85
time for DRG to cheese back so he 4-0s his group with only holding cheeses or cheesing :D
~~~~~
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1798 Posts
July 01 2020 10:47 GMT
#86
On July 01 2020 19:44 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2020 19:43 Zzzapper wrote:
Is that proxy just too far away? If zerg can go for a third and still hold, does it ever win?


It also hits very late.

Well, the idea of 4 rax is to hit a bit later than 2/3 (assuming you don't get scouted) so you have an overwhelming marine count by the time zerg realizes what's going on. But maybe a location that far away just makes it too late
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
July 01 2020 10:47 GMT
#87
That was a humorous jab at zerg.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 01 2020 10:48 GMT
#88
I love Tastosis.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
July 01 2020 10:49 GMT
#89
"You have reached your supply limit. Either wait 48 hours or build another pylon now for just $6.99"
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 01 2020 10:51 GMT
#90
On July 01 2020 19:45 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
time for DRG to cheese back so he 4-0s his group with only holding cheeses or cheesing :D

Danbo Roguefort Gouda ftw!
I Protoss winner, could it be?
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3152 Posts
July 01 2020 10:51 GMT
#91
Wow, after all that great damage he almost donates the BC.
Artosis loves Starcraft
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 01 2020 10:51 GMT
#92
oh well, looks like there will be a g3.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
July 01 2020 10:52 GMT
#93
Teleporting BCs never stopped being stupid.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 01 2020 10:58 GMT
#94
On July 01 2020 19:52 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Teleporting BCs never stopped being stupid.


It makes possibly the least sense of any StarCraft phenomenon
AdministratorBreak the chains
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
July 01 2020 11:08 GMT
#95
On July 01 2020 19:58 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2020 19:52 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Teleporting BCs never stopped being stupid.


It makes possibly the least sense of any StarCraft phenomenon

I ve no idear about SC lore, anyone here can explain how it works?
MaxPax
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
July 01 2020 11:10 GMT
#96
DRG's mutas get flaked on three sides. Tasteless: "DRG has such great map movement"
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 01 2020 11:10 GMT
#97
On July 01 2020 20:08 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2020 19:58 Zealously wrote:
On July 01 2020 19:52 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Teleporting BCs never stopped being stupid.


It makes possibly the least sense of any StarCraft phenomenon

I ve no idear about SC lore, anyone here can explain how it works?


I mean I suppose warping capital ships are a regular fixture in space opera/soft sci-fi (Warhammer, Stargate, Star Trek, BSG) so StarCraft is far from alone in having big ships teleporting, but it's really weird from a gameplay perspective. Never sat well with me design-wise.
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-01 11:12:48
July 01 2020 11:10 GMT
#98
On July 01 2020 20:08 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2020 19:58 Zealously wrote:
On July 01 2020 19:52 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Teleporting BCs never stopped being stupid.


It makes possibly the least sense of any StarCraft phenomenon

I ve no idear about SC lore, anyone here can explain how it works?


The only way for a spaceship to move between stellar systems on human timescales is to do so at faster than the speed of light (somehow). If you try to do the same over short distances like on a Starcraft map, that's basically teleport.

It follows logically that everything that is also capable of similar space travel should have the same ability. For example, every Zerg unit and most Protoss Stargate units.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
July 01 2020 11:12 GMT
#99
GG Dream, F yeah, he finally delivered in Code S
MaxPax
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 01 2020 11:12 GMT
#100
Really good job from Dream. Impressive stuff.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
July 01 2020 11:15 GMT
#101
Dream looks like he had some gains from the military.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
chuchutrain
Profile Joined May 2020
31 Posts
July 01 2020 11:15 GMT
#102
Pretty cool Winner's Game - although two one sided games and in the 3rd DRG lost his base too easily

Although it has to be said - seeing DRG on line bane muta brings good memories back
IndyO
Profile Joined June 2012
392 Posts
July 01 2020 11:16 GMT
#103
Best explanation for the 4 rax, just blame serral / zergs haha
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33664 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-01 11:16:53
July 01 2020 11:16 GMT
#104
Whew, glad to see Dream finally getting to the RO16.

I have to say, I don't think it was a great performance from him even if he got out of the group in first place. He's gonna get killed in the RO16 with that kind of play. I still don't think he's playing at his absolute best level in GSL Code S yet, compared to what he's shown us in some online evnets.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
chuchutrain
Profile Joined May 2020
31 Posts
July 01 2020 11:17 GMT
#105
On July 01 2020 20:16 IndyO wrote:
Best explanation for the 4 rax, just blame serral / zergs haha



Haha that was pretty jokes wasn't it
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
July 01 2020 11:18 GMT
#106
Wow, Prince got a shoutout, nice
MaxPax
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3559 Posts
July 01 2020 11:19 GMT
#107
OK dear pls Stop sucking now and advance, Ty.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 01 2020 11:20 GMT
#108
Very well done, Dream!
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-01 11:20:56
July 01 2020 11:20 GMT
#109
DRG and Dream have really mastered the "smoldering" expression.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 01 2020 11:23 GMT
#110
Hopefully Derp has been taken over by Dear at this point and sOs found his real self too
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 01 2020 11:30 GMT
#111
money stasis right there
~~~~~
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3559 Posts
July 01 2020 11:34 GMT
#112
Except for the stasis this was more Dear than derp.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 01 2020 11:36 GMT
#113
On July 01 2020 20:34 darklycid wrote:
Except for the stasis this was more Dear than derp.

yeah, looked sharp
I Protoss winner, could it be?
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3559 Posts
July 01 2020 11:38 GMT
#114
Never. fucking. mind.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 01 2020 11:39 GMT
#115
:D
I Protoss winner, could it be?
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3152 Posts
July 01 2020 11:39 GMT
#116
Well that's bad.
Artosis loves Starcraft
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3559 Posts
July 01 2020 11:39 GMT
#117
He will die to dts anyways.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3559 Posts
July 01 2020 11:40 GMT
#118
Ok derp back in town.
mechzdeus
Profile Joined July 2018
88 Posts
July 01 2020 11:40 GMT
#119
adept sick unit
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 01 2020 11:40 GMT
#120
peak sOs
~~~~~
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3152 Posts
July 01 2020 11:41 GMT
#121
DT into quick GG. Another great PvP.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 01 2020 11:47 GMT
#122
right, let's see if eSF can overcome the rematch curse
I Protoss winner, could it be?
chuchutrain
Profile Joined May 2020
31 Posts
July 01 2020 11:47 GMT
#123
PvP is just so... PvP
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
July 01 2020 11:47 GMT
#124
As I am still salty for the wcs 2013, I am always happy to see sOs loses
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3559 Posts
July 01 2020 11:47 GMT
#125
Ok pls Dear play well vs DRG.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
July 01 2020 11:47 GMT
#126
He had a few silvers but sos hasn't won gold since 2015.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3152 Posts
July 01 2020 11:48 GMT
#127
Alright Dear vs DRG lets go. I hope DRG can make it into the Ro.16
Artosis loves Starcraft
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 01 2020 11:48 GMT
#128
DRG has to win, we need more people with foreheads
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 01 2020 11:53 GMT
#129
If actual Dear shows up I still see him as the favorite, DRGs control didn't look all that good.

The Derp manifestation is strong today though.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3559 Posts
July 01 2020 11:54 GMT
#130
On July 01 2020 20:53 Penev wrote:
If actual Dear shows up I still see him as the favorite, DRGs control didn't look all that good.

The Derp manifestation is strong today though.

Yeah need game1 Dear vs sOs Dear here. Also i miss MC, MVP and Nestea being the trinity of Terran/Toss/Zerg *sniff*
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 01 2020 12:00 GMT
#131
On July 01 2020 20:53 Penev wrote:
If actual Dear shows up I still see him as the favorite, DRGs control didn't look all that good.

The Derp manifestation is strong today though.


The actual Dear turns 7 this fall and hasn't been seen in about as long
AdministratorBreak the chains
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
July 01 2020 12:03 GMT
#132
Losing an obs to a spore crawler is unacceptable for a pro player. Dear not on point.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 01 2020 12:04 GMT
#133
wait surely it wasn't 31 kespa + DRG in code S?!
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 01 2020 12:04 GMT
#134
Nope. And DRGs control ok that game as well
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 01 2020 12:07 GMT
#135
TL slow for anyone else?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
IndyO
Profile Joined June 2012
392 Posts
July 01 2020 12:08 GMT
#136
what did i just watch.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3152 Posts
July 01 2020 12:08 GMT
#137
Warp gate denied. That should be it unless a miracle happens.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-01 12:09:56
July 01 2020 12:09 GMT
#138
I cant decide whether I wanna feel a little better because I always lose to this shit and not even Dear holds this or really bad because not even dear holds this
~~~~~
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
July 01 2020 12:10 GMT
#139
What a great day for Protoss
Derp and sos both looked amazingly bad today ||||
MaxPax
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
July 01 2020 12:10 GMT
#140
Today was... a day of GSL I guess.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 01 2020 12:12 GMT
#141
Dream and DRG
Pleasantly surprised as I thought one of them would go down. Hail the returners !
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
July 01 2020 12:12 GMT
#142
Zerg'd
~~(,,ºº>
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3559 Posts
July 01 2020 12:13 GMT
#143
Watching pvz on pro level makes me kinda depressed ngl.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7325 Posts
July 01 2020 12:27 GMT
#144
lol i suck at Liquibets -.-
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
July 01 2020 12:39 GMT
#145
I knew I should have bet on DRG over Dear. I knew DRG was looking very good but didn’t know how awful Dear’s defense is
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
July 01 2020 13:13 GMT
#146
I had bet on Dear and sOs, but it was not an unpleasant surprise to see the returners advance instead.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
JTCC
Profile Joined June 2020
Netherlands21 Posts
July 01 2020 14:24 GMT
#147
I am really happy that DRG got through. He has always been one of my favourite players.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 01 2020 14:26 GMT
#148
On July 01 2020 23:24 JTCC wrote:
I am really happy that DRG got through. He has always been one of my favourite players.

same, I've always been really fond of the guy. I think he has the potential to get a ro8 if he gets a good group (which is possible since he seems to be rather feared in the Korean scene) !
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
July 01 2020 14:49 GMT
#149
On July 01 2020 23:26 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2020 23:24 JTCC wrote:
I am really happy that DRG got through. He has always been one of my favourite players.

same, I've always been really fond of the guy. I think he has the potential to get a ro8 if he gets a good group (which is possible since he seems to be rather feared in the Korean scene) !

Feared players don't get in good groups unless they're GSL champion.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
July 01 2020 15:30 GMT
#150
DRG and Dream<3
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
chuchutrain
Profile Joined May 2020
31 Posts
July 01 2020 16:10 GMT
#151
Never fond of Zergs, but I actually would be so happy if DRG managed to take the whole thing... when Gyuri/Translator said that he started his progamming career when Flash was still around, man this guy has been around for some time

Would make a great story - Top player > Military > champion again!
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 01 2020 16:15 GMT
#152
On July 01 2020 23:49 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2020 23:26 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 01 2020 23:24 JTCC wrote:
I am really happy that DRG got through. He has always been one of my favourite players.

same, I've always been really fond of the guy. I think he has the potential to get a ro8 if he gets a good group (which is possible since he seems to be rather feared in the Korean scene) !

Feared players don't get in good groups unless they're GSL champion.

that's true but he's not feared to the point you'd rather have Stats / Dark / Rogue / Maru / Zest / Trap in your group than him. So he'll probably end up in a group where one "really good" performance is enough to get ro8.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
July 01 2020 17:20 GMT
#153
DRG! That's the cinderella story I want to see.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
aringadingding
Profile Joined September 2010
481 Posts
July 01 2020 17:35 GMT
#154
Sad about the result, but not very surprised...
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
July 01 2020 18:16 GMT
#155
Super happy for Dream and DRG, they looked convincing respectively! A ro8 for Dream especially shouldn't be a stretch if he plays like this.

Also sOs is the most overrated player in the recent times in my opinion, even when he gets ro16 no one wants to pick him but in reality he ends up bombing out unconvincingly (if he hasn't done so already in ro32/24 like today). While he's made some finals and semis, it's been half a decade since his last premier win, so I just wish the whole "2-time world champion" narrative wouldn't be forced upon EVERY match he plays. I'm saying this as a fan of sOs, but it's just embarrassing to see him lose so one-sidedly after the whole "you literally cannot prepare against him" hype...
Mine gas, build tanks.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
July 01 2020 19:34 GMT
#156
Any good games from the night!
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Kuchikikun
Profile Joined March 2013
Italy560 Posts
July 01 2020 20:10 GMT
#157
On July 02 2020 04:34 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Any good games from the night!


If you like ling all ins,roach all ins,failed glaive adepts and scv pulls they were all good.If you don't you can skip today without a problem.

Watching PvZs as a protoss player is so demoralizing.
mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
July 01 2020 21:07 GMT
#158
On July 02 2020 05:10 Kuchikikun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2020 04:34 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Any good games from the night!


If you like ling all ins,roach all ins,failed glaive adepts and scv pulls they were all good.If you don't you can skip today without a problem.

Watching PvZs as a protoss player is so demoralizing.


I thought DRG Ve Dream game three wasn’t too bad at all but I was only able to half pay attention.

Happy DRG got through. I want to see what he can do with Lurker/Viper combo
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
July 02 2020 13:45 GMT
#159
Really happy DRG advanced. Really shocked that both Protosses didn't.
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