Nah Golden Wall will win because it has 25+ dedicated people coming to vote for it and turnout has dropped to about 30 votes per poll, so it'll just win on novelty.

Acrofales

Spain18445 Posts

August 21 2020 19:29 GMT

#343

On August 22 2020 04:23 Yonnua wrote:

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Nah Golden Wall will win because it has 25+ dedicated people coming to vote for it and turnout has dropped to about 30 votes per poll, so it'll just win on novelty.

I'll vote CK over GW, but I'll vote GW over daybreak. Although I do like daybreak.

Acrofales

Spain18445 Posts

August 21 2020 19:30 GMT

#344

I also voted Incineration Zone, because it is bad *and* ugly, whereas backwater gulch was just bad.

ZigguratOfUr

Iraq16955 Posts

August 21 2020 19:59 GMT

#345

Daybreak is not as good as Overgrowth or Whirlwind so I don't see why Golden Wall wouldn't beat it.

Cricketer12

United States14003 Posts

August 21 2020 20:09 GMT

#346

On August 22 2020 04:23 Yonnua wrote:

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Nah Golden Wall will win because it has 25+ dedicated people coming to vote for it and turnout has dropped to about 30 votes per poll, so it'll just win on novelty.

I didn't say it would have won. I'm saying it should have won. Also I'm surprised at no point an Anti Golden-Wall group rose up

lolfail9001

Russian Federation40190 Posts

August 21 2020 21:07 GMT

#347

GW beating Whirlwind is why democracy never leads to good decisions.

WombaT

Northern Ireland27394 Posts

August 21 2020 23:22 GMT

#348

On August 22 2020 06:07 lolfail9001 wrote:
GW beating Whirlwind is why democracy never leads to good decisions.

Blame the bracket or that we’re locked into head-to-heads. The Golden Wall juggernaut cannot he stopped!

Personally if I’m going off personal biases too I would have a top 4 consisting of the 2 best standard macro maps, the best 4 player map and the best non-standard map.

Alternatively a top 8 with the 5 best standard maps, the two best 4 player maps and the best non-standard map.

I’m sticking Cloud Kingdom because I have an unhealthy love for that map and tried to insist it be used in our Irish LANs instead of just mirroring the ladder pool for about 3 years. Whirlwind is clearly the best 4 player map and The Wall Most Golden is clearly the best non-standard map we’ve seen so far.

WombaT

Northern Ireland27394 Posts

August 21 2020 23:25 GMT

#349

On August 22 2020 05:09 Cricketer12 wrote:

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I didn't say it would have won. I'm saying it should have won. Also I'm surprised at no point an Anti Golden-Wall group rose up

How can anybody be anti Mur D’Or? :O

Cricketer12

United States14003 Posts

August 21 2020 23:53 GMT

#350

On August 22 2020 08:25 Wombat_NI wrote:

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How can anybody be anti Mur D’Or? :O

ask all the Overgrowth stans

Superouman

France2195 Posts

August 22 2020 08:36 GMT

#351

It's either nostalgia bias or recency bias which will win :p

MarianoSC2

Slovakia1855 Posts

August 22 2020 10:47 GMT

#352

Golden wall honestly has to win now that Overgrowth and KSS are out of the picture

leublix

493 Posts

August 23 2020 09:00 GMT

#353

How is Golden Wall making it so far? It's the most vetoed map of the last few months, I'm sure.

Acrofales

Spain18445 Posts

August 23 2020 09:55 GMT

#354

On August 23 2020 18:00 leublix wrote:
How is Golden Wall making it so far? It's the most vetoed map of the last few months, I'm sure.

Doubt it, Terran and Protoss both like it, and Zerg have to choose whether to veto Golden Wall or Submarine. And if we're talking both seasons it has been in the pool, it isn't even close. Purity and Industry got vetoed pretty much every series, and Zen wasn't too popular amongst pros either.

lolfail9001

Russian Federation40190 Posts

August 23 2020 10:02 GMT

#355

On August 23 2020 18:00 leublix wrote:
How is Golden Wall making it so far? It's the most vetoed map of the last few months, I'm sure.

It has stable voter turnout.

dbRic1203

Germany2655 Posts

August 23 2020 10:32 GMT

#356

On August 23 2020 18:00 leublix wrote:
How is Golden Wall making it so far? It's the most vetoed map of the last few months, I'm sure.

At this point this is only a question of recency bias vs nostalgia bias. There are 2 maps from 2011, one from 2013 and one from 2019. I think Golden Wall is a decent map and I m also salty that Abyssal Reef didn t get a deeper run, because of bad breaket luck. So I m going to vote for Golden Wall all the way to the End, just because I belive, that the maps today aren t significantly worse than half a decade ago.

Yoshi Kirishima

United States10382 Posts

August 23 2020 11:12 GMT

#357

Dang, I just saw this.

Too bad KSS lost to CK. CK is no doubt a great map, but even towards the end of its use we were realizing its flaws (maps were too small, CK included though the layout really helped compensate). The other reason is because Eternal Empire is basically a spiritual successor to CK, it has the same 3-4 base layout, but basically bigger and fit a few more bases in to fit LotV.

Well, there were a lot of maps I liked a lot, that didn't get far, so oh well.

I had to vote for Golden Wall because the design is very innovative. It is a new take on Shakuras Plateau, with brilliant solutions to solving flaws that are present in those kinds of maps. And overall, it is solid too.

Dingodile

4139 Posts

August 23 2020 13:53 GMT

#358

Daybreak is one of the three best maps. The biggest mistake there is the destructible rock in the middle. Once this is cleared (lategame), the game became utterly stale because all fights happened only from there then. an indestructible rock or wall should have been there.
There were A LOT amazing games (pace & movement) on that map until the rock in the middle was cleared, it changed to only boring fights the middle of the map until one won.