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Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
June 13 2020 12:04 GMT
#281
Besides not losing the 9 probes is there really much Stats could have done there?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-13 12:06:11
June 13 2020 12:05 GMT
#282
On June 13 2020 21:00 darklycid wrote:
Rly feels Like max vs Max a protoss Army is weaker than a terran one.

Depends on the army. Zest was maxed out but had no storm and only 1 disruptor. Yeah he had 3 colossi but he lost basically all their health before they started fighting. And because he's Zest a 3rd of his army was blink DTs that jumped into a scan.

Neither Stats nor Zest played a good series
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
June 13 2020 12:07 GMT
#283
On June 13 2020 21:00 darklycid wrote:
Rly feels Like max vs Max a protoss Army is weaker than a terran one.

Don't let the terran players hear you!
It appears I have been chosen.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
June 13 2020 12:11 GMT
#284
On June 13 2020 21:05 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2020 21:00 darklycid wrote:
Rly feels Like max vs Max a protoss Army is weaker than a terran one.

Depends on the army. Zest was maxed out but had no storm and only 1 disruptor. Yeah he had 3 colossi but he lost basically all their health before they started fighting. And because he's Zest a 3rd of his army was blink DTs that jumped into a scan.

Neither Stats nor Zest played a good series

Mmhm Just storm gets pretty Well negated by new Ghosts, that's why you See disruptors they poke away some terran supply so that your army can Clean Out the Rest.
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
June 13 2020 12:11 GMT
#285
On June 13 2020 21:05 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2020 21:00 darklycid wrote:
Rly feels Like max vs Max a protoss Army is weaker than a terran one.

Depends on the army. Zest was maxed out but had no storm and only 1 disruptor. Yeah he had 3 colossi but he lost basically all their health before they started fighting. And because he's Zest a 3rd of his army was blink DTs that jumped into a scan.

Neither Stats nor Zest played a good series



Also have to give the other side credit here.
Clem is looking mighty good in TvZ and TvP these days.
He is very good at microing fights as well as harassing with auto turrets/ mine drops at the same time.
I was also impressed by how he handled the basetrade scenario against Zest in G2. He stayed very calm under pressure.
Pursuit_
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States1330 Posts
June 13 2020 12:15 GMT
#286
On June 13 2020 21:07 Fyzar wrote:
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On June 13 2020 21:00 darklycid wrote:
Rly feels Like max vs Max a protoss Army is weaker than a terran one.

Don't let the terran players hear you!

I think most Terran players would 100% agree if the only thing happening is main army vs main army engagement, Bio Ghost Viking handily beats Stalker DT Collosi, especially when the Protoss move commands their army for like 10 seconds and loses their Collosi before the engagement even starts.
In Somnis Veritas
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-13 12:17:00
June 13 2020 12:15 GMT
#287
On June 13 2020 21:11 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2020 21:05 Elentos wrote:
On June 13 2020 21:00 darklycid wrote:
Rly feels Like max vs Max a protoss Army is weaker than a terran one.

Depends on the army. Zest was maxed out but had no storm and only 1 disruptor. Yeah he had 3 colossi but he lost basically all their health before they started fighting. And because he's Zest a 3rd of his army was blink DTs that jumped into a scan.

Neither Stats nor Zest played a good series

Mmhm Just storm gets pretty Well negated by new Ghosts, that's why you See disruptors they poke away some terran supply so that your army can Clean Out the Rest.

Well having storm is still better than having nothing. Obviously disruptors are better in the current meta and properly used they've done a good job in this tournament. That's why I'm saying it depends on the army. Zest's maxed army was pretty shit for fighting what Clem had (especially under a scan what with all the DTs ). If he had like 6 disruptors Clem is gonna have a hard time with that push. And to boot Zest wasn't paying attention so the colossi he had lost like 80% of their health before a fight and were useless.

I dunno Zest's army seems like one that should have been attacking and not defending.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
June 13 2020 12:24 GMT
#288
Not at all biased cast
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
June 13 2020 12:26 GMT
#289
Zest just played like a ladder scrub game 1 wow
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
June 13 2020 12:27 GMT
#290
On June 13 2020 21:24 Elentos wrote:
Not at all biased cast


You should learn french.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
June 13 2020 12:31 GMT
#291
On June 13 2020 21:26 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Zest just played like a ladder scrub game 1 wow

He always seems to play like that against uthermal.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-13 12:34:38
June 13 2020 12:34 GMT
#292
On June 13 2020 21:31 DBooN wrote:
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On June 13 2020 21:26 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Zest just played like a ladder scrub game 1 wow

He always seems to play like that against uthermal.

Not just against uThermal

Actually I feel like Zest doesn't really do well in cross server matches. I was a bit surprised he 3-0'd Reynor because of that.
On June 13 2020 21:27 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2020 21:24 Elentos wrote:
Not at all biased cast


You should learn french.

I had 7 years of French in school but I'm not gonna use that to watch O'Gaming
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
June 13 2020 12:39 GMT
#293
On June 13 2020 21:34 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2020 21:31 DBooN wrote:
On June 13 2020 21:26 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Zest just played like a ladder scrub game 1 wow

He always seems to play like that against uthermal.

Not just against uThermal

Actually I feel like Zest doesn't really do well in cross server matches. I was a bit surprised he 3-0'd Reynor because of that.
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2020 21:27 stilt wrote:
On June 13 2020 21:24 Elentos wrote:
Not at all biased cast


You should learn french.

I had 7 years of French in school but I'm not gonna use that to watch O'Gaming


Too bad, you're missing some of the best biaised casting toward T x)
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
June 13 2020 12:39 GMT
#294
Inno looking really sloppy, just clumping all his hellbats on top of morphing banelings.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
June 13 2020 12:40 GMT
#295
Man I'm not asking much just some splash damage for missile turrets so they actually do something against mutas that exceed a number of 12
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
June 13 2020 12:41 GMT
#296
On June 13 2020 21:39 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2020 21:34 Elentos wrote:
On June 13 2020 21:31 DBooN wrote:
On June 13 2020 21:26 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Zest just played like a ladder scrub game 1 wow

He always seems to play like that against uthermal.

Not just against uThermal

Actually I feel like Zest doesn't really do well in cross server matches. I was a bit surprised he 3-0'd Reynor because of that.
On June 13 2020 21:27 stilt wrote:
On June 13 2020 21:24 Elentos wrote:
Not at all biased cast


You should learn french.

I had 7 years of French in school but I'm not gonna use that to watch O'Gaming


Too bad, you're missing some of the best biaised casting toward T x)


Somewhere in the distance Le Marseillaise begins playing.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
June 13 2020 12:41 GMT
#297
On June 13 2020 21:39 DBooN wrote:
Inno looking really sloppy, just clumping all his hellbats on top of morphing banelings.

He also teleported like 3 BCs to fight 20 mutas and I think his attack might have actually worked if he didn't
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 13 2020 12:44 GMT
#298
On June 13 2020 21:40 Elentos wrote:
Man I'm not asking much just some splash damage for missile turrets so they actually do something against mutas that exceed a number of 12


Campaign turrets!
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
aringadingding
Profile Joined September 2010
481 Posts
June 13 2020 12:49 GMT
#299
On June 13 2020 06:45 ilax30 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2020 06:44 aringadingding wrote:
Innovation, clem and serral cant lose ofc, but not sure about solar vs uthermal. Solar is better. But terran is terran now.


Where is the clown emoij when I need one


well, would you look at that... ^^
My prediction was spot on, how strange.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
June 13 2020 12:54 GMT
#300
This was actually a very well played-out mech game from Inno, I'm impressed.
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