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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 04 2019 09:44 GMT
#41
oooo, mech switch
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 04 2019 09:45 GMT
#42
Two more factories - is this a mech switch?
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 04 2019 09:45 GMT
#43
On December 04 2019 18:40 Ej_ wrote:
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On December 04 2019 18:36 HolydaKing wrote:
TY not upgrading air weapons for so long was questionable since most of his army power seemed to be his BCs (and those attack quickly).

Also 2nd game he won quite convincingly tbh.

The game began with a successful 2rax and a failed bane bust followup. Then it took him 10 more minutes to finish Dark off.

To be fair, he only had like 4-6 banelings morphed and TY built and canceled a lot of stuff and pulled SCVs for a long time, but yes he had a lot of lings he didn't need at that point.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 04 2019 09:46 GMT
#44
On December 04 2019 18:40 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2019 18:36 HolydaKing wrote:
TY not upgrading air weapons for so long was questionable since most of his army power seemed to be his BCs (and those attack quickly).

Also 2nd game he won quite convincingly tbh.

The game began with a successful 2rax and a failed bane bust followup. Then it took him 10 more minutes to finish Dark off.


Not to mention the 25 drones that went down to BC/hellion harass.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12880 Posts
December 04 2019 09:49 GMT
#45
The 2rax wasn't that successful and the baneling bust wasn't that bad for Dark since TY had to invest so much and was supply blocked for a long time. Losing a lot of drones didn't help him that much but TY played like a beast, zerg still seems strong even after the patch (altho more beatable than before)

TY seems on fire these qualifiers, he might beat Dark even
WriterMaru
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 04 2019 09:55 GMT
#46
When the zerg is rich enough to kill thors with banes you kinda know which way things are heading.
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
December 04 2019 09:57 GMT
#47
Yesterday Dream beat Solar in Olimoleague finals, so I think TvZ is winnable and we shouldn t make balance assumptions this early into the new patch. Especially not watching the de facto best ZvT Player, Dark. He should be favoured against any Terran but Maru.
MaxPax
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 04 2019 09:57 GMT
#48
On December 04 2019 18:55 sneakyfox wrote:
When the zerg is rich enough to kill thors with banes you kinda know which way things are heading.

Big NesTea energy
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 04 2019 09:57 GMT
#49
For a commentator TY is doing plenty well against the best (KR) Zerg.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-04 09:58:25
December 04 2019 09:57 GMT
#50
On December 04 2019 18:57 dbRic1203 wrote:
Yesterday Dream beat Solar in Olimoleague finals, so I think TvZ is winnable and we shouldn t make balance assumptions this early into the new patch. Especially not watching the de facto best ZvT Player, Dark. He should be favoured against any Terran but Maru.

Maru was lucky to have been in the bottom bracket lol
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 04 2019 10:01 GMT
#51
TYTY back to the winning BO
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 04 2019 10:02 GMT
#52
Dark is crazy good. It is very hard to see what the Terran is supposed to do better than what TY did there. Consistently getting good eco damage done but still not far ahead. And as soon as he moves out, the runbys just pull him apart. Zerg can take so much economic damage and still be in a playable position. Giant maps I guess.

That said, we have seen similar things from Dark in the past. The real cockroach, just won't die.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 04 2019 10:03 GMT
#53
Hey - it seems they switched the brackets around! So TY will be going up against Zest/Armani.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 04 2019 10:04 GMT
#54
On December 04 2019 19:02 sneakyfox wrote:
Dark is crazy good. It is very hard to see what the Terran is supposed to do better than what TY did there. Consistently getting good eco damage done but still not far ahead. And as soon as he moves out, the runbys just pull him apart. Zerg can take so much economic damage and still be in a playable position. Giant maps I guess.

That said, we have seen similar things from Dark in the past. The real cockroach, just won't die.

You can say it was the economy, but Dark had equal or fewer bases past midgame (which obviously is better for the guy with MULEs). However, up until the ghosts came into play, he was ahead in resources lost which shouldn't happen in ZvT, but somehow it does with Dark playing ravagers.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 04 2019 10:09 GMT
#55
2rax is the best macro build
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 04 2019 10:10 GMT
#56
On December 04 2019 19:04 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2019 19:02 sneakyfox wrote:
Dark is crazy good. It is very hard to see what the Terran is supposed to do better than what TY did there. Consistently getting good eco damage done but still not far ahead. And as soon as he moves out, the runbys just pull him apart. Zerg can take so much economic damage and still be in a playable position. Giant maps I guess.

That said, we have seen similar things from Dark in the past. The real cockroach, just won't die.

You can say it was the economy, but Dark had equal or fewer bases past midgame (which obviously is better for the guy with MULEs). However, up until the ghosts came into play, he was ahead in resources lost which shouldn't happen in ZvT, but somehow it does with Dark playing ravagers.


Just too good I guess.

Also, it's not hard to see why Terrans consistently go for BCs in this matchup. Seems like by far the strongest opening.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 04 2019 10:15 GMT
#57
TY really trying to defend the corruptors with only cyclones.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 04 2019 10:19 GMT
#58
Yeah this is a sick series.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6929 Posts
December 04 2019 10:19 GMT
#59
Soooooo eveyone complains about Dark beeing unbeatable... and here we have TY, showing us how it's done! GJGJ TYTY. One more :D
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 04 2019 10:21 GMT
#60
Rax in main, gg
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