EPTpicked dear/classic but i already feel like ragnorak is getting out first ughhhhhh
[GSL 2019] Season 3 - Ro16 Group D - Page 2
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
picked dear/classic but i already feel like ragnorak is getting out first ughhhhhh | ||
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darklycid
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Slydie
1935 Posts
On September 07 2019 15:45 Lexender wrote: Protoss being the worst designed race really shows by having the worst mirror. I still saw a lot of different openings and tech options in pvp, though, I think zvz is around the same level if you are not a Zerg player. Zest's pvp was really impressive today! | ||
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Elentos
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Slydie
1935 Posts
On September 07 2019 16:35 Elentos wrote: Well Maru's road to the finals looks pretty free now. I am not so sure, his play looked sketchy at times in his group, and he is very beatable in both tvz and tvt. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On September 07 2019 17:34 Slydie wrote: I am not so sure, his play looked sketchy at times in his group, and he is very beatable in both tvz and tvt. He seems most vulnerable early, when he's in the later rounds doesn't he basically crush it? | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
predicting a TY vs Keen finals | ||
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Elentos
55571 Posts
On September 07 2019 17:34 Slydie wrote: I am not so sure, his play looked sketchy at times in his group, and he is very beatable in both tvz and tvt. He looked vulnerable in groups the 4 times he won GSL too. The only Terran on his side of the bracket is KeeN who should not advance another round. Maru's winrate against Zerg in best of 3+ series is nearly 90%. He's not that beatable. On September 07 2019 17:53 Schelim wrote: predicting a TY vs Keen finals Maybe you should go back to bed  | ||
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Quasarrion
60 Posts
Zest's pvp was really impressive today! Zest's pvp is always impressive. | ||
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Slydie
1935 Posts
On September 07 2019 17:44 Zambrah wrote: He seems most vulnerable early, when he's in the later rounds doesn't he basically crush it? Ragnarok just needs to figure out to win the proxyrax games, which will inevitably come and have been a wingrabber for Maru. Maru needs to figure out how to win tvz lategame, which I think is a lot more difficult. | ||
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Elentos
55571 Posts
On September 07 2019 19:05 Slydie wrote: Ragnarok just needs to figure out to win the proxyrax games, which will inevitably come and have been a wingrabber for Maru. Maru needs to figure out how to win tvz lategame, which I think is a lot more difficult. Do you think it's that easy to figure out? Because I don't. Maru's been doing those builds for a long time and he still wins most of the time. Because even if 2-rax doesn't do that much it's still fine to play things out. I don't think RagnaroK can just suddenly find the complete and total perfect shutdown for proxy 2-rax that nobody else has ever found, and do so in less than half a week. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26740 Posts
On September 07 2019 16:01 Slydie wrote: I still saw a lot of different openings and tech options in pvp, though, I think zvz is around the same level if you are not a Zerg player. Zest's pvp was really impressive today! It’s just a different mirror, they all have their merits to me nowadays, whereas in the past PvP was just kind of bad. Nowadays I like that it’s very strategic and improvisational, plus there are a lot of small unit skirmishes so Protoss can really micro their hearts out in a way that you can’t when armies approx max. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
Everyone to tired from watching WCS Montreal? | ||
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Slydie
1935 Posts
On September 07 2019 22:32 Nakajin wrote: Wow a 2 page GSL group? Everyone to tired from watching WCS Montreal? Bad time for both NA and EU, not even that great for Asia... | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On September 07 2019 16:35 Elentos wrote: Well Maru's road to the finals looks pretty free now. Classic had no chanches against Maru anyway, his PvT is relatively weak. TY not winning his group was what made Maru's road to the finals considerably easier; Ragnarok is a dark horse, I doubt he will eliminate Maru at all but his ZvT is nice and he is on the rise, he's the darkest of horses and he could surprise us. Classic has been underestimated for the majority of his career while this year he was actually overrated: I personally found he wasn't playing great Starcraft(Gumiho horribly threw the series at Super Tournament, for example, and he won most of his PvZ cheesing and abusing timing pushes), but Classic's results were still good and consistent enough to make him the best Protoss in Korea; he wasn't really superior to the pack, just the best among them, unlike many were saying. | ||
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Elentos
55571 Posts
On September 08 2019 01:27 Xain0n wrote: Classic had no chanches against Maru anyway, his PvT is relatively weak. I've been meaning to ask for a while, where do you take the extra h in chance from? Is that a thing in Italian or just an honest mistake? That aside I think there's a case for Classic to have been the worst PvT player in the group so I wasn't necessarily talking about him. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On September 08 2019 01:42 Elentos wrote: I've been meaning to ask for a while, where do you take the extra h in chance from? Is that a thing in Italian or just an honest mistake? That aside I think there's a case for Classic to have been the worst PvT player in the group so I wasn't necessarily talking about him. I am not even realizing I am writing that, I must have written it once and endlessly repeated due to autofill! Thank you for making me notice, Italian language has nothing to do with the extra h. Zest beating Maru in 2019? I don't think so. Dear might beat Maru in a weekender I guess, but in Code S...he wasted the best occasion he had. | ||
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Elentos
55571 Posts
On September 08 2019 01:51 Xain0n wrote: Zest beating Maru in 2019? I don't think so. Also I just realized you can turn a smiley into a link wow such technology. Anyway I just think Zerg players have a much worse shot than Protoss players against Maru. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On September 08 2019 02:06 Elentos wrote: Also I just realized you can turn a smiley into a link wow such technology. Anyway I just think Zerg players have a much worse shot than Protoss players against Maru. Not sure, they just have to play like MeokaikA. Maru loses to Protoss outside of Code S and slaughters them in Code S, I think Zerg may have a better chanCe. | ||
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Elentos
55571 Posts
On September 08 2019 02:12 Xain0n wrote: Not sure, they just have to play like MeokaikA. Maru loses to Protoss outside of Code S and slaughters them in Code S, I think Zerg may have a better chanCe. Meomaika only all-ins and I think Zerg all-ins against Terran are mostly pretty crappy. But Rag can be my guest and try to cheese Maru every game. That'd at least be something to laugh at. | ||
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