• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:39
CEST 11:39
KST 18:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202532Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder8EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced48BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ" Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation Serral wins EWC 2025
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced 2025 Season 2 Ladder map pool Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL] Non-Korean Championship - Final weekend
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 598 users

[GSL 2019] Season 3 - Ro16 Group D - Page 2

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-07 06:58:18
September 07 2019 06:56 GMT
#21
i was 0/2 on my last predictions. no idea what's going to happen here lol. amazing group tho
picked dear/classic but i already feel like ragnorak is getting out first ughhhhhh
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3510 Posts
September 07 2019 06:58 GMT
#22
Welp Dear vs Zest the age old Story of getting denied continues
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1919 Posts
September 07 2019 07:01 GMT
#23
On September 07 2019 15:45 Lexender wrote:
Protoss being the worst designed race really shows by having the worst mirror.


I still saw a lot of different openings and tech options in pvp, though, I think zvz is around the same level if you are not a Zerg player.

Zest's pvp was really impressive today!
Buff the siegetank
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
September 07 2019 07:35 GMT
#24
Well Maru's road to the finals looks pretty free now.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1919 Posts
September 07 2019 08:34 GMT
#25
On September 07 2019 16:35 Elentos wrote:
Well Maru's road to the finals looks pretty free now.


I am not so sure, his play looked sketchy at times in his group, and he is very beatable in both tvz and tvt.
Buff the siegetank
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7298 Posts
September 07 2019 08:44 GMT
#26
On September 07 2019 17:34 Slydie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2019 16:35 Elentos wrote:
Well Maru's road to the finals looks pretty free now.


I am not so sure, his play looked sketchy at times in his group, and he is very beatable in both tvz and tvt.


He seems most vulnerable early, when he's in the later rounds doesn't he basically crush it?
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
September 07 2019 08:53 GMT
#27
any good PvZs? slept through the whole group.

predicting a TY vs Keen finals
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-07 08:59:25
September 07 2019 08:58 GMT
#28
On September 07 2019 17:34 Slydie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2019 16:35 Elentos wrote:
Well Maru's road to the finals looks pretty free now.


I am not so sure, his play looked sketchy at times in his group, and he is very beatable in both tvz and tvt.

He looked vulnerable in groups the 4 times he won GSL too. The only Terran on his side of the bracket is KeeN who should not advance another round.

Maru's winrate against Zerg in best of 3+ series is nearly 90%. He's not that beatable.
On September 07 2019 17:53 Schelim wrote:
predicting a TY vs Keen finals

Maybe you should go back to bed
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Quasarrion
Profile Joined July 2018
60 Posts
September 07 2019 09:22 GMT
#29
Zest's pvp was really impressive today!


Zest's pvp is always impressive.
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1919 Posts
September 07 2019 10:05 GMT
#30
On September 07 2019 17:44 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2019 17:34 Slydie wrote:
On September 07 2019 16:35 Elentos wrote:
Well Maru's road to the finals looks pretty free now.


I am not so sure, his play looked sketchy at times in his group, and he is very beatable in both tvz and tvt.


He seems most vulnerable early, when he's in the later rounds doesn't he basically crush it?


Ragnarok just needs to figure out to win the proxyrax games, which will inevitably come and have been a wingrabber for Maru. Maru needs to figure out how to win tvz lategame, which I think is a lot more difficult.
Buff the siegetank
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-07 10:14:50
September 07 2019 10:14 GMT
#31
On September 07 2019 19:05 Slydie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2019 17:44 Zambrah wrote:
On September 07 2019 17:34 Slydie wrote:
On September 07 2019 16:35 Elentos wrote:
Well Maru's road to the finals looks pretty free now.


I am not so sure, his play looked sketchy at times in his group, and he is very beatable in both tvz and tvt.


He seems most vulnerable early, when he's in the later rounds doesn't he basically crush it?


Ragnarok just needs to figure out to win the proxyrax games, which will inevitably come and have been a wingrabber for Maru. Maru needs to figure out how to win tvz lategame, which I think is a lot more difficult.

Do you think it's that easy to figure out? Because I don't. Maru's been doing those builds for a long time and he still wins most of the time. Because even if 2-rax doesn't do that much it's still fine to play things out. I don't think RagnaroK can just suddenly find the complete and total perfect shutdown for proxy 2-rax that nobody else has ever found, and do so in less than half a week.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25318 Posts
September 07 2019 12:17 GMT
#32
On September 07 2019 16:01 Slydie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2019 15:45 Lexender wrote:
Protoss being the worst designed race really shows by having the worst mirror.


I still saw a lot of different openings and tech options in pvp, though, I think zvz is around the same level if you are not a Zerg player.

Zest's pvp was really impressive today!

It’s just a different mirror, they all have their merits to me nowadays, whereas in the past PvP was just kind of bad.

Nowadays I like that it’s very strategic and improvisational, plus there are a lot of small unit skirmishes so Protoss can really micro their hearts out in a way that you can’t when armies approx max.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
September 07 2019 13:32 GMT
#33
Wow a 2 page GSL group?
Everyone to tired from watching WCS Montreal?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1919 Posts
September 07 2019 15:27 GMT
#34
On September 07 2019 22:32 Nakajin wrote:
Wow a 2 page GSL group?
Everyone to tired from watching WCS Montreal?


Bad time for both NA and EU, not even that great for Asia...
Buff the siegetank
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
September 07 2019 16:27 GMT
#35
On September 07 2019 16:35 Elentos wrote:
Well Maru's road to the finals looks pretty free now.


Classic had no chanches against Maru anyway, his PvT is relatively weak.
TY not winning his group was what made Maru's road to the finals considerably easier; Ragnarok is a dark horse, I doubt he will eliminate Maru at all but his ZvT is nice and he is on the rise, he's the darkest of horses and he could surprise us.

Classic has been underestimated for the majority of his career while this year he was actually overrated: I personally found he wasn't playing great Starcraft(Gumiho horribly threw the series at Super Tournament, for example, and he won most of his PvZ cheesing and abusing timing pushes), but Classic's results were still good and consistent enough to make him the best Protoss in Korea; he wasn't really superior to the pack, just the best among them, unlike many were saying.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-07 16:43:42
September 07 2019 16:42 GMT
#36
On September 08 2019 01:27 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2019 16:35 Elentos wrote:
Well Maru's road to the finals looks pretty free now.


Classic had no chanches against Maru anyway, his PvT is relatively weak.

I've been meaning to ask for a while, where do you take the extra h in chance from? Is that a thing in Italian or just an honest mistake?

That aside I think there's a case for Classic to have been the worst PvT player in the group so I wasn't necessarily talking about him.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
September 07 2019 16:51 GMT
#37
On September 08 2019 01:42 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2019 01:27 Xain0n wrote:
On September 07 2019 16:35 Elentos wrote:
Well Maru's road to the finals looks pretty free now.


Classic had no chanches against Maru anyway, his PvT is relatively weak.

I've been meaning to ask for a while, where do you take the extra h in chance from? Is that a thing in Italian or just an honest mistake?

That aside I think there's a case for Classic to have been the worst PvT player in the group so I wasn't necessarily talking about him.


I am not even realizing I am writing that, I must have written it once and endlessly repeated due to autofill! Thank you for making me notice, Italian language has nothing to do with the extra h.

Zest beating Maru in 2019? I don't think so.
Dear might beat Maru in a weekender I guess, but in Code S...he wasted the best occasion he had.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-07 17:06:19
September 07 2019 17:06 GMT
#38
On September 08 2019 01:51 Xain0n wrote:
Zest beating Maru in 2019? I don't think so.



Also I just realized you can turn a smiley into a link wow such technology. Anyway I just think Zerg players have a much worse shot than Protoss players against Maru.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
September 07 2019 17:12 GMT
#39
On September 08 2019 02:06 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2019 01:51 Xain0n wrote:
Zest beating Maru in 2019? I don't think so.



Also I just realized you can turn a smiley into a link wow such technology. Anyway I just think Zerg players have a much worse shot than Protoss players against Maru.


Not sure, they just have to play like MeokaikA. Maru loses to Protoss outside of Code S and slaughters them in Code S, I think Zerg may have a better chanCe.

Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
September 07 2019 17:24 GMT
#40
On September 08 2019 02:12 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2019 02:06 Elentos wrote:
On September 08 2019 01:51 Xain0n wrote:
Zest beating Maru in 2019? I don't think so.



Also I just realized you can turn a smiley into a link wow such technology. Anyway I just think Zerg players have a much worse shot than Protoss players against Maru.


Not sure, they just have to play like MeokaikA. Maru loses to Protoss outside of Code S and slaughters them in Code S, I think Zerg may have a better chanCe.


Meomaika only all-ins and I think Zerg all-ins against Terran are mostly pretty crappy. But Rag can be my guest and try to cheese Maru every game. That'd at least be something to laugh at.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 21m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 259
StarCraft: Brood War
ggaemo 626
Larva 457
Zeus 273
Mong 198
ToSsGirL 183
hero 100
Soma 59
BeSt 54
NaDa 19
Sexy 17
[ Show more ]
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
Noble 8
Dota 2
XcaliburYe607
League of Legends
JimRising 508
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K692
Super Smash Bros
Westballz37
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor179
Other Games
singsing802
Happy264
SortOf199
Hui .120
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 2200
Other Games
gamesdonequick770
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 152
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH203
• LUISG 11
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV378
League of Legends
• HappyZerGling120
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
21m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2h 21m
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs TBD
WardiTV European League
6h 21m
ShoWTimE vs Harstem
Shameless vs MaxPax
HeRoMaRinE vs SKillous
ByuN vs TBD
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 4h
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
1d 6h
Wardi Open
2 days
OSC
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
HCC Europe
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.