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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
August 17 2019 15:47 GMT
#1381
Time to tune in to ... a foreigner ZvZ ? Ooohhhh FlaSh is online !

See ya
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
DreamlnCode
Profile Joined December 2018
United Kingdom77 Posts
August 17 2019 15:55 GMT
#1382
Wake me when it's 2020.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
August 17 2019 15:56 GMT
#1383
Haha, I remember some ppl saying that the ro16 pairings were to help some foreigners play in the later rounds. Maybe we should've been saying that the pairings helped some koreans appear in the later rounds
Archerylady
Profile Joined January 2011
277 Posts
August 17 2019 16:00 GMT
#1384
ZvZ is only behind TvZ as the best matchup. Many of the best games recently have been ZvZ: Serral vs Reynor at Montreal, Serral vs Rogue at Blizzcon, even Elazer vs Dark at this tournament. On the other hand we have TvT which sucks these days, and who wants to watch Protoss?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 17 2019 16:06 GMT
#1385
On August 18 2019 00:56 Azzur wrote:
Haha, I remember some ppl saying that the ro16 pairings were to help some foreigners play in the later rounds. Maybe we should've been saying that the pairings helped some koreans appear in the later rounds

Given the results it would indicate that the former may have been onto something
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
rasi86
Profile Joined July 2019
44 Posts
August 17 2019 16:11 GMT
#1386
On August 17 2019 23:38 Meeii wrote:
Well I will for sure not watch the final now.. really boring results.


Same for me. Has been a great tourney including the semis, but ZvZ finals are lame. Always the same....
Zerg is OP as hell. Blizzard, stop nerfing Toss!
MoDiV
Profile Joined July 2019
United States90 Posts
August 17 2019 16:21 GMT
#1387
On August 18 2019 01:06 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 00:56 Azzur wrote:
Haha, I remember some ppl saying that the ro16 pairings were to help some foreigners play in the later rounds. Maybe we should've been saying that the pairings helped some koreans appear in the later rounds

Given the results it would indicate that the former may have been onto something


just because the foreigners beat the Koreans, doesn't change the fact that they literally made the brackets to have some foreigners advance
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
August 17 2019 16:26 GMT
#1388
On August 18 2019 01:21 MoDiV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 01:06 Fango wrote:
On August 18 2019 00:56 Azzur wrote:
Haha, I remember some ppl saying that the ro16 pairings were to help some foreigners play in the later rounds. Maybe we should've been saying that the pairings helped some koreans appear in the later rounds

Given the results it would indicate that the former may have been onto something


just because the foreigners beat the Koreans, doesn't change the fact that they literally made the brackets to have some foreigners advance


Fact? Gyuri drew the brackets...
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
August 17 2019 16:41 GMT
#1389
I hope blizzard reconsiders the changes in the upcoming patch. Protoss is getting nerfed as it should but the nerfs are more PvZ focused which is obviously very Zerg favored now that they aren't dying to all-ins every game. The nerfs to Protoss barely effect PvT at all. Infested Terran nerf is nice and it will make a big difference for TvZ but PvZ lategame will still be an autowin if Zerg gets up to 20 infestors. These games were sad to watch.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 17 2019 16:58 GMT
#1390
On August 17 2019 23:33 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2019 23:25 Charoisaur wrote:
Does Serral supersede RorO/Sniper as the biggest BL/Infestor abuser?

Serral's use of BL-infestor right now is more akin to Maru's abuse of Raven-turtling in 2018—it's disgustingly strong in the right hands, but it's not OVERLY distorting SC2 competition by boosting the results of other, less capable players.

Meanwhile elazer's making the finals after not being an elite foreigner for two years.

Maru's use of the ravens isn't a great comparison, literally every tournament during that patch had terran do terrible in terms of representation (with maru winning on his own). Zerg right now is at least doing very good.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Velitey
Profile Joined September 2016
Canada13 Posts
August 17 2019 17:07 GMT
#1391
Oh yeah! EU ZvZ finals on Korean soil! HYPE. Best matchup in the game in my opinion.
terribleplayer1
Profile Joined July 2018
95 Posts
August 17 2019 17:09 GMT
#1392
The korean die hard fans need to take a deep breath, it's not the end of the world.

Maru got stats'd, you give Maru a road with only Z & T and then he'd either have to hit Serral or TY to have a chance at defeat.

Stats HAD to avoid PvP basically, he's favoured vs everyone else even Serral.

Dark got ZvZ'd, it's his worst MU, and EU ZvZ is STRONK, I think mostly from training with Serral.

So that's 3 of the strongest KR contenders basically getting really really bad bracket luck, the other top Koreans were all eliminated by... Serral, it looks one sided, but all you have to do is go back to ASUS ROG to see total korean domination ( Serral being the exception).

Honestly even after this tournament, if you were to rate the top 8 players, it'd be Serral #1 followed by 7 Koreans.

Plz calm down with the recency bias, GSL is still stronger than WCS.

AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
August 17 2019 17:09 GMT
#1393
Neeb v Elazer game 4 - Great fight, I recommend.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 17 2019 17:13 GMT
#1394
elazer with his 97/194 supply finally shining, 30 overlords per game is truly the highest skill era
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
August 17 2019 17:25 GMT
#1395
On August 18 2019 02:09 terribleplayer1 wrote:
Stats HAD to avoid PvP basically, he's favoured vs everyone else even Serral.

Isn't Stats's PvP supposed to be the strongest in the world?
terribleplayer1
Profile Joined July 2018
95 Posts
August 17 2019 17:28 GMT
#1396
Stats also lost to showtime, and Zest recently. He himself has said that Zest has better PvP than him.

I dont think Elazer had any chance vs Stats, if he makes it past Neeb....
Johny1
Profile Joined February 2019
Poland39 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-17 18:03:14
August 17 2019 17:51 GMT
#1397
Elazer said the true: we practice more
Easy as that. Watch Dark and soO games vs Elazer and Serral
Nothing to say more, atm gap between kr vs world is none.
And Serral himself is a pure talent and practise machine. I remember when he start to show up at eu scene. He was 0-3 by Nerchio all the time. Then it was 1-3 2-3 and after some time....boom 3-1 3-0 3-0 3-0. I was like wtf.....didnt know best sc2 player was born in from of my eyes.
SC-Shield
Profile Joined December 2018
Bulgaria835 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-17 18:54:56
August 17 2019 18:53 GMT
#1398
Team Elazer vs Team Serral tomorrow. Is that an archon game or a team game?

Edit: Ok, I've read https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/550637-elazer-and-serral-book-all-eu-final-at-gsl-vs-the-world
NotSoHappy
Profile Joined November 2010
445 Posts
August 17 2019 19:43 GMT
#1399
how???? wow
NotSoHappy
Profile Joined November 2010
445 Posts
August 17 2019 19:57 GMT
#1400
On August 17 2019 23:43 Edmon wrote:
After Serral wins this, I presume he still won't be #1 on the power rank... XD.


they didnt make powe rank after blizzcon just to not put serral at #1
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