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On August 18 2019 00:02 ParksonVN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2019 23:58 Xain0n wrote:On August 17 2019 23:53 Arrius wrote:
I guess it is time to find another game for tournaments to watch, EU ZvZ is the most boring shit ever and now even Korea is infected with Blizzard have no plans to fix this in the foreseeable future... That's such an embarassing first post, I think no one will miss you here. EU ZvZ is amazing, what the hell is this "infected" blabbering? "Yeah ZvZ is great", said no one ever, except a Serral and foreigner fanboy.
Except a lot of people in LotV? ZvZ sucked in HotS. It is arguably the best mirror in legacy behind maybe TvT. PvP is by far the worst. ZvZ has high variety high intensity matches. Heck go watch any Serral vs Reynor final or Dark vs Serral or Serral vs Rogue from Blizzcon or heck, even go back to Nerchio vs Dark from the first GSL vs the World. It's fantastic
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"It's the best mirror matchup behind one of the three mirror matchup."
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On August 18 2019 00:02 ParksonVN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2019 23:58 Xain0n wrote:On August 17 2019 23:53 Arrius wrote:
I guess it is time to find another game for tournaments to watch, EU ZvZ is the most boring shit ever and now even Korea is infected with Blizzard have no plans to fix this in the foreseeable future... That's such an embarassing first post, I think no one will miss you here. EU ZvZ is amazing, what the hell is this "infected" blabbering? "Yeah ZvZ is great", said no one ever, except a Serral and foreigner fanboy.
Kr scene is like the dead sea or what ? So much salt !
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On August 18 2019 00:05 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2019 00:04 M3t4PhYzX wrote:On August 18 2019 00:01 Xain0n wrote:On August 17 2019 23:54 Charoisaur wrote:On August 17 2019 23:52 M3t4PhYzX wrote:On August 17 2019 23:50 Charoisaur wrote:On August 17 2019 23:48 M3t4PhYzX wrote:On August 17 2019 23:43 Charoisaur wrote:On August 17 2019 23:42 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
First time in Starcraft history (21 years) that a top tournament (or any tournament, actually) in Korea/with koreans will not have any koreans in the Grand Final..
It finally happened.. history made. I was here.
Awesome stuff :D why is this awesome? are you kidding me right now? 21 years of korean domination, 21 years of at least one korean in any major finals with top koreans in it and you are asking me this? You would know why this is so awesome if you would follow BW from the start.. This is a historical moment. Glad that one of my fellow Polish players is right in the thick of it, too. Pure awesomeness. do you hate koreans? are you retarded? why else would it be a reason to celebrate that no players from a specific country are featured in the finals? Let me guess, maybe because that specific country totally dominated Starcraft in the last two decades? It's like, but to an even higher degree, what USA is in Basketball or New Zealand in Rugby. Nobody hates koreans, there are certain ones who venerate them as gods instead. EXACTLY. Everybody loves underdog stories.. and non-koreans beating koreans at StarCraft is an ultimate underdog story in e-sports. Yeah Serral was such an underdog here
The guy with 4 global tournament wins and widely regarded in KR as the best Zerg in the world is an underdog...only in your imagination. The biggest underdog in this tournament so far was Elazer. No one expected him to beat Neeb, let alone Dark.
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On August 18 2019 00:09 DieuCure wrote:
"It's the best mirror matchup behind one of the three mirror matchup."
TvT is probably good too but we'll never know.
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Rabid impressions of rabid SC2 consumerism prevent people from seeing that currently there is two constants in the game:
1. Serral performing "pretty well" (since spring 2018)
2. Korean scene taken as a whole surpass the foreign scene as a whole (since...)
No reasons for alarmistic attitudes from either scenes.
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On August 18 2019 00:12 UnLarva wrote:
Rabid impressions of rabid SC2 consumerism prevent people from seeing that currently there is two constants in the game:
1. Serral performing "pretty well" (since spring 2018)
2. Korean scene taken as a whole surpass the foreign scene as a whole (since...)
No reasons for alarmistic attitudes from either scenes.
Concise and precise. 
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On August 18 2019 00:07 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2019 00:02 ParksonVN wrote:On August 17 2019 23:58 Xain0n wrote:On August 17 2019 23:53 Arrius wrote:
I guess it is time to find another game for tournaments to watch, EU ZvZ is the most boring shit ever and now even Korea is infected with Blizzard have no plans to fix this in the foreseeable future... That's such an embarassing first post, I think no one will miss you here. EU ZvZ is amazing, what the hell is this "infected" blabbering? "Yeah ZvZ is great", said no one ever, except a Serral and foreigner fanboy. Do you see through your eyes or through your bias? I am definitely not the only one who likes the matchup. In LoTV ZvZ has evolved to be the best mirror; do you remember last BlizzCon, for example? Or maybe you want to tell me Elazer vs Dark wasn't entertaining? It's more like that you guys are in love with total korean dominations, there is Brood War for that; in sc2 foreigners are competitive after HoTS, you should come to accept it.
Elazer vs dark wasn't entertaining.
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Are you kidding? I love the series between Elazer & Dark. That series was very fun to watch.
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Id like to pop in and say I unironically enjoy ZvZ, some of my favorite series have been soO vs. Serral.
It might be because I grew up during GomTvT and thus despise Terran and conversely love Protoss, so Zerg hits that nice middle ground where Im not too invested in my racial preferences and get to enjoy Roach Wars. Blingling wars is too high adrenaline for me though, I'm all about the Roach war lifestyle.
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On August 18 2019 00:11 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2019 00:09 DieuCure wrote:
"It's the best mirror matchup behind one of the three mirror matchup." TvT is probably good too but we'll never know.
September 21 !
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On August 18 2019 00:08 Parrek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2019 00:02 ParksonVN wrote:On August 17 2019 23:58 Xain0n wrote:On August 17 2019 23:53 Arrius wrote:
I guess it is time to find another game for tournaments to watch, EU ZvZ is the most boring shit ever and now even Korea is infected with Blizzard have no plans to fix this in the foreseeable future... That's such an embarassing first post, I think no one will miss you here. EU ZvZ is amazing, what the hell is this "infected" blabbering? "Yeah ZvZ is great", said no one ever, except a Serral and foreigner fanboy. Except a lot of people in LotV? ZvZ sucked in HotS. It is arguably the best mirror in legacy behind maybe TvT. PvP is by far the worst. ZvZ has high variety high intensity matches. Heck go watch any Serral vs Reynor final or Dark vs Serral or Serral vs Rogue from Blizzcon or heck, even go back to Nerchio vs Dark from the first GSL vs the World. It's fantastic
I generally thought ZvZ sucked in SC2 (though you'd get interesting games here and there, like any matchup), and I think the series that decisively changed my mind was soO vs Dark sometime in the last couple years, but I don't remember exactly when/where.
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So, in this tournament, World vs Korea is 3-2(12-9) and Serral vs Korea 3-0(9-3) for a 6-2(21-11) aggregate; it almost never happens! Let's see if koreans strike down in the team competition at least, i'm expecting them to go 5-3.
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On August 18 2019 00:16 LTCM wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2019 00:07 Xain0n wrote:On August 18 2019 00:02 ParksonVN wrote:On August 17 2019 23:58 Xain0n wrote:On August 17 2019 23:53 Arrius wrote:
I guess it is time to find another game for tournaments to watch, EU ZvZ is the most boring shit ever and now even Korea is infected with Blizzard have no plans to fix this in the foreseeable future... That's such an embarassing first post, I think no one will miss you here. EU ZvZ is amazing, what the hell is this "infected" blabbering? "Yeah ZvZ is great", said no one ever, except a Serral and foreigner fanboy. Do you see through your eyes or through your bias? I am definitely not the only one who likes the matchup. In LoTV ZvZ has evolved to be the best mirror; do you remember last BlizzCon, for example? Or maybe you want to tell me Elazer vs Dark wasn't entertaining? It's more like that you guys are in love with total korean dominations, there is Brood War for that; in sc2 foreigners are competitive after HoTS, you should come to accept it. Elazer vs dark wasn't entertaining.
a true connoissur of the craft of stars solely enjoys thorough thrashings of the invaders of the holy land
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Month ago we wondered how he manage in his worst match up ZvP.
Kicking Protosses since then and only getting better after loss to Stats in Assembly.
Serral sees something to fix, Serral fix it. The storyline of his reign.
The Real upset would be Elazer capable of beating his Zerg Overseer. Good luck.
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Yeah ZvZ is pretty easily my favorite mirror matchup. And I like the other two.
Crazy results this tournament. So sad special didn’t win. Couldn’t watch the series, how was it?
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Bring the archon toilet back for a patch come on :p
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ZvZ sucked when people used to make 200+ supply of roaches and nothing else but now there's a lot of variation. It is actually very exciting to watch but the meme of ZvZ sucks has stayed.
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Region lock, endless balance change, biased foreign hyped commentary and so much more...You got what you wanted, are you satisfied?
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EPT
