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SeVpresty
Profile Joined May 2019
6 Posts
June 17 2019 07:42 GMT
#321
On June 17 2019 14:22 qwerty23455 wrote:
KZ gaming, as in Kingzone?

KZ, kaizi, rich guys. Some rich friends of SCBoy Xiaose found this team. Rumors: soo, innoation, maru, dark were their targets.
osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-17 09:36:30
June 17 2019 08:15 GMT
#322
On June 17 2019 16:42 SeVpresty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2019 14:22 qwerty23455 wrote:
KZ gaming, as in Kingzone?

KZ, kaizi, rich guys. Some rich friends of SCBoy Xiaose found this team. Rumors: soo, innoation, maru, dark were their targets.


Nah.. I think it's meant to be a joke. Most of these players are still on ongoing contracts, so it's not likely they can join another team before next Season begins
Maybe next year?
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
June 17 2019 08:44 GMT
#323
On June 17 2019 16:42 SeVpresty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2019 14:22 qwerty23455 wrote:
KZ gaming, as in Kingzone?

KZ, kaizi, rich guys. Some rich friends of SCBoy Xiaose found this team. Rumors: soo, innoation, maru, dark were their targets.

Pretty sure that was a on stream joke since the rich guy was donating at the time.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
xiaose1982
Profile Joined March 2012
China21 Posts
June 17 2019 11:09 GMT
#324
it's not joker. kaizi gaming want to best players.
osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
June 17 2019 11:39 GMT
#325
On June 17 2019 20:09 xiaose1982 wrote:
it's not joker. kaizi gaming want to best players.


Are you the real Xiaose? Do it, buy them all! LMAO
FBTsingLoong
Profile Joined April 2018
China410 Posts
June 17 2019 11:53 GMT
#326
On June 17 2019 20:39 osliang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2019 20:09 xiaose1982 wrote:
it's not joker. kaizi gaming want to best players.


Are you the real Xiaose? Do it, buy them all! LMAO


He is.
TyInnoMaruByunAlive,TIMBA
FBTsingLoong
Profile Joined April 2018
China410 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-18 10:15:07
June 17 2019 13:49 GMT
#327
All right we have a new team in this league now.Team BraveStar,with Cyan,Dream,and Hurricane as the members.
TyInnoMaruByunAlive,TIMBA
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-17 13:56:54
June 17 2019 13:56 GMT
#328
Really cool that this tournament seems to get even bigger. First season was really good and imo had the one of best offline parts of all chinese tournaments I've watched so far.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
June 17 2019 20:08 GMT
#329
Very nice! And great to see Dream's comeback is progressing.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
BasetradeTV
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Canada1307 Posts
June 18 2019 07:29 GMT
#330
On June 12 2019 23:50 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2019 22:30 BluestSEA wrote:
On June 12 2019 19:35 Elmonti wrote:
On June 12 2019 18:21 osliang wrote:
SCBOY and BaseTradeTV should have resolved the issue behind the scene.

Instead, BTTV decided to publicly humiliate SCBOY in front of hundreds of BTTV's fans, and tens of thousands of SCBOY's fans. This was a dick move IMO, or they were just being childish.

It triggered the Chinese Starcraft community so bad, from what i hear they don't want to have anything to do with BTTV anymore.


SCBOY shouldn't have restreamed BTTV, and after having done it, he should have apologised and asked for permission. BTTV's reaction is childish indeed, but they had every reason to complain. It's clear you guys have different opinions about copyright, piracy and that kind of stuff over there.


Let us look back to the guy who first mentioned this, who thought it was totally BTTV's fault. Obviously, it's really PR disaster to SCBOY because more and more people know this disgraceful thing.

Although I come from East Asian Continent, I won't use such reason, like culture different to defend SCBOY if I want to. No copyright awareness was no copyright awareness. At least, they have the broadcast rights and do something good to SC2.


I did not state it was BTTV's fault. In fact I think their reaction was justified and it was not cool for SCboy to simply assume everyone is OK with their restreaming (although the vast majority of Starcraft streamers were OK with it), it was what happened AFTER that is not appropriate (not going to elaborate and escalate this further, those who saw it know what I'm talking about). I got them together for a talk and SCboy wholeheartedly apologized and both parties agreed to move on, it really should be forgotten as an unfortunate incident and subsequently SCboy has mandated that all their broadcast and content will be fully permitted by the right holders.


I've only just been notified of this thread, and I'm a bit confused on some of the story elements here. My memory of events is as follows:

- SCBoy chose to pirate our stream
- We did retaliate by acknowledging them restreaming our content with a message that said, "Hello, Thief " in mandarin

(small note on this: To this day I've never understood how that was taken to be such a serious insult? If you deliver the mail, you're a mailman. If you steal somebody's work and pass it as your own, you're a thief?)

- We were filing a formal complain to blizzard
- digimouse reached out to me to act as a translator and liason to scboy to try and ease tensions
- SCBoy representative apologized to me in private conversation, and I offered to retract my complaint I was filing.

mostly ends here

- some time later I make a request to digimouse about contacting SCBoy to see if we can work together, and am told something along the lines of possibly in the future but it's probably best if we don't due to recent events

What exactly happened after that is not appropriate?
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ReZero
Profile Joined April 2019
United Kingdom29 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-18 08:27:58
June 18 2019 08:20 GMT
#331
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Because you said this.
ReZero
Profile Joined April 2019
United Kingdom29 Posts
June 18 2019 08:27 GMT
#332
On June 18 2019 17:20 ReZero wrote:
Because you said this.

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tensorUser
Profile Joined June 2019
3 Posts
June 18 2019 08:38 GMT
#333
On June 18 2019 16:29 BasetradeTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2019 23:50 digmouse wrote:
On June 12 2019 22:30 BluestSEA wrote:
On June 12 2019 19:35 Elmonti wrote:
On June 12 2019 18:21 osliang wrote:
SCBOY and BaseTradeTV should have resolved the issue behind the scene.

Instead, BTTV decided to publicly humiliate SCBOY in front of hundreds of BTTV's fans, and tens of thousands of SCBOY's fans. This was a dick move IMO, or they were just being childish.

It triggered the Chinese Starcraft community so bad, from what i hear they don't want to have anything to do with BTTV anymore.


SCBOY shouldn't have restreamed BTTV, and after having done it, he should have apologised and asked for permission. BTTV's reaction is childish indeed, but they had every reason to complain. It's clear you guys have different opinions about copyright, piracy and that kind of stuff over there.


Let us look back to the guy who first mentioned this, who thought it was totally BTTV's fault. Obviously, it's really PR disaster to SCBOY because more and more people know this disgraceful thing.

Although I come from East Asian Continent, I won't use such reason, like culture different to defend SCBOY if I want to. No copyright awareness was no copyright awareness. At least, they have the broadcast rights and do something good to SC2.


I did not state it was BTTV's fault. In fact I think their reaction was justified and it was not cool for SCboy to simply assume everyone is OK with their restreaming (although the vast majority of Starcraft streamers were OK with it), it was what happened AFTER that is not appropriate (not going to elaborate and escalate this further, those who saw it know what I'm talking about). I got them together for a talk and SCboy wholeheartedly apologized and both parties agreed to move on, it really should be forgotten as an unfortunate incident and subsequently SCboy has mandated that all their broadcast and content will be fully permitted by the right holders.


I've only just been notified of this thread, and I'm a bit confused on some of the story elements here. My memory of events is as follows:

- SCBoy chose to pirate our stream
- We did retaliate by acknowledging them restreaming our content with a message that said, "Hello, Thief " in mandarin

(small note on this: To this day I've never understood how that was taken to be such a serious insult? If you deliver the mail, you're a mailman. If you steal somebody's work and pass it as your own, you're a thief?)

- We were filing a formal complain to blizzard
- digimouse reached out to me to act as a translator and liason to scboy to try and ease tensions
- SCBoy representative apologized to me in private conversation, and I offered to retract my complaint I was filing.

mostly ends here

- some time later I make a request to digimouse about contacting SCBoy to see if we can work together, and am told something along the lines of possibly in the future but it's probably best if we don't due to recent events

What exactly happened after that is not appropriate?


Of course scboy was wrong. But when you printed "Hello, Thief" in mandarin on your screen, you actually chose to use an abusive method instead of a rational discussion, which deeply hurt scboy and Chinese watchers. I think you should understand that once you did this, you can never cooperate with scboy again. Needless to say you typed "Taiwan #1" in the chat zone of twitch, which is disrespect for politics in other countries.
kkapi
Profile Joined June 2019
China8 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-18 08:49:00
June 18 2019 08:39 GMT
#334
I think BTTV has been permanetly banned from casting any matches held in China. Scboy dare not take the political risk even if they want to improve relationship with BTTV.
BasetradeTV
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Canada1307 Posts
June 18 2019 09:04 GMT
#335
On June 18 2019 17:38 tensorUser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2019 16:29 BasetradeTV wrote:
On June 12 2019 23:50 digmouse wrote:
On June 12 2019 22:30 BluestSEA wrote:
On June 12 2019 19:35 Elmonti wrote:
On June 12 2019 18:21 osliang wrote:
SCBOY and BaseTradeTV should have resolved the issue behind the scene.

Instead, BTTV decided to publicly humiliate SCBOY in front of hundreds of BTTV's fans, and tens of thousands of SCBOY's fans. This was a dick move IMO, or they were just being childish.

It triggered the Chinese Starcraft community so bad, from what i hear they don't want to have anything to do with BTTV anymore.


SCBOY shouldn't have restreamed BTTV, and after having done it, he should have apologised and asked for permission. BTTV's reaction is childish indeed, but they had every reason to complain. It's clear you guys have different opinions about copyright, piracy and that kind of stuff over there.


Let us look back to the guy who first mentioned this, who thought it was totally BTTV's fault. Obviously, it's really PR disaster to SCBOY because more and more people know this disgraceful thing.

Although I come from East Asian Continent, I won't use such reason, like culture different to defend SCBOY if I want to. No copyright awareness was no copyright awareness. At least, they have the broadcast rights and do something good to SC2.


I did not state it was BTTV's fault. In fact I think their reaction was justified and it was not cool for SCboy to simply assume everyone is OK with their restreaming (although the vast majority of Starcraft streamers were OK with it), it was what happened AFTER that is not appropriate (not going to elaborate and escalate this further, those who saw it know what I'm talking about). I got them together for a talk and SCboy wholeheartedly apologized and both parties agreed to move on, it really should be forgotten as an unfortunate incident and subsequently SCboy has mandated that all their broadcast and content will be fully permitted by the right holders.


I've only just been notified of this thread, and I'm a bit confused on some of the story elements here. My memory of events is as follows:

- SCBoy chose to pirate our stream
- We did retaliate by acknowledging them restreaming our content with a message that said, "Hello, Thief " in mandarin

(small note on this: To this day I've never understood how that was taken to be such a serious insult? If you deliver the mail, you're a mailman. If you steal somebody's work and pass it as your own, you're a thief?)

- We were filing a formal complain to blizzard
- digimouse reached out to me to act as a translator and liason to scboy to try and ease tensions
- SCBoy representative apologized to me in private conversation, and I offered to retract my complaint I was filing.

mostly ends here

- some time later I make a request to digimouse about contacting SCBoy to see if we can work together, and am told something along the lines of possibly in the future but it's probably best if we don't due to recent events

What exactly happened after that is not appropriate?


Of course scboy was wrong. But when you printed "Hello, Thief" in mandarin on your screen, you actually chose to use an abusive method instead of a rational discussion, which deeply hurt scboy and Chinese watchers. I think you should understand that once you did this, you can never cooperate with scboy again. Needless to say you typed "Taiwan #1" in the chat zone of twitch, which is disrespect for politics in other countries.


I'm sorry but if somebody were to steal your wallet, would anyone sit there and calmly ask for it back as the thief ran away? Further more, watching them sell your wallet for 10x the value, would you whisper, "stop"? You can't justify an offense because it made the offender feel bad.

Regarding the Taiwan #1 comments, it'd be nice if there were more screen shots saved of the 30+ minutes of straight up harassment and attacks from scboy fans before my retaliation with a comment, so I guess I'll just have to apologize for retaliating after being attacked by Chinese fans for a prolonged period of time, I am sorry to disappoint the few level headed folks who didn't come to our chat spamming awful things in whatever language it was.

On June 18 2019 17:39 kkapi wrote:
I think BTTV has been permanetly banned from casting any matches held in China. Scboy dare not take the political risk even if they want to improve relationship with BTTV.


I mean that's their prerogative, I have never asked to cast anything after it was made clear they didn't want to work together, and my participation in this thread isn't anything along those lines either. In fact, I have no desire to work with them either after experiencing their extremely toxic fans harassing me for months.
Commentator
D1sGuise
Profile Joined December 2018
1 Post
June 18 2019 09:06 GMT
#336
There’s no doubt that BTTV is banned permanently.If you really hopes to cooperate with with SCBOY and your IQ is not negative,you are supposed to understand what “TW#1” means.Though I don’t deny that SCBOY was wrong when pirate your stream,but your political errors will never be forgiven.SCBOY never get back at anyone without reasonable explanation.They are enthusiastic,approachable and easygoing.

Moreover,who do you think your are?You are just foolish,ignorant,greedy and bumptious.Other streamers like Wardi,Crank and Take always help each other but you just want to destroy the hardwon harmony that they have created.

Remember this:You will eventually leave with nothing left.
BasetradeTV
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Canada1307 Posts
June 18 2019 09:09 GMT
#337
On June 18 2019 18:06 D1sGuise wrote:

Moreover,who do you think your are?You are just foolish,ignorant,greedy and bumptious.Other streamers like Wardi,Crank and Take always help each other but you just want to destroy the hardwon harmony that they have created.

Remember this:You will eventually leave with nothing left.


I mean, prove literally any of this?
Commentator
osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
June 18 2019 09:16 GMT
#338
SCBoy started this and they apologized. Let's just move on guys.
tensorUser
Profile Joined June 2019
3 Posts
June 18 2019 09:17 GMT
#339
On June 18 2019 18:09 BasetradeTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2019 18:06 D1sGuise wrote:

Moreover,who do you think your are?You are just foolish,ignorant,greedy and bumptious.Other streamers like Wardi,Crank and Take always help each other but you just want to destroy the hardwon harmony that they have created.

Remember this:You will eventually leave with nothing left.


I mean, prove literally any of this?


If you want to equally trade with others, you have to own the capital to do business. But what high-quality resources you have? None! So there's no need for scboy to talk to you any more.
BasetradeTV
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Canada1307 Posts
June 18 2019 09:23 GMT
#340
On June 18 2019 18:17 tensorUser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2019 18:09 BasetradeTV wrote:
On June 18 2019 18:06 D1sGuise wrote:

Moreover,who do you think your are?You are just foolish,ignorant,greedy and bumptious.Other streamers like Wardi,Crank and Take always help each other but you just want to destroy the hardwon harmony that they have created.

Remember this:You will eventually leave with nothing left.


I mean, prove literally any of this?


If you want to equally trade with others, you have to own the capital to do business. But what high-quality resources you have? None! So there's no need for scboy to talk to you any more.


Ok triggered Chinese fan, I appreciate your passion, but you're misplacing it.
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