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pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States282 Posts
June 19 2019 04:59 GMT
#361
On June 19 2019 13:18 BluestSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2019 03:55 pzlama333 wrote:
On June 19 2019 00:17 kubaPS wrote:
I wonder, if some of the transfer rumors will come true. There are not this many free agents in Korea. Maybe this league will lead to some fresh blood in the scene, would be great.


For a lot of rich Chinese team boss/investor who have interesting on esport, maintaining a SC2 team with one Chinese and two Korean is much cheaper than LoL or DotA.


I personally hope the match rule could be changed next season. Now, the team just need 3 players, a top one, a middle one, a Chinese one. Considering present situation, It's hard for Chinese players to play the role as top or middle one, even TIME.

In the long run, this is good for top players, but it does not expand the pool of players. I think it will be great if a team could have 4-6 players.


There is already a shortage of available teamless Chinese players for potential new team, and most existing players are not as good as TIME. Also, there isn't many teamless Korean too. Consider the match has to be played on either China or Korean server, I do not believe many European or American would join it.

For my point of view, 3 players are fine for right now. A team, at least, is a team and it will pay its players salary. If playing SC2 could be consider as a career and earn money, I believe it will attract more young players to join. Joining a team also give them a chance to learn from their high-skilled Korean teammates.

At last, because the regular season use a "best-of-two" format, though most Chinese players may not win a BO5 or BO3, a lot of them have the ability to take one map from their opponent, thus force a 1-1 draw and maybe even an ace match. So they still may play an important role for their team.

Of course I would like to see more players per team, and that is our goal in the future. At least we already have a good start.
BluestSEA
Profile Joined January 2016
19 Posts
June 19 2019 05:09 GMT
#362
On June 19 2019 13:48 creamlemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2019 13:27 BluestSEA wrote:
It's meaningless when you try to reach a consensus under the background you mentioned.
Not Mentioning and Moving on is much easier, compared with removing the background you mentioned.


Actually, the disscussion here is related to the topic, <Team league matches >

How do Wardi or TakeTV solve the issues ?

For example,
China_Team_League, Korean server, Wardi or TakeTV has its own OB
GPC, Chinese server(?) , there is a feed specifically for Wardi or TakeTV

Likewise, instead of not talking about it, do the good people has alternative method the solve the issue ?




As I know, Wardi or TakeTV re-steam GPC from douyu when it is offline in East Asian Continent. GPC is held officely by NetEase.
kubaPS
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany162 Posts
June 19 2019 05:34 GMT
#363
On June 19 2019 13:18 BluestSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2019 03:55 pzlama333 wrote:
On June 19 2019 00:17 kubaPS wrote:
I wonder, if some of the transfer rumors will come true. There are not this many free agents in Korea. Maybe this league will lead to some fresh blood in the scene, would be great.


For a lot of rich Chinese team boss/investor who have interesting on esport, maintaining a SC2 team with one Chinese and two Korean is much cheaper than LoL or DotA.


I personally hope the match rule could be changed next season. Now, the team just need 3 players, a top one, a middle one, a Chinese one. Considering present situation, It's hard for Chinese players to play the role as top or middle one, even TIME.

In the long run, this is good for top players, but it does not expand the pool of players. I think it will be great if a team could have 4-6 players.


Most of the teams already have 4-6 players: IG, OG, LP, TSG, PSISTORM and JAGW. There are already few players left without team in China/Korea and there will be probably one or two more teams for the next season.
But if the teamleague is doing well and will attract more fresh blood in the scene, they should maybe considere your idea in the future years.
AlexZhang1012
Profile Joined June 2019
63 Posts
June 19 2019 07:19 GMT
#364
I honestly think that IG should trade some of their Chinese players with other teams, because they need someone strong enough to act as their cornerstone. Also, players like (Wiki)iAsonu could really use a sparring partner. He could be so much stronger than right now IMO.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-19 11:32:52
June 19 2019 11:09 GMT
#365
Right now the trend is big name players being poached away from their current team. We already knew soO is currently in talks with the new KZ Gaming team, pretty sure there are other high profile moves in plans. But again, the options are limited, some older players will have reached the age that they are not allowed to leave the country due to military service.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
BluestSEA
Profile Joined January 2016
19 Posts
June 21 2019 05:48 GMT
#366
XIAOSE on his weibo said that new KZ Gaming offer a more $1000 wage than other teams to Innovation, which makes other teams silence.

I hope I could have rich friends too.
pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States282 Posts
June 21 2019 06:17 GMT
#367
On June 21 2019 14:48 BluestSEA wrote:
XIAOSE on his weibo said that new KZ Gaming offer a more $1000 wage than other teams to Innovation, which makes other teams silence.

I hope I could have rich friends too.


I'm surprised that the Kaize Gaming is a serious team but not a joke. Indeed the four bosses of KZ gaming are very rich, and I heard that the "poorest" of them has 6 billion RMB (equivalent as about one billion US dollars) in asset, and the richest is also Xiaose's cousin-in-law. I hope I may have such friends some day too.
But I'm not sure such bidding is good thing in the long run. Of course they have money, but they should not pay their players too many than they should earn in a healthy market. If they grab all the good players they want, the less skilled players may want a salary raise too. Other team may not have enough money to compete and they may quit eventually one day.
But anyway, they play terrible at CS:GO and DotA at least.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
June 21 2019 08:03 GMT
#368
Apparently Inno is in high demand.

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FBTsingLoong
Profile Joined April 2018
China410 Posts
June 21 2019 08:06 GMT
#369
On June 21 2019 15:17 pzlama333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2019 14:48 BluestSEA wrote:
XIAOSE on his weibo said that new KZ Gaming offer a more $1000 wage than other teams to Innovation, which makes other teams silence.

I hope I could have rich friends too.


I'm surprised that the Kaize Gaming is a serious team but not a joke. Indeed the four bosses of KZ gaming are very rich, and I heard that the "poorest" of them has 6 billion RMB (equivalent as about one billion US dollars) in asset, and the richest is also Xiaose's cousin-in-law. I hope I may have such friends some day too.
But I'm not sure such bidding is good thing in the long run. Of course they have money, but they should not pay their players too many than they should earn in a healthy market. If they grab all the good players they want, the less skilled players may want a salary raise too. Other team may not have enough money to compete and they may quit eventually one day.
But anyway, they play terrible at CS:GO and DotA at least.


I heard that they are willing to give Inno 10k dollars a month.
TyInnoMaruByunAlive,TIMBA
osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
June 21 2019 09:36 GMT
#370
On June 21 2019 17:06 FBTsingLoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2019 15:17 pzlama333 wrote:
On June 21 2019 14:48 BluestSEA wrote:
XIAOSE on his weibo said that new KZ Gaming offer a more $1000 wage than other teams to Innovation, which makes other teams silence.

I hope I could have rich friends too.


I'm surprised that the Kaize Gaming is a serious team but not a joke. Indeed the four bosses of KZ gaming are very rich, and I heard that the "poorest" of them has 6 billion RMB (equivalent as about one billion US dollars) in asset, and the richest is also Xiaose's cousin-in-law. I hope I may have such friends some day too.
But I'm not sure such bidding is good thing in the long run. Of course they have money, but they should not pay their players too many than they should earn in a healthy market. If they grab all the good players they want, the less skilled players may want a salary raise too. Other team may not have enough money to compete and they may quit eventually one day.
But anyway, they play terrible at CS:GO and DotA at least.


I heard that they are willing to give Inno 10k dollars a month.


$10,000/mth?? Jeez! :D It's better to be a popular player than the greatest player
xiaose1982
Profile Joined March 2012
China21 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-21 09:53:04
June 21 2019 09:50 GMT
#371
no, my friend rich as it is, but it's not a fool.
They will give a reasonable price to best players.
kubaPS
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany162 Posts
June 25 2019 13:53 GMT
#372
So soO will not join any other team, since he re-signed with Chivo:


The Starboy
Profile Joined May 2019
22 Posts
June 27 2019 06:48 GMT
#373
Official stream link pls
osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
June 27 2019 09:14 GMT
#374
On June 27 2019 15:48 The Starboy wrote:
Official stream link pls


See first post bro.
BluestSEA
Profile Joined January 2016
19 Posts
June 28 2019 05:11 GMT
#375
On June 25 2019 22:53 kubaPS wrote:
So soO will not join any other team, since he re-signed with Chivo:


XIAOSE said SOO asked for a $8000/month salary. So everyone lost interest.
xiaose1982
Profile Joined March 2012
China21 Posts
June 28 2019 05:19 GMT
#376
On June 28 2019 14:11 BluestSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2019 22:53 kubaPS wrote:
So soO will not join any other team, since he re-signed with Chivo:


XIAOSE said SOO asked for a $8000/month salary. So everyone lost interest.

I said it ? ????????Don't frame me ..
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-28 05:54:39
June 28 2019 05:53 GMT
#377
On June 28 2019 14:19 xiaose1982 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2019 14:11 BluestSEA wrote:
On June 25 2019 22:53 kubaPS wrote:
So soO will not join any other team, since he re-signed with Chivo:


XIAOSE said SOO asked for a $8000/month salary. So everyone lost interest.

I said it ? ????????Don't frame me ..


Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
June 28 2019 08:31 GMT
#378
On June 28 2019 14:11 BluestSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2019 22:53 kubaPS wrote:
So soO will not join any other team, since he re-signed with Chivo:


XIAOSE said SOO asked for a $8000/month salary. So everyone lost interest.


Please stop spreading misinformation you have been caught multiple times
BluestSEA
Profile Joined January 2016
19 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-29 11:29:32
June 29 2019 11:27 GMT
#379
On June 28 2019 17:31 osliang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2019 14:11 BluestSEA wrote:
On June 25 2019 22:53 kubaPS wrote:
So soO will not join any other team, since he re-signed with Chivo:


XIAOSE said SOO asked for a $8000/month salary. So everyone lost interest.


Please stop spreading misinformation you have been caught multiple times


Why do not you ask for XIAOSE shut his mouth down and leak no information any more?
xiaose1982
Profile Joined March 2012
China21 Posts
June 29 2019 12:41 GMT
#380
On June 29 2019 20:27 BluestSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2019 17:31 osliang wrote:
On June 28 2019 14:11 BluestSEA wrote:
On June 25 2019 22:53 kubaPS wrote:
So soO will not join any other team, since he re-signed with Chivo:


XIAOSE said SOO asked for a $8000/month salary. So everyone lost interest.


Please stop spreading misinformation you have been caught multiple times


Why do not you ask for XIAOSE shut his mouth down and leak no information any more?

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