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[GSL 2018] Season 3 - Grand Finals

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
September 13 2018 17:40 GMT
#1

GSL Season 3


Saturday, Sep 15 8:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)2018 Global StarCraft II League Season 3/Code S

Streams & Casters


uk Twitch GSL | uk Afreeca

Artosis - Tasteless

Format

  • Single-elimination playoffs.
  • Quarterfinals: Best-of-five.
  • Semifinals: Best-of-seven.
  • All 4 players who make it to this round are seeded in next season's Code .
  • Finals: Best-of-seven.

Map Pool



Grand Finals


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(T)Maru vs (T)TY


Results


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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-14 12:33:27
September 13 2018 17:40 GMT
#2
Poll: GSL Code S Season 3 Champion

Maru (71)
 
61%

TY (45)
 
39%

116 total votes

Your vote: GSL Code S Season 3 Champion

(Vote): Maru
(Vote): TY


Poll: Correct Score?

4-3 (18)
 
36%

4-2 (16)
 
32%

4-1 (10)
 
20%

4-0 (6)
 
12%

50 total votes

Your vote: Correct Score?

(Vote): 4-0
(Vote): 4-1
(Vote): 4-2
(Vote): 4-3

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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-13 18:16:53
September 13 2018 18:16 GMT
#3
TY TY TY TY.

Best terran of the expansion vs best terran of the year.
TL+ Member
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
September 13 2018 18:21 GMT
#4
On September 14 2018 03:16 DieuCure wrote:
TY TY TY TY.

Best terran of the expansion vs best terran of the year.

Cure isn't playing against himself though?
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 13 2018 18:27 GMT
#5
there can be only one
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-13 18:37:35
September 13 2018 18:35 GMT
#6
(T)Maru 4-3 (T)TY

Lots of potential with this finals. Crazy that this is the first TvT GSL finals since Mvp vs MMA. Best vs Second best Terran once again as well.

Result will be different though
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 13 2018 18:35 GMT
#7
I like both players, they are both probably around the same level in tvt, should be a good finals!
Cheering for the three-peat though, maru on the verge of making sc2 history!
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
September 13 2018 18:45 GMT
#8
On September 14 2018 03:35 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I like both players, they are both probably around the same level in tvt, should be a good finals!
Cheering for the three-peat though, maru on the verge of making sc2 history!


It's so hard to gauge relative levels with Maru... TY and GuMiho looked pretty evenly matched last season, I thought. But Maru just completely rekt Gumi. I think if Maru shows up in full form, he has to be considered the favourite, and even though it's hard to imagine because TY is really good and seems like he should be able to keep up, I honestly think there's a chance that Maru will flatly outclass him. But I'm hoping for some action-packed scrappy games!
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 13 2018 19:16 GMT
#9
On September 14 2018 03:21 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2018 03:16 DieuCure wrote:
TY TY TY TY.

Best terran of the expansion vs best terran of the year.

Cure isn't playing against himself though?


He is the best player.
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seopthi
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
391 Posts
September 14 2018 03:30 GMT
#10
I expect everything to be most dependent on TY's mindset. If he manages to play his A-game and not lose his head, he'll likely win. But it is well possible he might get shaken in the 4th or later set and play terribly.

I strongly think that for almost the whole LotV, TY's A-game is actually the best; it's rather about him having a weak mindset disallowing him to play to his full potential.

Of course, I am aware of the argument that it is part of what makes a player being a good one, my point is that his peak performance is the highest of all, with a relatively low median performance, while players like Maru or Dark might have a slightly lower peak, but a much higher median.
Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
September 14 2018 03:31 GMT
#11
Everyone is already basically calling it like Maru has already won this which is a bit silly. All I can say is if he loses, Serral should be rank 1 next power rank.

TY 4-2, but they're pretty neck and neck.
agsub
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore368 Posts
September 14 2018 04:22 GMT
#12
Saw how Maru easily crushed Gumigod and Zest... This should be a clear win for Maru. 4-1 Maru.
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
September 14 2018 04:40 GMT
#13
4 - 0 Maru

And If Serral gets rank 1 in the power ranking after Maru loses one match in a GSL all year while Serral barely beats unranked players in Montreal, I will delete my TL account (not an official bet so not against the rules to say this).
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2889 Posts
September 14 2018 04:41 GMT
#14
4-2 Maru. He's just on another level.

Proxy wars?
dummy1
Profile Blog Joined April 2018
420 Posts
September 14 2018 07:16 GMT
#15
I'm scared. Give me a doctor, please.
https://www.youtube.com/c/DepressingStarcraft <- Maru VODs and stuff | END REGION-LOCK NOW
buffzerg33
Profile Joined May 2017
96 Posts
September 14 2018 09:47 GMT
#16
Maru with hattrick. Code S + Code S + Code S.
KingKong of Koreans.
Serral is Godzilla of foreigners.
I really hope they do something like bo5 at Blizzcon!!!
It's a must have must see
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
September 14 2018 11:37 GMT
#17
Maru 4-0 TY. I really think Maru will pull the hattrick and crown his year with Blizzcon.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5589 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-14 12:08:05
September 14 2018 12:07 GMT
#18
TvT finals? Do I need to boot up the GOM Player?
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Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
September 14 2018 12:26 GMT
#19
On September 14 2018 13:40 Rodya wrote:
4 - 0 Maru

And If Serral gets rank 1 in the power ranking after Maru loses one match in a GSL all year while Serral barely beats unranked players in Montreal, I will delete my TL account (not an official bet so not against the rules to say this).

I don't see why Serral is like undefeated including vs Koreans and Maru, 4 in a row, but you think if Maru loses he would still be ahead when Serral already beat him in the H2H anyway
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 14 2018 12:27 GMT
#20
On September 14 2018 21:07 rotta wrote:
TvT finals? Do I need to boot up the GOM Player?


It's that or hope someone restreams it >_>
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-14 12:39:47
September 14 2018 12:35 GMT
#21
On September 14 2018 21:26 Dave4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2018 13:40 Rodya wrote:
4 - 0 Maru

And If Serral gets rank 1 in the power ranking after Maru loses one match in a GSL all year while Serral barely beats unranked players in Montreal, I will delete my TL account (not an official bet so not against the rules to say this).

I don't see why Serral is like undefeated including vs Koreans and Maru, 4 in a row, but you think if Maru loses he would still be ahead when Serral already beat him in the H2H anyway

I personally think the only way maru could and maybe should lose his first spot for the next PR is if TY wins this final rather easily and decisively. If not you have maru making code s finals three times in a row which is still insane even if he loses one. Code S is simply higher quality competition compared to wcs.
I agree though, serral is definitely a contender but in the end he lacks the results against the top, top lvl competition because he doesn't try in code s. Doing better than maru at blizzcon would do the trick though probably.


IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-14 12:38:57
September 14 2018 12:38 GMT
#22
On September 14 2018 21:26 Dave4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2018 13:40 Rodya wrote:
4 - 0 Maru

And If Serral gets rank 1 in the power ranking after Maru loses one match in a GSL all year while Serral barely beats unranked players in Montreal, I will delete my TL account (not an official bet so not against the rules to say this).

I don't see why Serral is like undefeated including vs Koreans and Maru, 4 in a row, but you think if Maru loses he would still be ahead when Serral already beat him in the H2H anyway

You really need to stop taking a bo1 showmatch seriously. You know Serral lost bo1s to uThermal and TLO not too long ago? Bo1s are garbage, let alone ones that aren't a real part of a tournament.

If Maru loses here you could make the argument for TY being #1, but no one else. It doesn't matter if Serral is undefeated when he isn't playing competition as hard as either Maru or TY are.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 14 2018 12:55 GMT
#23
On September 14 2018 21:38 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2018 21:26 Dave4 wrote:
On September 14 2018 13:40 Rodya wrote:
4 - 0 Maru

And If Serral gets rank 1 in the power ranking after Maru loses one match in a GSL all year while Serral barely beats unranked players in Montreal, I will delete my TL account (not an official bet so not against the rules to say this).

I don't see why Serral is like undefeated including vs Koreans and Maru, 4 in a row, but you think if Maru loses he would still be ahead when Serral already beat him in the H2H anyway

You really need to stop taking a bo1 showmatch seriously. You know Serral lost bo1s to uThermal and TLO not too long ago?

His loss to uThermal was 4 months ago and his loss to TLO, 5 months ago.
The loss to uThermal was also his last series lost at all.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-14 13:05:11
September 14 2018 13:04 GMT
#24
On September 14 2018 21:55 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2018 21:38 Fango wrote:
On September 14 2018 21:26 Dave4 wrote:
On September 14 2018 13:40 Rodya wrote:
4 - 0 Maru

And If Serral gets rank 1 in the power ranking after Maru loses one match in a GSL all year while Serral barely beats unranked players in Montreal, I will delete my TL account (not an official bet so not against the rules to say this).

I don't see why Serral is like undefeated including vs Koreans and Maru, 4 in a row, but you think if Maru loses he would still be ahead when Serral already beat him in the H2H anyway

You really need to stop taking a bo1 showmatch seriously. You know Serral lost bo1s to uThermal and TLO not too long ago?

His loss to uThermal was 4 months ago and his loss to TLO, 5 months ago.
The loss to uThermal was also his last series lost at all.

I know, the point is that a bo1 isn't a great judge of skill. I don't think Serral would not have lost any those if they were bo5 for example.

And if bo1s were played more often you can almost guarantee his winning streak wouldn't be as sick.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-14 13:43:10
September 14 2018 13:43 GMT
#25
I want this to both be one of the shortest GSLs in history by time and also play way more games than necessary. Let's say... 2 draws goes to game 7(9) but the whole thing ends in under an hour game time?
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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
September 14 2018 13:45 GMT
#26
I am so ready to watch some marines to get blown up by Siege Tanks.

Hoping the finals hit at least the two hour mark, but I feel like that's incredibly optimistic.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 14 2018 13:56 GMT
#27
On September 14 2018 12:31 Dave4 wrote:
Everyone is already basically calling it like Maru has already won this which is a bit silly. All I can say is if he loses, Serral should be rank 1 next power rank.

TY 4-2, but they're pretty neck and neck.

If Maru loses, Serral should be #3 in the next PR
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1209 Posts
September 14 2018 14:15 GMT
#28
gogo Maru!
SC2 LP Staff, Aligulac Editor, Tournament Organiser and Admin @KashimSC2
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 14 2018 18:04 GMT
#29
TY deserves a GSL win after playing both SCs for 10+ years. While Maru's triple GSL will be legendary achievement, I think TY's last year run was already miracle. He was robbed his WCS finals win by Rogue after getting reverse-swept, if he won he could get auto win vs. soO (knowing curse) making him IEM+WESG+WCS winner "Million Dollar Terran". So gogo TY!
sunbeams are never made like me...
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 14 2018 18:52 GMT
#30
On September 14 2018 22:56 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2018 12:31 Dave4 wrote:
Everyone is already basically calling it like Maru has already won this which is a bit silly. All I can say is if he loses, Serral should be rank 1 next power rank.

TY 4-2, but they're pretty neck and neck.

If Maru loses, Serral should be #3 in the next PR


This is exactly what I thought. Especially considering how much emphasis they put on recent results.

Nevertheless, if Maru does lose, they are making it Serral,Maru,TY.

PS. Gosu TY fighting !!!!
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 14 2018 20:22 GMT
#31
Maru
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
September 14 2018 20:23 GMT
#32
On September 14 2018 21:07 rotta wrote:
TvT finals? Do I need to boot up the GOM Player?

I'm going to watch in 140p just for the sake of nostalgia
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KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
September 14 2018 21:24 GMT
#33
Maru is just on another level once he enters in playoffs, I can't see him losing more than 2 games.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 14 2018 22:00 GMT
#34
I can't see Maru losing more than 4 games.
Athenau
Profile Joined March 2015
569 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-14 22:24:13
September 14 2018 22:23 GMT
#35
I'm looking forward to an absolute clown fiesta of a series!
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
September 14 2018 22:29 GMT
#36
Maru 4-1 with at least 2 proxies
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
September 14 2018 23:11 GMT
#37
On September 15 2018 07:29 Solar424 wrote:
Maru 4-1 with at least 2 proxies

At least 2 proxies buildings per game, more like.
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Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
September 15 2018 00:24 GMT
#38
On September 14 2018 21:26 Dave4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2018 13:40 Rodya wrote:
4 - 0 Maru

And If Serral gets rank 1 in the power ranking after Maru loses one match in a GSL all year while Serral barely beats unranked players in Montreal, I will delete my TL account (not an official bet so not against the rules to say this).

I don't see why Serral is like undefeated including vs Koreans and Maru, 4 in a row, but you think if Maru loses he would still be ahead when Serral already beat him in the H2H anyway

Look man, you obviously are brand new to SC2 so why don't you just calm down, I already responded to one of your posts in another thread.

Serral got dumpstered 0-3 by Maru at WESG, the only tournament that they've played each other in an official match. Before GSL vs The World, Serral's results versus Koreans range from awful to ro16 status. You are new to SC2 - that's okay, just stop acting like you aren't.
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5589 Posts
September 15 2018 00:54 GMT
#39
On September 15 2018 08:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 07:29 Solar424 wrote:
Maru 4-1 with at least 2 proxies

At least 2 proxies buildings per game, more like.

Mirror proxies please!
don't wall off against random
Mightydrago
Profile Joined September 2018
1 Post
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 01:02:58
September 15 2018 01:02 GMT
#40
I believe Maru will defeat the "Sun Terran" handily.


I see TY as the elder statesmen of Terran. He's like that old guy in the BC in the introduction video to BroodWar listening to the opera and shit while his Marines get slaughtered by zerglings. What I mean is, he has a refined style and godlike skill, but his outstanding characteristic is fast and precise decision making. He's the guy who beats Inno because he makes better split second decisions, with macro that's 95% as good as Innos.

Maru is a different breed. If you have been watching him since proleague you know what the real deal is here. My boy Maru, he's a fucking animal. He used to send a reaper and a hellion across the map and win games. Two units, GG. He is just too fast, too aggressive, and most of all he just enjoys the game too much, to not be the champ. He isn't sweating the small stuff like Gumiho or trying so hard like a robot Inno, and he doesn't have to think as much as TY, he's a natural, and he's going all the way this year.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
September 15 2018 01:40 GMT
#41
its too bad they couldn't have this series in Montreal's Olympic Stadium. That would be wild.
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Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
September 15 2018 02:34 GMT
#42
On September 15 2018 09:24 Rodya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2018 21:26 Dave4 wrote:
On September 14 2018 13:40 Rodya wrote:
4 - 0 Maru

And If Serral gets rank 1 in the power ranking after Maru loses one match in a GSL all year while Serral barely beats unranked players in Montreal, I will delete my TL account (not an official bet so not against the rules to say this).

I don't see why Serral is like undefeated including vs Koreans and Maru, 4 in a row, but you think if Maru loses he would still be ahead when Serral already beat him in the H2H anyway

Look man, you obviously are brand new to SC2 so why don't you just calm down, I already responded to one of your posts in another thread.

Serral got dumpstered 0-3 by Maru at WESG, the only tournament that they've played each other in an official match. Before GSL vs The World, Serral's results versus Koreans range from awful to ro16 status. You are new to SC2 - that's okay, just stop acting like you aren't.

I am not new and slandering in this fashion is against the tl rules so tread carefully.

You seem to be blatantly overlooking the GSL that Serral won recently for some reason. Probably because it goes against your Korean rules the world ideology.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 02:45:27
September 15 2018 02:44 GMT
#43
On September 15 2018 09:24 Rodya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2018 21:26 Dave4 wrote:
On September 14 2018 13:40 Rodya wrote:
4 - 0 Maru

And If Serral gets rank 1 in the power ranking after Maru loses one match in a GSL all year while Serral barely beats unranked players in Montreal, I will delete my TL account (not an official bet so not against the rules to say this).

I don't see why Serral is like undefeated including vs Koreans and Maru, 4 in a row, but you think if Maru loses he would still be ahead when Serral already beat him in the H2H anyway

Look man, you obviously are brand new to SC2 so why don't you just calm down, I already responded to one of your posts in another thread.

Serral got dumpstered 0-3 by Maru at WESG, the only tournament that they've played each other in an official match. Before GSL vs The World, Serral's results versus Koreans range from awful to ro16 status. You are new to SC2 - that's okay, just stop acting like you aren't.

Serral beat Maru 2-0 in an official match before that (I assume you meant offline). They're 3-3 in games this year

http://aligulac.com/results/search/?search=&after=&before=&players=Serral 485
Maru 49&event=&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 02:57:00
September 15 2018 02:53 GMT
#44
On September 15 2018 11:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 09:24 Rodya wrote:
On September 14 2018 21:26 Dave4 wrote:
On September 14 2018 13:40 Rodya wrote:
4 - 0 Maru

And If Serral gets rank 1 in the power ranking after Maru loses one match in a GSL all year while Serral barely beats unranked players in Montreal, I will delete my TL account (not an official bet so not against the rules to say this).

I don't see why Serral is like undefeated including vs Koreans and Maru, 4 in a row, but you think if Maru loses he would still be ahead when Serral already beat him in the H2H anyway

Look man, you obviously are brand new to SC2 so why don't you just calm down, I already responded to one of your posts in another thread.

Serral got dumpstered 0-3 by Maru at WESG, the only tournament that they've played each other in an official match. Before GSL vs The World, Serral's results versus Koreans range from awful to ro16 status. You are new to SC2 - that's okay, just stop acting like you aren't.

Serral beat Maru 2-0 in an official match before that (I assume you meant offline). They're 3-3 in games this year

http://aligulac.com/results/search/?search=&after=&before=&players=Serral 485
Maru 49&event=&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=


but that was online, played on the European server
(Wiki)IEM Season XII - World Championship/Server Qualifiers/Europe
"Server:Europe
Type:Online"

their match appears to have been played at 3am korean time

Maru also lost to TRUE 2-0 there, it doesn't mean much
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 03:06:53
September 15 2018 03:06 GMT
#45
On September 15 2018 11:53 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 11:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 15 2018 09:24 Rodya wrote:
On September 14 2018 21:26 Dave4 wrote:
On September 14 2018 13:40 Rodya wrote:
4 - 0 Maru

And If Serral gets rank 1 in the power ranking after Maru loses one match in a GSL all year while Serral barely beats unranked players in Montreal, I will delete my TL account (not an official bet so not against the rules to say this).

I don't see why Serral is like undefeated including vs Koreans and Maru, 4 in a row, but you think if Maru loses he would still be ahead when Serral already beat him in the H2H anyway

Look man, you obviously are brand new to SC2 so why don't you just calm down, I already responded to one of your posts in another thread.

Serral got dumpstered 0-3 by Maru at WESG, the only tournament that they've played each other in an official match. Before GSL vs The World, Serral's results versus Koreans range from awful to ro16 status. You are new to SC2 - that's okay, just stop acting like you aren't.

Serral beat Maru 2-0 in an official match before that (I assume you meant offline). They're 3-3 in games this year

http://aligulac.com/results/search/?search=&after=&before=&players=Serral 485
Maru 49&event=&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=


but that was online, played on the European server
(Wiki)IEM Season XII - World Championship/Server Qualifiers/Europe
"Server:Europe
Type:Online"

their match appears to have been played at 3am korean time

Maru also lost to TRUE 2-0 there, it doesn't mean much

I'm 100% aware but it still was an "official" match
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 15 2018 04:56 GMT
#46
Why am I not surprised this started with Rodya?
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 15 2018 05:08 GMT
#47
Dude needs his own tag or something so people know to avoid arguing.
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
September 15 2018 05:16 GMT
#48
If Maru wins this, he's going to be the first sc2 Bonjwa
RAPiDCasting
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (South)594 Posts
September 15 2018 05:37 GMT
#49
When do we get to start using the b-word?
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 05:53 GMT
#50
On September 15 2018 13:56 Circumstance wrote:
Why am I not surprised this started with Rodya?

You'd think that continously getting called out would temper even the most stubborn blockheads, but nope
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GreasedUpDeafGuy
Profile Joined August 2018
United States398 Posts
September 15 2018 06:01 GMT
#51
Maru 4-1, he proxy rax's 3 times, 2 are sucessful, one is not, series last a maybe 75 minutes. You're welcome
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Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
September 15 2018 06:09 GMT
#52
On September 15 2018 13:56 Circumstance wrote:
Why am I not surprised this started with Rodya?


Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
September 15 2018 06:13 GMT
#53
Lets go maruuuuuuuuuuuuu!
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 07:04:11
September 15 2018 07:00 GMT
#54
4-2 for TY I hope.

Do you guys think the games will be good? I got no idea how korean level TvT looks atm, but if some people here are right and it will be a proxy fest then I got my doubts.
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
September 15 2018 07:29 GMT
#55
Staying up for this, then hopefully a few hours of sleep before heading to my area's annual wine festival with my idiot friends. Yeahhhhh. Would love to see a TY win.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 15 2018 07:40 GMT
#56
On September 15 2018 16:00 HolydaKing wrote:
4-2 for TY I hope.

Do you guys think the games will be good? I got no idea how korean level TvT looks atm, but if some people here are right and it will be a proxy fest then I got my doubts.

proxy fest ? count me in
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Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 15 2018 07:53 GMT
#57
BRUH WHAT IS THIS PROTOSS REMIX THIS IS A BANGER
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 15 2018 07:58 GMT
#58
I am rdy to see Maru making history today, let's go!
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Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 15 2018 08:00 GMT
#59
here we go boys ! history will be made here tonight
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51461 Posts
September 15 2018 08:05 GMT
#60
OMG THEY USED THE B WORD
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 08:05 GMT
#61
TFW your cheese fails
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Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 15 2018 08:05 GMT
#62
fuck dude that intro was so sickkkk
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Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
September 15 2018 08:06 GMT
#63
Artosis is going to die inside if this is 4 proxy raxes in a row.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 15 2018 08:07 GMT
#64
Everyone is throwing the b word around, if he wins its undeniable at this point.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 08:07:31
September 15 2018 08:07 GMT
#65
On September 15 2018 17:06 Odoakar wrote:
Artosis is going to die inside if this is 4 proxy raxes in a row.

4-0 with all proxies? even I'd be upset if they were short games, and I love proxies lol
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DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
September 15 2018 08:07 GMT
#66
I hope they show good games. Go TY I guess!
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 15 2018 08:07 GMT
#67
On September 15 2018 17:07 Morbidius wrote:
Everyone is throwing the b word around, if he wins its undeniable at this point.

I think it's deniable until Blizzcon, if he wins blizzcon it's at that point undeniable
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 08:08 GMT
#68
Good to see the room so packed. Hope the finals move back to a bigger venue starting next season.
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Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
September 15 2018 08:09 GMT
#69
i like how maru always has that look of annoyed punk full of himself.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 08:09 GMT
#70
Maru holding back laughter when they mention the Asian Games Gold Medal lol
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Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 15 2018 08:10 GMT
#71
On September 15 2018 17:09 Die4Ever wrote:
Maru holding back laughter when they mention the Asian Games Gold Medal lol

I mean realistically, it was the easiest tournament of his life lmao
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Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
September 15 2018 08:10 GMT
#72
T H E H A I R
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 15 2018 08:10 GMT
#73
On September 15 2018 17:07 Psychonian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 17:07 Morbidius wrote:
Everyone is throwing the b word around, if he wins its undeniable at this point.

I think it's deniable until Blizzcon, if he wins blizzcon it's at that point undeniable

Blizzcon is like the epilogue of the season, with 8 foreigners in it. Maru has to win this to be bonjwa, if he wins Blizzcon yet loses here he won't get half the credit for it.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 08:11 GMT
#74
Fuck yeah it's GSL time!!
Everybody asleep in the flat, can watch the battle of titans peacefully :D
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 15 2018 08:11 GMT
#75
On September 15 2018 17:10 Psychonian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 17:09 Die4Ever wrote:
Maru holding back laughter when they mention the Asian Games Gold Medal lol

I mean realistically, it was the easiest tournament of his life lmao

Easiest big tournament run of probably anyone ever.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 08:11 GMT
#76
Maru is tiny lmao
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DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
September 15 2018 08:12 GMT
#77
Maru is a god. I really hope for the legend to keep growing and to win today. So serral vs maru becomes the dream final on blizzcon and its like a super ultimate clash of worlds of starcraft.
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Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 15 2018 08:12 GMT
#78
maru's proxy truly has ascended into meme status
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 15 2018 08:12 GMT
#79
just realized that it's maru's third straight gsl final holy batman
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 08:12 GMT
#80
LOL TY
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1796 Posts
September 15 2018 08:13 GMT
#81
here's to a 7 game series with 10+ proxies
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 15 2018 08:14 GMT
#82
this is a ridiculous interview

"I'm gonna proxy you!"

"Oh yeah well Im gonna proxy YOU!"

"Well I'm gonna proxy you MORE"
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 15 2018 08:14 GMT
#83
On September 15 2018 17:14 Psychonian wrote:
this is a ridiculous interview

"I'm gonna proxy you!"

"Oh yeah well Im gonna proxy YOU!"

"Well I'm gonna proxy you MORE"

PROXYCEPTION
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5589 Posts
September 15 2018 08:15 GMT
#84
And now both only play macro games.
don't wall off against random
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 15 2018 08:15 GMT
#85
Rakshir can't be a more fitting name for the season. TY is challenging Maru, the highlord of terran, to Rakshir.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 08:17:22
September 15 2018 08:15 GMT
#86
On September 15 2018 17:07 Psychonian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 17:07 Morbidius wrote:
Everyone is throwing the b word around, if he wins its undeniable at this point.

I think it's deniable until Blizzcon, if he wins blizzcon it's at that point undeniable

if winning 3 GSLs in a row doesn't make you a bonjwa then there hasn't been a bonjwa yet.
The BW bonjwas didn't win everything either.
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Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
September 15 2018 08:15 GMT
#87
production is sick
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 08:16 GMT
#88
On September 15 2018 17:15 Morbidius wrote:
Rakshir can't be a more fitting name for the season. TY is challenging Maru, the highlord of terran, to Rakshir.


And they laughed at that title at the beginning of the season...
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 08:16 GMT
#89
I can't get full screen on TL embedded streams (Chrome), I need to go to twitch page directly nowadays, does anybody have the same issue?
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Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
September 15 2018 08:17 GMT
#90
Bold prediction: series will go to a Game 7, and just before it starts, Serral's music will hit and he will challenge TY and Maru to 1v2 winner take all for the GSL title.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 08:17:27
September 15 2018 08:17 GMT
#91
It's really lame they used cloth as fake flames in the barrels. Should've been actual Rak'shir, with the floor in the studio splitting open and the loser of the series being thrown into the lava beneath.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 15 2018 08:17 GMT
#92
I hope so much that Serral does GSL next year
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 08:18 GMT
#93
On September 15 2018 17:17 Kommander wrote:
Bold prediction: series will go to a Game 7, and just before it starts, Serral's music will hit and he will challenge TY and Maru to 1v2 winner take all for the GSL title.

What's Serral's music?
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
September 15 2018 08:18 GMT
#94
GOGO TY, GOGO SPLYCE!
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5589 Posts
September 15 2018 08:19 GMT
#95
On September 15 2018 17:18 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 17:17 Kommander wrote:
Bold prediction: series will go to a Game 7, and just before it starts, Serral's music will hit and he will challenge TY and Maru to 1v2 winner take all for the GSL title.

What's Serral's music?

don't wall off against random
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 08:19 GMT
#96
On September 15 2018 17:17 Ej_ wrote:
It's really lame they used cloth as fake flames in the barrels. Should've been actual Rak'shir, with the floor in the studio splitting open and the loser of the series being thrown into the lava beneath.


These people clearly have no passion
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
September 15 2018 08:19 GMT
#97
On September 15 2018 17:18 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 17:17 Kommander wrote:
Bold prediction: series will go to a Game 7, and just before it starts, Serral's music will hit and he will challenge TY and Maru to 1v2 winner take all for the GSL title.

What's Serral's music?

Pretty sure it's this.
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 15 2018 08:19 GMT
#98
On September 15 2018 17:16 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 17:15 Morbidius wrote:
Rakshir can't be a more fitting name for the season. TY is challenging Maru, the highlord of terran, to Rakshir.


And they laughed at that title at the beginning of the season...

I thought Maru would make a Ro32 exit just to ruin it all as usually happens in SC2 whenever the bonjwa talks start.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 08:20 GMT
#99
On September 15 2018 17:05 GTR wrote:
OMG THEY USED THE B WORD

And a certain someone told me it's a dead word in korea
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 15 2018 08:21 GMT
#100
On September 15 2018 17:20 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 17:05 GTR wrote:
OMG THEY USED THE B WORD

And a certain someone told me it's a dead word in korea

Its only a dead word when you don't want your favorite player losing his post as the GOAT.
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 08:22 GMT
#101
On September 15 2018 17:19 rotta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 17:18 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 15 2018 17:17 Kommander wrote:
Bold prediction: series will go to a Game 7, and just before it starts, Serral's music will hit and he will challenge TY and Maru to 1v2 winner take all for the GSL title.

What's Serral's music?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3atJWUBl76I


1995, never forget
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 08:22 GMT
#102
This is some really awesome hype interviews
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
September 15 2018 08:22 GMT
#103
There, you heard it. Proxy rax 7 games.
romson87
Profile Joined May 2016
Poland487 Posts
September 15 2018 08:22 GMT
#104
Maru's too scared of TY, it's his game to lose imo
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 08:22 GMT
#105
TY is the man, calling out the perpetual 2 raxxer to grow some balls and macro
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
September 15 2018 08:24 GMT
#106
On September 15 2018 17:22 romson87 wrote:
Maru's too scared of TY, it's his game to lose imo


Feels like it - but then they did almost the same with the last final where Zest sounded really good and it looked to be a great match, then Maru happened.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 08:25 GMT
#107
On September 15 2018 17:24 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 17:22 romson87 wrote:
Maru's too scared of TY, it's his game to lose imo


Feels like it - but then they did almost the same with the last final where Zest sounded really good and it looked to be a great match, then Maru happened.

Yeah but Zest was shit and everybody knew it lol.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 15 2018 08:25 GMT
#108
On September 15 2018 17:22 Noonius wrote:
TY is the man, calling out the perpetual 2 raxxer to grow some balls and macro

That's a lot coming from TY this season
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 15 2018 08:25 GMT
#109
Maru Corleone, the don of Terran looks really nice in his chair.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 15 2018 08:27 GMT
#110
dude these starcraft music remixes are incredible
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 08:27 GMT
#111
I dream of the day when someone else other than Tastosis casts GSL
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 08:28 GMT
#112
lol Tastosis and that overhype
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 08:29 GMT
#113
Haha, starts with Catalyst and ends with Atlas.

Fitting.
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Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 15 2018 08:29 GMT
#114
Lmao tasteless' voice dying
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Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 15 2018 08:29 GMT
#115
LOL
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DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
September 15 2018 08:29 GMT
#116
HHAHAHA
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Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
September 15 2018 08:29 GMT
#117
Proxy number 1.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 08:29 GMT
#118
the proxying has become a meme
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 08:29 GMT
#119
AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 08:29 GMT
#120
LOL
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 15 2018 08:29 GMT
#121
Why did anyone expect anything else
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 15 2018 08:29 GMT
#122
TY is a coward, give me double proxy
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 08:29 GMT
#123
that crowd reaction lmao
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
September 15 2018 08:29 GMT
#124
lel
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 08:30 GMT
#125
On September 15 2018 17:29 Charoisaur wrote:
that crowd reaction lmao

omg giving away the secret, need to put the players in an underground bunker
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ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
September 15 2018 08:30 GMT
#126
On September 15 2018 17:25 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 17:24 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
On September 15 2018 17:22 romson87 wrote:
Maru's too scared of TY, it's his game to lose imo


Feels like it - but then they did almost the same with the last final where Zest sounded really good and it looked to be a great match, then Maru happened.

Yeah but Zest was shit and everybody knew it lol.


Have to agree with that one. I want Maru to win, but I want it to be nailbiter. We all had hopes for Gumiho, but he was left wanting.
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 15 2018 08:30 GMT
#127
Artosis forgot how Byun cheesed TY out of Blizzcon using this cheese.
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Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 15 2018 08:30 GMT
#128
oh my god the scout
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 08:31 GMT
#129
On September 15 2018 17:30 Psychonian wrote:
oh my god the scout

naniwa was right
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 08:31 GMT
#130
just woke up, just in time TM.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 08:32 GMT
#131
Here comes the banshee to seal the game.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 08:32 GMT
#132
woa
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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 08:33:52
September 15 2018 08:33 GMT
#133
Again a cheese from Maru... meh i hope he will lose
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 08:34 GMT
#134
TY is literally 10 times better
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 08:34 GMT
#135
Did TY cancel cloak?
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 08:34 GMT
#136
On September 15 2018 17:34 sneakyfox wrote:
Did TY cancel cloak?

Yes.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 08:37 GMT
#137
TYTYTYTYTYTYTYTY !!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
September 15 2018 08:37 GMT
#138
Sick control by TY
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 15 2018 08:37 GMT
#139
not close
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 08:37 GMT
#140
hahahahaaaaaa brilliant
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
September 15 2018 08:38 GMT
#141
de-stroyed
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
September 15 2018 08:38 GMT
#142
TyT Baby
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 15 2018 08:38 GMT
#143
I feel like that scan might have telegraphed to TY that Maru was going for a third CC maybe? I could be wrong here but I could see someone on the level of TY knowing that that means third CC
Trans Rights
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 08:38 GMT
#144
very peculiar game, TY managed to break Maru literally inch by inch we don't see this often.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
September 15 2018 08:38 GMT
#145
Proxy by Maru = free win for TY
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 08:39 GMT
#146
On September 15 2018 17:38 Psychonian wrote:
I feel like that scan might have telegraphed to TY that Maru was going for a third CC maybe? I could be wrong here but I could see someone on the level of TY knowing that that means third CC

He was going to 2fact push him anyway.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 08:39 GMT
#147
Gogo I wanna see Maru win with a proxy!
WriterMaru
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
September 15 2018 08:39 GMT
#148
Prime Terrans failing at proxies is pure gold.
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djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
September 15 2018 08:40 GMT
#149
I'm sure TY heard that crowd reaction. That was so loud ! Even with the headset I'm sure he could hear it. And weirdly he had the perfect counter...
Polt | Bomber | MMA | Taeja | Maru | TY | Byun | Innovation
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 08:40 GMT
#150
wut
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DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
September 15 2018 08:40 GMT
#151
wAT
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 15 2018 08:40 GMT
#152
Maru what are you doing
Trans Rights
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 08:40 GMT
#153
the meme build
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 08:40 GMT
#154
really?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 15 2018 08:40 GMT
#155
just a maka rax
Liquipedia"Expert"
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 08:40 GMT
#156
seriously?
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
September 15 2018 08:40 GMT
#157
Jesus Christ Maru LOL
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
September 15 2018 08:40 GMT
#158
Guys... I think he meant what he said in the interview...
Someone call down the Thunder?
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5589 Posts
September 15 2018 08:40 GMT
#159
Only cheese is real.
don't wall off against random
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 08:41 GMT
#160
On September 15 2018 17:39 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Prime Terrans failing at proxies is pure gold.


there was no need to bring Prime into this. It's all JA
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 08:41:33
September 15 2018 08:41 GMT
#161
On September 15 2018 17:40 djraphi23 wrote:
I'm sure TY heard that crowd reaction. That was so loud ! Even with the headset I'm sure he could hear it. And weirdly he had the perfect counter...

You can barely hear the game sounds in the noice cancelling head phones, but go ahead and diminish the player who won a bit more.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1796 Posts
September 15 2018 08:41 GMT
#162
TY the coward not doing proxies
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
September 15 2018 08:41 GMT
#163
Maru is just setting up the reverse sweep guys
I Protoss winner, could it be?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 08:41 GMT
#164
TY with the expand oO
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
September 15 2018 08:41 GMT
#165
Such a hype finals!
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 08:41 GMT
#166
TvT is actually good with the proxies :D
WriterMaru
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
September 15 2018 08:41 GMT
#167
On September 15 2018 17:41 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 17:39 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Prime Terrans failing at proxies is pure gold.


there was no need to bring Prime into this. It's all JA

Maru's DNA will always be Prime for me.
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
September 15 2018 08:42 GMT
#168
Seriously Maru... it'd be a bitter morning if he wins like that
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 15 2018 08:42 GMT
#169
Dirty
Community News
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Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
September 15 2018 08:43 GMT
#170
I'm gonna put my rax in your base.
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1796 Posts
September 15 2018 08:44 GMT
#171
oh, there's the proxy from TY
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 08:45 GMT
#172
On September 15 2018 17:44 Zzzapper wrote:
oh, there's the proxy from TY

3 proxies in 2 games, good start for tonight
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 08:46 GMT
#173
TY is a defense god wtf
WriterMaru
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 15 2018 08:47 GMT
#174
3CC though for maru
Trans Rights
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 08:47 GMT
#175
I haven't been so angry watching sc2 for a long long time
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 08:48 GMT
#176
Cyclone good unit...
WriterMaru
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 08:48 GMT
#177
that was a cute bush trick
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
September 15 2018 08:48 GMT
#178
TY is the best tactician IN THE WORLD
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 08:48 GMT
#179
Maru has been getting trashed this series good god
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
romson87
Profile Joined May 2016
Poland487 Posts
September 15 2018 08:48 GMT
#180
Yup, seems like it's TY's series
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 08:48 GMT
#181
worth
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 15 2018 08:49 GMT
#182
I feel like Maru should've been slowing the push these last two games by abusing the map chokes
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Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
September 15 2018 08:49 GMT
#183
Aaw yiss TY, looking good.
Hello
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 08:50 GMT
#184
that was... bold
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
September 15 2018 08:50 GMT
#185
maru choking?
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 08:50 GMT
#186
So far this has been as one-sided as Maru vs Zest.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
September 15 2018 08:50 GMT
#187
I can't believe Maru actually did that doom drop lol
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
September 15 2018 08:50 GMT
#188
Maru with the suicide drop.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 08:50 GMT
#189
I can play it like Maru!!
WriterMaru
romson87
Profile Joined May 2016
Poland487 Posts
September 15 2018 08:51 GMT
#190
Smackdown
TL+ Member
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
September 15 2018 08:51 GMT
#191
On September 15 2018 17:48 romson87 wrote:
Yup, seems like it's TY's series

don't count out the 3-0 into 3-4 sweep just yet
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
September 15 2018 08:52 GMT
#192
Don't think TY should've pulled his entire army back to defend that drop.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 08:52 GMT
#193
On September 15 2018 17:51 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 17:48 romson87 wrote:
Yup, seems like it's TY's series

don't count out the 3-0 into 3-4 sweep just yet


we aren't talking about the greatness that was Soulkey here
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
September 15 2018 08:53 GMT
#194
This game is really deadly for those poor scientists in the Ebays.
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 08:53:46
September 15 2018 08:53 GMT
#195
Proxying the ebays is probably a safer position for them than behind the main
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
September 15 2018 08:54 GMT
#196
On September 15 2018 17:52 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 17:51 Penev wrote:
On September 15 2018 17:48 romson87 wrote:
Yup, seems like it's TY's series

don't count out the 3-0 into 3-4 sweep just yet


we aren't talking about the greatness that was Soulkey here

I'd say TY's ability to get sweeped is even more impressive
I Protoss winner, could it be?
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
September 15 2018 08:54 GMT
#197
Who said you can't split against AA missile?!
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 08:54 GMT
#198
GET OUT
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
September 15 2018 08:54 GMT
#199
Hope TY smacks him 4-0.
Hello
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 08:54 GMT
#200
OH MY GOD TY YOU GOD
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
September 15 2018 08:54 GMT
#201
Will this be 4-0 for ty?;(
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
September 15 2018 08:55 GMT
#202
TY's pushes are surgical. Very nice to watch.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
September 15 2018 08:55 GMT
#203
proxy again, surely it will work this time
Year of MaxPax
Noa Greenini
Profile Joined April 2015
265 Posts
September 15 2018 08:55 GMT
#204
On September 15 2018 17:54 Odoakar wrote:
Will this be 4-0 for ty?;(


probably not!
Noa Greenini looks like the superior LR poster - Charoisaur 04/05/2019 (Serral vs Showtime match)
jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
September 15 2018 08:55 GMT
#205
Were... were people saying 4-0?
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 08:55:45
September 15 2018 08:55 GMT
#206
I had a feeling Maru would have trouble against TY. I personally feel that out of all his matchups, TvT is his weakest. And TY is a TvT maestro.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 08:55 GMT
#207
Maru will win I believe
WriterMaru
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
September 15 2018 08:55 GMT
#208
Yup TY is a genius
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 15 2018 08:56 GMT
#209
And TvT still sucks for Maru
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 08:56 GMT
#210
seems like TY is just better at everything today
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
September 15 2018 08:56 GMT
#211
TY is such a pleasure to watch, his tactics and positioning is just incredibly on point.
ModeratorFather of bunnies
romson87
Profile Joined May 2016
Poland487 Posts
September 15 2018 08:56 GMT
#212
Wow TY is playing like a champ
TL+ Member
NotSoHappy
Profile Joined November 2010
445 Posts
September 15 2018 08:57 GMT
#213
Maru is getting outplayed? Who would have thought
xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
September 15 2018 08:57 GMT
#214
Maybe time to not proxy and see how its goes in orthodox play.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 15 2018 08:57 GMT
#215
Cmon Maru D:
Community News
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ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
September 15 2018 08:57 GMT
#216
On September 15 2018 17:56 romson87 wrote:
Wow TY is playing like a champ


Might be one in an hour or so
ModeratorFather of bunnies
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
September 15 2018 08:57 GMT
#217
gogogo TY
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
September 15 2018 08:57 GMT
#218
OR 2-0 into 2-3 into 4-3?

:thonking:
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
September 15 2018 08:57 GMT
#219
Noooooo bring it back Maru
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
September 15 2018 08:57 GMT
#220
TY playing godlike. Gonna be a hard uphill battle for Maru.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 15 2018 08:59 GMT
#221
It's not over yet, but TY looks unbeatable today :O
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
litLikeBic
Profile Joined August 2018
Canada105 Posts
September 15 2018 08:59 GMT
#222
hey guys! i'm late as usual have the games been good? short or long in duration? thanks in advance for any replies
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 09:00:16
September 15 2018 09:00 GMT
#223
On September 15 2018 17:57 xongnox wrote:
Maybe time to not proxy and see how its goes in orthodox play.

funny thing is; if Maru went proxy reapers in the last game he would've won
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:00 GMT
#224
TY looking incredible. Eager to see if Maru will be able to react.
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
September 15 2018 09:00 GMT
#225
There's nothing I love more than proxies failing. Go TY!
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 09:01:10
September 15 2018 09:01 GMT
#226
On September 15 2018 17:59 litLikeBic wrote:
hey guys! i'm late as usual have the games been good? short or long in duration? thanks in advance for any replies

Maru falls behind from failed early proxies and TY commands the game from there with an iron grip.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 15 2018 09:01 GMT
#227
On September 15 2018 18:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:
TY looking incredible. Eager to see if Maru will be able to react.

Doesn't look so, I hope his wrists are not striking back...
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
litLikeBic
Profile Joined August 2018
Canada105 Posts
September 15 2018 09:02 GMT
#228
On September 15 2018 18:01 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 17:59 litLikeBic wrote:
hey guys! i'm late as usual have the games been good? short or long in duration? thanks in advance for any replies

Maru falls behind from failed early proxies and TY commands the game from there with an iron grip.

i c i c. thanks!
GreasedUpDeafGuy
Profile Joined August 2018
United States398 Posts
September 15 2018 09:04 GMT
#229
THIS IS CHEESE'SHIR
Cant catch me. You're wasting your time
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:04 GMT
#230
On September 15 2018 18:01 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 18:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:
TY looking incredible. Eager to see if Maru will be able to react.

Doesn't look so, I hope his wrists are not striking back...

honestly his mechanics aren't looking bad, he played from behind in both games I think. I still have hope this can become a very good series.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 09:05 GMT
#231
These breaks are way to long!!! goddammit
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 15 2018 09:06 GMT
#232
On September 15 2018 18:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 18:01 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:
TY looking incredible. Eager to see if Maru will be able to react.

Doesn't look so, I hope his wrists are not striking back...

honestly his mechanics aren't looking bad, he played from behind in both games I think. I still have hope this can become a very good series.

His reactions have been slower than usual for sure.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 09:06 GMT
#233
best dad ever
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
September 15 2018 09:07 GMT
#234
This break must be long enough for TY to realize he's 2-0 up
I Protoss winner, could it be?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 15 2018 09:07 GMT
#235
On September 15 2018 18:06 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 18:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:01 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:
TY looking incredible. Eager to see if Maru will be able to react.

Doesn't look so, I hope his wrists are not striking back...

honestly his mechanics aren't looking bad, he played from behind in both games I think. I still have hope this can become a very good series.

His reactions have been slower than usual for sure.

This.

Also it would explain why he's playing worse in lower tiers of GSL
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:07 GMT
#236
On September 15 2018 18:07 Penev wrote:
This break must be long enough for TY to realize he's 2-0 up

ha ha
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 09:08 GMT
#237
On September 15 2018 18:07 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 18:06 Fango wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:01 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:
TY looking incredible. Eager to see if Maru will be able to react.

Doesn't look so, I hope his wrists are not striking back...

honestly his mechanics aren't looking bad, he played from behind in both games I think. I still have hope this can become a very good series.

His reactions have been slower than usual for sure.

This.

Also it would explain why he's playing worse in lower tiers of GSL


how so?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 09:08 GMT
#238
I don't care about their families I wanna see Maru comeback
Too long of a break
It's because of Zest I'm sure...
WriterMaru
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
September 15 2018 09:09 GMT
#239
TY up 2-0 and some people are already making excuses for Maru? lmao
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 15 2018 09:09 GMT
#240
On September 15 2018 18:08 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 18:07 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:06 Fango wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:01 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:
TY looking incredible. Eager to see if Maru will be able to react.

Doesn't look so, I hope his wrists are not striking back...

honestly his mechanics aren't looking bad, he played from behind in both games I think. I still have hope this can become a very good series.

His reactions have been slower than usual for sure.

This.

Also it would explain why he's playing worse in lower tiers of GSL


how so?

He? Saving wrists for when it matters?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 09:09 GMT
#241
Honestly how long has this break been? Four hours?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
September 15 2018 09:09 GMT
#242
wtf is going on...i want to watch some games.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 15 2018 09:09 GMT
#243
Must be weird when the easiest trophy of your life is the most talked about
Liquipedia"Expert"
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
September 15 2018 09:09 GMT
#244
The mom who birthed the cutest family IN THE WORLD

I Protoss winner, could it be?
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 09:09 GMT
#245
I guess the Asian Games are a big deal in Korea, it was pretty funny just looking at the SC2 tournament though lol
"Expert" mods4ever.com
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 15 2018 09:09 GMT
#246
On September 15 2018 18:09 Kommander wrote:
TY up 2-0 and some people are already making excuses for Maru? lmao

Yeah it's a bit silly, with that being said, LET'S GO MARU
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 09:09 GMT
#247
On September 15 2018 18:09 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 18:08 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:07 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:06 Fango wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:01 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:
TY looking incredible. Eager to see if Maru will be able to react.

Doesn't look so, I hope his wrists are not striking back...

honestly his mechanics aren't looking bad, he played from behind in both games I think. I still have hope this can become a very good series.

His reactions have been slower than usual for sure.

This.

Also it would explain why he's playing worse in lower tiers of GSL


how so?

He? Saving wrists for when it matters?


Ahh
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 09:10 GMT
#248
On September 15 2018 18:09 Kommander wrote:
TY up 2-0 and some people are already making excuses for Maru? lmao

They aren't excuses if they are true, I am sure that TY wants this much more than Maru too.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 09:11 GMT
#249
Maru would've won both games if he had tried. He's saving himself for Asian games 2019
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
September 15 2018 09:11 GMT
#250
this is pretty aww but clearly slowing down the hypetrain
Year of MaxPax
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
September 15 2018 09:11 GMT
#251
Better to make the final a best of 9 without interruptions, interviews and such.

Why is GSL so obsessed with wasting time instead of showing the games?
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
September 15 2018 09:11 GMT
#252
On September 15 2018 18:10 IshinShishi wrote:
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On September 15 2018 18:09 Kommander wrote:
TY up 2-0 and some people are already making excuses for Maru? lmao

They aren't excuses if they are true, I am sure that TY wants this much more than Maru too.


Show me proof that's it's true then. Otherwise, TY is just straight outplaying Maru so far.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:12 GMT
#253
16-bit draw please
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 09:13:14
September 15 2018 09:12 GMT
#254
On September 15 2018 18:09 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 18:09 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:08 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:07 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:06 Fango wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:01 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:
TY looking incredible. Eager to see if Maru will be able to react.

Doesn't look so, I hope his wrists are not striking back...

honestly his mechanics aren't looking bad, he played from behind in both games I think. I still have hope this can become a very good series.

His reactions have been slower than usual for sure.

This.

Also it would explain why he's playing worse in lower tiers of GSL


how so?

He? Saving wrists for when it matters?


Ahh

He had issues 3 years ago I believe, and they don't go away, you can just mitigate some damage. I don't have wrist issues, but I have fucked up ankle really hard and on some days it's so bad just because of "reasons". Once it's broken it cannot be fixed anymore and you have to save yourself.

Edit> This looks to me Maru has issues, 3 proxies...?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 09:12 GMT
#255
SERIOUSLY? lol
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IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 09:12 GMT
#256
On September 15 2018 18:11 Kommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 18:10 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:09 Kommander wrote:
TY up 2-0 and some people are already making excuses for Maru? lmao

They aren't excuses if they are true, I am sure that TY wants this much more than Maru too.


Show me proof that's it's true then. Otherwise, TY is just straight outplaying Maru so far.

TY is straight up outplaying Maru, that doesn't mean that you get to exclude the circumstances that led up to this.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:12 GMT
#257
Maru is for sure persistent
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 09:12 GMT
#258
On September 15 2018 18:11 MockHamill wrote:
Better to make the final a best of 9 without interruptions, interviews and such.

Why is GSL so obsessed with wasting time instead of showing the games?

speak for yourself, I think it adds to the hype
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
September 15 2018 09:13 GMT
#259
This guy. Wow
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 09:13 GMT
#260
the Maru meme
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
September 15 2018 09:13 GMT
#261
Well then...
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5589 Posts
September 15 2018 09:13 GMT
#262
Wow...
don't wall off against random
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 09:13 GMT
#263
Why Maru?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
September 15 2018 09:13 GMT
#264
Win or lose, he'll keep the meme alive.
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
September 15 2018 09:13 GMT
#265
Fuck maru this is so lame.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 09:13 GMT
#266
Gas first on 16-bit from TY...

TY reads this kid like a weekly shonen jump
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 09:13 GMT
#267
if he loses 0-4 with this...
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
September 15 2018 09:13 GMT
#268
Well I really hope TY 4-0's him now. Stop with the damn proxies.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
September 15 2018 09:13 GMT
#269
One trick poney
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 09:13 GMT
#270
...and people wonder why I despise him
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
September 15 2018 09:13 GMT
#271
mary is an absolute madman
~~~~~
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
September 15 2018 09:13 GMT
#272
BELIEVE IT
djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
September 15 2018 09:13 GMT
#273
Maru...
Polt | Bomber | MMA | Taeja | Maru | TY | Byun | Innovation
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:14 GMT
#274
Maru quite unlucky with his choice of proxys
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
September 15 2018 09:14 GMT
#275
Live by the Proxy, Die by the Proxy.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 15 2018 09:14 GMT
#276
Maru going full InCa
Liquipedia"Expert"
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:15 GMT
#277
well nice damage this time
Terra1
Profile Joined June 2018
Philippines312 Posts
September 15 2018 09:15 GMT
#278
Awesome hold by TY! Damn!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 09:15 GMT
#279
Wow losing that first reaper was a blunder by TY

well done by Maru
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Terra1
Profile Joined June 2018
Philippines312 Posts
September 15 2018 09:16 GMT
#280
Does Maru like to proxy in TvP?
In TvZ and TvT, he loves proxies so much.
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
September 15 2018 09:17 GMT
#281
TY looking sharp.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
September 15 2018 09:17 GMT
#282
I don't understand how people can cheer for those kind of constant play
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
September 15 2018 09:17 GMT
#283
On September 15 2018 18:16 Terra1 wrote:
Does Maru like to proxy in TvP?
In TvZ and TvT, he loves proxies so much.


He proxies in every match up.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:18 GMT
#284
fantastic micro
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 09:18 GMT
#285
jesus Maru is playing like an absolute god
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 09:18 GMT
#286
Maru is back guys!
WriterMaru
Terra1
Profile Joined June 2018
Philippines312 Posts
September 15 2018 09:18 GMT
#287
6 scv kills and warp prism-like micro. Maru!
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
September 15 2018 09:18 GMT
#288
Wow that micro.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 09:18 GMT
#289
sick
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Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
September 15 2018 09:18 GMT
#290
omg that medievac play was insane
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
September 15 2018 09:18 GMT
#291
Maru making his mom proud, damn.
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
September 15 2018 09:19 GMT
#292
On September 15 2018 18:17 Kommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 18:16 Terra1 wrote:
Does Maru like to proxy in TvP?
In TvZ and TvT, he loves proxies so much.


He proxies in every match up.

Maybe Maru is bad in standard game and only wins because he throws people off :D
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Terra1
Profile Joined June 2018
Philippines312 Posts
September 15 2018 09:19 GMT
#293
5 more scv kills.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 09:19 GMT
#294
ok this cyclone drop harass is pretty good lol
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 09:19 GMT
#295
build a fucking turret
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:20 GMT
#296
impressive cyclone micro, could get Maru in the flow again
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
September 15 2018 09:20 GMT
#297
Okay, it was sick against the marines, but picking them up before a single siege tank kills them isn't that crazy.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 09:21 GMT
#298
On September 15 2018 18:20 DBooN wrote:
Okay, it was sick against the marines, but picking them up before a single siege tank kills them isn't that crazy.

the crazy thing is anticipating that he can stay long enough before the Interference matrix wears of and keeps everything alive in the time
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:21 GMT
#299
Sick game, gg
Noa Greenini
Profile Joined April 2015
265 Posts
September 15 2018 09:22 GMT
#300
TY 4-0 ;-)
Noa Greenini looks like the superior LR poster - Charoisaur 04/05/2019 (Serral vs Showtime match)
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 15 2018 09:22 GMT
#301
Nice one!
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 09:22 GMT
#302
fuck that ridiculously long break
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
September 15 2018 09:22 GMT
#303
Keeping TY's Raven energy low really helped
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 09:22 GMT
#304
alright we got a series boys!
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gophersnake
Profile Joined July 2018
48 Posts
September 15 2018 09:22 GMT
#305
Turns out Maru is pretty good
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
September 15 2018 09:22 GMT
#306
Maruuuuuuuuuuu
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
September 15 2018 09:22 GMT
#307
If you go proxy 2 rax every game, can it still be considered cheese?
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
September 15 2018 09:22 GMT
#308
Nice! Sick micro!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:22 GMT
#309
I hope Maru proxies all the way through honestly, this is just too funny
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
September 15 2018 09:22 GMT
#310
On September 15 2018 18:21 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 18:20 DBooN wrote:
Okay, it was sick against the marines, but picking them up before a single siege tank kills them isn't that crazy.

the crazy thing is anticipating that he can stay long enough before the Interference matrix wears of and keeps everything alive in the time

Looked more like he just went for it and it ended up working out.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 09:22 GMT
#311
the micro was perfect, but Maru lost every marine a couple seconds before stim and 1/1 hit, I guess he thought he didnt need the timing.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 09:22 GMT
#312
On September 15 2018 18:19 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 18:17 Kommander wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:16 Terra1 wrote:
Does Maru like to proxy in TvP?
In TvZ and TvT, he loves proxies so much.


He proxies in every match up.

Maybe Maru is bad in standard game and only wins because he throws people off :D

People know he's gonna proxy so it's actually a hindrance for him to do it in TvT/TvZ
WriterMaru
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 15 2018 09:23 GMT
#313
Proxying on a 4 player map is the final step to being a bonjwa
Liquipedia"Expert"
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4010 Posts
September 15 2018 09:23 GMT
#314
On September 15 2018 18:22 Noa Greenini wrote:
TY 4-0 ;-)


i need a portion of that weed you are smoking bro
Drone is a way of living
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
September 15 2018 09:23 GMT
#315
On September 15 2018 18:22 Aunvilgodess wrote:
If you go proxy 2 rax every game, can it still be considered cheese?

Everyone knows Terran proxy is macro build.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:23 GMT
#316
HA HA HA HA HA
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
September 15 2018 09:23 GMT
#317
Have to say this interference matrix spell makes things a bit more fluid. Good spell, Blizzard.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 09:23 GMT
#318
no of course I am not suprised
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1209 Posts
September 15 2018 09:24 GMT
#319
hahaha Maru xdddddddddddd
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IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 09:24 GMT
#320
On September 15 2018 18:22 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 18:21 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 15 2018 18:20 DBooN wrote:
Okay, it was sick against the marines, but picking them up before a single siege tank kills them isn't that crazy.

the crazy thing is anticipating that he can stay long enough before the Interference matrix wears of and keeps everything alive in the time

Looked more like he just went for it and it ended up working out.

Nah, that's naive as fuck, it was clear that he played it to perfection, no overhype.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 09:24:22
September 15 2018 09:24 GMT
#321
This series hasn't had a proper player intro so far LMAO
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:24 GMT
#322
is it just me or are they delaying the ingame screen to build up the "suspense" of will he proxy or not ?
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 09:24 GMT
#323
this is not funny, it's just stupid
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
September 15 2018 09:24 GMT
#324
Well at least he is true to his word of wanting to proxy 7 games in a row.
romson87
Profile Joined May 2016
Poland487 Posts
September 15 2018 09:24 GMT
#325
LUL
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 09:24 GMT
#326
GSL finals continue to suck!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
September 15 2018 09:24 GMT
#327
So I guess Maru's the player I dislike the most in Starcraft right now because of this GSL.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
September 15 2018 09:24 GMT
#328
Imagine Maru not proxying, TY would be completely lost
I Protoss winner, could it be?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 15 2018 09:25 GMT
#329
This reminds me old WoL or HotS youtube series where pro gamers got challenges to play against random people from the crowd, like "don't build anything in you base" etc. Maru watched it?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 15 2018 09:25 GMT
#330
Maru really hates player intros
Liquipedia"Expert"
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 09:25 GMT
#331
proxy starport inc?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
September 15 2018 09:25 GMT
#332
At some point of the proxy meta, korean starcraft deserves to die.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 09:26 GMT
#333
On September 15 2018 18:22 Aunvilgodess wrote:
If you go proxy 2 rax every game, can it still be considered cheese?

it's standard play now, not proxying is the new cheese
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DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
September 15 2018 09:27 GMT
#334
On September 15 2018 18:25 Inflicted wrote:
Maru really hates player intros

Maybe he's colluding with Incontrol?!
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1199 Posts
September 15 2018 09:27 GMT
#335
Maru is like "I'll show this proxy usurper how it is done"
sOs TY PartinG
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 09:28 GMT
#336
On September 15 2018 18:27 egrimm wrote:
Maru is like "I'll show this proxy usurper how it is done"

Shame Maru is going to be well done now ;o
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
September 15 2018 09:28 GMT
#337
On September 15 2018 18:27 egrimm wrote:
Maru is like "I'll show this proxy usurper how it is done"

"The Proxy Throne is mine, by rights."
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:28 GMT
#338
TY's smart play is really a pleasure to watch.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 09:29 GMT
#339
On September 15 2018 18:24 Ej_ wrote:
GSL finals continue to suck!

if this goes to 6 or 7 games then it's probably gonna be a good match
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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 09:30:03
September 15 2018 09:29 GMT
#340
Sad to see that Maru won't play without proxy... but TY is on fire and it's beautiful to watch
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
romson87
Profile Joined May 2016
Poland487 Posts
September 15 2018 09:29 GMT
#341
TY is outsmarting Maru hard
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 09:29 GMT
#342
On September 15 2018 18:29 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 18:24 Ej_ wrote:
GSL finals continue to suck!

if this goes to 6 or 7 games then it's probably gonna be a good match

Can't wait for 2rax reaper on Atlas.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 09:30 GMT
#343
dont get the noobsters crying about proxy, these games have been amazing, much much better than tons of "standard macro games"
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:31 GMT
#344
On September 15 2018 18:30 IshinShishi wrote:
dont get the noobsters crying about proxy, these games have been amazing, much much better than tons of "standard macro games"

so far I'm loving it. TY defended well in most of the games and we got interesting developments
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 15 2018 09:32 GMT
#345
On September 15 2018 18:30 IshinShishi wrote:
dont get the noobsters crying about proxy, these games have been amazing, much much better than tons of "standard macro games"

I have been on the edge of my seat for almost an hour now, incredible micro battles all around.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 09:34:04
September 15 2018 09:33 GMT
#346
hmm that sequence looked questionable from TY
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
September 15 2018 09:33 GMT
#347
wtf was that TY?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
September 15 2018 09:34 GMT
#348
TY skillfully steering to the 2-3
I Protoss winner, could it be?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 09:36:12
September 15 2018 09:35 GMT
#349
On September 15 2018 18:34 Penev wrote:
TY skillfully steering to the 2-3

TY going from 2-0 to 2-3 and Maru proxying everygame, respecting the memes
we're lacking a 100 scvs game from TY so far though
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 09:36 GMT
#350
CORVUS REACTOR


A V I L O
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 09:37:13
September 15 2018 09:36 GMT
#351
92 SCVs vs 88 SCVs lol
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
September 15 2018 09:37 GMT
#352
On September 15 2018 18:35 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 18:34 Penev wrote:
TY skillfully steering to the 2-3

TY going from 2-0 to 2-3 and Maru proxying everygame, respecting the memes
we're lacking a 100 scvs game from TY so far though

Maybe he'll save those for after the 2-3 has been accomplished

don't mix the memes
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
September 15 2018 09:37 GMT
#353
avilo vs avilo, Korea edition
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:37 GMT
#354
On September 15 2018 18:36 Die4Ever wrote:
92 SCVs vs 83 SCVs lol

getting closer to those hundreds ^^
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1796 Posts
September 15 2018 09:37 GMT
#355
On September 15 2018 18:36 Die4Ever wrote:
92 SCVs vs 83 SCVs lol

And somehow TY's the one with the lower count
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1199 Posts
September 15 2018 09:37 GMT
#356
(olymipcs) circles on mini map
sOs TY PartinG
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:37 GMT
#357
On September 15 2018 18:37 Durnuu wrote:
avilo vs avilo, Korea edition

I'm actually looking forward to this ^^
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 09:38 GMT
#358
92 workers wtf
WriterMaru
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
September 15 2018 09:38 GMT
#359
No 3/3 for TY?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:38 GMT
#360
On September 15 2018 18:38 DBooN wrote:
No 3/3 for TY?

this is indeed quite surprising. Complete air transition ?
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
September 15 2018 09:39 GMT
#361
AAM/Thor combo, that's pretty cool.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:39 GMT
#362
huge move from Maru
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
September 15 2018 09:40 GMT
#363
is it time to complain about Ravens again just yet?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:41 GMT
#364
wonder if Maru intends to morph those CCs into planetaries
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 15 2018 09:41 GMT
#365
The Hammer of Sun gonna smash hard this little Teddy Bear.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 15 2018 09:41 GMT
#366
On September 15 2018 18:40 Penev wrote:
is it time to complain about Ravens again just yet?

Please stop, he's already dead! (Post patch at least.)
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1796 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 09:42:40
September 15 2018 09:42 GMT
#367
I feel like Maru's 3/3 has already paid for itself. Not sure why TY skipped out on it

Oh I wasn't looking properly
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 09:42 GMT
#368
Maru is making 3 CCs, an orbital, and a planetary all at once lol
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 15 2018 09:42 GMT
#369
By the way, Tychus anti armor debuff looks so classy and natural in coop. Can't we get something similar for multiplayer instead of those bright tomatoes?
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:42 GMT
#370
at that point I just hope they mine out the map and it ends in a sick ravens vs ravens low supply fight
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 15 2018 09:43 GMT
#371
3 hour draw game into 4 more proxies
Liquipedia"Expert"
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:43 GMT
#372
On September 15 2018 18:43 Inflicted wrote:
3 hour draw game into 4 more proxies

sign me in
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 15 2018 09:43 GMT
#373
Who's winning? Can't watch so I won't refuse from good old LR. Bring 'em on guys!
sunbeams are never made like me...
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:44 GMT
#374
On September 15 2018 18:43 outscar wrote:
Who's winning? Can't watch so I won't refuse from good old LR. Bring 'em on guys!

ravens
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
September 15 2018 09:44 GMT
#375
Nerf ravens.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 15 2018 09:44 GMT
#376
On September 15 2018 18:43 outscar wrote:
Who's winning? Can't watch so I won't refuse from good old LR. Bring 'em on guys!

Pretty even, map is split and they both got banks. Better player will win unless one of them makes a huge blunder.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
September 15 2018 09:45 GMT
#377
On September 15 2018 18:44 yht9657 wrote:
Nerf ravens.

edit: nvm that's already in the patch.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:45 GMT
#378
wonder when they're going to sacrifice scvs, feel like they have far too many given their orbitals counts
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 09:45 GMT
#379
On September 15 2018 18:45 [PkF] Wire wrote:
wonder when they're going to sacrifice scvs, feel like they have far too many given their orbitals counts

there you go
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 09:45 GMT
#380
OMG TY BC!!!!
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 09:46 GMT
#381
Maru going into factories wtf :D

thor switch?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:46 GMT
#382
WHO CALLED IN THE FLEET
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:46 GMT
#383
On September 15 2018 18:46 Ej_ wrote:
Maru going into factories wtf :D

thor switch?

no idea
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 09:47:43
September 15 2018 09:47 GMT
#384
On September 15 2018 18:46 Ej_ wrote:
Maru going into factories wtf :D

thor switch?


mass mine?
the FanTaSy counter
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Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1796 Posts
September 15 2018 09:48 GMT
#385
Aren't 60 scvs still too many at this stage? Especially for Maru with that bank
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:48 GMT
#386
this is already an extremely good game and a well above average finals
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 09:48 GMT
#387
On September 15 2018 18:48 Zzzapper wrote:
Aren't 60 scvs still too many at this stage? Especially for Maru with that bank

I don't think it even matters, not like you can force a fight with entire army.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 09:48 GMT
#388
so... when is this gonna end?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
September 15 2018 09:49 GMT
#389
On September 15 2018 18:48 Zzzapper wrote:
Aren't 60 scvs still too many at this stage? Especially for Maru with that bank

You still need them to repair because RAVENS.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 09:49 GMT
#390
lol the upgrades, the BCs...crazy game
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Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
September 15 2018 09:49 GMT
#391
We back in WoL.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:49 GMT
#392
beautiful
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 09:49 GMT
#393
TY is getting massively wrecked in the late game
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 09:49 GMT
#394
On September 15 2018 18:48 Charoisaur wrote:
so... when is this gonna end?

soon?
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Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
September 15 2018 09:49 GMT
#395
INSANEEEEEEEEEEE BY MARU
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
September 15 2018 09:49 GMT
#396
How did TY lose so many BCs?
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1796 Posts
September 15 2018 09:49 GMT
#397
God damn that was tight
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:50 GMT
#398
Maru you monster
romson87
Profile Joined May 2016
Poland487 Posts
September 15 2018 09:50 GMT
#399
Unreal
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Noa Greenini
Profile Joined April 2015
265 Posts
September 15 2018 09:50 GMT
#400
TY 4-0 ;-)
Noa Greenini looks like the superior LR poster - Charoisaur 04/05/2019 (Serral vs Showtime match)
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 15 2018 09:50 GMT
#401
yeeeeees
Community News
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Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
September 15 2018 09:51 GMT
#402
Boxer vs Rain flashbacks.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:51 GMT
#403
5* finals already
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 09:51 GMT
#404
jesus fuck, 2-2 baby!
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 09:51 GMT
#405
These two players are godlike
Best starcraft II players currently!
WriterMaru
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
September 15 2018 09:51 GMT
#406
EPIC insanity
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 09:51 GMT
#407
This is why nobody can rival Tastosis. epic casting
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
September 15 2018 09:51 GMT
#408
Battlescruiser, Operational.
Someone call down the Thunder?
ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
September 15 2018 09:51 GMT
#409
well that was epic
I like Dark
litLikeBic
Profile Joined August 2018
Canada105 Posts
September 15 2018 09:51 GMT
#410
okay. maru is a bonjwa
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 09:51 GMT
#411
great backup strat for when your proxy fails
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Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
September 15 2018 09:51 GMT
#412
I love this series
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
September 15 2018 09:51 GMT
#413
Absolutely epic game. I haven't seen BCs in LOTV before in a pro game.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
GreasedUpDeafGuy
Profile Joined August 2018
United States398 Posts
September 15 2018 09:52 GMT
#414
Decent game there
Cant catch me. You're wasting your time
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
September 15 2018 09:52 GMT
#415
Battlecruisers in GSL finals again! Never thought I'd see the day! Insane kill move from Maru; I really felt like TY had an equal chance there.
ModeratorFather of bunnies
norterrible
Profile Joined October 2009
United States618 Posts
September 15 2018 09:52 GMT
#416
that game was why i woke up at 4am. the rest can be short proxy games, that was worth it.
kekeke
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
September 15 2018 09:52 GMT
#417
Insane game.
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 09:52 GMT
#418
ok yea this proxy mindgame is gonna be insane for game 5
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 15 2018 09:52 GMT
#419
TY remembered he's up 2-0 as usual...
sunbeams are never made like me...
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:52 GMT
#420
honestly this has the potential to surpass Mvp - Squirtle. And we're more or less guaranteed the g7 cheese ^^
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
September 15 2018 09:52 GMT
#421
I may have missed something, how was TY suddenly down 60 army supply?
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
September 15 2018 09:52 GMT
#422
this tvt was almost as good as taeja v bogus '13
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
September 15 2018 09:52 GMT
#423
Did you see Maru's base? What the hell man, he had buildings EVERYWHERE and like a 6k/7k bank... TY dropped his main and I'm like? ... yeah but the whole bottom half of the map is his main?
GreasedUpDeafGuy
Profile Joined August 2018
United States398 Posts
September 15 2018 09:52 GMT
#424
Artosis confirmed creationist, lol
Cant catch me. You're wasting your time
VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
689 Posts
September 15 2018 09:52 GMT
#425
EPIC game
such an amazing finals, with the proxies, the 2-0, the start of the comeback into an epic macro game and the terrific casting from Tastosis

<3 SC2
My life for Aiur !
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
September 15 2018 09:53 GMT
#426
I'm having fun, let's go, keep this up guys!
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
September 15 2018 09:53 GMT
#427
On September 15 2018 18:51 Charoisaur wrote:
This is why nobody can rival Tastosis. epic casting



Thats so true. Ive watched every single esport out there and no duo can match them imo
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 09:53 GMT
#428
On September 15 2018 18:52 Ziggy wrote:
this tvt was almost as good as taeja v bogus '13

hard to compare, I'm generally not a fan of those split map games but this was really the best of its kind.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
September 15 2018 09:53 GMT
#429
I can't believe Maru is trolling GSL finals by proxy every time and still winning maps :D
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:53 GMT
#430
On September 15 2018 18:52 VHbb wrote:
EPIC game
such an amazing finals, with the proxies, the 2-0, the start of the comeback into an epic macro game and the terrific casting from Tastosis

<3 SC2

possibly the best gsl finals depending on the 2 or (hoping for) 3 next games
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
September 15 2018 09:53 GMT
#431
On September 15 2018 18:52 yht9657 wrote:
I may have missed something, how was TY suddenly down 60 army supply?


Maru jumped his BCs with superior numbers and hit his air fleet at the same time.
ModeratorFather of bunnies
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 09:53 GMT
#432
TY seemed worse in this one from start to finish, Maru had faster upgrades, better economy, didn't hemorrhage units, just overall better in mid-late game.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 15 2018 09:53 GMT
#433
2-2 boys, we have a real series
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 09:53 GMT
#434
On September 15 2018 18:53 MarianoSC2 wrote:
I can't believe Maru is trolling GSL finals by proxy every time and still winning maps :D

Hahah, yeah! He would've already 4-0d if he had tried to play at 100% :D
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 15 2018 09:53 GMT
#435
On September 15 2018 18:52 [PkF] Wire wrote:
honestly this has the potential to surpass Mvp - Squirtle. And we're more or less guaranteed the g7 cheese ^^


Nothing in the whole world can surpass Archon Toilet of BCs.
sunbeams are never made like me...
romson87
Profile Joined May 2016
Poland487 Posts
September 15 2018 09:54 GMT
#436
TY gonna proxy his way towards victory next two games :-D
TL+ Member
jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
September 15 2018 09:54 GMT
#437
On September 15 2018 18:53 MarianoSC2 wrote:
I can't believe Maru is trolling GSL finals by proxy every time and still winning maps :D


He just does it to see if they're worth playing the game against him basically.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 09:54 GMT
#438
TY is in a lot of troubles if he dies to the incoming proxy.
Mentally it'd break him imo
WriterMaru
xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
September 15 2018 09:54 GMT
#439
We have finally solved the GSL grand finals issue : simply put 2 terrans =)
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 09:54 GMT
#440
On September 15 2018 18:54 Poopi wrote:
TY is in a lot of troubles if he dies to the incoming proxy.
Mentally it'd break him imo

time to proxy himself
Melix
Profile Joined December 2010
United States89 Posts
September 15 2018 09:54 GMT
#441
I was about to ask why doesn't Maru go for macro games every time, but proxy rax doesn't preclude that possibility, so....
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
September 15 2018 09:54 GMT
#442
On September 15 2018 18:53 outscar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 18:52 [PkF] Wire wrote:
honestly this has the potential to surpass Mvp - Squirtle. And we're more or less guaranteed the g7 cheese ^^


Nothing in the whole world can surpass Archon Toilet of BCs.


For me; that game 7 was such edge of the seat stuff. For F1 fans; same feeling as Interlagos '08.
ModeratorFather of bunnies
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 09:54 GMT
#443
On September 15 2018 18:53 IshinShishi wrote:
TY seemed worse in this one from start to finish, Maru had faster upgrades, better economy, didn't hemorrhage units, just overall better in mid-late game.

"didn't hemorrhage units" except the double drop he lost for free.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
September 15 2018 09:55 GMT
#444
Proxy 2 raxes into Bcs. The real Terran meta. _(:3」∠)_
ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
September 15 2018 09:55 GMT
#445
4-2 maru
I like Dark
VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
689 Posts
September 15 2018 09:56 GMT
#446
How epic it was when Maru started to move in with the Vikings and Ravens pre-splitted from a large arc, just before the BCs jump and then suddendly... BAM Battlecruisers!

My life for Aiur !
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 09:56 GMT
#447
On September 15 2018 18:53 MarianoSC2 wrote:
I can't believe Maru is trolling GSL finals by proxy every time and still winning maps :D

he's still in Asian Games mode
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IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 09:57 GMT
#448
On September 15 2018 18:54 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 18:53 IshinShishi wrote:
TY seemed worse in this one from start to finish, Maru had faster upgrades, better economy, didn't hemorrhage units, just overall better in mid-late game.

"didn't hemorrhage units" except the double drop he lost for free.

That was pretty much his only major mistake, which allowed TY to get even and got us this amazing late game battle.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
agsub
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore368 Posts
September 15 2018 09:57 GMT
#449
That was an amazing BC game
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 09:58 GMT
#450
On September 15 2018 18:56 VHbb wrote:
How epic it was when Maru started to move in with the Vikings and Ravens pre-splitted from a large arc, just before the BCs jump and then suddendly... BAM Battlecruisers!


it was well timed, game-winning move
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 09:59 GMT
#451
What if TY proxies and just kills Maru?
:D
seems like he is afraid to proxy and play safe with double gas
WriterMaru
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4010 Posts
September 15 2018 09:59 GMT
#452
on this picture TY looks like Bran from later seasons of GoT. In a sense that you remember his looks from when he was Baby and now its weird because its the same kid but somehow bigger
Drone is a way of living
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 09:59 GMT
#453
On September 15 2018 18:59 Poopi wrote:
What if TY proxies and just kills Maru?
:D
seems like he is afraid to proxy and play safe with double gas

if TY proxies we'll get a weird baserace
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
September 15 2018 10:00 GMT
#454
This finals has been really good. Proxy game 5 pls
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 15 2018 10:00 GMT
#455
Was he trolling first 2 games or what?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Melix
Profile Joined December 2010
United States89 Posts
September 15 2018 10:00 GMT
#456
On September 15 2018 18:59 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 18:59 Poopi wrote:
What if TY proxies and just kills Maru?
:D
seems like he is afraid to proxy and play safe with double gas

if TY proxies we'll get a weird baserace


Gotta like Maru's chances in a proxy base race.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 10:01 GMT
#457
here's the game-winning move
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 15 2018 10:01 GMT
#458
On September 15 2018 19:00 deacon.frost wrote:
Was he trolling first 2 games or what?

No and stfu with that bs, my god
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 15 2018 10:01 GMT
#459
On September 15 2018 18:59 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
on this picture TY looks like Bran from later seasons of GoT. In a sense that you remember his looks from when he was Baby and now its weird because its the same kid but somehow bigger


Lol
sunbeams are never made like me...
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
September 15 2018 10:02 GMT
#460
On September 15 2018 18:53 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 18:53 MarianoSC2 wrote:
I can't believe Maru is trolling GSL finals by proxy every time and still winning maps :D

Hahah, yeah! He would've already 4-0d if he had tried to play at 100% :D


haha!
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
September 15 2018 10:04 GMT
#461
Maru cheesing, by not proxying.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
September 15 2018 10:04 GMT
#462
The fuck is wrong with you maru?
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
September 15 2018 10:04 GMT
#463
During the break, Kaelaris posted in Twitch chat he wants to see a clean sweep of all three GSL seasons by Maru.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
September 15 2018 10:04 GMT
#464
I expected him to stop after the first 4.
Someone call down the Thunder?
romson87
Profile Joined May 2016
Poland487 Posts
September 15 2018 10:05 GMT
#465
Disappointed.
TL+ Member
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 15 2018 10:05 GMT
#466
On September 15 2018 19:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:00 deacon.frost wrote:
Was he trolling first 2 games or what?

No and stfu with that bs, my god

stfu yourself and I'm not your god, don't want such bad worshippers.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 10:06 GMT
#467
woops...
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 15 2018 10:06 GMT
#468
On September 15 2018 19:05 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:00 deacon.frost wrote:
Was he trolling first 2 games or what?

No and stfu with that bs, my god

stfu yourself and I'm not your god, don't want such bad worshippers.

If you cannot respect TY's play when maru does you are just insane
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 10:06 GMT
#469
On September 15 2018 19:05 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:00 deacon.frost wrote:
Was he trolling first 2 games or what?

No and stfu with that bs, my god

stfu yourself and I'm not your god, don't want such bad worshippers.

yeah, maru just decided not to play serious cuz he doesnt respect TY as an opponent, now hes trying tho so he will win!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
September 15 2018 10:06 GMT
#470
haha sup. nice try
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 10:07 GMT
#471
got slightly too close
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 10:11 GMT
#472
TY not looking as sharp anymore. Feel like he would have won there had he played like game 1 or 2.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
September 15 2018 10:13 GMT
#473
One fucking more, come oooon TY
Hello
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 10:13 GMT
#474
most effective viking harass I've ever seen
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
September 15 2018 10:13 GMT
#475
On September 15 2018 19:11 sneakyfox wrote:
TY not looking as sharp anymore. Feel like he would have won there had he played like game 1 or 2.

?!
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 15 2018 10:13 GMT
#476
no proxy no win
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 10:13 GMT
#477
why send the liberator around? I think it would've been better with the attack
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 10:13 GMT
#478
On September 15 2018 19:11 sneakyfox wrote:
TY not looking as sharp anymore. Feel like he would have won there had he played like game 1 or 2.


What a nice anti-jinx
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 10:13 GMT
#479
1 MORE, 1 MORE
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
September 15 2018 10:13 GMT
#480
Maru did not have to go for that, what the hell
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
September 15 2018 10:13 GMT
#481
Ty is much better in early game, whereas maru macro and late game positioning is soo good
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 10:13 GMT
#482
THE BEST TVT PLAYER IN THE WORLD

TAE







JA
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 10:13 GMT
#483
On September 15 2018 19:11 sneakyfox wrote:
TY not looking as sharp anymore. Feel like he would have won there had he played like game 1 or 2.


Tasteless, is that you?
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 10:14 GMT
#484
those two vikings did so much, way too much for just two vikings.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 10:14 GMT
#485
On September 15 2018 19:13 Ej_ wrote:
THE BEST TVT PLAYER IN THE WORLD

TAE







JA


THANK YOU
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
September 15 2018 10:14 GMT
#486
On September 15 2018 19:13 Noonius wrote:
1 MORE, 1 MORE



yess com'on TYTY
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 10:14 GMT
#487
On September 15 2018 19:13 Ej_ wrote:
THE BEST TVT PLAYER IN THE WORLD

TAE







JA

Isn't that the guy who didn't even win a GSL?
WriterMaru
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
September 15 2018 10:14 GMT
#488
On September 15 2018 19:13 Ej_ wrote:
THE BEST TVT PLAYER IN THE WORLD

TAE







JA


Two wrists away from truth unfortunately.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 10:14 GMT
#489
Pink is a good color for Princess
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
September 15 2018 10:15 GMT
#490
Juanito > JAGW coaching
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 10:15 GMT
#491
On September 15 2018 19:14 IshinShishi wrote:
those two vikings did so much, way too much for just two vikings.

yea, caught him hard between production cycles
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 10:15 GMT
#492
holy shit come on TY!

JUST

ONE

MORE
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
September 15 2018 10:15 GMT
#493
On September 15 2018 19:13 Argonauta wrote:
Ty is much better in early game, whereas maru macro and late game positioning is soo good

Seems so, but as TY said before the games, early game will decide this series.

Let's go Splyce!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
September 15 2018 10:15 GMT
#494
SpeCial coaching TY before game 6.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 10:15 GMT
#495
On September 15 2018 19:15 yht9657 wrote:
Juanito > JAGW coaching


yet another proof that foreigners are so much better than Koreans
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
September 15 2018 10:16 GMT
#496
Maru made it to 4 consecutive GSL finals?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
September 15 2018 10:16 GMT
#497
On September 15 2018 19:14 Serimek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:13 Ej_ wrote:
THE BEST TVT PLAYER IN THE WORLD

TAE







JA


Two wrists away from truth unfortunately.

Mvp's lack of spine didn't stop him
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 10:16 GMT
#498
back to the roots
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
September 15 2018 10:16 GMT
#499
holy shit, Maru is crazy
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 10:17 GMT
#500
TY, just kill him
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 10:17 GMT
#501
my heart can't take this
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yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
September 15 2018 10:17 GMT
#502
TY unlucky with scouting once again.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:17 GMT
#503
OK Maru this is the real test
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
September 15 2018 10:18 GMT
#504
The PROXY IS ALWAYS IN THE SAME PLACE TY!!!!
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 15 2018 10:19 GMT
#505
holy that hellion shot
Liquipedia"Expert"
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
September 15 2018 10:19 GMT
#506
Maru is so disgusting with these reaper cheese
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:19 GMT
#507
serious micro jesus
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
September 15 2018 10:19 GMT
#508
that hellion double kill might've won TY the game
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
September 15 2018 10:20 GMT
#509
Helion popping out killing 2 was clutch
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
September 15 2018 10:20 GMT
#510
On September 15 2018 19:19 Mun_Su wrote:
Maru is so disgusting with these reaper cheese



I wouldn't call cheese at this point. Its just his standard macro opener
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 10:20 GMT
#511
On September 15 2018 19:19 Mun_Su wrote:
Maru is so disgusting with these reaper cheese

It's a shit build vs double gas factory tho
Maru makes it look close because he microes very well but it's kinda bo loss vs what TY is doing
WriterMaru
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
September 15 2018 10:20 GMT
#512
If Maru could never kill TY with proxy reaper does that mean TY has better micro?
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 15 2018 10:20 GMT
#513
Does Maru expect ty to fast expand?
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
September 15 2018 10:20 GMT
#514
It's just absurd that every single proxy attempt by Maru has been defended by TY.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 15 2018 10:20 GMT
#515
TY! Now or never, get your damn Code S trophy boy!
sunbeams are never made like me...
IMSupervisor
Profile Joined June 2016
Australia138 Posts
September 15 2018 10:21 GMT
#516
Will Maru follow up again with a 3rd CC and die to a 2 base TY push again?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 10:21 GMT
#517
On September 15 2018 19:20 yoshi245 wrote:
It's just absurd that every single proxy attempt by Maru has been defended by TY.

Defended? TY fell behind on 16-bit
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 15 2018 10:21 GMT
#518
Maru must've seen Serral's comeback and now he wants to try it too
Liquipedia"Expert"
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 10:22 GMT
#519
why the turrets are so fucking delayed? this makes no sense, absolutely none from maru.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:22 GMT
#520
this is still a game...
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 10:22 GMT
#521
lol nice try, loyal reaper
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 10:23 GMT
#522
wow this has evened out.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
September 15 2018 10:23 GMT
#523
On September 15 2018 19:21 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:20 yoshi245 wrote:
It's just absurd that every single proxy attempt by Maru has been defended by TY.

Defended? TY fell behind on 16-bit

Rephrasing it to it never did enough damage to actually kill TY. So he did defend each attempt quite well.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 10:24 GMT
#524
On September 15 2018 19:23 yoshi245 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:21 Ej_ wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:20 yoshi245 wrote:
It's just absurd that every single proxy attempt by Maru has been defended by TY.

Defended? TY fell behind on 16-bit

Rephrasing it to it never did enough damage to actually kill TY. So he did defend each attempt quite well.

2rax isn't supposed to kill anything, but reaper FE. What Maru gets done is usually enough.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:25 GMT
#525
Maru is navigating this game incredible so far
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 10:25 GMT
#526
Can TY catch up?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 10:27 GMT
#527
This game!!

Maru
gogogo
what a fucking close game
WriterMaru
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:28 GMT
#528
come on Maru bring it to g7 please
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 10:29:39
September 15 2018 10:28 GMT
#529
Maru has finally met his match.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
September 15 2018 10:28 GMT
#530
Lets Go M A R U !!
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:28 GMT
#531
On September 15 2018 19:27 Poopi wrote:
This game!!

Maru
gogogo
what a fucking close game

yeah I've been on the edge on my seat since the beginning ^^
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 15 2018 10:28 GMT
#532
Somebody wants to be the new best final
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:28 GMT
#533
On September 15 2018 19:28 Morbidius wrote:
Maru has finally met his match,

and I'm loving every single minute of it ^^
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
September 15 2018 10:28 GMT
#534
so tense
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 10:30 GMT
#535
this is not lookin good
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
September 15 2018 10:31 GMT
#536
TY upgrades too far behind, it's over.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 15 2018 10:31 GMT
#537
Looking like a game 7
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:31 GMT
#538
My God what a series
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 15 2018 10:31 GMT
#539
On September 15 2018 19:28 Sif_ wrote:
so tense

I'm going to have a heart attack.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Noa Greenini
Profile Joined April 2015
265 Posts
September 15 2018 10:31 GMT
#540
Calling it: TY 4-0
Noa Greenini looks like the superior LR poster - Charoisaur 04/05/2019 (Serral vs Showtime match)
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 10:31 GMT
#541
game 7
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
September 15 2018 10:31 GMT
#542
How did maru turn this one around? My god
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:32 GMT
#543
GG
G7
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 10:32 GMT
#544
oh my god game 7
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 15 2018 10:32 GMT
#545
Maru will now win 4-3 as predicted
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 10:32 GMT
#546
GAME SEVEN
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
September 15 2018 10:32 GMT
#547
MACRO OPENING
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 10:32 GMT
#548
god damn, TY
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
September 15 2018 10:32 GMT
#549
Atlas game 7 hype
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 10:32 GMT
#550
not sure I can watch this
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
September 15 2018 10:32 GMT
#551
On September 15 2018 19:31 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:28 Sif_ wrote:
so tense

I'm going to have a heart attack.


Nice to see a fellow brazilian!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
September 15 2018 10:32 GMT
#552
I want TY to proxy now!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
September 15 2018 10:32 GMT
#553
TvT DA BEST
Someone call down the Thunder?
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 10:32 GMT
#554
Fuck
fuck
fuck

TY it's now time for you to prove you are not a choker

Maru it's now time for you to prove you are the GOAT

WriterMaru
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 10:32 GMT
#555
TY is that smart kid that tries really hard, Maru is a god, who wins?
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
September 15 2018 10:32 GMT
#556
the one no proxy game coming up?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
689 Posts
September 15 2018 10:32 GMT
#557
this is a good Saturday morning
My life for Aiur !
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:32 GMT
#558
one of the best grand finals. Let's see g7.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 15 2018 10:32 GMT
#559
On September 15 2018 19:32 Sif_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:31 Morbidius wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:28 Sif_ wrote:
so tense

I'm going to have a heart attack.


Nice to see a fellow brazilian!

Yeah.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
September 15 2018 10:32 GMT
#560
look likes TY is often behind in upgrades
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 10:33:12
September 15 2018 10:33 GMT
#561
Maru will just proxy random spawn location and find it by sheer luck while TY goes reaper FE.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 15 2018 10:33 GMT
#562
On September 15 2018 19:32 Charoisaur wrote:
not sure I can watch this

dude this series kills me, literally
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 10:33 GMT
#563
On September 15 2018 19:32 Charoisaur wrote:
not sure I can watch this


Me neither
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
September 15 2018 10:33 GMT
#564
On September 15 2018 19:32 IshinShishi wrote:
TY is that smart kid that tries really hard, Maru is a god, who wins?

Kratos
I Protoss winner, could it be?
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
September 15 2018 10:33 GMT
#565
2 rax at home.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:33 GMT
#566
On September 15 2018 19:33 Ej_ wrote:
Maru will just proxy random spawn location and find it by sheer luck while TY goes reaper FE.

switch TY with Maru and this would be amazing ^^
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
September 15 2018 10:33 GMT
#567
This actually might be the best GSL finals ever. Eight god damn years and at last the GSL finals curse is lifted.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 15 2018 10:33 GMT
#568
fwiw, TY is as close to a guarantee of a good finals that you can get
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
September 15 2018 10:34 GMT
#569
This series is actually going exactly the same way as GSLvs the World finals in terms of game won order.
StabiloBoss20
Profile Joined July 2015
313 Posts
September 15 2018 10:34 GMT
#570
TvT on this level.... so intense. every small move feels like a potential gamedecider.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 15 2018 10:34 GMT
#571
Crazy, imo we had the worst finals ever last season and now the best one ever
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:34 GMT
#572
On September 15 2018 19:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:32 Charoisaur wrote:
not sure I can watch this

dude this series kills me, literally

this is just too good, we're not used to such finals anymore
can't even remember the last time we got a good grand finals since Mvp Squirtle
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
September 15 2018 10:34 GMT
#573
I just hoped TY may win.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
689 Posts
September 15 2018 10:34 GMT
#574
I don't even know if I'm rooting for Maru or TY, but I'm quite anxious before G7
My life for Aiur !
Brandish
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States339 Posts
September 15 2018 10:34 GMT
#575
MARU REDEFINING PROXIES
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
September 15 2018 10:34 GMT
#576
Ok, this is it. Game 7, TY vs Maru, clearly they are neck and neck in TvT.

Maru needs special proxy award though xD
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Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1796 Posts
September 15 2018 10:34 GMT
#577
Artosis forgot the greatest 4-3 Code S finals
+ Show Spoiler +
Sniper vs. Hyun
Melix
Profile Joined December 2010
United States89 Posts
September 15 2018 10:34 GMT
#578
Can Serral get through both of these guys and Rogue, Stats, etc at Blizzcon?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 10:35 GMT
#579
On September 15 2018 19:34 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:32 Charoisaur wrote:
not sure I can watch this

dude this series kills me, literally

this is just too good, we're not used to such finals anymore
can't even remember the last time we got a good grand finals since Mvp Squirtle

Inno vs sOs?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
September 15 2018 10:35 GMT
#580
This is brilliant, two master tacticians going at it. I'm so nervous for G7! Go Maru!
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
September 15 2018 10:35 GMT
#581
"The age of Maru"
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 10:35 GMT
#582
On September 15 2018 19:34 Zzzapper wrote:
Artosis forgot the greatest 4-3 Code S finals
+ Show Spoiler +
Sniper vs. Hyun

heavily underrated finals
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
September 15 2018 10:35 GMT
#583
man sniper vs hyun was bad
The Bomber boy
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 10:35 GMT
#584
On September 15 2018 19:34 Zzzapper wrote:
Artosis forgot the greatest 4-3 Code S finals
+ Show Spoiler +
Sniper vs. Hyun

I liked Symbol vs RorO more.
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ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
September 15 2018 10:35 GMT
#585
On September 15 2018 19:34 Zzzapper wrote:
Artosis forgot the greatest 4-3 Code S finals
+ Show Spoiler +
Sniper vs. Hyun


Omg Voldemort even won!
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
September 15 2018 10:35 GMT
#586
It's time for TY to finally do a proxy rax.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 10:36 GMT
#587
Look at you guys way more nervous than the players themselves lol
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 15 2018 10:36 GMT
#588
On September 15 2018 19:34 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:32 Charoisaur wrote:
not sure I can watch this

dude this series kills me, literally

this is just too good, we're not used to such finals anymore
can't even remember the last time we got a good grand finals since Mvp Squirtle

Definitely the best code s finals in a long time, but i am biased because i cheer hard for maru and it's so tense
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:36 GMT
#589
On September 15 2018 19:35 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:34 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:32 Charoisaur wrote:
not sure I can watch this

dude this series kills me, literally

this is just too good, we're not used to such finals anymore
can't even remember the last time we got a good grand finals since Mvp Squirtle

Inno vs sOs?

true that was ok. Definitely strange but ok.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 10:36 GMT
#590
WHY WONT IT START ALREADY
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
September 15 2018 10:36 GMT
#591
On September 15 2018 19:34 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:32 Charoisaur wrote:
not sure I can watch this

dude this series kills me, literally

this is just too good, we're not used to such finals anymore
can't even remember the last time we got a good grand finals since Mvp Squirtle


Oh yeah! Somehow forgot about MVP vs Squirtle. Okay thats still all time best, this is second best, I think.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
September 15 2018 10:36 GMT
#592
On September 15 2018 19:35 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:34 Zzzapper wrote:
Artosis forgot the greatest 4-3 Code S finals
+ Show Spoiler +
Sniper vs. Hyun

I liked Symbol vs RorO more.

Wasn't 4-3 though
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GreasedUpDeafGuy
Profile Joined August 2018
United States398 Posts
September 15 2018 10:36 GMT
#593
4-3 is actually the most common GSL finals finish
Cant catch me. You're wasting your time
Colouss
Profile Joined November 2013
United States501 Posts
September 15 2018 10:36 GMT
#594
On September 15 2018 19:36 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:34 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:32 Charoisaur wrote:
not sure I can watch this

dude this series kills me, literally

this is just too good, we're not used to such finals anymore
can't even remember the last time we got a good grand finals since Mvp Squirtle

Definitely the best code s finals in a long time, but i am biased because i cheer hard for maru and it's so tense


That game 4 was really damn good. Glad it could get to 7 games.
Chinese teams flair when
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:36 GMT
#595
On September 15 2018 19:36 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:34 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:32 Charoisaur wrote:
not sure I can watch this

dude this series kills me, literally

this is just too good, we're not used to such finals anymore
can't even remember the last time we got a good grand finals since Mvp Squirtle

Definitely the best code s finals in a long time, but i am biased because i cheer hard for maru and it's so tense

I'm pretty sure a good g7 could propel it best gsl finals ever
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:37 GMT
#596
On September 15 2018 19:36 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:34 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:32 Charoisaur wrote:
not sure I can watch this

dude this series kills me, literally

this is just too good, we're not used to such finals anymore
can't even remember the last time we got a good grand finals since Mvp Squirtle


Oh yeah! Somehow forgot about MVP vs Squirtle. Okay thats still all time best, this is second best, I think.

honestly I think that's debatable already and g7 is still to come. Double proxy in the middle of the map please.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 10:37 GMT
#597
On September 15 2018 19:36 GreasedUpDeafGuy wrote:
4-3 is actually the most common GSL finals finish

4-2 is by far the most common score. Just ask soO
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 15 2018 10:38 GMT
#598
On September 15 2018 19:35 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:34 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:32 Charoisaur wrote:
not sure I can watch this

dude this series kills me, literally

this is just too good, we're not used to such finals anymore
can't even remember the last time we got a good grand finals since Mvp Squirtle

Inno vs sOs?

I don't like that one, it was mostly decided by build order wins or tiny tactical mistakes.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
September 15 2018 10:38 GMT
#599
life mvp was good but the ending sucked
The Bomber boy
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
September 15 2018 10:38 GMT
#600
Noonius - Viper 3 - 3
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
September 15 2018 10:38 GMT
#601
No proxy, Ty got this
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:38 GMT
#602
pfffff wussies
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
September 15 2018 10:38 GMT
#603
Booo, none of these guys has balls. Mvp's proxy rax would already be up by now.
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RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
September 15 2018 10:38 GMT
#604
No Gimmicks now.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
September 15 2018 10:38 GMT
#605
On September 15 2018 19:38 Penev wrote:
Noonius - Viper 3 - 3

We need an LR showmatch between those two
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 15 2018 10:38 GMT
#606
This is tense
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 10:39 GMT
#607
On September 15 2018 19:38 Penev wrote:
Noonius - Viper 3 - 3


I hate you so much
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
September 15 2018 10:39 GMT
#608
On September 15 2018 19:38 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Booo, none of these guys has balls. Mvp's proxy rax would already be up by now.

truth
The Bomber boy
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
September 15 2018 10:39 GMT
#609
On September 15 2018 19:32 Penev wrote:
the one no proxy game coming up?

called it
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 10:39 GMT
#610
you know, normally I don't talk shit about crowd giving away proxies, but when they don't proxy then they do player introductions and the crowd cheers each players' name...seems kinda obvious?
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IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 10:39 GMT
#611
On September 15 2018 19:38 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Booo, none of these guys has balls. Mvp's proxy rax would already be up by now.

Agreed, nobody can top the Jurgen.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 10:39 GMT
#612
On September 15 2018 19:39 Die4Ever wrote:
you know, normally I don't talk shit about crowd giving away proxies, but when they don't proxy then they do player introductions and the crowd cheers each players' name...seems kinda obvious?

You literally can't hear or see the crowd as a player.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
September 15 2018 10:40 GMT
#613
On September 15 2018 19:39 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:38 Penev wrote:
Noonius - Viper 3 - 3


I hate you so much

I'm just happy to have made the list <3
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 15 2018 10:40 GMT
#614
On September 15 2018 19:39 Die4Ever wrote:
you know, normally I don't talk shit about crowd giving away proxies, but when they don't proxy then they do player introductions and the crowd cheers each players' name...seems kinda obvious?

Any GSL players can tell us if its really like that?
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:40 GMT
#615
On September 15 2018 19:39 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:38 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Booo, none of these guys has balls. Mvp's proxy rax would already be up by now.

Agreed, nobody can top the Jurgen.

the 4 spawns probably cooled their ardors
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 10:40:57
September 15 2018 10:40 GMT
#616
On September 15 2018 19:39 Die4Ever wrote:
you know, normally I don't talk shit about crowd giving away proxies, but when they don't proxy then they do player introductions and the crowd cheers each players' name...seems kinda obvious?

I mean the players can't hear the crowd, so it's fine right?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:41 GMT
#617
On September 15 2018 19:40 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:39 Die4Ever wrote:
you know, normally I don't talk shit about crowd giving away proxies, but when they don't proxy then they do player introductions and the crowd cheers each players' name...seems kinda obvious?

Any GSL players can tell us if its really like that?

they spill white noise into your ears so you don't hear anything
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
September 15 2018 10:42 GMT
#618
Oh no Maru got shutdown
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 10:42 GMT
#619
finally TY makes turrets
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 10:42 GMT
#620
On September 15 2018 19:41 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:40 Morbidius wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:39 Die4Ever wrote:
you know, normally I don't talk shit about crowd giving away proxies, but when they don't proxy then they do player introductions and the crowd cheers each players' name...seems kinda obvious?

Any GSL players can tell us if its really like that?

they spill white noise into your ears so you don't hear anything

I don't remember seeing you in GSL. How far did you advance?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:42 GMT
#621
tricky spot for Maru, but he's such a champion...
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 10:44:08
September 15 2018 10:42 GMT
#622
Game 7 just like previous WESG finals. Will TY do some allin like last time? In finals if game goes into 7 TY always does something do-or-die allinish thing like he did vs. Stats and Maru.
sunbeams are never made like me...
djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
September 15 2018 10:42 GMT
#623
TY with a huge lead !
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:43 GMT
#624
On September 15 2018 19:42 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:41 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:40 Morbidius wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:39 Die4Ever wrote:
you know, normally I don't talk shit about crowd giving away proxies, but when they don't proxy then they do player introductions and the crowd cheers each players' name...seems kinda obvious?

Any GSL players can tell us if its really like that?

they spill white noise into your ears so you don't hear anything

I don't remember seeing you in GSL. How far did you advance?

I didn't have to, I just repeat what Scarlett says
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:43 GMT
#625
ok this is it
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#626
THREEPEAT
Liquipedia"Expert"
romson87
Profile Joined May 2016
Poland487 Posts
September 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#627
Wow TY got this
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#628
B O N J W A ! ! ! ! !
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#629
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#630
MARUUUUU
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
September 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#631
Oh my god!!!!
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Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
September 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#632
what the hell just happened.
Noa Greenini
Profile Joined April 2015
265 Posts
September 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#633
GG!
Noa Greenini looks like the superior LR poster - Charoisaur 04/05/2019 (Serral vs Showtime match)
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#634
heartbreaking even though I cheer for Maru
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
September 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#635
GG, WP Maru.
Surprised TY didn't even make a single tank.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
September 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#636
well that's it

Viper happily died
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
September 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#637
Fucking hell. FUCK.

Grats Maru though.
Hello
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
September 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#638
rip
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#639
MARU MARU MARU MARU MARU MARU MARU MARU MARU MARUJ ASDJASIDISADJIASDOPXZC
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#640
Bonjwa.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
zakadar
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany409 Posts
September 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#641
not like this
TY my boy gogo
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
September 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#642
my god. what a beast.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
September 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#643
Maru CLEAN SWEEP 2018!!!!!!!!
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RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
September 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#644
THE 3 TIME
Someone call down the Thunder?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#645
how fitting that Maru wins with the push that gave him so much trouble this series
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Melix
Profile Joined December 2010
United States89 Posts
September 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#646
MARU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
September 15 2018 10:45 GMT
#647
get...out. maru time sons.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 10:45:06
September 15 2018 10:45 GMT
#648
with such a finals to get the 3 peat the goat discussion indeed ceases right now.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 10:45 GMT
#649
oh to hell with this
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
September 15 2018 10:45 GMT
#650
wow. definition of decisiveness.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 10:45 GMT
#651
fuck, they will get unbearable now
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
September 15 2018 10:45 GMT
#652
MARUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!
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ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
September 15 2018 10:45 GMT
#653
lol all wcs and gsl's won by one player
I like Dark
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
September 15 2018 10:45 GMT
#654
OIUHFHUO8WIEUHFOIUDNBCIBNSDVPUIJBDGIU BWGO9UIKNHwedgvouijkn hVSO9UJBN JwedgfiounsDGFIOUNHASDGIUHN
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 10:45 GMT
#655
OMMGGGGG!!! SO GOOD
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
September 15 2018 10:45 GMT
#656
Noooo TY, rip .

But Maru deserves it I guess, what a sick player.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 15 2018 10:45 GMT
#657
THE B WORD
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Upshot
Profile Joined January 2014
7 Posts
September 15 2018 10:45 GMT
#658
PRIIIIME
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
September 15 2018 10:45 GMT
#659
TY greedy as shit and got punished. Sucks but it is what it is.

Serral #1
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sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
September 15 2018 10:45 GMT
#660
Can't be mad at Maru.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 15 2018 10:45 GMT
#661
bonjwa
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
September 15 2018 10:45 GMT
#662
Is Maru the next zerg Bonjwa?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51461 Posts
September 15 2018 10:45 GMT
#663
BONE
GWA?
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romson87
Profile Joined May 2016
Poland487 Posts
September 15 2018 10:46 GMT
#664
OMG
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Melix
Profile Joined December 2010
United States89 Posts
September 15 2018 10:46 GMT
#665
Perfect timing attack. WTF.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 10:46 GMT
#666
do they really have to mention Serral now?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 10:46 GMT
#667
On September 15 2018 19:45 Psychonian wrote:
THE B WORD


bullshit? sounds about right
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6216 Posts
September 15 2018 10:46 GMT
#668
This was a finals where both players deserved to win. Excellent series and congratulations to Maru.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
September 15 2018 10:46 GMT
#669
BANJO
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
September 15 2018 10:46 GMT
#670
OMG!!!! That reminded me so much of Mvp. Great time to pull the boys!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:46 GMT
#671
what are Maru's stats this year ? If we don't use the b word now, I guess we'll never use it.
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
September 15 2018 10:46 GMT
#672
On September 15 2018 19:45 Psychonian wrote:
THE B WORD

Well deserved.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 15 2018 10:46 GMT
#673
just impressive, the 3 gsl for him - has someone done it since the new format ?
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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norterrible
Profile Joined October 2009
United States618 Posts
September 15 2018 10:46 GMT
#674
so happy for maru
kekeke
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
September 15 2018 10:46 GMT
#675
Why did TY give up the choke point in front of his base so easily ?? He had 5 or 6 cyclones and the only thing to spot high ground was 1 flimsy banshee.
tagliatelle
Profile Joined August 2018
Canada69 Posts
September 15 2018 10:46 GMT
#676
He pulls it out at the last second with some insane army control! Maru hhyyyyypppuuuu!
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
September 15 2018 10:46 GMT
#677
Imo nowadays you should get a G5L for your 5th Korean Starleague even if it was a SSL
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 15 2018 10:46 GMT
#678
So TY got greedy as Maru was in the first games and got punished by his own push he had did before, the irony
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
September 15 2018 10:46 GMT
#679
good for maru.
maru vs serral would be the perfect fit for blizzcon finals
I like Dark
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 15 2018 10:47 GMT
#680
On September 15 2018 19:46 Charoisaur wrote:
do they really have to mention Serral now?


Only natural
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
StabiloBoss20
Profile Joined July 2015
313 Posts
September 15 2018 10:47 GMT
#681
the greatest
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:47 GMT
#682
On September 15 2018 19:46 Makro wrote:
just impressive, the 3 gsl for him - has someone done it since the new format ?

of course not. Even 2 in a row hadn't been done since Nestea
Ishmael
Profile Joined June 2016
92 Posts
September 15 2018 10:47 GMT
#683
Damn, whatta year
The Nature of Infinity is this: That every thing has its own Vortex
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
September 15 2018 10:47 GMT
#684
lol, GSL and Circuit absolutely went to only two players this year lol
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
September 15 2018 10:47 GMT
#685
if rogue is a bonjwa what does that make maru
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 15 2018 10:47 GMT
#686
So sad for TY and happy for Maru! Now one of these defly will take Blizzcon.
sunbeams are never made like me...
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 15 2018 10:47 GMT
#687
Pretty insane the GSL evaded Maru for so long until this year and now he's won 3 in a row xD
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
September 15 2018 10:47 GMT
#688
Sick city!
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 15 2018 10:48 GMT
#689
Maru just has to make Ro8 in ST to overtake Serral's WCS points
Liquipedia"Expert"
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 15 2018 10:48 GMT
#690
On September 15 2018 19:47 Durnuu wrote:
if rogue is a bonjwa what does that make maru

God.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
September 15 2018 10:48 GMT
#691
Second time this year a Splyce/ex-KT player got WWLLWLL'd by someone who dominated his region in a GSL finals.
Just wow.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 10:48 GMT
#692
On September 15 2018 19:47 Durnuu wrote:
if rogue is a bonjwa what does that make maru

Bobonjwa.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Meatloaf
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Spain664 Posts
September 15 2018 10:48 GMT
#693
On September 15 2018 19:46 Kommander wrote:
BANJO


LOL

Congrats to Maru ,his run this last year of GSL has made me come back to watching starcraft
sunnyshine
Profile Joined March 2018
Australia63 Posts
September 15 2018 10:48 GMT
#694
B
sOs is love, sOs is life // the only reason I'm in copper is because protoss OP, I would've won GSL if david kim did his job.
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
September 15 2018 10:48 GMT
#695
On September 15 2018 19:46 Makro wrote:
just impressive, the 3 gsl for him - has someone done it since the new format ?


No one has ever done it
Melix
Profile Joined December 2010
United States89 Posts
September 15 2018 10:48 GMT
#696
Maru calling it - Blizzcon champ.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4010 Posts
September 15 2018 10:48 GMT
#697
man grand slam for Maru! what are the odds of having 2 players in different parts of the world winning all tournaments through a whole year??
If somehow miraculously we get Maru Serral blizzvon finals i will call sorcery. This cannot be real.
Drone is a way of living
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 10:49 GMT
#698
On September 15 2018 19:47 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Pretty insane the GSL evaded Maru for so long until this year and now he's won 3 in a row xD


well, when you have half the Korean players retiring, the field you play against gets pretty thin
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
September 15 2018 10:49 GMT
#699
Yeah i agree
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 15 2018 10:49 GMT
#700
On September 15 2018 19:48 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
man grand slam for Maru! what are the odds of having 2 players in different parts of the world winning all tournaments through a whole year??
If somehow miraculously we get Maru Serral blizzvon finals i will call sorcery. This cannot be real.

would be the best storyline for sure
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 15 2018 10:49 GMT
#701
lmao, idk Maru. Not after how Rogue played against Neeb
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Melix
Profile Joined December 2010
United States89 Posts
September 15 2018 10:49 GMT
#702
The Serral trash talk is strong.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 15 2018 10:49 GMT
#703
Just make blizzcon a Serral vs Maru Bo21
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
September 15 2018 10:49 GMT
#704
Maru wins GSL but is clearly delusional... unfortunate for him.
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:50 GMT
#705
Maru Serral finals would be exceptional. But I wouldn't be surprised if Stats / Rogue / TY peaked for Blizzcon - especially Rogue.
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 15 2018 10:50 GMT
#706
I just cant see rogue as a better zerg than serral
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Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
September 15 2018 10:50 GMT
#707
damn I wanted my boy TY to win so bad T_T
~~~~~
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 10:50:24
September 15 2018 10:50 GMT
#708
On September 15 2018 19:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
Is Maru the next zerg Bonjwa?


yes

also the next Protoss Bonjwa
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 15 2018 10:50 GMT
#709
Stats gonna knock either Serral or Maru out early at Blizzcon and fuck everything up again.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
September 15 2018 10:50 GMT
#710
you know what? I'm going to suppress my korean elitism and root for serral at blizzcon
I Protoss winner, could it be?
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 10:50 GMT
#711
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
September 15 2018 10:50 GMT
#712
On September 15 2018 19:50 Aunvilgodess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
Is Maru the next zerg Bonjwa?


yes

also the next Protoss Bonjwa

hopefully maru isn't the next zerg bonjwa, that would make him a matchfixer
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 15 2018 10:50 GMT
#713
On September 15 2018 19:48 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
man grand slam for Maru! what are the odds of having 2 players in different parts of the world winning all tournaments through a whole year??
If somehow miraculously we get Maru Serral blizzvon finals i will call sorcery. This cannot be real.


They surely need to rig the brackets.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 10:51 GMT
#714
On September 15 2018 19:50 Psychonian wrote:
I just cant see rogue as a better zerg than serral

if he gets to his Blizzcon / Katowice peak he's for sure better.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 10:51 GMT
#715
On September 15 2018 19:46 Pr0wler wrote:
Why did TY give up the choke point in front of his base so easily ?? He had 5 or 6 cyclones and the only thing to spot high ground was 1 flimsy banshee.

maybe he didn't have a scan ready?
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MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
September 15 2018 10:51 GMT
#716
Maru is good, maybe he can put up a good fight against Serral.
Ishmael
Profile Joined June 2016
92 Posts
September 15 2018 10:51 GMT
#717
Honestly, what is Maru lacking in? He's so decisive, so good at macro, so willing to proxy and cheese, amazing positional sense, great micro, doesn't crack under pressure at all ...
The Nature of Infinity is this: That every thing has its own Vortex
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 15 2018 10:51 GMT
#718
On September 15 2018 19:48 Melix wrote:
Maru calling it - Blizzcon champ.


pfft, he can't win in NA land.
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
September 15 2018 10:51 GMT
#719
Nice of Maru to back his teammate, but yeah, Serral is better than Rogue overall. Still, Rogue has a knack for getting hot in weekend tournaments.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
September 15 2018 10:51 GMT
#720
Wow cast iron guarantee from Maru for Blizzcon title, that is chills
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Melix
Profile Joined December 2010
United States89 Posts
September 15 2018 10:51 GMT
#721
Cure/Bunny > Special as practice partners.
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
September 15 2018 10:51 GMT
#722
On September 15 2018 19:50 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Stats gonna knock either Serral or Maru out early at Blizzcon and fuck everything up again.

He should be on Serral's side of the bracket.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:51 GMT
#723
On September 15 2018 19:50 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Stats gonna knock either Serral or Maru out early at Blizzcon and fuck everything up again.

my guess is that they meet earlier because one of them doesn't end first. Maru vs Serral finals would be too unreal.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 10:52 GMT
#724
Ah the new best year of SC2
lol
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 10:52 GMT
#725
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.

It’s already over lol.
3 peat GSL

Probably the best achievement that’ll be done in StarCraft 2 history
WriterMaru
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:53 GMT
#726
On September 15 2018 19:51 Kommander wrote:
Nice of Maru to back his teammate, but yeah, Serral is better than Rogue overall. Still, Rogue has a knack for getting hot in weekend tournaments.

Serral looks better than Rogue right now, but I'm pretty sure Rogue can peak higher than Serral for Blizzcon
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:53 GMT
#727
On September 15 2018 19:52 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.

It’s already over lol.
3 peat GSL

Probably the best achievement that’ll be done in StarCraft 2 history

we have to take the smallest field of competition into account but when I see the level of that finals, I call the debate over too.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 15 2018 10:53 GMT
#728
On September 15 2018 19:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Maru Serral finals would be exceptional. But I wouldn't be surprised if Stats / Rogue / TY peaked for Blizzcon - especially Rogue.

yea Blizzcon champ usually doesn't get in shape until closer to Blizzcon, it's always hard to guess who heats up just in time
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 10:53 GMT
#729
can't wait for overhyped Serral to get slapped at Blizzcon
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
September 15 2018 10:54 GMT
#730
On September 15 2018 19:53 Charoisaur wrote:
can't wait for overhyped Serral to get slapped at Blizzcon

Where do you put Serral right now in a global ranking?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 15 2018 10:55 GMT
#731
On September 15 2018 19:53 Charoisaur wrote:
can't wait for overhyped Serral to get slapped at Blizzcon

Calm down Rodya
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:55 GMT
#732
On September 15 2018 19:53 Charoisaur wrote:
can't wait for overhyped Serral to get slapped at Blizzcon

well I'll be very disappointed and surprised if that happens. My guess is he won't win but do very well, like lose in the semis or finals in very close fashion. Definitely amidst my favorites with TY Rogue Stats and Maru of course.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
September 15 2018 10:55 GMT
#733
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.

field is different, cant compare a dinosaur stepping on a playground to 1500 korean boys knifefighting daily to survive
The Bomber boy
Colouss
Profile Joined November 2013
United States501 Posts
September 15 2018 10:55 GMT
#734
On September 15 2018 19:53 Charoisaur wrote:
can't wait for overhyped Serral to get slapped at Blizzcon


People said the same when GSL vs The World rolled around. Guess how that turned out
Though I think Serral would at least be ro8 level, but we'll see how he fares after the Koreans started prepping for him.
Chinese teams flair when
jy_9876543210
Profile Joined March 2016
265 Posts
September 15 2018 10:56 GMT
#735
OMG maru the bonjwa!
Phase 1: F2    Phase 2: A   Phase 3: Profit!
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:56 GMT
#736
ha ha that collar could very well become too small someday
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
September 15 2018 10:56 GMT
#737
Maru in 10 years or so:

[image loading]
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 10:57 GMT
#738
On September 15 2018 19:55 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.

field is different, cant compare a dinosaur stepping on a playground to 1500 korean boys knifefighting daily to survive

indeed, these are very hard to compare eras.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 10:57 GMT
#739
On September 15 2018 19:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:52 Poopi wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.

It’s already over lol.
3 peat GSL

Probably the best achievement that’ll be done in StarCraft 2 history

we have to take the smallest field of competition into account but when I see the level of that finals, I call the debate over too.

Yeah the initial groups are easier than back then but the top is still as cut throat plus the level of play is quite high overall
WriterMaru
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
September 15 2018 10:57 GMT
#740
whats plain vanilla?
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 10:58:14
September 15 2018 10:57 GMT
#741
Does Maru really need Blizzcon for people to give him credit? If you don't think a guy who won 3 GSL in a row is the best how would winning a weekender against foreigners to prove anything? To me he could go chill at some california beach and he would still be the GOAT.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 10:57 GMT
#742
On September 15 2018 19:54 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:53 Charoisaur wrote:
can't wait for overhyped Serral to get slapped at Blizzcon

Where do you put Serral right now in a global ranking?

difficult to say with the lack of data due to him playing WCS but he'd be somewhere from 2-5.
But the thing that annoys me is that people are acting that Serral is clearly above the top-tier koreans not named Maru and are expecting a Maru - Serral finals.
There's nothing that suggests Serral is better than TY, Stats, Rogue, Dark etc... those have all won korean tournaments and would all easily dominate WCS.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 15 2018 10:57 GMT
#743
On September 15 2018 19:56 BaneRiders wrote:
Maru in 10 years or so:

[image loading]


Hopefully there's still enough tournaments around in Korea for him to win ;;
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 11:00:09
September 15 2018 10:59 GMT
#744
KeeN and Classic only players to take a series off Maru this year in Code S
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jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
September 15 2018 10:59 GMT
#745
Why does Maru have to be so damn good? Hope TY gets his GSL win eventually though.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 10:59 GMT
#746
On September 15 2018 19:59 Inflicted wrote:
KeeN and Classic only players to take a series of Maru this year in Code S

KeeN the goat
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland931 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 11:00:52
September 15 2018 11:00 GMT
#747
On September 15 2018 19:57 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:54 Musicus wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:53 Charoisaur wrote:
can't wait for overhyped Serral to get slapped at Blizzcon

Where do you put Serral right now in a global ranking?

difficult to say with the lack of data due to him playing WCS but he'd be somewhere from 2-5.
But the thing that annoys me is that people are acting that Serral is clearly above the top-tier koreans not named Maru and are expecting a Maru - Serral finals.
There's nothing that suggests Serral is better than TY, Stats, Rogue, Dark etc... those have all won korean tournaments and would all easily dominate WCS.


Counterpoint

[image loading]
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Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 11:00:58
September 15 2018 11:00 GMT
#748
On September 15 2018 19:57 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:54 Musicus wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:53 Charoisaur wrote:
can't wait for overhyped Serral to get slapped at Blizzcon

Where do you put Serral right now in a global ranking?

difficult to say with the lack of data due to him playing WCS but he'd be somewhere from 2-5.
But the thing that annoys me is that people are acting that Serral is clearly above the top-tier koreans not named Maru and are expecting a Maru - Serral finals.
There's nothing that suggests Serral is better than TY, Stats, Rogue, Dark etc... those have all won korean tournaments and would all easily dominate WCS.


I'm not saying that Serral is definitely better than those names you listed....but Serral did beat Stats and Dark in GSL v the World. And he beat Rogue in IEM Katowice. He has shown that he can beat top Koreans.
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
September 15 2018 11:01 GMT
#749
On September 15 2018 19:50 Psychonian wrote:
I just cant see rogue as a better zerg than serral


the sample size is still only one single tournament.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 11:01 GMT
#750
On September 15 2018 20:00 Kommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:57 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:54 Musicus wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:53 Charoisaur wrote:
can't wait for overhyped Serral to get slapped at Blizzcon

Where do you put Serral right now in a global ranking?

difficult to say with the lack of data due to him playing WCS but he'd be somewhere from 2-5.
But the thing that annoys me is that people are acting that Serral is clearly above the top-tier koreans not named Maru and are expecting a Maru - Serral finals.
There's nothing that suggests Serral is better than TY, Stats, Rogue, Dark etc... those have all won korean tournaments and would all easily dominate WCS.


I'm not saying that Serral is definitely better than those names you listed....but Serral did beat Stats and Dark in GSL v the World. And he beat Rogue in IEM Katowice. He has shown that he can beat top Koreans.

ofc that's why I said he is around the same level.
But from reading the comments here and listening to Artosis hype it feels a lot of people think he's much better than those guys.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
September 15 2018 11:02 GMT
#751
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.


Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
September 15 2018 11:02 GMT
#752
On September 15 2018 19:57 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:54 Musicus wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:53 Charoisaur wrote:
can't wait for overhyped Serral to get slapped at Blizzcon

Where do you put Serral right now in a global ranking?

difficult to say with the lack of data due to him playing WCS but he'd be somewhere from 2-5.
But the thing that annoys me is that people are acting that Serral is clearly above the top-tier koreans not named Maru and are expecting a Maru - Serral finals.
There's nothing that suggests Serral is better than TY, Stats, Rogue, Dark etc... those have all won korean tournaments and would all easily dominate WCS.

Well he did beat Stats and Dark recently at GSL vs the world and crushed Inno who had just crushed Rogue.

But yeah I 2-5 is reasonable, there is certainly not enough data vs Koreans. I still put him at 2 though.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 11:02 GMT
#753
On September 15 2018 20:02 Aunvilgodess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.


Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago.

only Inno in the way now
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 11:03 GMT
#754
Was wondering what Maru's stats this year looked like so I just had a quick look. Only looking at GSL the b word is definitely not out of place. But looking at Maru's whole year, it's harder to say. He's actually only 170-78 (68,55%) this year, so not in the 80-85% range that if I remember correctly were the standard in bw. We have to take the increased volatility of the game and the fact that Maru tends to adjust to the level of his opposition ; but still.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
September 15 2018 11:03 GMT
#755
On September 15 2018 20:02 Aunvilgodess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.


Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago.

Doesn't count, he used a spine
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
September 15 2018 11:04 GMT
#756
I'm a bit worried for Dark and Rogue actually, I believe that they are better than Serral but I also feel zergs in europe are actually sharper in ZvZ than korean zergs. I think any of the koreans that are not Z are slightly favored against Serral but in ZvZ I think its flipped.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 11:05 GMT
#757
On September 15 2018 20:00 hexhaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:57 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:54 Musicus wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:53 Charoisaur wrote:
can't wait for overhyped Serral to get slapped at Blizzcon

Where do you put Serral right now in a global ranking?

difficult to say with the lack of data due to him playing WCS but he'd be somewhere from 2-5.
But the thing that annoys me is that people are acting that Serral is clearly above the top-tier koreans not named Maru and are expecting a Maru - Serral finals.
There's nothing that suggests Serral is better than TY, Stats, Rogue, Dark etc... those have all won korean tournaments and would all easily dominate WCS.


Counterpoint

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I'm aware but it's only 1 tournament.
top koreans trade series with each other all the time, it proves he's around the same level as them but not that he's clearly standing above them.
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IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 11:07 GMT
#758
On September 15 2018 20:02 Aunvilgodess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.


Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago.

There are a lot of things to take into account, Mvp dominated when sc2 was the shit, stakes were much higher, the competition much wider and dedicated, simply because there was much more money and prestige to be had. Now, one could argue that Maru has surpassed Mvp with the 3peat, but I think he is not allowed to lose to a foreigner to get such an award, so we wait for Blizzcon.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 15 2018 11:08 GMT
#759
On September 15 2018 20:07 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 20:02 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.


Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago.

There are a lot of things to take into account, Mvp dominated when sc2 was the shit, stakes were much higher, the competition much wider and dedicated, simply because there was much more money and prestige to be had. Now, one could argue that Maru has surpassed Mvp with the 3peat, but I think he is not allowed to lose to a foreigner to get such an award, so we wait for Blizzcon.

Serral is not "just a foreigner".
Plus TvZ is incredibly difficult on the new maps since the raven nerf
WriterMaru
Melix
Profile Joined December 2010
United States89 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 11:10:25
September 15 2018 11:10 GMT
#760
On September 15 2018 20:00 hexhaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:57 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:54 Musicus wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:53 Charoisaur wrote:
can't wait for overhyped Serral to get slapped at Blizzcon

Where do you put Serral right now in a global ranking?

difficult to say with the lack of data due to him playing WCS but he'd be somewhere from 2-5.
But the thing that annoys me is that people are acting that Serral is clearly above the top-tier koreans not named Maru and are expecting a Maru - Serral finals.
There's nothing that suggests Serral is better than TY, Stats, Rogue, Dark etc... those have all won korean tournaments and would all easily dominate WCS.


Counterpoint

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Winning three series against Koreans like that is essentially the equivalent of winning one GSL Round of 16 and then winning a quarterfinal. And since Stats went up 3-2 in that match it's not even that.
Toua
Profile Joined February 2017
Denmark318 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 11:10:49
September 15 2018 11:10 GMT
#761
On September 15 2018 20:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Was wondering what Maru's stats this year looked like so I just had a quick look. Only looking at GSL the b word is definitely not out of place. But looking at Maru's whole year, it's harder to say. He's actually only 170-78 (68,55%) this year, so not in the 80-85% range that if I remember correctly were the standard in bw. We have to take the increased volatility of the game and the fact that Maru tends to adjust to the level of his opposition ; but still.

But if you look at his offline stats only he has 71 % winrate in maps and 82 % in series
Stats, Dark, Maru <3
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
September 15 2018 11:11 GMT
#762
On September 15 2018 20:10 Toua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 20:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Was wondering what Maru's stats this year looked like so I just had a quick look. Only looking at GSL the b word is definitely not out of place. But looking at Maru's whole year, it's harder to say. He's actually only 170-78 (68,55%) this year, so not in the 80-85% range that if I remember correctly were the standard in bw. We have to take the increased volatility of the game and the fact that Maru tends to adjust to the level of his opposition ; but still.

But if you look at his offline stats only he has 71 % winrate in maps and 82 % in series

true. Definitely one of the best years in sc2 history.
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
September 15 2018 11:14 GMT
#763
On September 15 2018 20:00 hexhaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 19:57 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:54 Musicus wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:53 Charoisaur wrote:
can't wait for overhyped Serral to get slapped at Blizzcon

Where do you put Serral right now in a global ranking?

difficult to say with the lack of data due to him playing WCS but he'd be somewhere from 2-5.
But the thing that annoys me is that people are acting that Serral is clearly above the top-tier koreans not named Maru and are expecting a Maru - Serral finals.
There's nothing that suggests Serral is better than TY, Stats, Rogue, Dark etc... those have all won korean tournaments and would all easily dominate WCS.


Counterpoint

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Thats not a lot of data.
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
September 15 2018 11:15 GMT
#764
On September 15 2018 20:07 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 20:02 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.


Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago.

There are a lot of things to take into account, Mvp dominated when sc2 was the shit, stakes were much higher, the competition much wider and dedicated, simply because there was much more money and prestige to be had. Now, one could argue that Maru has surpassed Mvp with the 3peat, but I think he is not allowed to lose to a foreigner to get such an award, so we wait for Blizzcon.


No, Mvp dominated SC2 when he was basically the only "good" BW pro playing SC2. The Elephant in the Room wasn't actually that inaccurate.
repomaniak
Profile Joined January 2009
Poland324 Posts
September 15 2018 11:18 GMT
#765
GSL baby micro trick,


GSL Finals maru vs TY Finals cinematics opening


GSL the trick is you pick it up before it dies / if you don't lose anything you are not going to be


GSL TY's father interview


GSL Maru's mother interview


GSL Artosis innovation's mom gumiho's mom


GSL Artosis rpg stats


GSL Maru post finals interview


GSL Baby post finals interview


GSL Maru ceremony


GSL lego blocks


GSL Artosis that guy is an idiot


GSL Tastosis if i play perfectly / if they scout my proxy just win anyways


GSL Artosis proxy funny


GSL TY + Special Tasteless Doritos


GSL proxy rax divining rod / audience cheers


GSL Tastosis MVP vs Squirtle Pog


GSL Tastosis pins


GSL cheers neosteel op


GSL audience Major


GSL Audience cheer art
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 11:21:44
September 15 2018 11:21 GMT
#766
On September 15 2018 20:15 Aunvilgodess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 20:07 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:02 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.


Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago.

There are a lot of things to take into account, Mvp dominated when sc2 was the shit, stakes were much higher, the competition much wider and dedicated, simply because there was much more money and prestige to be had. Now, one could argue that Maru has surpassed Mvp with the 3peat, but I think he is not allowed to lose to a foreigner to get such an award, so we wait for Blizzcon.


No, Mvp dominated SC2 when he was basically the only "good" BW pro playing SC2. The Elephant in the Room wasn't actually that inaccurate.

The elephant in the room was 100% right in that kespa players would dominate once they switched (Inno, Soulkey, Rain, soO,Zest), and only the most talented SC2 players would stay relevant (Life,Taeja, Maru.) Instead of keeping it at that, the writer let his inner fanboy out and assumed Flash and Jaedong would maintain their 2009-2010 form and keep winning forever. But the article is mostly right, i think 75% of GSL winners since the switch were ''elephants.''
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33397 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 11:27:42
September 15 2018 11:24 GMT
#767
On September 15 2018 20:21 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 20:15 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:07 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:02 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.


Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago.

There are a lot of things to take into account, Mvp dominated when sc2 was the shit, stakes were much higher, the competition much wider and dedicated, simply because there was much more money and prestige to be had. Now, one could argue that Maru has surpassed Mvp with the 3peat, but I think he is not allowed to lose to a foreigner to get such an award, so we wait for Blizzcon.


No, Mvp dominated SC2 when he was basically the only "good" BW pro playing SC2. The Elephant in the Room wasn't actually that inaccurate.

The elephant in the room was 100% right in that kespa players would dominate once they switched (Inno, Soulkey, Rain, soO,Zest), and only the most talented SC2 players would stay relevant (Life,Taeja, Maru.) Instead of keeping it at that, the writer let his inner fanboy out and assumed Flash and Jaedong would maintain their 2009-2010 form and keep winning forever. But the article is mostly right, i think 75% of GSL winners since the switch were ''elephants.''


I think everyone interprets that article in a way that affirms their beliefs.

The way I read it, stars like Flash, Jaedong, and Bisu were supposed to be the "elephants" but it actually ended up being the non-stars or the young talent who ended up finding an opportunity in SC2 (Rain, Zest, INnoVation, etc). But I do agree that very broadly speaking, the KeSPA domination did indeed happen (just not achieved by the players many expected).

I think this is actually an important difference for the sake of the argument surrounding the article, because many BW fans derided SC2 for not being as skillful a game as BW, and the fact that the VERY best players of BW found mixed success in SC2 demonstrated that the games are merely DIFFERENT (which seems incredibly obvious now, but was a silly point of debate in 2011).
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 15 2018 11:25 GMT
#768
On September 15 2018 20:24 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 20:21 Morbidius wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:15 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:07 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:02 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.


Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago.

There are a lot of things to take into account, Mvp dominated when sc2 was the shit, stakes were much higher, the competition much wider and dedicated, simply because there was much more money and prestige to be had. Now, one could argue that Maru has surpassed Mvp with the 3peat, but I think he is not allowed to lose to a foreigner to get such an award, so we wait for Blizzcon.


No, Mvp dominated SC2 when he was basically the only "good" BW pro playing SC2. The Elephant in the Room wasn't actually that inaccurate.

The elephant in the room was 100% right in that kespa players would dominate once they switched (Inno, Soulkey, Rain, soO,Zest), and only the most talented SC2 players would stay relevant (Life,Taeja, Maru.) Instead of keeping it at that, the writer let his inner fanboy out and assumed Flash and Jaedong would maintain their 2009-2010 form and keep winning forever. But the article is mostly right, i think 75% of GSL winners since the switch were ''elephants.''


I think everyone interprets that article in a way that affirms their beliefs.

The way I read it, stars like Flash, Jaedong, and Bisu were the "elephants" but it actually ended up being the non-stars or the young talent who ended up finding an opportunity in SC2 (Rain, Zest, INnoVation, etc).

Just curious, how do you interpret it?
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 11:26 GMT
#769
On September 15 2018 20:25 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 20:24 Waxangel wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:21 Morbidius wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:15 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:07 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:02 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.


Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago.

There are a lot of things to take into account, Mvp dominated when sc2 was the shit, stakes were much higher, the competition much wider and dedicated, simply because there was much more money and prestige to be had. Now, one could argue that Maru has surpassed Mvp with the 3peat, but I think he is not allowed to lose to a foreigner to get such an award, so we wait for Blizzcon.


No, Mvp dominated SC2 when he was basically the only "good" BW pro playing SC2. The Elephant in the Room wasn't actually that inaccurate.

The elephant in the room was 100% right in that kespa players would dominate once they switched (Inno, Soulkey, Rain, soO,Zest), and only the most talented SC2 players would stay relevant (Life,Taeja, Maru.) Instead of keeping it at that, the writer let his inner fanboy out and assumed Flash and Jaedong would maintain their 2009-2010 form and keep winning forever. But the article is mostly right, i think 75% of GSL winners since the switch were ''elephants.''


I think everyone interprets that article in a way that affirms their beliefs.

The way I read it, stars like Flash, Jaedong, and Bisu were the "elephants" but it actually ended up being the non-stars or the young talent who ended up finding an opportunity in SC2 (Rain, Zest, INnoVation, etc).

Just curious, how do you interpret it?

he just said it
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 11:32:46
September 15 2018 11:31 GMT
#770
On September 15 2018 20:24 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 20:21 Morbidius wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:15 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:07 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:02 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.


Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago.

There are a lot of things to take into account, Mvp dominated when sc2 was the shit, stakes were much higher, the competition much wider and dedicated, simply because there was much more money and prestige to be had. Now, one could argue that Maru has surpassed Mvp with the 3peat, but I think he is not allowed to lose to a foreigner to get such an award, so we wait for Blizzcon.


No, Mvp dominated SC2 when he was basically the only "good" BW pro playing SC2. The Elephant in the Room wasn't actually that inaccurate.

The elephant in the room was 100% right in that kespa players would dominate once they switched (Inno, Soulkey, Rain, soO,Zest), and only the most talented SC2 players would stay relevant (Life,Taeja, Maru.) Instead of keeping it at that, the writer let his inner fanboy out and assumed Flash and Jaedong would maintain their 2009-2010 form and keep winning forever. But the article is mostly right, i think 75% of GSL winners since the switch were ''elephants.''


I think everyone interprets that article in a way that affirms their beliefs.

The way I read it, stars like Flash, Jaedong, and Bisu were supposed to be the "elephants" but it actually ended up being the non-stars or the young talent who ended up finding an opportunity in SC2 (Rain, Zest, INnoVation, etc). But I do agree that very broadly speaking, the KeSPA domination did indeed happen (just not achieved by the players many expected).

I think this is actually an important difference for the sake of the argument surrounding the article, because many BW fans derided SC2 for not being as skillful a game as SC2, and the fact that the VERY best players of BW found mixed success in SC2 demonstrated that the games are merely DIFFERENT (which seems incredibly obvious now, but was a silly point of debate in 2011).

but I think what many people believe now is that Flash, JD etc would have been surpassed by the new generation (Inno, Rain etc) anyway even if the switch to SC2 didn't happen. The players who found success in SC2 are likely the same players who would've become stars in bw anyway.

In that sense the "elephant in the room" article is correct that the BW stars would dominate SC2. It only assumed for some reason that Flash, JD and so on would stay the top players forever.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 11:35:41
September 15 2018 11:33 GMT
#771
On September 15 2018 20:26 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 20:25 Morbidius wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:24 Waxangel wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:21 Morbidius wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:15 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:07 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:02 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.


Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago.

There are a lot of things to take into account, Mvp dominated when sc2 was the shit, stakes were much higher, the competition much wider and dedicated, simply because there was much more money and prestige to be had. Now, one could argue that Maru has surpassed Mvp with the 3peat, but I think he is not allowed to lose to a foreigner to get such an award, so we wait for Blizzcon.


No, Mvp dominated SC2 when he was basically the only "good" BW pro playing SC2. The Elephant in the Room wasn't actually that inaccurate.

The elephant in the room was 100% right in that kespa players would dominate once they switched (Inno, Soulkey, Rain, soO,Zest), and only the most talented SC2 players would stay relevant (Life,Taeja, Maru.) Instead of keeping it at that, the writer let his inner fanboy out and assumed Flash and Jaedong would maintain their 2009-2010 form and keep winning forever. But the article is mostly right, i think 75% of GSL winners since the switch were ''elephants.''


I think everyone interprets that article in a way that affirms their beliefs.

The way I read it, stars like Flash, Jaedong, and Bisu were the "elephants" but it actually ended up being the non-stars or the young talent who ended up finding an opportunity in SC2 (Rain, Zest, INnoVation, etc).

Just curious, how do you interpret it?

he just said it

Yeah, don't know how i skimmed over that. Still high on Maru's win i think.

Oh and we didn't even need the switch to happen for Flash and JD to fall, they were getting outdone left and right by Fanta and Jangbi in BW's twilight.
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DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
September 15 2018 11:44 GMT
#772
On September 15 2018 20:31 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 20:24 Waxangel wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:21 Morbidius wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:15 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:07 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:02 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.


Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago.

There are a lot of things to take into account, Mvp dominated when sc2 was the shit, stakes were much higher, the competition much wider and dedicated, simply because there was much more money and prestige to be had. Now, one could argue that Maru has surpassed Mvp with the 3peat, but I think he is not allowed to lose to a foreigner to get such an award, so we wait for Blizzcon.


No, Mvp dominated SC2 when he was basically the only "good" BW pro playing SC2. The Elephant in the Room wasn't actually that inaccurate.

The elephant in the room was 100% right in that kespa players would dominate once they switched (Inno, Soulkey, Rain, soO,Zest), and only the most talented SC2 players would stay relevant (Life,Taeja, Maru.) Instead of keeping it at that, the writer let his inner fanboy out and assumed Flash and Jaedong would maintain their 2009-2010 form and keep winning forever. But the article is mostly right, i think 75% of GSL winners since the switch were ''elephants.''


I think everyone interprets that article in a way that affirms their beliefs.

The way I read it, stars like Flash, Jaedong, and Bisu were supposed to be the "elephants" but it actually ended up being the non-stars or the young talent who ended up finding an opportunity in SC2 (Rain, Zest, INnoVation, etc). But I do agree that very broadly speaking, the KeSPA domination did indeed happen (just not achieved by the players many expected).

I think this is actually an important difference for the sake of the argument surrounding the article, because many BW fans derided SC2 for not being as skillful a game as SC2, and the fact that the VERY best players of BW found mixed success in SC2 demonstrated that the games are merely DIFFERENT (which seems incredibly obvious now, but was a silly point of debate in 2011).

but I think what many people believe now is that Flash, JD etc would have been surpassed by the new generation (Inno, Rain etc) anyway even if the switch to SC2 didn't happen. The players who found success in SC2 are likely the same players who would've become stars in bw anyway.

In that sense the "elephant in the room" article is correct that the BW stars would dominate SC2. It only assumed for some reason that Flash, JD and so on would stay the top players forever.

Those players are still finding more success in BW today than they had in SC2 though.
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
September 15 2018 11:51 GMT
#773
On September 15 2018 20:44 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 20:31 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:24 Waxangel wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:21 Morbidius wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:15 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:07 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:02 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.


Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago.

There are a lot of things to take into account, Mvp dominated when sc2 was the shit, stakes were much higher, the competition much wider and dedicated, simply because there was much more money and prestige to be had. Now, one could argue that Maru has surpassed Mvp with the 3peat, but I think he is not allowed to lose to a foreigner to get such an award, so we wait for Blizzcon.


No, Mvp dominated SC2 when he was basically the only "good" BW pro playing SC2. The Elephant in the Room wasn't actually that inaccurate.

The elephant in the room was 100% right in that kespa players would dominate once they switched (Inno, Soulkey, Rain, soO,Zest), and only the most talented SC2 players would stay relevant (Life,Taeja, Maru.) Instead of keeping it at that, the writer let his inner fanboy out and assumed Flash and Jaedong would maintain their 2009-2010 form and keep winning forever. But the article is mostly right, i think 75% of GSL winners since the switch were ''elephants.''


I think everyone interprets that article in a way that affirms their beliefs.

The way I read it, stars like Flash, Jaedong, and Bisu were supposed to be the "elephants" but it actually ended up being the non-stars or the young talent who ended up finding an opportunity in SC2 (Rain, Zest, INnoVation, etc). But I do agree that very broadly speaking, the KeSPA domination did indeed happen (just not achieved by the players many expected).

I think this is actually an important difference for the sake of the argument surrounding the article, because many BW fans derided SC2 for not being as skillful a game as SC2, and the fact that the VERY best players of BW found mixed success in SC2 demonstrated that the games are merely DIFFERENT (which seems incredibly obvious now, but was a silly point of debate in 2011).

but I think what many people believe now is that Flash, JD etc would have been surpassed by the new generation (Inno, Rain etc) anyway even if the switch to SC2 didn't happen. The players who found success in SC2 are likely the same players who would've become stars in bw anyway.

In that sense the "elephant in the room" article is correct that the BW stars would dominate SC2. It only assumed for some reason that Flash, JD and so on would stay the top players forever.

Those players are still finding more success in BW today than they had in SC2 though.


Really? Or, mostly just Flash?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
September 15 2018 11:52 GMT
#774
On September 15 2018 20:44 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 20:31 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:24 Waxangel wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:21 Morbidius wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:15 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:07 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:02 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.


Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago.

There are a lot of things to take into account, Mvp dominated when sc2 was the shit, stakes were much higher, the competition much wider and dedicated, simply because there was much more money and prestige to be had. Now, one could argue that Maru has surpassed Mvp with the 3peat, but I think he is not allowed to lose to a foreigner to get such an award, so we wait for Blizzcon.


No, Mvp dominated SC2 when he was basically the only "good" BW pro playing SC2. The Elephant in the Room wasn't actually that inaccurate.

The elephant in the room was 100% right in that kespa players would dominate once they switched (Inno, Soulkey, Rain, soO,Zest), and only the most talented SC2 players would stay relevant (Life,Taeja, Maru.) Instead of keeping it at that, the writer let his inner fanboy out and assumed Flash and Jaedong would maintain their 2009-2010 form and keep winning forever. But the article is mostly right, i think 75% of GSL winners since the switch were ''elephants.''


I think everyone interprets that article in a way that affirms their beliefs.

The way I read it, stars like Flash, Jaedong, and Bisu were supposed to be the "elephants" but it actually ended up being the non-stars or the young talent who ended up finding an opportunity in SC2 (Rain, Zest, INnoVation, etc). But I do agree that very broadly speaking, the KeSPA domination did indeed happen (just not achieved by the players many expected).

I think this is actually an important difference for the sake of the argument surrounding the article, because many BW fans derided SC2 for not being as skillful a game as SC2, and the fact that the VERY best players of BW found mixed success in SC2 demonstrated that the games are merely DIFFERENT (which seems incredibly obvious now, but was a silly point of debate in 2011).

but I think what many people believe now is that Flash, JD etc would have been surpassed by the new generation (Inno, Rain etc) anyway even if the switch to SC2 didn't happen. The players who found success in SC2 are likely the same players who would've become stars in bw anyway.

In that sense the "elephant in the room" article is correct that the BW stars would dominate SC2. It only assumed for some reason that Flash, JD and so on would stay the top players forever.

Those players are still finding more success in BW today than they had in SC2 though.

because there they don't have to compete with the new generation outside of Soulkey and Rain (who btw are two of the absolute top players which adds to the theory that they would've become stars in BW anyway if the switch didn't happen).

Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 11:54 GMT
#775
On September 15 2018 20:31 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 20:24 Waxangel wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:21 Morbidius wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:15 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:07 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:02 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.


Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago.

There are a lot of things to take into account, Mvp dominated when sc2 was the shit, stakes were much higher, the competition much wider and dedicated, simply because there was much more money and prestige to be had. Now, one could argue that Maru has surpassed Mvp with the 3peat, but I think he is not allowed to lose to a foreigner to get such an award, so we wait for Blizzcon.


No, Mvp dominated SC2 when he was basically the only "good" BW pro playing SC2. The Elephant in the Room wasn't actually that inaccurate.

The elephant in the room was 100% right in that kespa players would dominate once they switched (Inno, Soulkey, Rain, soO,Zest), and only the most talented SC2 players would stay relevant (Life,Taeja, Maru.) Instead of keeping it at that, the writer let his inner fanboy out and assumed Flash and Jaedong would maintain their 2009-2010 form and keep winning forever. But the article is mostly right, i think 75% of GSL winners since the switch were ''elephants.''


I think everyone interprets that article in a way that affirms their beliefs.

The way I read it, stars like Flash, Jaedong, and Bisu were supposed to be the "elephants" but it actually ended up being the non-stars or the young talent who ended up finding an opportunity in SC2 (Rain, Zest, INnoVation, etc). But I do agree that very broadly speaking, the KeSPA domination did indeed happen (just not achieved by the players many expected).

I think this is actually an important difference for the sake of the argument surrounding the article, because many BW fans derided SC2 for not being as skillful a game as SC2, and the fact that the VERY best players of BW found mixed success in SC2 demonstrated that the games are merely DIFFERENT (which seems incredibly obvious now, but was a silly point of debate in 2011).

but I think what many people believe now is that Flash, JD etc would have been surpassed by the new generation (Inno, Rain etc) anyway even if the switch to SC2 didn't happen. The players who found success in SC2 are likely the same players who would've become stars in bw anyway.

In that sense the "elephant in the room" article is correct that the BW stars would dominate SC2. It only assumed for some reason that Flash, JD and so on would stay the top players forever.


Which is just factually incorrect, Flash is still the best player in bw.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
September 15 2018 12:12 GMT
#776
On September 15 2018 20:54 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 20:31 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:24 Waxangel wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:21 Morbidius wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:15 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:07 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:02 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.


Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago.

There are a lot of things to take into account, Mvp dominated when sc2 was the shit, stakes were much higher, the competition much wider and dedicated, simply because there was much more money and prestige to be had. Now, one could argue that Maru has surpassed Mvp with the 3peat, but I think he is not allowed to lose to a foreigner to get such an award, so we wait for Blizzcon.


No, Mvp dominated SC2 when he was basically the only "good" BW pro playing SC2. The Elephant in the Room wasn't actually that inaccurate.

The elephant in the room was 100% right in that kespa players would dominate once they switched (Inno, Soulkey, Rain, soO,Zest), and only the most talented SC2 players would stay relevant (Life,Taeja, Maru.) Instead of keeping it at that, the writer let his inner fanboy out and assumed Flash and Jaedong would maintain their 2009-2010 form and keep winning forever. But the article is mostly right, i think 75% of GSL winners since the switch were ''elephants.''


I think everyone interprets that article in a way that affirms their beliefs.

The way I read it, stars like Flash, Jaedong, and Bisu were supposed to be the "elephants" but it actually ended up being the non-stars or the young talent who ended up finding an opportunity in SC2 (Rain, Zest, INnoVation, etc). But I do agree that very broadly speaking, the KeSPA domination did indeed happen (just not achieved by the players many expected).

I think this is actually an important difference for the sake of the argument surrounding the article, because many BW fans derided SC2 for not being as skillful a game as SC2, and the fact that the VERY best players of BW found mixed success in SC2 demonstrated that the games are merely DIFFERENT (which seems incredibly obvious now, but was a silly point of debate in 2011).

but I think what many people believe now is that Flash, JD etc would have been surpassed by the new generation (Inno, Rain etc) anyway even if the switch to SC2 didn't happen. The players who found success in SC2 are likely the same players who would've become stars in bw anyway.

In that sense the "elephant in the room" article is correct that the BW stars would dominate SC2. It only assumed for some reason that Flash, JD and so on would stay the top players forever.


Which is just factually incorrect, Flash is still the best player in bw.


In a severely talent depleted, no-team era of BW.

Don't get me wrong, Flash is a generational talent. But who's to say if teamhouses/teams still existed, with the old training regimen, that he would get equaled or even surpassed?
xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
September 15 2018 12:22 GMT
#777
On September 15 2018 19:57 Morbidius wrote:
Does Maru really need Blizzcon for people to give him credit? If you don't think a guy who won 3 GSL in a row is the best how would winning a weekender against foreigners to prove anything? To me he could go chill at some california beach and he would still be the GOAT.


If you are comparing whether Maru surpasses Innovation, I don't think Maru has matched Innovation's accomplishments yet. Aside from Maru's 3 GSLs this year, Maru won one OSL and one SSL prior to this year. Innovation has achieved much more over the length of his career in SC2: (Wiki)INnoVation

Innovation is still the GOAT for SC2, but that's my opinion (everybody has a different opinion). If you are saying Maru is one of the best SC2 players after today's GSL win, then I agree. I put Maru up there with the best SC2 players such as Innovation, Life, MVP, sOs, etc. But for GOAT, that means the best of the best. The best of the best, or GOAT, is Innovation.

If Maru wins Blizzcon, Maru would be very close to Innovation, or possibly overtaking Innovation as the GOAT.
Lgnarrow
Profile Joined April 2015
104 Posts
September 15 2018 12:33 GMT
#778
Life is still the GOAT
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland931 Posts
September 15 2018 12:33 GMT
#779
On September 15 2018 20:14 Aunvilgodess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 20:00 hexhaven wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:57 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:54 Musicus wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:53 Charoisaur wrote:
can't wait for overhyped Serral to get slapped at Blizzcon

Where do you put Serral right now in a global ranking?

difficult to say with the lack of data due to him playing WCS but he'd be somewhere from 2-5.
But the thing that annoys me is that people are acting that Serral is clearly above the top-tier koreans not named Maru and are expecting a Maru - Serral finals.
There's nothing that suggests Serral is better than TY, Stats, Rogue, Dark etc... those have all won korean tournaments and would all easily dominate WCS.


Counterpoint

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Thats not a lot of data.


But it's not nothing either.
WriterI shoot events. | http://www.jussi.co/esports
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 15 2018 12:48 GMT
#780
On September 15 2018 20:15 Aunvilgodess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 20:07 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:02 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.


Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago.

There are a lot of things to take into account, Mvp dominated when sc2 was the shit, stakes were much higher, the competition much wider and dedicated, simply because there was much more money and prestige to be had. Now, one could argue that Maru has surpassed Mvp with the 3peat, but I think he is not allowed to lose to a foreigner to get such an award, so we wait for Blizzcon.


No, Mvp dominated SC2 when he was basically the only "good" BW pro playing SC2. The Elephant in the Room wasn't actually that inaccurate.


lol...yes it was. I think it's fair to say now that the overall Kespa pool of players was stronger, sure, but not by much at all and certainly not at all what that article would have you believe. I don't feel like there is much room for interpretation here, it is very clearly trying to argue a strong correlation with BW results and expected sc2 performance.

Yeah, there were strong upcoming players like Rain, Soulkey, sOs, Bogus, and RorO who were in line with or even exceeded expectations. But then there were also massive flops like Bisu, Flash (he had two strong peaks but never making it past the ro16 is a big flop for his reputation), Jaedong (again, he had strong period but given the rep, I'd say his sc2 career was a flop), and to a lesser extent Jangbi and Fantasy (had potential but never looked like title contenders in anything).

The conclusion of the article very firmly states:



What’s your point?

I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch. Among this group there are a notable few that CRUSH any other players in terms of raw talent and/or work ethic and/or ability to learn. This knowledge cheapens any form of competition I see right now, no matter how much I try to enjoy the games.


Which is laughable and not anywhere close to reality. In fact, I think Kespa barely had 30 players that fit that description if even that.

Additionally, the rise of WCS between 2013-2014 somewhat screwed with the comparison, as if you recall, non-Kespa players had much more freedom to participate outside of Korea for easy money at the expense of a less rigorous practice environment. MC, MMA, Polt, Taeja, Mvp, NesTea, HyuN, Bomber, Jjakji and many more all weren't competing in Korea for some time. Which resulted in more Kespa dominance. People thought they were just running from the real competition, but look what happened the first season everyone came home:

(Wiki)2015 Global StarCraft II League Season 1/Code S

Not to mention we have champs in contemporary times like ByuN and Gumiho who were mid-tier at best pre-Kespa.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
SSNYC77
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
43 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 13:09:31
September 15 2018 13:09 GMT
#781
On September 15 2018 20:21 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 20:15 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:07 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:02 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.


Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago.

There are a lot of things to take into account, Mvp dominated when sc2 was the shit, stakes were much higher, the competition much wider and dedicated, simply because there was much more money and prestige to be had. Now, one could argue that Maru has surpassed Mvp with the 3peat, but I think he is not allowed to lose to a foreigner to get such an award, so we wait for Blizzcon.


No, Mvp dominated SC2 when he was basically the only "good" BW pro playing SC2. The Elephant in the Room wasn't actually that inaccurate.

The elephant in the room was 100% right in that kespa players would dominate once they switched (Inno, Soulkey, Rain, soO,Zest), and only the most talented SC2 players would stay relevant (Life,Taeja, Maru.) Instead of keeping it at that, the writer let his inner fanboy out and assumed Flash and Jaedong would maintain their 2009-2010 form and keep winning forever. But the article is mostly right, i think 75% of GSL winners since the switch were ''elephants.''

That interpretation of the article doesn't even make sense, because MC Nestea and MVP were all Kespa players. Waxangel got it correct. The article wasnt talking about just any Kespa players, it named names.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
September 15 2018 13:44 GMT
#782
Quite a few feathers in Maru's cap.

Youngest OSL winner.
OSL Royal Roader.
Korea Triple Crown.
3 Consecutive GSL Victories.
Best SC2 Proleague Player.

And unless he gets the dreaded terran wrists, he's still got 2-3 more years before his mechanics and reflexes start to decline.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
September 15 2018 14:51 GMT
#783
Good games?
Russano
Profile Joined November 2010
United States425 Posts
September 15 2018 14:57 GMT
#784
Yep, series was great.
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland931 Posts
September 15 2018 15:14 GMT
#785
On September 15 2018 23:51 starkiller123 wrote:
Good games?


Very much worth watching.
WriterI shoot events. | http://www.jussi.co/esports
GrandTerran
Profile Blog Joined January 2018
71 Posts
September 15 2018 15:16 GMT
#786
Felt TY was the better player but made a few key mistakes in the latter games.

Still Maru x3 :D
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
September 15 2018 15:38 GMT
#787
Sick finals, just watched it. Amazing skills from both players.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
September 15 2018 15:44 GMT
#788
2018 is the year of dominance - really, really hope that Blizzcon finals are Maru vs. Serral
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 15 2018 15:51 GMT
#789
On September 15 2018 22:44 royalroadweed wrote:
Quite a few feathers in Maru's cap.

Youngest OSL winner.
OSL Royal Roader.
Korea Triple Crown.
3 Consecutive GSL Victories.
Best SC2 Proleague Player.

And unless he gets the dreaded terran wrists, he's still got 2-3 more years before his mechanics and reflexes start to decline.

He already has them, this was mentioned several years ago when his appearance and quality of play dropped. DOn't know what's his current state but based on the knowledge a relative o mine aquired(because of wrist issues not related to gaming but working ) it won't go away, you can just mitigate the damage. So it's just a matter of time
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 15 2018 16:01 GMT
#790
On September 16 2018 00:51 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 22:44 royalroadweed wrote:
Quite a few feathers in Maru's cap.

Youngest OSL winner.
OSL Royal Roader.
Korea Triple Crown.
3 Consecutive GSL Victories.
Best SC2 Proleague Player.

And unless he gets the dreaded terran wrists, he's still got 2-3 more years before his mechanics and reflexes start to decline.

He already has them, this was mentioned several years ago when his appearance and quality of play dropped. DOn't know what's his current state but based on the knowledge a relative o mine aquired(because of wrist issues not related to gaming but working ) it won't go away, you can just mitigate the damage. So it's just a matter of time

He had to quit temporarily in 2012 due to wrist injuries if I remember correctly. At least that was he reason he turned down the spot in the SKT house.

His peak was well after that in 2013-2015, so maybe it is something that can go away. Although he did have suspected problems in late 2015 as well.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
September 15 2018 16:47 GMT
#791
On September 16 2018 01:01 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2018 00:51 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 15 2018 22:44 royalroadweed wrote:
Quite a few feathers in Maru's cap.

Youngest OSL winner.
OSL Royal Roader.
Korea Triple Crown.
3 Consecutive GSL Victories.
Best SC2 Proleague Player.

And unless he gets the dreaded terran wrists, he's still got 2-3 more years before his mechanics and reflexes start to decline.

He already has them, this was mentioned several years ago when his appearance and quality of play dropped. DOn't know what's his current state but based on the knowledge a relative o mine aquired(because of wrist issues not related to gaming but working ) it won't go away, you can just mitigate the damage. So it's just a matter of time

He had to quit temporarily in 2012 due to wrist injuries if I remember correctly. At least that was he reason he turned down the spot in the SKT house.

His peak was well after that in 2013-2015, so maybe it is something that can go away. Although he did have suspected problems in late 2015 as well.

Maru on skt just sounds so weird
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 17:15:14
September 15 2018 17:14 GMT
#792
On September 16 2018 01:01 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2018 00:51 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 15 2018 22:44 royalroadweed wrote:
Quite a few feathers in Maru's cap.

Youngest OSL winner.
OSL Royal Roader.
Korea Triple Crown.
3 Consecutive GSL Victories.
Best SC2 Proleague Player.

And unless he gets the dreaded terran wrists, he's still got 2-3 more years before his mechanics and reflexes start to decline.

He already has them, this was mentioned several years ago when his appearance and quality of play dropped. DOn't know what's his current state but based on the knowledge a relative o mine aquired(because of wrist issues not related to gaming but working ) it won't go away, you can just mitigate the damage. So it's just a matter of time

He had to quit temporarily in 2012 due to wrist injuries if I remember correctly. At least that was he reason he turned down the spot in the SKT house.

His peak was well after that in 2013-2015, so maybe it is something that can go away. Although he did have suspected problems in late 2015 as well.

It won't go away, I don't doubt Korean medicine or the teams paying big money to doctors, but my mom has both wrists damaged and it varies by day. Sometimes she cannot take a bag and sometimes she's runing around with her granddaughter in arms(9kg btw(the granddaughter, not her )) without issues. Bad days good days. I don't know how big the damage is, with a healthy style and good care he can minimaze the bad days but they are damaged and it's just waiting to fully hit. but maybe it wasn't the traditional terran wrist disaster I don't know, I'm not his doctor.

I love Maru the same way Noonius hates him, but I know he's hurt.

Edit> Actually if you check the todays video when Maru returns to the stage, his body language to me says - my body hurts. He's in so weird posture... but what do I know, maybe it's modern amongst the young, I'm old
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 15 2018 17:19 GMT
#793
On September 16 2018 01:47 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2018 01:01 Fango wrote:
On September 16 2018 00:51 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 15 2018 22:44 royalroadweed wrote:
Quite a few feathers in Maru's cap.

Youngest OSL winner.
OSL Royal Roader.
Korea Triple Crown.
3 Consecutive GSL Victories.
Best SC2 Proleague Player.

And unless he gets the dreaded terran wrists, he's still got 2-3 more years before his mechanics and reflexes start to decline.

He already has them, this was mentioned several years ago when his appearance and quality of play dropped. DOn't know what's his current state but based on the knowledge a relative o mine aquired(because of wrist issues not related to gaming but working ) it won't go away, you can just mitigate the damage. So it's just a matter of time

He had to quit temporarily in 2012 due to wrist injuries if I remember correctly. At least that was he reason he turned down the spot in the SKT house.

His peak was well after that in 2013-2015, so maybe it is something that can go away. Although he did have suspected problems in late 2015 as well.

Maru on skt just sounds so weird

SKT was a better team than Prime or Jin Air during HotS. Maybe Maru would have been even better, or maybe they'd have turned him into a robot and he'd have never have developed his brutal aggressive style.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
September 15 2018 17:40 GMT
#794
Just watched the vods and had a blast! Best GSL finals in long time (or about as good as GSLvsWorld if you also count that).
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2018 18:45 GMT
#795
I fucked my wrists up during WoL and stopped playing sc2, but they are pretty much healed these days, I'm sure lifting helped them a lot.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
September 15 2018 21:52 GMT
#796
On September 15 2018 22:09 SSNYC77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 20:21 Morbidius wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:15 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:07 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:02 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.


Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago.

There are a lot of things to take into account, Mvp dominated when sc2 was the shit, stakes were much higher, the competition much wider and dedicated, simply because there was much more money and prestige to be had. Now, one could argue that Maru has surpassed Mvp with the 3peat, but I think he is not allowed to lose to a foreigner to get such an award, so we wait for Blizzcon.


No, Mvp dominated SC2 when he was basically the only "good" BW pro playing SC2. The Elephant in the Room wasn't actually that inaccurate.

The elephant in the room was 100% right in that kespa players would dominate once they switched (Inno, Soulkey, Rain, soO,Zest), and only the most talented SC2 players would stay relevant (Life,Taeja, Maru.) Instead of keeping it at that, the writer let his inner fanboy out and assumed Flash and Jaedong would maintain their 2009-2010 form and keep winning forever. But the article is mostly right, i think 75% of GSL winners since the switch were ''elephants.''

That interpretation of the article doesn't even make sense, because MC Nestea and MVP were all Kespa players. Waxangel got it correct. The article wasnt talking about just any Kespa players, it named names.


If you consider them as Kespa players in that sense (which is not the way he meant it) it even furthers his point that the competition in SC2 at the time was... not the peak of SC2 skill. And that is taking the natural improvement into account.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10080 Posts
September 16 2018 00:07 GMT
#797
incredible finals. Maru
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 16 2018 03:07 GMT
#798
Absolutely amazing finals. Insane to have two players in different regions absolutely dominate the competition.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
September 16 2018 05:15 GMT
#799
On September 15 2018 23:51 starkiller123 wrote:
Good games?


Great games, but if you only have time for one game, check out game 4 easily one of the best games of the year.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
SSNYC77
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
43 Posts
September 16 2018 08:58 GMT
#800
On September 16 2018 06:52 Aunvilgodess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 22:09 SSNYC77 wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:21 Morbidius wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:15 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:07 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 15 2018 20:02 Aunvilgodess wrote:
On September 15 2018 19:50 IshinShishi wrote:
Look, I am the biggest Mvp fan out there, if Maru wins Blizzcon I will accept him as the new GOAT, gl Maru.


Maru surpassed Mvp a season ago.

There are a lot of things to take into account, Mvp dominated when sc2 was the shit, stakes were much higher, the competition much wider and dedicated, simply because there was much more money and prestige to be had. Now, one could argue that Maru has surpassed Mvp with the 3peat, but I think he is not allowed to lose to a foreigner to get such an award, so we wait for Blizzcon.


No, Mvp dominated SC2 when he was basically the only "good" BW pro playing SC2. The Elephant in the Room wasn't actually that inaccurate.

The elephant in the room was 100% right in that kespa players would dominate once they switched (Inno, Soulkey, Rain, soO,Zest), and only the most talented SC2 players would stay relevant (Life,Taeja, Maru.) Instead of keeping it at that, the writer let his inner fanboy out and assumed Flash and Jaedong would maintain their 2009-2010 form and keep winning forever. But the article is mostly right, i think 75% of GSL winners since the switch were ''elephants.''

That interpretation of the article doesn't even make sense, because MC Nestea and MVP were all Kespa players. Waxangel got it correct. The article wasnt talking about just any Kespa players, it named names.


If you consider them as Kespa players in that sense (which is not the way he meant it) it even furthers his point that the competition in SC2 at the time was... not the peak of SC2 skill. And that is taking the natural improvement into account.


I don't understand. I absolutely agree that it's not what he meant and that's exactly what makes the elephant in the room prediction incorrect. People with Broodwar performances similar to that of Mvp are not elephants by the article's own definition. Disregarding the fact that the people whom intrigue names in his articles failed to make a significant impact on the scene is disingenuous. Pretending that talented players doing well is a revelation exclusive to the article is also disingenuous.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 16 2018 16:58 GMT
#801
On September 15 2018 22:44 royalroadweed wrote:
Quite a few feathers in Maru's cap.

Youngest OSL winner.
OSL Royal Roader.
Korea Triple Crown.
3 Consecutive GSL Victories.
Best SC2 Proleague Player.

And unless he gets the dreaded terran wrists, he's still got 2-3 more years before his mechanics and reflexes start to decline.


First SSL winner too
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
September 17 2018 05:27 GMT
#802
Maru is a fucking legend omg
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5589 Posts
September 17 2018 09:49 GMT
#803
On September 17 2018 01:58 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 22:44 royalroadweed wrote:
Quite a few feathers in Maru's cap.

Youngest OSL winner.
OSL Royal Roader.
Korea Triple Crown.
3 Consecutive GSL Victories.
Best SC2 Proleague Player.

And unless he gets the dreaded terran wrists, he's still got 2-3 more years before his mechanics and reflexes start to decline.


First SSL winner too

Also the only player ever to win a Korean Starleague while on Prime.
don't wall off against random
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 17 2018 09:51 GMT
#804
On September 17 2018 18:49 rotta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2018 01:58 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On September 15 2018 22:44 royalroadweed wrote:
Quite a few feathers in Maru's cap.

Youngest OSL winner.
OSL Royal Roader.
Korea Triple Crown.
3 Consecutive GSL Victories.
Best SC2 Proleague Player.

And unless he gets the dreaded terran wrists, he's still got 2-3 more years before his mechanics and reflexes start to decline.


First SSL winner too

Also the only player ever to win a Korean Starleague while on Prime.

(Wiki)2011 GSL Super Tournament
WriterMaru
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5589 Posts
September 17 2018 09:57 GMT
#805
On September 17 2018 18:51 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2018 18:49 rotta wrote:
On September 17 2018 01:58 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On September 15 2018 22:44 royalroadweed wrote:
Quite a few feathers in Maru's cap.

Youngest OSL winner.
OSL Royal Roader.
Korea Triple Crown.
3 Consecutive GSL Victories.
Best SC2 Proleague Player.

And unless he gets the dreaded terran wrists, he's still got 2-3 more years before his mechanics and reflexes start to decline.


First SSL winner too

Also the only player ever to win a Korean Starleague while on Prime.

https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/2011_GSL_Super_Tournament

That's a tournament, Creator won one too.
don't wall off against random
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-17 13:44:58
September 17 2018 13:40 GMT
#806
I watch a Starcraft 2 series every once in a while, and this one was fabulous. SC2 seems like such a great game still.
They both looked to be at the peak of what you can do with Terran. In particular I didn't remember Ty to be such a decisive player, he was good at defending the proxies and sensing when to begin that counter push.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 17 2018 15:41 GMT
#807
On September 17 2018 18:49 rotta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2018 01:58 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On September 15 2018 22:44 royalroadweed wrote:
Quite a few feathers in Maru's cap.

Youngest OSL winner.
OSL Royal Roader.
Korea Triple Crown.
3 Consecutive GSL Victories.
Best SC2 Proleague Player.

And unless he gets the dreaded terran wrists, he's still got 2-3 more years before his mechanics and reflexes start to decline.


First SSL winner too

Also the only player ever to win a Korean Starleague while on Prime.

And Jin Air
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5589 Posts
September 17 2018 18:50 GMT
#808
On September 18 2018 00:41 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2018 18:49 rotta wrote:
On September 17 2018 01:58 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On September 15 2018 22:44 royalroadweed wrote:
Quite a few feathers in Maru's cap.

Youngest OSL winner.
OSL Royal Roader.
Korea Triple Crown.
3 Consecutive GSL Victories.
Best SC2 Proleague Player.

And unless he gets the dreaded terran wrists, he's still got 2-3 more years before his mechanics and reflexes start to decline.


First SSL winner too

Also the only player ever to win a Korean Starleague while on Prime.

And Jin Air

Didn't even realize, that's crazy!
don't wall off against random
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Last Edited: 2018-09-19 06:50:48
September 19 2018 06:50 GMT
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