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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 26 2018 04:52 GMT
#81
I'm sorry but Rogue is nothing compared to the bonjwas. He's never even made past ro8 in a starleague while all the bonjwas won at least 2-3 (iirc?)
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
May 26 2018 04:52 GMT
#82
I got up at 7am for this group. Inno vs Rogue better deliver.
yangluphil
Profile Joined July 2015
318 Posts
May 26 2018 04:53 GMT
#83
Also predicted Rogue dominates this season. Don't let me down.
Neither party will be missed.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 26 2018 04:53 GMT
#84
On May 26 2018 13:51 pvsnp wrote:
Artosis personally casted Rogue crashing out of the GSL last season in the Ro32, and crashing out of the Super Tournament in the first round........

I get that casters need to hype things up but seriously?

GSL was vs peak Shura though, he had no chance it wasn't his fault
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 26 2018 04:53 GMT
#85
I like Rogue, but I think Bogus is done hibernating and will shred him. Also Arty curse and such
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 26 2018 04:55 GMT
#86
Inno's going 3CC, he really loves this build against Rogue
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 26 2018 04:56 GMT
#87
On May 26 2018 13:51 yangluphil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 13:48 pvsnp wrote:
On May 26 2018 13:47 yangluphil wrote:
On May 26 2018 13:45 Fango wrote:
On May 26 2018 13:43 yangluphil wrote:
On May 26 2018 13:40 Fango wrote:
Dear would be 50/50 against Inno in a potential winners match btw


No chance.

You think Dear has no chance? After all of Inno vs protoss this year it could go either way

When it's offline and it matters, I would give Classic, herO and Zest an upper edge vs Inno. Other protoss, no, especially this patch. I've said many times PvT is not that one-sided in toss favor as depicted on this forum.


I mean, Terran was just buffed with the explicit intention of making PvT less onesided....

When the game has such a small fan base, its opinion and whining kind of affects balance decisions.

Plenty of protoss and zerg pros were saying terran basically couldn't win in TvP. Maru was miles ahead of every other terran and still lost to Classic, Zest, herO, Dear etc all the time.

Protoss was pretty clearly damn favoured before the patch. How it is now I'm not sure.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-26 04:58:59
May 26 2018 04:58 GMT
#88
Inno is gonna go for a really brutal 2/2 timing I think
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 26 2018 05:04 GMT
#89
Rogue not being even close to 3/3 makes me a hint worried but he's ina a great spot still
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16081 Posts
May 26 2018 05:05 GMT
#90
Banelings Banelings! Oh!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 26 2018 05:06 GMT
#91
Prime TvZ Inno doesn't seem to be here. Usually his reactions and engagements are much cleaner than that
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
May 26 2018 05:07 GMT
#92
inno plz
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 26 2018 05:11 GMT
#93
im sorry did anyone else just hear Innovation yell something in the background?
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yangluphil
Profile Joined July 2015
318 Posts
May 26 2018 05:11 GMT
#94
On May 26 2018 13:56 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 13:51 yangluphil wrote:
On May 26 2018 13:48 pvsnp wrote:
On May 26 2018 13:47 yangluphil wrote:
On May 26 2018 13:45 Fango wrote:
On May 26 2018 13:43 yangluphil wrote:
On May 26 2018 13:40 Fango wrote:
Dear would be 50/50 against Inno in a potential winners match btw


No chance.

You think Dear has no chance? After all of Inno vs protoss this year it could go either way

When it's offline and it matters, I would give Classic, herO and Zest an upper edge vs Inno. Other protoss, no, especially this patch. I've said many times PvT is not that one-sided in toss favor as depicted on this forum.


I mean, Terran was just buffed with the explicit intention of making PvT less onesided....

When the game has such a small fan base, its opinion and whining kind of affects balance decisions.

Plenty of protoss and zerg pros were saying terran basically couldn't win in TvP. Maru was miles ahead of every other terran and still lost to Classic, Zest, herO, Dear etc all the time.

Protoss was pretty clearly damn favoured before the patch. How it is now I'm not sure.

If by pretty clearly damn favored you mean 53.x% in the last patch (not counting the one before) then yeah. I'm not saying it was not toss favored. It was not that beyond healthy balance variance statistically speaking. The problem was not balance per se but the MU tends to be dominated by early game from each race. When a match up is trending that direction, even if balance is perfect a change is warranted. In the absolute top level, majority of the protosses are early game oriented so it might have skewed balance perception.
Neither party will be missed.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17678 Posts
May 26 2018 05:17 GMT
#95
On May 26 2018 14:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
im sorry did anyone else just hear Innovation yell something in the background?

lol I see what you did there
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BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-26 05:19:51
May 26 2018 05:19 GMT
#96
does ling bling muta just lend itself to being better on some of these new maps? sorry its been a while

edit: rogue just got his season cursed
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 26 2018 05:19 GMT
#97
On May 26 2018 14:11 yangluphil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 13:56 Fango wrote:
On May 26 2018 13:51 yangluphil wrote:
On May 26 2018 13:48 pvsnp wrote:
On May 26 2018 13:47 yangluphil wrote:
On May 26 2018 13:45 Fango wrote:
On May 26 2018 13:43 yangluphil wrote:
On May 26 2018 13:40 Fango wrote:
Dear would be 50/50 against Inno in a potential winners match btw


No chance.

You think Dear has no chance? After all of Inno vs protoss this year it could go either way

When it's offline and it matters, I would give Classic, herO and Zest an upper edge vs Inno. Other protoss, no, especially this patch. I've said many times PvT is not that one-sided in toss favor as depicted on this forum.


I mean, Terran was just buffed with the explicit intention of making PvT less onesided....

When the game has such a small fan base, its opinion and whining kind of affects balance decisions.

Plenty of protoss and zerg pros were saying terran basically couldn't win in TvP. Maru was miles ahead of every other terran and still lost to Classic, Zest, herO, Dear etc all the time.

Protoss was pretty clearly damn favoured before the patch. How it is now I'm not sure.

If by pretty clearly damn favored you mean 53.x% in the last patch (not counting the one before) then yeah. I'm not saying it was not toss favored. It was not that beyond healthy balance variance statistically speaking. The problem was not balance per se but the MU tends to be dominated by early game from each race. When a match up is trending that direction, even if balance is perfect a change is warranted. In the absolute top level, majority of the protosses are early game oriented so it might have skewed balance perception.

Winrates aren't everything. They take into account every pro game that's played.

If I say protoss is favoured it means I'm talking about the top pros. And in the case of TvP we saw that Inno/TY/Maru/Byun/gumiho/aLive/special all take dips in their ratings and start really struggling in the matchup compared to their usual level.

At the same time every top protoss (herO, zest, classic, trap, dear etc) took a significant increase in their PvT ratings. It became the favoured matchup for all of them.

Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 26 2018 05:19 GMT
#98
Rogue won last year's series against INnoVation at GSL Super Tournament with a hot burrow with banelings while INno was chasing his army.
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-26 05:20:52
May 26 2018 05:20 GMT
#99
i still love watching a tvz with ling-baneling-muta gameplay
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-26 05:21:24
May 26 2018 05:21 GMT
#100
Fair enough if Artosis thinks Rogue is gonna win this season, but idk why he keeps giving him titles he clearly doesn't deserve. He isn't a bonjwa, he isn't the most dominating player of all time, and he is certainly not the best lategame player in the world.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
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