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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51491 Posts
Poll: Who Advances?Solar & sOs (13) 68% Keen & TRUE (2) 11% TRUE & Solar (1) 5% sOs & Keen (1) 5% Solar & Keen (1) 5% TRUE & sOs (1) 5% 19 total votes Your vote: Who Advances? (Vote): Keen & TRUE
(Vote): Solar & sOs
(Vote): TRUE & Solar
(Vote): sOs & Keen
(Vote): Solar & Keen
(Vote): TRUE & sOs
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I hope True and Keen will be able to show good matches
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On April 25 2018 17:03 Mun_Su wrote:
I hope True and Keen will be able to show good matches
Wouldn't it be funny if TRUE and Keen were the ones to advance?
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"I don't trust progamers, progamers are all the same"
- Solar, 2018
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lol there is going to be someone mocking soO in every group this season, isn't there?
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sOs admitting that Protoss can't play terran 
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Did TRUE finally git gud again?
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TRUE prefers to lose now and go play WCS Circuit.
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Aww, Rapid is always there!
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did I miss something? I thought TRUE had to let go GSL to join WCS bullshit.
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On April 25 2018 18:51 Durnuu wrote:
10/10 games so far.
definitely contenders for GOTY
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now for the thrilling conclusion
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Seems like sOs is in a great spot.
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im a huge sOs anti-fan but he deserves this more than TRUE
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On April 25 2018 19:00 Aunvilgodess wrote:
im a huge sOs anti-fan but he deserves this more than TRUE
Heresy!
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there is no such thing as a sick bile. There is only shite micro
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KeeN thinks he is TY or something
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On April 25 2018 19:17 Durnuu wrote:
KeeN thinks he is TY or something
Well it seems that Solar always takes too much damage against TY's hellions
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Is this what they call spooky mech?
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On April 25 2018 19:20 Heartland wrote:
Is this what they call spooky mech?
It's missing the speed banshees
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maybe this is going to be one of those keen days
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I don't see Solar winning this.
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Wow, Keen is strong out the gate tonight
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On April 25 2018 19:22 Penev wrote:
maybe this is going to be one of those keen days
The kind of day where he gets rematch cursed in the final match? 
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That was pretty cool to watch, wonder if he can keep it up.
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Keen just pooped on Solar with those ghosts and hellbats
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On April 25 2018 19:23 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 19:22 Penev wrote:
maybe this is going to be one of those keen days The kind of day where he gets rematch cursed in the final match?
well that's possible too ofc but let us pray it's actually one of those weird days everything goes well for him
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Bio, finally some good TvZ. Mech is so boring.
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Solar kinda needs to do damage with the Roaches
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once again proving that Bio TvZ is waaay cooler than mech.
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great play by keen so far O_o
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hello
is there anybody in there
in this thread
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Keen is much better than i expected
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Literally BL Infestor vs BL infestor! ;p
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KeeN definitely watched the TY v Solar finals in memes and dreams
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Later Solar. K33n is here!
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Austria24420 Posts
Keen's been playing quite well recently. Cool to see him perform in Code S too.
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Best I've seen Keen play since 2013
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Already a great game. 
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Holy shit, goodnight Solar.
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Ghost raven is not balanced.
It's just too much impossible to mitigate damage.
User was warned for this post
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Time to dust the cobwebs off this thing:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/C18lvp4.gif)
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I remember when maru streamed, keen was the only player to consistently beat him
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Wow something seriously needs to be done about ghost and ghost/raven at this level.
User was warned for this post
Edit: since this is apparently warning worthy, maybe I should clarify that it’s just not fun to watch. At all. I don’t play the game, haven’t since WoL, and don’t particularly care about balance, but ghost/raven is not, imo, enjoyable.
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On April 25 2018 19:45 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Time to dust the cobwebs off this thing:
still top notch
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On April 25 2018 19:46 phyre112 wrote:
Wow something seriously needs to be done about ghost and ghost/raven at this level.
Lol seriously, stop.
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On April 25 2018 19:45 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Ghost raven is not balanced.
It's just too much impossible to mitigate damage.
Kinda Solars mistake to play defensively though. Keen was playing very risky, expanding pretty hard. He had a big window where he was able to finish Keen off. Agree about late game though.
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On April 25 2018 19:38 Aunvilgodess wrote:
hello
is there anybody in there
in this thread
Just post if you can hear me...
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That was really well played by keen
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Wow,
I had no idea KeeN had this level of TvZ in him. Was awesome to watch!
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On April 25 2018 19:47 Durnuu wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/t5wZl.gif)
Everyone's liquibet might have to do it
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rematch curse will strike hard later on
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Watching that Keen game was siiiick. New Keen fan after that. Also had the best music to finish that series up with as well. GSL so good. :D
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France12901 Posts
Still not sure about TvZ atm (if terran lategame is too strong or not). I couldn't watch the entire Keen vs Solar blackpink game, and Solar ain't the brightest zerg.
Group H and group G will provide more insight on TvZ.
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sos isnt great at PvT I wouldn't bet against Keen winning.
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On April 25 2018 19:49 Zaros wrote:
sos isnt great at PvT I wouldn't bet against Keen winning.
The only terran he has lost to in 2018 is Maru (2-3 *2)
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On April 25 2018 19:48 Poopi wrote:
Still not sure about TvZ atm (if terran lategame is too strong or not). I couldn't watch the entire Keen vs Solar blackpink game, and Solar ain't the brightest zerg.
Group H and group G will provide more insight on TvZ.
Still Solar is at top4 Zerg at least right?
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You are talking like if it was a raven camping for 50min ...
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Austria24420 Posts
On April 25 2018 19:52 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 19:48 Poopi wrote:
Still not sure about TvZ atm (if terran lategame is too strong or not). I couldn't watch the entire Keen vs Solar blackpink game, and Solar ain't the brightest zerg.
Group H and group G will provide more insight on TvZ. Still Solar is at top4 Zerg at least right?
Would you rank him there?
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France12901 Posts
On April 25 2018 19:52 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 19:48 Poopi wrote:
Still not sure about TvZ atm (if terran lategame is too strong or not). I couldn't watch the entire Keen vs Solar blackpink game, and Solar ain't the brightest zerg.
Group H and group G will provide more insight on TvZ. Still Solar is at top4 Zerg at least right?
Not really?
Serral is better
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On April 25 2018 19:55 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 19:52 Nerchio wrote:On April 25 2018 19:48 Poopi wrote:
Still not sure about TvZ atm (if terran lategame is too strong or not). I couldn't watch the entire Keen vs Solar blackpink game, and Solar ain't the brightest zerg.
Group H and group G will provide more insight on TvZ. Still Solar is at top4 Zerg at least right? Would you rank him there?
Like 2 months ago he looked even better than top4 but I don't want to judge any Zerg by results in the last month and going forward
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Austria24420 Posts
On April 25 2018 19:56 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 19:52 Nerchio wrote:On April 25 2018 19:48 Poopi wrote:
Still not sure about TvZ atm (if terran lategame is too strong or not). I couldn't watch the entire Keen vs Solar blackpink game, and Solar ain't the brightest zerg.
Group H and group G will provide more insight on TvZ. Still Solar is at top4 Zerg at least right? Not really? Serral is better
Serral is top 4 himself though
Probably Dark, soO, Serral, Rogue, Solar as top 5?
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I mean Raven Ghost looks pretty broken to me but I'll still be rooting for Keen to get out of the group :D
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France12901 Posts
On April 25 2018 19:57 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 19:56 Poopi wrote:On April 25 2018 19:52 Nerchio wrote:On April 25 2018 19:48 Poopi wrote:
Still not sure about TvZ atm (if terran lategame is too strong or not). I couldn't watch the entire Keen vs Solar blackpink game, and Solar ain't the brightest zerg.
Group H and group G will provide more insight on TvZ. Still Solar is at top4 Zerg at least right? Not really? Serral is better Serral is top 4 himself though Probably Dark, soO, Serral, Rogue, Solar as top 5?
Yeah
The exact ranking depends on the matchup
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That's gonna be a reddit clip
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Solar is better ZvT that Serral, I don't think that's even questionable
Serral has better ZvP I'd say though. ZvZ could go either way.
Top 5 is definitely Dark, soO, Rogue, Solar, and Serral. Unless byul has returned to form.
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Serral should compete in GSL so we can get a better estimate of his level
pls
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On April 25 2018 20:04 Penev wrote:
Serral should compete in GSL so we can get a better estimate of his level
pls
serral doesnt want his hype train to die off that quickly
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Wow I am loving these cute plays from Keen haha.
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No sentries, 2/2 not finished yet. Rip sOs
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Keen is about to 4-0 the group...wtf is this xD
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Austria24420 Posts
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K E E N confirmed #1 player in EU as said by Artosis
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sOs messes things up so much, its amazing how he wins as much as he does.
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Season of Keen
#YearOfKeen
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On April 25 2018 20:08 Penev wrote:
any more gifs?
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/LWyO6.gif)
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France12901 Posts
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On April 25 2018 20:10 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
cool
maybe if he gets out of the group he has something new for us
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your Country52797 Posts
Just tuned in, normal group so far?
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On April 25 2018 20:13 The_Templar wrote:
Just tuned in, normal group so far?
ye, just keen dominating
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your Country52797 Posts
On April 25 2018 20:14 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 20:13 The_Templar wrote:
Just tuned in, normal group so far? ye, just keen dominating
Well, not this game 
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On April 25 2018 20:14 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 20:14 Penev wrote:On April 25 2018 20:13 The_Templar wrote:
Just tuned in, normal group so far? ye, just keen dominating Well, not this game
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Well, that's why Protoss is the most hated race
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Hope sOs wins. I want more TvZ
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we all know this game Keen shall harness the power of ghost raven and beat sOs and all the Raven balance whine shall continue
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On April 25 2018 20:15 DieuCure wrote:
Well, that's why Protoss is the most hated race
Is that even true anymore? I don’t know if it is, albeit sOs is a special snowflake.
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DT stalker blink all in :O ?
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I swear sOs is trolling lol.
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saw sos beat innovation yesterday with this
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Austria24420 Posts
Wait I thought DTs were visible after blinking
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Yo alright I take it back, this is awesome. Sorry for doubting you sOs.
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A new page for the great book of protoss bullshit.
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KeeN gonna die to 3/3
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Ah, reminds me why I stopped playing this game.
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On April 25 2018 20:27 ihatevideogames wrote:
Ah, reminds me why I stopped playing this game.
Too many games against sOs?
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On April 25 2018 20:28 Fyzar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 20:27 ihatevideogames wrote:
Ah, reminds me why I stopped playing this game. Too many games against sOs?
Too many games against shit that's much easier to execute than defend.
Not to take anything away from SOS though, this game is pretty entertaining.
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As much I'ld like to whine against protoss bullshit, that does not look easy to execute at all.
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On April 25 2018 20:11 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 20:04 Penev wrote: Serral should compete in GSL so we can get a better estimate of his level pls GSL doesn't mean that much Scarlett got a good result in GSL but got trashed in various tournaments  Stats / soO got good GSL results but performed like shit at IEM Katowice It's a good indicator for preparation tournaments current level but it's not enough to gauge a player form imo (need weekend tournaments as well)
You can give examples of players rndomly doing better/worse than normal any tournaments. But GSL is still the highest skill event we have, and any kind of consistent success is very impressive.
SoO and Stats were probably just having bad days in Poland. They look solid in most events (including gsl).
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On April 25 2018 20:31 Vanadiel wrote:
As much I'ld like to whine against protoss bullshit, that does not look easy to execute at all.
He lost the two first dt, Keen had raven, turrets etc, it's much harder to defend than to execute ...
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clearly keen didnt make enough ravens. that is why the DTs did what they did
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On April 25 2018 20:15 DieuCure wrote:
Well, that's why Protoss is the most hated race
What sOs did ?
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On April 25 2018 20:32 DieuCure wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 20:31 Vanadiel wrote:
As much I'ld like to whine against protoss bullshit, that does not look easy to execute at all. He lost the two first dt, Keen had raven, turrets etc, it's much harder to defend than to execute ...
Is it that much harder to defend? His entire economy got destroyed by like 4~ dts when he knew they were out and he had loads of turrets and a raven. Surely at that point it’s just a matter of having units at obvious points of attack.
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How do you want to trade when you have to defend your eco against single dt s with blink.... Whoever thought in the game design team it is a great team should go away and play Hello Kitty Online
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On April 25 2018 20:11 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 20:04 Penev wrote:Serral should compete in GSL so we can get a better estimate of his level pls GSL doesn't mean that much Scarlett got a good result in GSL but got trashed in various tournaments Stats / soO got good GSL results but performed like shit at IEM Katowice It's a good indicator for preparation tournaments current level but it's not enough to gauge a player form imo (need weekend tournaments as well)
You really should not underestimate the effect sleep deprivation from jet lag have on a players fatigue, reflexes and problem solving.
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On April 25 2018 20:40 Caelum93 wrote:
How do you want to trade when you have to defend your eco against single dt s with blink.... Whoever thought in the game design team it is a great team should go away and play Hello Kitty Online
Hello Kitty Online most legit game since Broodwar !!
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On April 25 2018 20:35 Fyzar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 20:32 DieuCure wrote:On April 25 2018 20:31 Vanadiel wrote:
As much I'ld like to whine against protoss bullshit, that does not look easy to execute at all. He lost the two first dt, Keen had raven, turrets etc, it's much harder to defend than to execute ... Is it that much harder to defend? His entire economy got destroyed by like 4~ dts when he knew they were out and he had loads of turrets and a raven. Surely at that point it’s just a matter of having units at obvious points of attack.
Nah dude protoss lasers are a joke
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Also massive lol at people whining about SHADOW STRIDE. Nothing is safe from entitled Terran players ;o.
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is shadow stride the new anti armor missile?
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On April 25 2018 20:41 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 20:35 Fyzar wrote:On April 25 2018 20:32 DieuCure wrote:On April 25 2018 20:31 Vanadiel wrote:
As much I'ld like to whine against protoss bullshit, that does not look easy to execute at all. He lost the two first dt, Keen had raven, turrets etc, it's much harder to defend than to execute ... Is it that much harder to defend? His entire economy got destroyed by like 4~ dts when he knew they were out and he had loads of turrets and a raven. Surely at that point it’s just a matter of having units at obvious points of attack. Nah dude protoss lasers are a joke
Ah shit ye, my bad. Fucking lasers
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
The best thing to watch while doing ironing
That sOs game, MY GOD, it would be even better if those DTs wouldn't enter the scan again :D
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On April 25 2018 20:43 Fyzar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 20:41 Ej_ wrote:On April 25 2018 20:35 Fyzar wrote:On April 25 2018 20:32 DieuCure wrote:On April 25 2018 20:31 Vanadiel wrote:
As much I'ld like to whine against protoss bullshit, that does not look easy to execute at all. He lost the two first dt, Keen had raven, turrets etc, it's much harder to defend than to execute ... Is it that much harder to defend? His entire economy got destroyed by like 4~ dts when he knew they were out and he had loads of turrets and a raven. Surely at that point it’s just a matter of having units at obvious points of attack. Nah dude protoss lasers are a joke Ah shit ye, my bad. Fucking lasers
Bullshit! Not enough lasers. Mostly swordmans and invisible swordmans, some of them with scythes
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now watch TRUE winning the ZvZ and bop Keen twice
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France12901 Posts
On April 25 2018 20:32 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 20:11 Poopi wrote:On April 25 2018 20:04 Penev wrote:Serral should compete in GSL so we can get a better estimate of his level pls GSL doesn't mean that much Scarlett got a good result in GSL but got trashed in various tournaments Stats / soO got good GSL results but performed like shit at IEM Katowice It's a good indicator for preparation tournaments current level but it's not enough to gauge a player form imo (need weekend tournaments as well) You can give examples of players rndomly doing better/worse than normal any tournaments. But GSL is still the highest skill event we have, and any kind of consistent success is very impressive. SoO and Stats were probably just having bad days in Poland. They look solid in most events (including gsl).
Yeah but you don't need a foreigner to play in GSL to have an estimate of his level
Actually it's a worse metric for foreigners: for example NoRegret qualified multiple times for GSL ro32 but he is worse than many WCS players
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TRUE had a massive supply block just before those lings hit his third. Really snowballed into a big lead for Solar
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On April 25 2018 20:47 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 20:32 Fango wrote:On April 25 2018 20:11 Poopi wrote:On April 25 2018 20:04 Penev wrote:Serral should compete in GSL so we can get a better estimate of his level pls GSL doesn't mean that much Scarlett got a good result in GSL but got trashed in various tournaments Stats / soO got good GSL results but performed like shit at IEM Katowice It's a good indicator for preparation tournaments current level but it's not enough to gauge a player form imo (need weekend tournaments as well) You can give examples of players rndomly doing better/worse than normal any tournaments. But GSL is still the highest skill event we have, and any kind of consistent success is very impressive. SoO and Stats were probably just having bad days in Poland. They look solid in most events (including gsl). Yeah but you don't need a foreigner to play in GSL to have an estimate of his level Actually it's a worse metric for foreigners: for example NoRegret qualified multiple times for GSL ro32 but he is worse than many WCS players
Noregret hasn't had any success actually in gsl though. Qualifying alone isn't that impressive anymore given you can get a qualifying group without many top players in (if you're lucky).
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On April 25 2018 20:47 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 20:32 Fango wrote:On April 25 2018 20:11 Poopi wrote:On April 25 2018 20:04 Penev wrote:Serral should compete in GSL so we can get a better estimate of his level pls GSL doesn't mean that much Scarlett got a good result in GSL but got trashed in various tournaments Stats / soO got good GSL results but performed like shit at IEM Katowice It's a good indicator for preparation tournaments current level but it's not enough to gauge a player form imo (need weekend tournaments as well) You can give examples of players rndomly doing better/worse than normal any tournaments. But GSL is still the highest skill event we have, and any kind of consistent success is very impressive. SoO and Stats were probably just having bad days in Poland. They look solid in most events (including gsl). Yeah but you don't need a foreigner to play in GSL to have an estimate of his level Actually it's a worse metric for foreigners: for example NoRegret qualified multiple times for GSL ro32 but he is worse than many WCS players
It's obviously not just about qualifying or get a decent run one time it's about consistent performing and the games themselves.
Not just in the hardest tournament but in one that gives players time to prepare for each other. Of course Serral competing in that would make it easier to estimate (compare) Serrals level better.
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On April 25 2018 20:45 Penev wrote:
now watch TRUE winning the ZvZ and bop Keen twice
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On April 25 2018 21:03 Philozovic wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 20:45 Penev wrote:
now watch TRUE winning the ZvZ and bop Keen twice ?!
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True has been terrible at preventing supplyblocks. Cost him game 1 basically and he’s supplyblocked like 24/7 this game too.
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Should've stuck to WCS TRUE.
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oh god pls no rematch curse
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On April 25 2018 19:48 ShAd_1337 wrote:
rematch curse will strike hard later on
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do we have a sad keen gif?
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dont worry keen gonna harness the power of Raven Ghost and beat Solar
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He goes full Maru Mode:2 Rax both times
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On April 25 2018 21:16 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
SOLAR FOR MY BETS, MATE!
nah everyone bet sOs Solar, doesn't matter if Keen wins
Give us the gifs!
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lets not count WOL so we dont have to talk about how amazing MvP was during that time
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I'm really rooting for Keen now. Liking his play at the moment. Need someone with some surprises in store.
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Yes, I hope Keen has this.
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keen rematch curse gif when
:/
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So I missed basically everything before middle of last game. Anything I should go back later and catch?
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On April 25 2018 21:33 phyren wrote:
So I missed basically everything before middle of last game. Anything I should go back later and catch?
Keen Solar and Keen sOs were pretty fun series, it’s been quite a fun day bar the TRUE series :p.
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On April 25 2018 21:36 Fyzar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 21:33 phyren wrote:
So I missed basically everything before middle of last game. Anything I should go back later and catch? Keen Solar and Keen sOs were pretty fun series, it’s been quite a fun day bar the TRUE series :p.
Thanks, I'll check em out
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How is the second Keen Solar game?
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On April 25 2018 21:45 Aunvilgodess wrote:
How is the second Keen Solar game?
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Ghost are so OP, it was worth the whine after Keen vs Solar on blackpink
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On April 25 2018 21:46 DieuCure wrote:Ghost are so OP, it was worth the whine after Keen vs Solar on blackpink
Fucking lasers man
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DT blink and Broodlord/Hydra stopping keen from the Round of 16
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Sad for Keen
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On April 25 2018 20:22 Obamarauder wrote:
saw sos beat innovation yesterday with this
Any links to VODs or clips cause I want to see it too.
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On April 25 2018 23:41 EzioAs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 20:22 Obamarauder wrote:
saw sos beat innovation yesterday with this Any links to VODs or clips cause I want to see it too.
it was a stream game and sadly, pandatv doesnt have vods
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as someone who doesn't normally like terran, keen showed some great terran play. the macro game on blackpink(?) against solar was awesome! 2 base ghost was crazy to watch too
in the end he lost two close series against two players who were more solid than him, but he also did a good job of showing the strength of terran ingenuity. i really believe if keen were more solid against different playstyles (roach/rav, blink DT, etc.) he could have advanced
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On April 26 2018 00:59 Obamarauder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2018 23:41 EzioAs wrote:On April 25 2018 20:22 Obamarauder wrote:
saw sos beat innovation yesterday with this Any links to VODs or clips cause I want to see it too. it was a stream game and sadly, pandatv doesnt have vods
So it was on sOs's stream? I wish I got an alert when he's online on PandaTV.
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Why couldn't KeeN or Solar be in group B instead? KeeN deserves Ro16 so much more than Patience and the other participants in that smearing of the Starcraft name.
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sOs KeeN game 3 is definitely worth a watch if you pray to The Great Book of Protoss Bullshit.
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On April 26 2018 08:52 Boggyb wrote:
sOs KeeN game 3 is definitely worth a watch if you pray to The Great Book of Protoss Bullshit.
Glory to the holy Book and to the high priest sOs, showing us the way
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On April 26 2018 23:01 WGT-Baal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2018 08:52 Boggyb wrote:
sOs KeeN game 3 is definitely worth a watch if you pray to The Great Book of Protoss Bullshit. Glory to the holy Book and to the high priest sOs, showing us the way
Bad day at work, reading this cheered me up. God bless you, Baal.
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i am so sad for Keen, he showed great games and fell to the rematch curse GG
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
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On April 27 2018 10:09 juicyjames wrote:
Any recommended matches?
Solar vs Keen 1st series and Keen vs sOs
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