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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
March 24 2018 05:18 GMT
#161
On March 24 2018 14:17 pvsnp wrote:
Is the answer to Ravens just ling/bane?

I guess so


Nah, the answer is just asking for a nerf
TL+ Member
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 24 2018 05:18 GMT
#162
On March 24 2018 14:17 pvsnp wrote:
Is the answer to Ravens just ling/bane?

I guess so


And attack before they have too much energy it seems.
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
March 24 2018 05:18 GMT
#163
These guys are making such great series right now. They're both playing so well.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 24 2018 05:18 GMT
#164
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7%

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neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
March 24 2018 05:19 GMT
#165
On March 24 2018 14:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 14:17 pvsnp wrote:
Is the answer to Ravens just ling/bane?

I guess so


And attack before they have too much energy it seems.


Dark also showed some amazing splits and micro vs ravens at WESG.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15981 Posts
March 24 2018 05:19 GMT
#166
On March 24 2018 14:16 Fango wrote:
Is maru's turtle terran viable on this map? I feel like dark just takes the whole map

There's probably no better map for this
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-24 05:21:23
March 24 2018 05:19 GMT
#167
On March 24 2018 14:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 14:17 pvsnp wrote:
Is the answer to Ravens just ling/bane?

I guess so


And attack before they have too much energy it seems.

Actually I don't think it matters. Just suicide a full army of ling/bane in to drain the Raven energy, then remax and go in for round 2 while all the Ravens are empty. Ling/bane is super cheap compared to a full Tier 3 zerg army

The key here is the economy, Dark had basically his whole half of the map
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 24 2018 05:20 GMT
#168
Maru would have held longer with liberators, these ravens did nothing.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
March 24 2018 05:20 GMT
#169
Down to a best of 3.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
March 24 2018 05:20 GMT
#170
On March 24 2018 14:19 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 14:16 Fango wrote:
Is maru's turtle terran viable on this map? I feel like dark just takes the whole map

There's probably no better map for this


Yep, but he was too much behind.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15981 Posts
March 24 2018 05:20 GMT
#171
On March 24 2018 14:19 neutralrobot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 14:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 24 2018 14:17 pvsnp wrote:
Is the answer to Ravens just ling/bane?

I guess so


And attack before they have too much energy it seems.


Dark also showed some amazing splits and micro vs ravens at WESG.

What?
Impossible.
You can't split or micro vs Raven.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 24 2018 05:21 GMT
#172
On March 24 2018 14:19 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 14:16 Fango wrote:
Is maru's turtle terran viable on this map? I feel like dark just takes the whole map

There's probably no better map for this

Backwater.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-24 05:22:45
March 24 2018 05:21 GMT
#173
On March 24 2018 14:19 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 14:16 Fango wrote:
Is maru's turtle terran viable on this map? I feel like dark just takes the whole map

There's probably no better map for this

You say that but it was 8 base zerg to 4 base terran.

Despite how cost effective ghosts and ravens supposedly are, if the zerg is ahead a few expansions they will still win. That's why usually in Maru's lategame he sends banshees and ghosts to take out hatcheries
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-24 05:23:14
March 24 2018 05:22 GMT
#174
On March 24 2018 14:21 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 14:19 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 24 2018 14:16 Fango wrote:
Is maru's turtle terran viable on this map? I feel like dark just takes the whole map

There's probably no better map for this

You say that but it was 8 base zerg to 4 base terran.

Despite how costs effective ghosts and ravens supposedly are, if the zerg is ahead a few expansions they will still win. That's why usually in Maru's lategame he sends banshees and ghosts to take out hatcheries

Yeah, it was the eco that killed him. Dark got too many bases and kept them mining unopposed.

Mech with the banshee hit squad + hellion runbys is probably the better choice since you have a solid tank line to fall back to
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yangluphil
Profile Joined July 2015
318 Posts
March 24 2018 05:23 GMT
#175
On March 24 2018 14:17 pvsnp wrote:
Is the answer to Ravens just ling/bane?

I guess so


It is the answer when you can afford remaxing at least twice
Neither party will be missed.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
March 24 2018 05:23 GMT
#176
That's what happened when you cant keep pressure with a 2-1-1 build
TL+ Member
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-24 05:24:23
March 24 2018 05:23 GMT
#177
On March 24 2018 14:23 yangluphil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 14:17 pvsnp wrote:
Is the answer to Ravens just ling/bane?

I guess so


It is the answer when you can afford remaxing at least twice

Ling/bane is really cheap compared to an army full of tech units. If a lategame Zerg can't afford to max out on ling/bane twice they're in a really rough spot already
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-24 05:24:42
March 24 2018 05:24 GMT
#178
On March 24 2018 14:23 yangluphil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 14:17 pvsnp wrote:
Is the answer to Ravens just ling/bane?

I guess so


It is the answer when you can afford remaxing at least twice


Tbf being able to insta-remax a few times is common for Zerg in the late game.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 24 2018 05:24 GMT
#179
On March 24 2018 14:23 yangluphil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 14:17 pvsnp wrote:
Is the answer to Ravens just ling/bane?

I guess so


It is the answer when you can afford remaxing at least twice

Which is perfectly reasonable given that a terran turtling to mass raven isn't much of a threat until they actually get there. Zerg can just out-expand them.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15981 Posts
March 24 2018 05:25 GMT
#180
On March 24 2018 14:21 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 14:19 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 24 2018 14:16 Fango wrote:
Is maru's turtle terran viable on this map? I feel like dark just takes the whole map

There's probably no better map for this

You say that but it was 8 base zerg to 4 base terran.

Despite how cost effective ghosts and ravens supposedly are, if the zerg is ahead a few expansions they will still win. That's why usually in Maru's lategame he sends banshees and ghosts to take out hatcheries

His mistake was probably as Tastosis pointed out that he took the harder to defend bases first.
No way Dark can attack like this when Maru sits on the "normal" first 5 bases
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
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