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Hok
Profile Joined April 2013
Canada42 Posts
March 18 2018 11:40 GMT
#341
Was good event, but what ruined it for me was the low quality of casting, especially the Finals. Wrong analysis, poor understanding of key moments in games, and flat out boring.... if this is not acceptable in this tread apologies but is was really terrible.
buffzerg33
Profile Joined May 2017
96 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-18 17:48:15
March 18 2018 11:51 GMT
#342
WESG have some problems.
No points for WCS Global Finals, really not enough good players. Till like ro4 games were low quality. Casters as well are kinda boring accept Rotti. Also timezone is bad for Europe and US. That said, pricepool is close to IEM Katowice, but when you try to compare....there is nothing to compare.
Anyway, good job, at least last 4 players where high class.
yyltyler
Profile Joined February 2018
23 Posts
March 18 2018 11:54 GMT
#343
On March 18 2018 20:51 buffzerg33 wrote:
WESG have some problems.
No points for WCG Global Finals, really not enough good players. Till like ro4 games were low quality. Casters as well are kinda boring accept Rotti. Also timezone is bad for Europe and US. That said, pricepool is close to IEM Katowice, but when you try to compare....there is nothing to compare.
Anyway, good job, at least last 4 players where high class.


Just treat it as a wcs circuit level tournament with a few rampaging Koreans.

Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-18 11:57:58
March 18 2018 11:57 GMT
#344
I mean WESG is just Alibaba dipping their toe into esports and seeing what comes out of it.

Looking at the sponsors and advertising it's 100% aimed at the chinese market and viewership. I'd imagine the international viewership that has been really low (for all games btw, not just sc2) doesn't matter all that much to them.

Otherwise they would show english ads from international sponsors on the english stream. Like where am I supposed to buy that juice box in Germany to support WESG?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
March 18 2018 12:14 GMT
#345
fun series but what was Dark thinking in the end lol
I Protoss winner, could it be?
jarodtou
Profile Joined July 2016
167 Posts
March 18 2018 13:27 GMT
#346
gg for Maru, dark also played nice.. finally after the long long wait, e Terran rises as first in a tournament
JWD[9]
Profile Blog Joined November 2015
364 Posts
March 18 2018 13:28 GMT
#347
Well, Dark had an off day.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
March 18 2018 13:30 GMT
#348
On March 18 2018 20:57 Musicus wrote:
I mean WESG is just Alibaba dipping their toe into esports and seeing what comes out of it.

Looking at the sponsors and advertising it's 100% aimed at the chinese market and viewership. I'd imagine the international viewership that has been really low (for all games btw, not just sc2) doesn't matter all that much to them.

Otherwise they would show english ads from international sponsors on the english stream. Like where am I supposed to buy that juice box in Germany to support WESG?

Twitch viewership was 10k+ in the previous days, considering the bare minimum exposure (for this caliber of tournaments) and bad time for EU and NA it's fine.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 18 2018 13:34 GMT
#349
On March 18 2018 16:02 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2018 14:29 Fango wrote:
I just realised this is the first tournament since iem Shanghai 2017 where the player I was cheering for in the final actually won. I forgot what it feels like :D

You cheered for Rogue at IEM Shanghai but not at the super tournament?


I didn't want Rogue to qualify for blizzcon over the other guys who were very close. (sOs, alive, Maru etc).
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-18 13:55:12
March 18 2018 13:54 GMT
#350
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 18 2018 14:30 GMT
#351
On March 18 2018 22:54 Jathin wrote:
Anyone else think Dark threw that series? Watch Game 7 again and tell me his decision making wasn't suspicious. That bunker was dead and he pulled all his drones off it when it was 10% from dying.

He was playing for $120,000. Someone paying him to throw would have had to offer even more than that and no gambler could or would.

The only realistic possibility is if Maru and Dark conspired to split the money ($280,000) with Dark getting more in exchange for letting Maru win and getting the prestige. While I can imagine situations like that happening in theory, there are possibly major tax reasons why that's not realistic unless the winner is giving the loser a very lopsided split.
orvinreyes
Profile Joined June 2007
577 Posts
March 18 2018 14:36 GMT
#352
Woohoo, Terran!
http://youtu.be/LfmrHTdXgK4
Kalera
Profile Joined January 2018
United States338 Posts
March 18 2018 15:07 GMT
#353
On March 18 2018 22:54 Jathin wrote:
Anyone else think Dark threw that series? Watch Game 7 again and tell me his decision making wasn't suspicious. That bunker was dead and he pulled all his drones off it when it was 10% from dying.


Occam's Razor: He was under a huge amount of stress and made a bad split-second decision.
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
March 18 2018 15:29 GMT
#354
On March 19 2018 00:07 Kalera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2018 22:54 Jathin wrote:
Anyone else think Dark threw that series? Watch Game 7 again and tell me his decision making wasn't suspicious. That bunker was dead and he pulled all his drones off it when it was 10% from dying.


Occam's Razor: He was under a huge amount of stress and made a bad split-second decision.


Occam's razor always wins. GG
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 18 2018 15:42 GMT
#355
On March 18 2018 22:54 Jathin wrote:
Anyone else think Dark threw that series? Watch Game 7 again and tell me his decision making wasn't suspicious. That bunker was dead and he pulled all his drones off it when it was 10% from dying.

User was warned for this post


He panicked because the marines were killing drones. I'm not sure how many drones it takes to out-dps bunker construction but there's a good chance he was about to fall of.

Also no one on earth would throw a game with $120K on the line.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
March 18 2018 16:17 GMT
#356
The most cheesy race won.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 18 2018 16:45 GMT
#357
Maru you little monster haha
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Zephyp
Profile Joined April 2013
238 Posts
March 18 2018 17:23 GMT
#358
Good for Maru! Not a big fan of the two-rax games since they end so quickly, but there's no points for style. Maru's truly the two-rax champion.
KR_4EVR
Profile Joined July 2017
316 Posts
March 18 2018 17:53 GMT
#359
(T)Maru had an eureka moment of apotheosis midway through the series. He knew he could beat Dark in late game, he could beat Dark's all-ins, and he could beat Dark with bio pushes BUT if he didn't micro perfectly, Dark would win in each of those cases. So he made a huge decision, realising that if he put the stress on (Z)Dark instead, it would be up to Dark to have to micro perfectly to hold - which is really hard in a 2-3 hour long best of 7 under huge stress and monetary pressure.

Maru, you have finally absorbed the teachings of $O$ - and a similar paycheck.
Et tu Brute ?
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
March 18 2018 19:13 GMT
#360
Any recommended matches?
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