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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-18 05:53:29
March 18 2018 05:53 GMT
#321
On March 18 2018 14:12 usopsama wrote:
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On March 18 2018 13:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 18 2018 13:31 usopsama wrote:
[image loading]

The gap is not as close as IEM Katowice: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/531731-iem-xii-katowice-world-championship-championship-sunday?page=23#444.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Wow you really put in a lot of effort for your worthless shtick.

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On March 18 2018 14:05 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On March 18 2018 13:31 usopsama wrote:
[image loading]

The gap is not as close as IEM Katowice: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/531731-iem-xii-katowice-world-championship-championship-sunday?page=23#444.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Man, you're committed to this aren't ya?

Numbers help remind us how much achievement the foreigners have made after years of hard work.



Here's some achievements you seem to have forgotten.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-18 05:58:26
March 18 2018 05:54 GMT
#322
On March 18 2018 13:36 KR_4EVR wrote:
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On March 18 2018 13:30 Kalera wrote:
On March 18 2018 13:26 KR_4EVR wrote:
On March 18 2018 13:22 Boggyb wrote:
Poor sOs. He goes from undisputed cash king of Jin Air to 3rd place in less than 6 months.


Very soon Jin-Air will stop paying players salaries and instead take a 10% comission. JK. But the coach really deserves it.


Teams already take some of the winnings don't they?


NO WAY. Just like in real sports, the players used to sign with the most lucrative teams. (Well, the skilled players with a name in the scene, anyways.) Someone correct me if I am wrong.

The Kespa teams took a share of prize money in the Proleague days, and unless JAGW changed that policy they still take their cut of their players' winnings

IIRC the figure was ~15%. And of course the government will take its share. At a guess the players will actually pocket around 2/3 of the prize money
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-18 06:03:16
March 18 2018 06:02 GMT
#323
On March 18 2018 14:37 pvsnp wrote:
Missed the games but I'm glad Maru won. How were they? Did Dark die to mass Ravens or did he find a counter?


Game 1: Dark did a ravager push, got a huge lead, unaccountably decided not to kill Maru. Let Maru get up to five bases on Backwater while denying the sixth. Ended up beating raven/ghost by trading inefficiently for 10 minutes when up 8 bases to 5.

Game 2: Absolutely bizarre game on Eastwatch where Dark was going for swarmhosts/baneling. Maru was going for mech, and eventually went for some ravens (though they weren't really key), but I can't do this game justice by explaining it. The compositions were rather mental.

Game 3: Super-solid marine/tank pushing from Maru, and the most standard game of the series

Game 4: A strong Ling/Bane/Muta game from Dark with Maru not watching his army at key moments

Game 5: Burrow roach attack wreck all the mineral lines, and from there Dark went for swarmhost/banelings

Game 6: Proxy 2-rax

Game 7: Proxy 2-rax
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-18 06:12:54
March 18 2018 06:10 GMT
#324
On March 18 2018 15:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2018 14:37 pvsnp wrote:
Missed the games but I'm glad Maru won. How were they? Did Dark die to mass Ravens or did he find a counter?


Game 1: Dark did a ravager push, got a huge lead, unaccountably decided not to kill Maru. Let Maru get up to five bases on Backwater while denying the sixth. Ended up beating raven/ghost by trading inefficiently for 10 minutes when up 8 bases to 5.

Game 2: Absolutely bizarre game on Eastwatch where Dark was going for swarmhosts/baneling. Maru was going for mech, and eventually went for some ravens (though they weren't really key), but I can't do this game justice by explaining it. The compositions were rather mental.

Game 3: Super-solid marine/tank pushing from Maru, and the most standard game of the series

Game 4: A strong Ling/Bane/Muta game from Dark with Maru not watching his army at key moments

Game 5: Burrow roach attack wreck all the mineral lines, and from there Dark went for swarmhost/banelings

Game 6: Proxy 2-rax

Game 7: Proxy 2-rax

Just skimmed the games, and my god the balls on Maru to go for that proxy in Game 7. Won with the previous proxy, on the cheesiest map possible, he goes for it and wins with it. What a god. Maru staying true to his cheesy roots in the finest tradition of BoxeR.

And it seems Dark won 2 of 3 games featuring Ravens. Not so invincible after all.
Denominator of the Universe
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 18 2018 06:15 GMT
#325
On March 18 2018 15:10 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2018 15:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 18 2018 14:37 pvsnp wrote:
Missed the games but I'm glad Maru won. How were they? Did Dark die to mass Ravens or did he find a counter?


Game 1: Dark did a ravager push, got a huge lead, unaccountably decided not to kill Maru. Let Maru get up to five bases on Backwater while denying the sixth. Ended up beating raven/ghost by trading inefficiently for 10 minutes when up 8 bases to 5.

Game 2: Absolutely bizarre game on Eastwatch where Dark was going for swarmhosts/baneling. Maru was going for mech, and eventually went for some ravens (though they weren't really key), but I can't do this game justice by explaining it. The compositions were rather mental.

Game 3: Super-solid marine/tank pushing from Maru, and the most standard game of the series

Game 4: A strong Ling/Bane/Muta game from Dark with Maru not watching his army at key moments

Game 5: Burrow roach attack wreck all the mineral lines, and from there Dark went for swarmhost/banelings

Game 6: Proxy 2-rax

Game 7: Proxy 2-rax

Just skimmed the games, and my god the balls on Maru to go for that proxy in Game 7. Won with the previous proxy, on the cheesiest map possible, he goes for it and wins with it. What a god. Maru staying true to his cheesy roots in the finest tradition of BoxeR.

And it seems Dark won 2 of 3 games featuring Ravens. Not so invincible after all.


Yeah, but those games were already completely won before the ravens came out.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 18 2018 06:16 GMT
#326
Proxy 2Rax needs a nerf. Increase bunker build time please
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
March 18 2018 06:54 GMT
#327
On March 18 2018 15:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2018 15:10 pvsnp wrote:
On March 18 2018 15:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 18 2018 14:37 pvsnp wrote:
Missed the games but I'm glad Maru won. How were they? Did Dark die to mass Ravens or did he find a counter?


Game 1: Dark did a ravager push, got a huge lead, unaccountably decided not to kill Maru. Let Maru get up to five bases on Backwater while denying the sixth. Ended up beating raven/ghost by trading inefficiently for 10 minutes when up 8 bases to 5.

Game 2: Absolutely bizarre game on Eastwatch where Dark was going for swarmhosts/baneling. Maru was going for mech, and eventually went for some ravens (though they weren't really key), but I can't do this game justice by explaining it. The compositions were rather mental.

Game 3: Super-solid marine/tank pushing from Maru, and the most standard game of the series

Game 4: A strong Ling/Bane/Muta game from Dark with Maru not watching his army at key moments

Game 5: Burrow roach attack wreck all the mineral lines, and from there Dark went for swarmhost/banelings

Game 6: Proxy 2-rax

Game 7: Proxy 2-rax

Just skimmed the games, and my god the balls on Maru to go for that proxy in Game 7. Won with the previous proxy, on the cheesiest map possible, he goes for it and wins with it. What a god. Maru staying true to his cheesy roots in the finest tradition of BoxeR.

And it seems Dark won 2 of 3 games featuring Ravens. Not so invincible after all.


Yeah, but those games were already completely won before the ravens came out.


Yeah, but he also showed great micro against them, especially in the second game. Seeing it reminded me of when DRG finally figured out how to play against INnoVation's widow mine parade push.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15979 Posts
March 18 2018 07:02 GMT
#328
On March 18 2018 14:29 Fango wrote:
I just realised this is the first tournament since iem Shanghai 2017 where the player I was cheering for in the final actually won. I forgot what it feels like :D

You cheered for Rogue at IEM Shanghai but not at the super tournament?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
droppanda
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia176 Posts
March 18 2018 07:31 GMT
#329
Dark can only be upset at himself for playing so greedy - hatch first and fairly late pool for the final game. Anyone who knows maru a little should have expected a proxy in the very last game, especially after it worked the game earlier.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 18 2018 07:38 GMT
#330
On March 18 2018 16:02 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2018 14:29 Fango wrote:
I just realised this is the first tournament since iem Shanghai 2017 where the player I was cheering for in the final actually won. I forgot what it feels like :D

You cheered for Rogue at IEM Shanghai but not at the super tournament?


Wasn't everyone cheering for sOs to qualify for Blizzcon?
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 18 2018 07:45 GMT
#331
On March 18 2018 16:38 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2018 16:02 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 18 2018 14:29 Fango wrote:
I just realised this is the first tournament since iem Shanghai 2017 where the player I was cheering for in the final actually won. I forgot what it feels like :D

You cheered for Rogue at IEM Shanghai but not at the super tournament?


Wasn't everyone cheering for sOs to qualify for Blizzcon?

No, why the hell would we
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
March 18 2018 08:06 GMT
#332
Just watched it. Was a great grand final. Maru the savior of terran :D
love esports - hate homophobia
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 18 2018 08:25 GMT
#333
On March 18 2018 14:53 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2018 14:12 usopsama wrote:
On March 18 2018 13:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 18 2018 13:31 usopsama wrote:
[image loading]

The gap is not as close as IEM Katowice: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/531731-iem-xii-katowice-world-championship-championship-sunday?page=23#444.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Wow you really put in a lot of effort for your worthless shtick.

On March 18 2018 14:05 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On March 18 2018 13:31 usopsama wrote:
[image loading]

The gap is not as close as IEM Katowice: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/531731-iem-xii-katowice-world-championship-championship-sunday?page=23#444.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Man, you're committed to this aren't ya?

Numbers help remind us how much achievement the foreigners have made after years of hard work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJrcCsFn_no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymYqKFj6XiU
Here's some achievements you seem to have forgotten.


so 2 victories in 3 years. And a complete foreign bloodbath when koreans where allowed to compete in Foreign land

GG Gratz Maru ! It was close but Dark's greedyness got the better of him. Now I hope than Dark beat Maru in GSL (and he definitly can if he prepare well) so dark can lose in final against soO.
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
buffzerg33
Profile Joined May 2017
96 Posts
March 18 2018 08:39 GMT
#334
Maru was 2nd last year?
Now champion.
He truly is WESG best client
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
March 18 2018 08:47 GMT
#335
Maru is now at over 500k prize money earnings, 300k came from WESG alone within 2 years :D
love esports - hate homophobia
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
March 18 2018 08:49 GMT
#336
On March 18 2018 17:25 Mun_Su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2018 14:53 Solar424 wrote:
On March 18 2018 14:12 usopsama wrote:
On March 18 2018 13:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 18 2018 13:31 usopsama wrote:
[image loading]

The gap is not as close as IEM Katowice: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/531731-iem-xii-katowice-world-championship-championship-sunday?page=23#444.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Wow you really put in a lot of effort for your worthless shtick.

On March 18 2018 14:05 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On March 18 2018 13:31 usopsama wrote:
[image loading]

The gap is not as close as IEM Katowice: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/531731-iem-xii-katowice-world-championship-championship-sunday?page=23#444.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Man, you're committed to this aren't ya?

Numbers help remind us how much achievement the foreigners have made after years of hard work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJrcCsFn_no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymYqKFj6XiU
Here's some achievements you seem to have forgotten.


so 2 victories in 3 years. And a complete foreign bloodbath when koreans where allowed to compete in Foreign land

GG Gratz Maru ! It was close but Dark's greedyness got the better of him. Now I hope than Dark beat Maru in GSL (and he definitly can if he prepare well) so dark can lose in final against soO.

So what I'm getting from this is that foreigners do better in Korea, and Koreans do better out in the world. I think next year, GSL should be all foreigners, and WCS Global should be all Koreans.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12901 Posts
March 18 2018 09:39 GMT
#337
I slept glad to wake up to the best player winning with style with my goto build in TvZ
WriterMaru
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
March 18 2018 09:47 GMT
#338
It's incredible how the game and players have evolved. During Hots and the start of Lotv I could kind of understand what they were doing and imagine myself doing something similar (poorly) with enough time practice and will. But this crazy multitasking style with precise micro and great macro Maru showed during this tournament seems beyond regular human beings. Its awesome to watch.
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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-18 10:45:02
March 18 2018 10:41 GMT
#339
Solid stuff. Maru doing 2rax on match point so obvious it's funny.

Good job Maru and Dark.

On March 18 2018 17:47 arkedos wrote:
Maru is now at over 500k prize money earnings, 300k came from WESG alone within 2 years :D

Withing 14 months even.
why even
ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
March 18 2018 10:55 GMT
#340
fuck my life
I like Dark
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