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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
February 05 2018 06:05 GMT
#121
On February 05 2018 15:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Why are Tasteless and Artosis acting like TIME's on a clock? Scarlett's the one who needs to end things before ghosts reach critical mass.

Nah, you need gosu ghost micro and TIME doesn't have it.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-05 06:09:24
February 05 2018 06:05 GMT
#122
Given that this event is supposed to promote Starcraft towards newcomers (Artosis explaining creep lmao) I actually think it's a good thing that the best players aren't here.

There seem to be fewer entertaining games among the very best players than among the second-tiers. Probably because when the best are playing, the first one to make a mistake just instaloses. Whereas when both players are making mistakes, the game seesaws and continues on in entertaining fashion. And of course, if herO or Dark or Inno were here, watching them just roflstomp everyone else wouldn't be entertaining for a lot of people either.

That being said, when the best players really break out the big guns the games can get insanely epic (but that happens rarely at best).
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
February 05 2018 06:09 GMT
#123
dear god when you can say a map is smaller and its neon violet square
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-05 06:11:59
February 05 2018 06:09 GMT
#124
Nah, the % of "very good games" is just naturally low in StarCraft, as it is in a lot of sports.

Remember, the average BW Proleague game was a ZvZ you couldn't stand, and the average MLB game is a 6-2 snooze for two non-playoff teams :D
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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
February 05 2018 06:13 GMT
#125
lol TIME wtf
why even
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 05 2018 06:14 GMT
#126
Time, Libs are good but they in fact do NOT kill spores
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-05 06:17:16
February 05 2018 06:15 GMT
#127
On February 05 2018 15:05 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2018 15:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Why are Tasteless and Artosis acting like TIME's on a clock? Scarlett's the one who needs to end things before ghosts reach critical mass.

Nah, you need gosu ghost micro and TIME doesn't have it.


On Eastwatch? Nah, terran just has to survive long enough (which he didn't), and it isn't too hard. I saw TIME do that against the admittedly weaker Toodming in GPL.

On February 05 2018 15:09 Waxangel wrote:
Nah, the % of "very good games" is just naturally low in StarCraft, as it is in a lot of sports.

Remember, the average BW Proleague game was a ZvZ you couldn't stand, and the average MLB game is a 6-2 snooze for two non-playoff teams :D


The % of "very good games" is always low by definition. It's more that games that are bad in SCII can be really bad, worse than in most games imo.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 05 2018 06:16 GMT
#128
Roaches are hard countered by drops
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Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
February 05 2018 06:17 GMT
#129
I think TIME fucked up that drop. He should've taken out an upgrade or two instead of the drones.
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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
February 05 2018 06:17 GMT
#130
Suboptimal tank spread.
why even
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
February 05 2018 06:18 GMT
#131
I dont know how it's fair but ok
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-05 06:22:24
February 05 2018 06:18 GMT
#132
On February 05 2018 15:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2018 15:05 pvsnp wrote:
On February 05 2018 15:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Why are Tasteless and Artosis acting like TIME's on a clock? Scarlett's the one who needs to end things before ghosts reach critical mass.

Nah, you need gosu ghost micro and TIME doesn't have it.


On Eastwatch? Nah, terran just has to survive long enough (which he didn't), and it isn't too hard. I saw TIME do that against the admittedly weaker Toodming in GPL.

Show nested quote +
On February 05 2018 15:09 Waxangel wrote:
Nah, the % of "very good games" is just naturally low in StarCraft, as it is in a lot of sports.

Remember, the average BW Proleague game was a ZvZ you couldn't stand, and the average MLB game is a 6-2 snooze for two non-playoff teams :D


The % of "very good games" is always low by definition. It's more that games that are bad can be really bad, worse than most games imo.

Eastwatch is good for that style, true, but that doesn't help if your ghostball keeps getting fungalled or your bases get ransacked by cracklings or any of the other mistakes that TIME made.

Also I'm getting mildly annoyed by the amount of hype Tastosis is putting into this. Not every move is the best move ever, and not ever player is the best player ever. And even if they were (in which case it should be self-evident), saying that repeatedly gets old fast. Reminds me of Katowice last year. I guess allowances can/should be made for the newcomers though.
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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-05 06:21:30
February 05 2018 06:20 GMT
#133
On February 05 2018 15:18 DieuCure wrote:
I dont know how it's fair but ok

Terran should be allowed to make more mistakes tbh.
why even
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 05 2018 06:27 GMT
#134
If Scarlett gets some units ASAP she's okay but idk
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
February 05 2018 06:29 GMT
#135
she's playing this game way too greedy
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
February 05 2018 06:29 GMT
#136
On February 05 2018 15:27 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
If Scarlett gets some units ASAP she's okay but idk

It would be very very very very tough.
why even
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
February 05 2018 06:30 GMT
#137
On February 05 2018 15:29 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2018 15:27 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
If Scarlett gets some units ASAP she's okay but idk

It would be very very very very tough.

lol Scarlett had 80+ drones and 20 army supply
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 05 2018 06:30 GMT
#138
On February 05 2018 15:29 starkiller123 wrote:
she's playing this game way too greedy

You could say the same thing about half her losses since 2013
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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-05 06:32:03
February 05 2018 06:30 GMT
#139
Finally

I dont really want to watch a ZvZ
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
February 05 2018 06:31 GMT
#140
Was that Solar in the IEM commercial?
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