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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
January 27 2018 18:01 GMT
#441
I'm so proud that a fellow TL community member made it as far as the quarterfinals of WCS
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
January 27 2018 18:02 GMT
#442
No mirror in the final... I guess that is good.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
January 27 2018 18:03 GMT
#443
Nerchio with that smirk, he has Bly in him now.
Life?
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
January 27 2018 18:03 GMT
#444
On January 28 2018 03:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Nerchio with that smirk, he has Bly in him now.

Hm. Is that a good thing or bad thing tho
Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-27 18:05:30
January 27 2018 18:04 GMT
#445
On January 28 2018 02:52 brickrd wrote:
the people talking about the boring, predictable bracket - it's true, and it's because there isn't a perceived viable future in sc2 for a young person to go full time. that's why it's big news when someone like Probe goes full time, because he's just about the only high level player doing it

more proof that the foreigner gap is about the viability of the career and not about how hard people are able to work. no use fighting for a career that isn't going to pay the bills

(i hope this isn't perceived as a ded gaem post, i still love sc2, just honest analysis)

clem and reynor are coming in a few months
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
January 27 2018 18:05 GMT
#446
On January 28 2018 03:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Nerchio with that smirk, he has Bly in him now.


Is that a description of playstyle influence or the end of an erotic SC2 fanfic?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
January 27 2018 18:05 GMT
#447
On January 28 2018 02:57 Yiome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2018 02:52 brickrd wrote:
the people talking about the boring, predictable bracket - it's true, and it's because there isn't a perceived viable future in sc2 for a young person to go full time. that's why it's big news when someone like Probe goes full time, because he's just about the only high level player doing it

more proof that the foreigner gap is about the viability of the career and not about how hard people are able to work. no use fighting for a career that isn't going to pay the bills

(i hope this isn't perceived as a ded gaem post, i still love sc2, just honest analysis)


I am pretty sure the problem is the other way around.
While the rest of the world is producing new, younger players (especially with the recent rule changes allowing young player like Reynor to participate), it is Koreans that have not producing any noticeable new player for a long time, in bw or starcraft 2.

Much harder to break into the korean scene. There are some promising players like Prince or HHs but when you have to beat players who've had years of teamhouse practice just to qualify for an event you just can't break through. The only way to get to that level was getting recruited to a team and getting the teamhouse practice as well but that's not possible anymore. Foreigners stealing the remaining ro32 spots doesn't help.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
January 27 2018 18:07 GMT
#448
Go Nerchio!
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 27 2018 18:10 GMT
#449
On January 28 2018 03:01 Waxangel wrote:
I'm so proud that a fellow TL community member made it as far as the quarterfinals of WCS

Nechio is a great model of what a shitposter can achieve
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
January 27 2018 18:11 GMT
#450
GG Serral.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
January 27 2018 18:11 GMT
#451
On January 28 2018 03:05 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2018 03:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Nerchio with that smirk, he has Bly in him now.


Is that a description of playstyle influence or the end of an erotic SC2 fanfic?


The former....
Life?
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
January 27 2018 18:12 GMT
#452
Just 2 more
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
January 27 2018 18:12 GMT
#453
Nah, Nerchio will come back.
Life?
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
January 27 2018 18:13 GMT
#454
On January 28 2018 03:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2018 03:05 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
On January 28 2018 03:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Nerchio with that smirk, he has Bly in him now.


Is that a description of playstyle influence or the end of an erotic SC2 fanfic?


The former....


Well that can be changed if needs be.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
January 27 2018 18:14 GMT
#455
TvP finals: the dream.
kiss kiss fall in love
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 27 2018 18:17 GMT
#456
On January 28 2018 03:14 intotheheart wrote:
TvP finals: the dream.

I threw up a bit in my mouth.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
January 27 2018 18:18 GMT
#457
On January 28 2018 03:17 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2018 03:14 intotheheart wrote:
TvP finals: the dream.

I threw up a bit in my mouth.

You should get that checked out, doesn't sound normal
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
January 27 2018 18:20 GMT
#458
On January 28 2018 03:18 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2018 03:17 Ej_ wrote:
On January 28 2018 03:14 intotheheart wrote:
TvP finals: the dream.

I threw up a bit in my mouth.

You should get that checked out, doesn't sound normal

must be contagious, happened to me too
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-27 18:22:47
January 27 2018 18:22 GMT
#459
On January 28 2018 03:05 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2018 02:57 Yiome wrote:
On January 28 2018 02:52 brickrd wrote:
the people talking about the boring, predictable bracket - it's true, and it's because there isn't a perceived viable future in sc2 for a young person to go full time. that's why it's big news when someone like Probe goes full time, because he's just about the only high level player doing it

more proof that the foreigner gap is about the viability of the career and not about how hard people are able to work. no use fighting for a career that isn't going to pay the bills

(i hope this isn't perceived as a ded gaem post, i still love sc2, just honest analysis)


I am pretty sure the problem is the other way around.
While the rest of the world is producing new, younger players (especially with the recent rule changes allowing young player like Reynor to participate), it is Koreans that have not producing any noticeable new player for a long time, in bw or starcraft 2.

Much harder to break into the korean scene. There are some promising players like Prince or HHs but when you have to beat players who've had years of teamhouse practice just to qualify for an event you just can't break through. The only way to get to that level was getting recruited to a team and getting the teamhouse practice as well but that's not possible anymore. Foreigners stealing the remaining ro32 spots doesn't help.

It's also a matter of tournament infrastructure. If you look at Reynor's results, he's won or placed in the money for a lot of go4sc2, Proxy Tempest, Ladder Heroes and other smaller events. Tournaments where you'll see the occasional established player, but where the players who are not quite there can try to build themselves up and get the opportunity to compete. There isn't much of that for Korea.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
January 27 2018 18:23 GMT
#460
aight enough of this "tactics" nonsense; someone build a random nydus and win the game.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
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