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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
November 03 2017 01:39 GMT
#81
(T)MajOr 3-2 (Z)Elazer
(Z)soO 3-1 (T)GuMiho
(Z)Rogue 3-2 (P)herO
(T)TY 3-1 (T)INnoVation

(Z)soO 3-0 (T)MajOr
(Z)Rogue 3-2 (T)TY

(Z)soO 4-2 (Z)Rogue
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-03 02:24:21
November 03 2017 02:22 GMT
#82
On November 03 2017 09:33 Twinkle Toes wrote:
What would be the hypest finals match given the lineup?

Realistically?
soO vs INnoVation. Kong vs GOAT and so forth.

Unrealistically?
Elazer vs INnoVation. Total underdog vs the most-hyped player we've had in years.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 03 2017 02:39 GMT
#83
On November 03 2017 11:22 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 09:33 Twinkle Toes wrote:
What would be the hypest finals match given the lineup?

Realistically?
soO vs INnoVation. Kong vs GOAT and so forth.

Unrealistically?
Elazer vs INnoVation. Total underdog vs the most-hyped player we've had in years.

Not sure how much hype there would be for a 4-0, but a foreigner in the finals would be nice ^^.
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 03 2017 04:58 GMT
#84
On November 03 2017 09:33 Twinkle Toes wrote:
What would be the hypest finals match given the lineup?

The match up that would produce the most hype before the series for the casual fan is SpeCial vs. Rogue, especially if SpeCial defeated soO to get there.

You'd have:
1) Korean vs. Non-Korean which people seem to like for some reason
2) People thinking that since SpeCial just beat Elazer and soO that he could beat Rogue
3) TvZ- Is there anyone who doesn't put this in their top 2 favorite match ups to watch?

I doubt the series would actually be that great to watch unless you're a Rogue fan.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-03 05:08:14
November 03 2017 05:07 GMT
#85
On November 03 2017 13:58 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 09:33 Twinkle Toes wrote:
What would be the hypest finals match given the lineup?

The match up that would produce the most hype before the series for the casual fan is SpeCial vs. Rogue, especially if SpeCial defeated soO to get there.

You'd have:
1) Korean vs. Non-Korean which people seem to like for some reason
2) People thinking that since SpeCial just beat Elazer and soO that he could beat Rogue
3) TvZ- Is there anyone who doesn't put this in their top 2 favorite match ups to watch?

I doubt the series would actually be that great to watch unless you're a Rogue fan.

I would say Elazer is viewed as being weaker than Special, especially for being overly reliant on his ZvZ, an infamously volatile matchup. I would also say that Inno has more hype than Rogue–not necessarily more skill, but definitely more hype what with the whole GOAT thing.

I also cannot imagine a more brutally onesided stomp than Inno vs Elazer (out of the players in the Ro8).
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Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-03 05:32:04
November 03 2017 05:31 GMT
#86
I made this years ago, I have a feeling it's still relevant
[image loading]
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
November 03 2017 05:41 GMT
#87
On November 03 2017 14:31 Nirel wrote:
I made this years ago, I have a feeling it's still relevant
[image loading]

"Oh my god.....soO has lost again!"
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 03 2017 08:01 GMT
#88
On November 03 2017 13:58 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 09:33 Twinkle Toes wrote:
What would be the hypest finals match given the lineup?

The match up that would produce the most hype before the series for the casual fan is SpeCial vs. Rogue, especially if SpeCial defeated soO to get there.

You'd have:
1) Korean vs. Non-Korean which people seem to like for some reason
2) People thinking that since SpeCial just beat Elazer and soO that he could beat Rogue
3) TvZ- Is there anyone who doesn't put this in their top 2 favorite match ups to watch?

I doubt the series would actually be that great to watch unless you're a Rogue fan.

Nice, this would be nice indeed!
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
November 03 2017 08:25 GMT
#89
On November 03 2017 11:39 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 11:22 pvsnp wrote:
On November 03 2017 09:33 Twinkle Toes wrote:
What would be the hypest finals match given the lineup?

Realistically?
soO vs INnoVation. Kong vs GOAT and so forth.

Unrealistically?
Elazer vs INnoVation. Total underdog vs the most-hyped player we've had in years.

Not sure how much hype there would be for a 4-0, but a foreigner in the finals would be nice ^^.


If a foreigner reached the finals reddit would be the most hyped it's ever been. The foreigners-are-as-good-as-koreans circlejerk would absolutely reach its peak. Which is honestly the only reason I don't want it to happen
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 03 2017 08:40 GMT
#90
I'm fairly hyped for tonight, haven't touched StarCraft for a long time but this should be good.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 03 2017 08:45 GMT
#91
Foreigner vs Korean in a premiere finals is always gonna bring the hype.

Personally, I'm hoping for Gumiho vs Rogue if I had to pick just one final scenario. Want Gumiho to take it and I think that will yield the best games.
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papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
November 03 2017 09:27 GMT
#92
Let's go Innooooooo!!!!!

So hyped for this years tournament. Innovation must win!!!
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
November 03 2017 10:39 GMT
#93
Less than 12H left before TY 3-0ing INno
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FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1208 Posts
November 03 2017 10:43 GMT
#94
On November 03 2017 17:25 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 11:39 The_Templar wrote:
On November 03 2017 11:22 pvsnp wrote:
On November 03 2017 09:33 Twinkle Toes wrote:
What would be the hypest finals match given the lineup?

Realistically?
soO vs INnoVation. Kong vs GOAT and so forth.

Unrealistically?
Elazer vs INnoVation. Total underdog vs the most-hyped player we've had in years.

Not sure how much hype there would be for a 4-0, but a foreigner in the finals would be nice ^^.


If a foreigner reached the finals reddit would be the most hyped it's ever been. The foreigners-are-as-good-as-koreans circlejerk would absolutely reach its peak. Which is honestly the only reason I don't want it to happen


And the anti-foreigner salt would amazing. That's the only reason I would want that. Otherwise, a soO vs anyone on the other side except Rogue would be pretty hype.
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Coldyron
Profile Joined November 2017
23 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-03 11:57:45
November 03 2017 11:57 GMT
#95
My takes on the matches today:
Special v. Elazer: De-Facto WCS Circuit Championship. I think a lot of people are overlooking Elazer (who was here last year and made it to the Semi's). I think this one will go the distance (5 games). I think Elazer edges Special

soO v. Gumiho: If this match was played earlier in the year Gumi would be a heavy favorite because soO's ZvT form is by far his weakest. soO has been hard at work on his ZvT for awhile now. He looked REALLY good in the group play (even though he played no Terran's). I think soO is too much for Gumi and Wins 3-0 or 3-1.

Rogue v. herO: Maybe the most anticipated Grand Finals Quarterfinal match ever. Two of the best in the world going at it (Both are Top 5 players. Strong case for Top 3 players (along with Inno)). I think the edge goes to herO who's PvZ is far better than Rogue's ZvP. herO also owns the H2H edge pretty significantly too. I just don't have a good feeling about Rogue in this series. I think herO wins 3-1

Innovation v. TY: TY seems like an afterthought here as ~90% of everyone following SC2 assumes Innovation is too much for him. Team Liquid however has predicted the "upset" with TY knocking Bogus out early. Innovation ALWAYS loses at BlizzCon early. I see this series going one of 2 ways: Innovation in a 3-0 sweep or Innovation in a 3-2 very close series. TY needs to play aggressive (he can't play his normal style or Bogus will eat him alive) to have a chance at pulling off the upset.

Looking forward my prediction:
soO-Gumiho Winner will face the Rogue-herO Winner in the Championship

Zephyp
Profile Joined April 2013
238 Posts
November 03 2017 12:25 GMT
#96
I'd love to see a foreigner get to the final. Koreans are of course better overall, you don't crown the best players with one tournament, but with 2-3 good matches, SpeCial and Elazer can make it. They are not favorites, but we see Korea vs Korea in GSL, SSL, Super Tournament, GSL vs SSL and all these Korean tournaments all the time. It's always nice to get more foreigner vs Korean matches when the opportunities are there.

It's fun for the foreign scene and it's fun with upsets, even if the final ends up in a 4-0 to Innovation. That can happen in Korea vs Korea too.
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
November 03 2017 12:28 GMT
#97
Wow I just remembered that I have a party tonight.... T_T

I hope to see soO and Bogus win anyway... (and Major, and Savage)
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Zephyp
Profile Joined April 2013
238 Posts
November 03 2017 12:30 GMT
#98
On November 03 2017 21:28 Mun_Su wrote:
Wow I just remembered that I have a party tonight.... T_T

I hope to see soO and Bogus win anyway... (and Major, and Savage)

I can't watch it live either. So happy we got SC2Links and Twitch VODs. With a little care, I can watch everything without getting anything spoiled. And I can skip past all the ads and stuff.
ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
November 03 2017 12:32 GMT
#99
Tbh i think the final will be TvT between Inno and Gumiho, it most likely will happen if there is no upset.
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
November 03 2017 12:36 GMT
#100
On November 03 2017 21:30 Zephyp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 21:28 Mun_Su wrote:
Wow I just remembered that I have a party tonight.... T_T

I hope to see soO and Bogus win anyway... (and Major, and Savage)

I can't watch it live either. So happy we got SC2Links and Twitch VODs. With a little care, I can watch everything without getting anything spoiled. And I can skip past all the ads and stuff.



Well to be honnest I don't know if I have the nerve to wait like that I'll probably check liquipedia/TL forum like a madman when soO and INno will play.

So, have we volunteers to do some LR
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
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