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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
October 31 2017 13:22 GMT
#21
On October 31 2017 22:10 Fango wrote:
Hoping that Inno chokes and makes the tournament competitive tbh. Not sure if he will against TY, but he will choke up against Rogue or herO for sure



I don't see how this can make the tournament more competitive. soO will Choke in final no matter who he is against. Major Elazer or Gumi will get absolutly rekt by herO or Rogue or INno (of course we can still have an upset, but in bo7...) . The hottest match will be rogue vs herO and, if INno goes past TY rogue/herO vs INno. With hope it will be awesomes matches.

Tbh honnest I think the closest final would be Major vs INno, since they practiced together, but a TvZ or ZvP would be more hype.
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
October 31 2017 13:29 GMT
#22
no dark no watch
I like Dark
Zephyp
Profile Joined April 2013
238 Posts
October 31 2017 14:12 GMT
#23
I like the "Player A will never beat player B" comments and how the rest of the tournament can be cancelled since everyone knows what is going to happen anyways.

It's almost like Ro16 didn't happen and SpeCial and Elazer didn't make it through, while Stats and Dark fell out.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 31 2017 15:11 GMT
#24
soO says he has been practicing tons of ZvT. If he's fixed that weakness he will have no problem making it to the finals.

Rogue vs herO is the hype match of the Ro8, and I would have to give a slight edge to Rogue, because he's beaten herO twice before in long series. Also, herO likes his Oracles too much and Rogue shut down Neeb's Oracles really hard.

Winner of Rogue vs herO plays Inno in the semifinals, which will be the real finals. If herO wins it will be a shitshow no matter who wins, like all his PvTs, so I'm really hoping Rogue beats herO. Rogue vs Inno will be an absolutely incredible series. The bio vs LBH games at the Super Tournament were amazing and I have to say they are dead even as long as Inno goes bio.

Whomever wins the lower bracket semifinals then wins the finals 4-0 in extremely anticlimactic fashion. Personally I'm hoping for soO vs Inno in the finals, since they have the best storylines.
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yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
October 31 2017 15:25 GMT
#25
This bracket could have been absolutely insane if Stats and Dark didn't fall:
SSL S2 final
GSL S2 final
IEM Shanghai/GSL ST2 final
GSL vs World final

Still Special and Elazer have shown great performances so they deserve to be there.
bulya
Profile Joined February 2016
Israel386 Posts
October 31 2017 16:15 GMT
#26
Its hard to predict who will get to the finals from the upper side of the bracket, since anyone can.
Its also hard to predict who will get there from the bottom side of the bracket, almost anyone can, and may be TY will surprise us.

But for sure the once who'll get there from the bottom side will be the favored vs the one who get there from the upper side.
Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
October 31 2017 17:27 GMT
#27
and your Blizzcon 2017 champion... soO!!!
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
October 31 2017 18:00 GMT
#28
There's a very real chance for either of the foreigners to make the finals only to get 3-0'd.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 31 2017 18:09 GMT
#29
On November 01 2017 03:00 iamho wrote:
There's a very real chance for either of the foreigners to make the finals only to get 3-0'd.


There's no chance of this happening.
Myrddrael
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom291 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-31 18:42:17
October 31 2017 18:30 GMT
#30
(T)MajOr 3 - 1 (Z)Elazer
(T)GuMiho 3 - 2 (Z)soO
(P)herO 3 - 1 (Z)Rogue
(T)INnoVation 3 - 0 (T)TY

(T)GuMiho 3 - 1 (T)MajOr
(T)INnoVation 3 - 2 (P)herO

(T)INnoVation 4 - 2
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55567 Posts
October 31 2017 18:34 GMT
#31
On November 01 2017 03:30 Myrddrael wrote:
(T)MajOr 3 - 1 (Z)Elazer
(T)GuMiho 3 - 2 (Z)soO
(P)herO 3 - 1 (Z)Rogue
(T)INnoVation 3 - 0 (T)TY

(Z)soO 3 - 1 (T)MajOr
(T)INnoVation 3 - 2 (P)herO

(T)INnoVation 4 - 2

GuMiho gets conscripted to military after the Ro8 so soO advances despite losing?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
October 31 2017 18:40 GMT
#32
MajCiaL vs Elazer is a massive disappointment; them playing against each other is just cruel towards foreign fans :/.

Major 3-1
soO 3-2
herO 3-0
INnoVation 3-1
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Myrddrael
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom291 Posts
October 31 2017 18:42 GMT
#33
On November 01 2017 03:34 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 03:30 Myrddrael wrote:
(T)MajOr 3 - 1 (Z)Elazer
(T)GuMiho 3 - 2 (Z)soO
(P)herO 3 - 1 (Z)Rogue
(T)INnoVation 3 - 0 (T)TY

(Z)soO 3 - 1 (T)MajOr
(T)INnoVation 3 - 2 (P)herO

(T)INnoVation 4 - 2

GuMiho gets conscripted to military after the Ro8 so soO advances despite losing?


Ooops
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 31 2017 19:12 GMT
#34
On November 01 2017 03:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 03:00 iamho wrote:
There's a very real chance for either of the foreigners to make the finals only to get 3-0'd.


There's no chance of this happening.

0% chance, because the finals is a Bo7 so you need 4 games to win.
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Myrddrael
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom291 Posts
October 31 2017 19:14 GMT
#35
On November 01 2017 04:12 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 03:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 01 2017 03:00 iamho wrote:
There's a very real chance for either of the foreigners to make the finals only to get 3-0'd.


There's no chance of this happening.

0% chance, because the finals is a Bo7 so you need 4 games to win.


I don't think Elazer is good enough to get the finals and Special will probably choke a bit.
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
October 31 2017 19:31 GMT
#36
On October 31 2017 22:13 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2017 22:10 Fango wrote:
Hoping that Inno chokes and makes the tournament competitive tbh. Not sure if he will against TY, but he will choke up against Rogue or herO for sure


TY will win even if INno dont choke

Inno doesn't lose unless he chokes according to fanboys.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 31 2017 20:02 GMT
#37
On November 01 2017 04:31 leublix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2017 22:13 DieuCure wrote:
On October 31 2017 22:10 Fango wrote:
Hoping that Inno chokes and makes the tournament competitive tbh. Not sure if he will against TY, but he will choke up against Rogue or herO for sure


TY will win even if INno dont choke

Inno doesn't lose unless he chokes according to fanboys.


In all honestly. Inno in good form is better than TY, herO, soO, or Rogue. I can't see a world where he loses without choking. And I'm far from an Inno fanboy, I've been arguing against his GOAT status all year
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 31 2017 20:14 GMT
#38
On November 01 2017 05:02 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 04:31 leublix wrote:
On October 31 2017 22:13 DieuCure wrote:
On October 31 2017 22:10 Fango wrote:
Hoping that Inno chokes and makes the tournament competitive tbh. Not sure if he will against TY, but he will choke up against Rogue or herO for sure


TY will win even if INno dont choke

Inno doesn't lose unless he chokes according to fanboys.


In all honestly. Inno in good form is better than TY, herO, soO, or Rogue. I can't see a world where he loses without choking. And I'm far from an Inno fanboy, I've been arguing against his GOAT status all year


Depends on how liberal you are with labeling a loss as "choking". He could simply play worse than herO or Rogue and lose very normally.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
October 31 2017 20:29 GMT
#39
On November 01 2017 05:14 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 05:02 Fango wrote:
On November 01 2017 04:31 leublix wrote:
On October 31 2017 22:13 DieuCure wrote:
On October 31 2017 22:10 Fango wrote:
Hoping that Inno chokes and makes the tournament competitive tbh. Not sure if he will against TY, but he will choke up against Rogue or herO for sure


TY will win even if INno dont choke

Inno doesn't lose unless he chokes according to fanboys.


In all honestly. Inno in good form is better than TY, herO, soO, or Rogue. I can't see a world where he loses without choking. And I'm far from an Inno fanboy, I've been arguing against his GOAT status all year


Depends on how liberal you are with labeling a loss as "choking". He could simply play worse than herO or Rogue and lose very normally.


Which he definitely does from time to time. Innovation is an amazing player but I could see him easily losing to Rogue or herO at the very least, even without "choking". They can both compete with Innovation at his best, and anything can happen in sc2 when the players are so skilled and decisive as both Rogue and especially herO are.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16061 Posts
October 31 2017 20:48 GMT
#40
On November 01 2017 04:12 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 03:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 01 2017 03:00 iamho wrote:
There's a very real chance for either of the foreigners to make the finals only to get 3-0'd.


There's no chance of this happening.

0% chance, because the finals is a Bo7 so you need 4 games to win.

Naniwa managed to lose a bo5 0-1 so I don't see why a 3-0 in the finals wouldn't be possible.
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