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On August 04 2017 19:29 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2017 19:28 GumBa wrote:On August 04 2017 19:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 04 2017 19:23 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:On August 04 2017 19:22 Heartland wrote:On August 04 2017 19:21 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
Man, what's with all these people wanting Koreans to win?
I mean, I don't dislike them, but just this attitude of wanting them to win to "prove" that foreigners are bad is so negative. I think there's a certain irony in the fact there's a tinge of elitism wanting to prove it's better (nobody is disputing that), compared to the old days when everybody wanted to cheer on every foreign player to do well as an underdog, and as some kind of support against the Koreans.
Irritating. I just have no faith in foreigners in Korea. Also, I like sOs and want him to win regardless of where he is from. I think there's a difference in thinking they're going to lose, and wanting them to lose. First is understandable, I think the second is lame. What? The simple fact is that some of the guys here actually like the korean players better. That happens naturally when you follow the korean scene closely tbh. Just like you want the korean to lose because you like the foreigner better, there is no difference U disgust me. Koreans aren't even white you can't relate to them. How dare you cheer for them. TBF, it's definitely harder to relate to them because of the language barrier, but as i said we on TL are pretty hardcore so that's no real issue for a lot of us.
Doesn't matter one bit to me because interviews are boring as fuck usually, foreigner or not.
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Australia18228 Posts
Is there an American tourny soon? Can Neeb get the back2back Triple Crown
Oh WCS Montreal is soon, it's gonna happen
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On August 04 2017 19:29 Meeii wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2017 19:21 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
Man, what's with all these people wanting Koreans to win?
I mean, I don't dislike them, but just this attitude of wanting them to win to "prove" that foreigners are bad is so negative. I think there's a certain irony in the fact there's a tinge of elitism wanting to prove it's better (nobody is disputing that), compared to the old days when everybody wanted to cheer on every foreign player to do well as an underdog, and as some kind of support against the Koreans.
Irritating. It was more fun to cheer on foreigner before the region lock. Now it just feel like they get the easier road and the most skilled foreigner (like Neeb) get free money as they don't have to fight against the absolute best at a regular basis.
I don't begrudge them for that, though, and I still want to support them.
It's not like Neeb is getting free, easy money. I mean, he won the Kespa cup and it almost seemed like he outclassed the players against him.
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On August 04 2017 19:29 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2017 19:29 Lorning wrote:On August 04 2017 19:21 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
Man, what's with all these people wanting Koreans to win?
I mean, I don't dislike them, but just this attitude of wanting them to win to "prove" that foreigners are bad is so negative. I think there's a certain irony in the fact there's a tinge of elitism wanting to prove it's better (nobody is disputing that), compared to the old days when everybody wanted to cheer on every foreign player to do well as an underdog, and as some kind of support against the Koreans.
Irritating. Cause if you watch Korean SC2 for more than 6 years, you actually know where these guys come from and start cheering for them. Ppl like u are the reason sc2 died.
the reason sc2 died is you, GumBa. I know you killed it in the library with the golden mouse.
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On August 04 2017 19:30 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2017 19:29 Meeii wrote:On August 04 2017 19:21 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
Man, what's with all these people wanting Koreans to win?
I mean, I don't dislike them, but just this attitude of wanting them to win to "prove" that foreigners are bad is so negative. I think there's a certain irony in the fact there's a tinge of elitism wanting to prove it's better (nobody is disputing that), compared to the old days when everybody wanted to cheer on every foreign player to do well as an underdog, and as some kind of support against the Koreans.
Irritating. It was more fun to cheer on foreigner before the region lock. Now it just feel like they get the easier road and the most skilled foreigner (like Neeb) get free money as they don't have to fight against the absolute best at a regular basis. I don't begrudge them for that, though, and I still want to support them. It's not like Neeb is getting free, easy money. I mean, he won the Kespa cup and it almost seemed like he outclassed the players against him.
Except literal god Pet.
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Austria24422 Posts
On August 04 2017 19:30 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2017 19:27 Olli wrote:On August 04 2017 19:25 Durnuu wrote:On August 04 2017 19:23 c0sm0naut wrote:On August 04 2017 19:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Lol that cover of I Need a Hero. GSL always delivers on music i was fucking jamming edit: why sOs is here and not classic >.< clasic is the best toss right now everyone knows it No, Zest is. He won the GOAT tournament HSC, just like TaeJa did in his time Funny thing is that, if ladder is anything to go by (and it usually is), Zest actually is the best Protoss atm. But we won't see it cause he has nothing to play D: Oh yeah I remember when Artosis told me Zest was tearing up the ladder and he then didn't qualify for Code S. It took Rogue months of occupying the #1 spot at 7k mmr to win his IEM.
Zest did just win a tournament though, and that was before he reached his ladder highs. Also when Artosis said that, Zest was at #5 on KR or smth. Now he's 1 and 2.
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On August 04 2017 19:29 Meeii wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2017 19:21 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
Man, what's with all these people wanting Koreans to win?
I mean, I don't dislike them, but just this attitude of wanting them to win to "prove" that foreigners are bad is so negative. I think there's a certain irony in the fact there's a tinge of elitism wanting to prove it's better (nobody is disputing that), compared to the old days when everybody wanted to cheer on every foreign player to do well as an underdog, and as some kind of support against the Koreans.
Irritating. It was more fun to cheer on foreigner before the region lock. Now it just feel like they get the easier road and the most skilled foreigner (like Neeb) get free money as they don't have to fight against the absolute best at a regular basis.
Yet we knew that the old system would have suppressed players like Neeb. We have the deepest foreigner scene ever now
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On August 04 2017 19:29 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2017 19:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 04 2017 19:23 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:On August 04 2017 19:22 Heartland wrote:On August 04 2017 19:21 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
Man, what's with all these people wanting Koreans to win?
I mean, I don't dislike them, but just this attitude of wanting them to win to "prove" that foreigners are bad is so negative. I think there's a certain irony in the fact there's a tinge of elitism wanting to prove it's better (nobody is disputing that), compared to the old days when everybody wanted to cheer on every foreign player to do well as an underdog, and as some kind of support against the Koreans.
Irritating. I just have no faith in foreigners in Korea. Also, I like sOs and want him to win regardless of where he is from. I think there's a difference in thinking they're going to lose, and wanting them to lose. First is understandable, I think the second is lame. What? The simple fact is that some of the guys here actually like the korean players better. That happens naturally when you follow the korean scene closely tbh. Just like you want the korean to lose because you like the foreigner better, there is no difference I like the Korean players and I have those I prefer within it. I just want underdogs that are outside of the system to do well and compete with them - those on our ladders. Show nested quote +On August 04 2017 19:27 207aicila wrote:On August 04 2017 19:21 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
Man, what's with all these people wanting Koreans to win?
I mean, I don't dislike them, but just this attitude of wanting them to win to "prove" that foreigners are bad is so negative. I think there's a certain irony in the fact there's a tinge of elitism wanting to prove it's better (nobody is disputing that), compared to the old days when everybody wanted to cheer on every foreign player to do well as an underdog, and as some kind of support against the Koreans.
Irritating. Or maybe, just maybe, some people simply prefer watching the absolute best Starcraft and tend to prioritise that. No reason to attribute to malice that which can be just aswwell explained by differences in opinion / preference. If the foreigners beat them, they deserve to be there. I want foreigners to be the best - that's why I want them to win.
So just to understand it, if someone wants the koreans to win he is negative, etc but you wanting the foreigners to win is ok? Seems weird to me.
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On August 04 2017 19:30 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2017 19:27 Olli wrote:On August 04 2017 19:25 Durnuu wrote:On August 04 2017 19:23 c0sm0naut wrote:On August 04 2017 19:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Lol that cover of I Need a Hero. GSL always delivers on music i was fucking jamming edit: why sOs is here and not classic >.< clasic is the best toss right now everyone knows it No, Zest is. He won the GOAT tournament HSC, just like TaeJa did in his time Funny thing is that, if ladder is anything to go by (and it usually is), Zest actually is the best Protoss atm. But we won't see it cause he has nothing to play D: Oh yeah I remember when Artosis told me Zest was tearing up the ladder and he then didn't qualify for Code S. It took Rogue months of occupying the #1 spot at 7k mmr to win his IEM.
Ladder can also be very different though. Showtime's ladder rank didn't waver when he crashed and burned out of all the tournaments.
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Did Artosis just orgasm over TY?
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Canada2764 Posts
On August 04 2017 19:30 Inflicted wrote:
Is there an American tourny soon? Can Neeb get the back2back Triple Crown
Montreal counts, but he needs another European tournament.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On August 04 2017 19:29 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2017 19:29 Lorning wrote:On August 04 2017 19:21 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
Man, what's with all these people wanting Koreans to win?
I mean, I don't dislike them, but just this attitude of wanting them to win to "prove" that foreigners are bad is so negative. I think there's a certain irony in the fact there's a tinge of elitism wanting to prove it's better (nobody is disputing that), compared to the old days when everybody wanted to cheer on every foreign player to do well as an underdog, and as some kind of support against the Koreans.
Irritating. Cause if you watch Korean SC2 for more than 6 years, you actually know where these guys come from and start cheering for them. I watched the very first season of GSL live mate. I even remember Rainbow and DJ DOC performing beforehand!
Then why is it hard to understand that someone cheers for ByuN (who's been around since 2010) instead of a foreigner? I barely know Neeb, why would I cheer for him over ByuN? Cause he's from the west and so am I? That's even a more stupid reason to cheer for someone in my opinion
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On August 04 2017 19:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2017 19:30 Ej_ wrote:On August 04 2017 19:27 Olli wrote:On August 04 2017 19:25 Durnuu wrote:On August 04 2017 19:23 c0sm0naut wrote:On August 04 2017 19:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Lol that cover of I Need a Hero. GSL always delivers on music i was fucking jamming edit: why sOs is here and not classic >.< clasic is the best toss right now everyone knows it No, Zest is. He won the GOAT tournament HSC, just like TaeJa did in his time Funny thing is that, if ladder is anything to go by (and it usually is), Zest actually is the best Protoss atm. But we won't see it cause he has nothing to play D: Oh yeah I remember when Artosis told me Zest was tearing up the ladder and he then didn't qualify for Code S. It took Rogue months of occupying the #1 spot at 7k mmr to win his IEM. Ladder can also be very different though. Showtime's ladder rank didn't waver when he crashed and burned out of all the tournaments.
Apparently only WCS tournaments from what I remember him saying.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
I thought triple crown was only with premier tournaments?
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On August 04 2017 19:31 Parrek wrote:
Did Artosis just orgasm over TY?
he did, he did
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On August 04 2017 19:31 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2017 19:29 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:On August 04 2017 19:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 04 2017 19:23 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:On August 04 2017 19:22 Heartland wrote:On August 04 2017 19:21 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
Man, what's with all these people wanting Koreans to win?
I mean, I don't dislike them, but just this attitude of wanting them to win to "prove" that foreigners are bad is so negative. I think there's a certain irony in the fact there's a tinge of elitism wanting to prove it's better (nobody is disputing that), compared to the old days when everybody wanted to cheer on every foreign player to do well as an underdog, and as some kind of support against the Koreans.
Irritating. I just have no faith in foreigners in Korea. Also, I like sOs and want him to win regardless of where he is from. I think there's a difference in thinking they're going to lose, and wanting them to lose. First is understandable, I think the second is lame. What? The simple fact is that some of the guys here actually like the korean players better. That happens naturally when you follow the korean scene closely tbh. Just like you want the korean to lose because you like the foreigner better, there is no difference I like the Korean players and I have those I prefer within it. I just want underdogs that are outside of the system to do well and compete with them - those on our ladders. On August 04 2017 19:27 207aicila wrote:On August 04 2017 19:21 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
Man, what's with all these people wanting Koreans to win?
I mean, I don't dislike them, but just this attitude of wanting them to win to "prove" that foreigners are bad is so negative. I think there's a certain irony in the fact there's a tinge of elitism wanting to prove it's better (nobody is disputing that), compared to the old days when everybody wanted to cheer on every foreign player to do well as an underdog, and as some kind of support against the Koreans.
Irritating. Or maybe, just maybe, some people simply prefer watching the absolute best Starcraft and tend to prioritise that. No reason to attribute to malice that which can be just aswwell explained by differences in opinion / preference. If the foreigners beat them, they deserve to be there. I want foreigners to be the best - that's why I want them to win. So just to understand it, if someone wants the koreans to win he is negative, etc but you wanting the foreigners to win is ok? Seems weird to me.
I mean, I'm kiwi. Pretty much everybody outside of NZ likes it when the All Blacks lose because it's the underdog winning.
The rare American rugby fan might watch Super Rugby, don't know who half their national team's players are, but if they were to watch the two teams if they ever came up against each other would support the Eagles.
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United States97276 Posts
overlords starting late after losing 2
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On August 04 2017 19:32 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2017 19:29 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:On August 04 2017 19:29 Lorning wrote:On August 04 2017 19:21 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
Man, what's with all these people wanting Koreans to win?
I mean, I don't dislike them, but just this attitude of wanting them to win to "prove" that foreigners are bad is so negative. I think there's a certain irony in the fact there's a tinge of elitism wanting to prove it's better (nobody is disputing that), compared to the old days when everybody wanted to cheer on every foreign player to do well as an underdog, and as some kind of support against the Koreans.
Irritating. Cause if you watch Korean SC2 for more than 6 years, you actually know where these guys come from and start cheering for them. I watched the very first season of GSL live mate. I even remember Rainbow and DJ DOC performing beforehand! Then why is it hard to understand that someone cheers for ByuN (who's been around since 2010) instead of a foreigner? I barely know Neeb, why would I cheer for him over ByuN? Cause he's from the west and so am I? That's even a more stupid reason to cheer for someone in my opinion
Plus he's a dirty traitor to the Terran race.
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On August 04 2017 19:30 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2017 19:29 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 04 2017 19:28 GumBa wrote:On August 04 2017 19:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 04 2017 19:23 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:On August 04 2017 19:22 Heartland wrote:On August 04 2017 19:21 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
Man, what's with all these people wanting Koreans to win?
I mean, I don't dislike them, but just this attitude of wanting them to win to "prove" that foreigners are bad is so negative. I think there's a certain irony in the fact there's a tinge of elitism wanting to prove it's better (nobody is disputing that), compared to the old days when everybody wanted to cheer on every foreign player to do well as an underdog, and as some kind of support against the Koreans.
Irritating. I just have no faith in foreigners in Korea. Also, I like sOs and want him to win regardless of where he is from. I think there's a difference in thinking they're going to lose, and wanting them to lose. First is understandable, I think the second is lame. What? The simple fact is that some of the guys here actually like the korean players better. That happens naturally when you follow the korean scene closely tbh. Just like you want the korean to lose because you like the foreigner better, there is no difference U disgust me. Koreans aren't even white you can't relate to them. How dare you cheer for them. TBF, it's definitely harder to relate to them because of the language barrier, but as i said we on TL are pretty hardcore so that's no real issue for a lot of us. Doesn't matter one bit to me because interviews are boring as fuck usually, foreigner or not.
Well soO is fucking hilarious.
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