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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 29 2017 04:27 GMT
#221
On July 29 2017 13:25 seemsgood wrote:
He hardly could 3-0 TY unless he is Myungsik.

He's 3-0d TY twice this year
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 29 2017 04:27 GMT
#222
On July 29 2017 13:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2017 13:24 geokilla wrote:
Damn that was a great game by herO. Did everything perfectly. The defense, the attacks, the harass, wow.

I mean it's not that hard to "defend" when you can tag the entire enemy army and thus the opponent doesn't even try to harass you. Srsly that spell is kinda stupid


Is David Kim's spirit offered to cut the duration of revelation in half in exchange for cutting the energy cost in half would you say yes?
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
July 29 2017 04:27 GMT
#223
On July 29 2017 13:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
imo, ZvZ is the worst of the 3 mirrors by far. i hope i get proven wrong in this next series.

Protoss seems to struggle against zerg recently.If terran playes all gone ZvZ is foreseenable.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 29 2017 04:28 GMT
#224
Don't get me wrong I think TY is the better player overall. But head to head herO is 7-1 against him this year
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2656 Posts
July 29 2017 04:28 GMT
#225
On July 29 2017 13:24 lolfail9001 wrote:
Innovation is doomed to not win more than 2 notable tournaments a year.


2 tournaments a year is really good tho
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 29 2017 04:29 GMT
#226
On July 29 2017 13:28 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2017 13:24 lolfail9001 wrote:
Innovation is doomed to not win more than 2 notable tournaments a year.


2 tournaments a year is really good tho

Understatement of the year.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
July 29 2017 04:29 GMT
#227
On July 29 2017 13:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
imo, ZvZ is the worst of the 3 mirrors by far. i hope i get proven wrong in this next series.

ZvZ has always been like ZvZ but personally I think it is still is better than ever in current meta.
After the roach war stage. Once tier 2/3 units like lurkers/ultra/infestor comes in the late game is much more interesting than back in HotS.
Occaionally muta games are fun as well.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
July 29 2017 04:30 GMT
#228
Also Zvz is the only match up we could see lurkers in action.Not sure what's wrong with this unit in this years.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 29 2017 04:31 GMT
#229
On July 29 2017 13:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2017 13:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 29 2017 13:24 geokilla wrote:
Damn that was a great game by herO. Did everything perfectly. The defense, the attacks, the harass, wow.

I mean it's not that hard to "defend" when you can tag the entire enemy army and thus the opponent doesn't even try to harass you. Srsly that spell is kinda stupid


Is David Kim's spirit offered to cut the duration of revelation in half in exchange for cutting the energy cost in half would you say yes?

I mean in theory the protoss has to be more active that way, but i don't think it would change much, maybe make it even stronger because you theoretically have more energy for other things when you don't wanna tag.
But yeah dunno, the spell itself shouldn't tag every unit in the area or something. (aka limiting the number of units).
Oh well
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 29 2017 04:32 GMT
#230
On July 29 2017 13:30 seemsgood wrote:
Also Zvz is the only match up we could see lurkers in action.Not sure what's wrong with this unit in this years.


Lurkers also pop up in PvZ though less often than a few months ago.
romson87
Profile Joined May 2016
Poland487 Posts
July 29 2017 04:33 GMT
#231
herO to defeat TY and win in the finals against soO
TL+ Member
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 29 2017 04:34 GMT
#232
On July 29 2017 13:33 romson87 wrote:
herO to defeat TY and win in the finals against soO

Cliche
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33608 Posts
July 29 2017 04:34 GMT
#233
ZvZ is good sometimes D:

At least it has a higher chance to be good than in WoL or HotS
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 29 2017 04:35 GMT
#234
On July 29 2017 13:31 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2017 13:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 29 2017 13:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 29 2017 13:24 geokilla wrote:
Damn that was a great game by herO. Did everything perfectly. The defense, the attacks, the harass, wow.

I mean it's not that hard to "defend" when you can tag the entire enemy army and thus the opponent doesn't even try to harass you. Srsly that spell is kinda stupid


Is David Kim's spirit offered to cut the duration of revelation in half in exchange for cutting the energy cost in half would you say yes?

I mean in theory the protoss has to be more active that way, but i don't think it would change much, maybe make it even stronger because you theoretically have more energy for other things when you don't wanna tag.
But yeah dunno, the spell itself shouldn't tag every unit in the area or something. (aka limiting the number of units).
Oh well


It would help a lot with defending DTs, banshees, and especially mines early on mostly. And make it weaker in the later phases of the game. What if David Kim's spirit offered to nerf the range to 7 from 9 on top of that?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 29 2017 04:35 GMT
#235
On July 29 2017 13:34 Waxangel wrote:
ZvZ is good sometimes D:

At least it has a higher chance to be good than in WoL or HotS


Or BW.
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
July 29 2017 04:36 GMT
#236
On July 29 2017 13:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2017 13:30 seemsgood wrote:
Also Zvz is the only match up we could see lurkers in action.Not sure what's wrong with this unit in this years.


Lurkers also pop up in PvZ though less often than a few months ago.

There was a time they are used in ZvT as well, back when people still experimenting with hydra after the buff.
Who knows, if the hydra ling/baneling meta stays someone might figure out a use for it again in ZvT
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 29 2017 04:37 GMT
#237
On July 29 2017 13:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2017 13:31 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 29 2017 13:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 29 2017 13:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 29 2017 13:24 geokilla wrote:
Damn that was a great game by herO. Did everything perfectly. The defense, the attacks, the harass, wow.

I mean it's not that hard to "defend" when you can tag the entire enemy army and thus the opponent doesn't even try to harass you. Srsly that spell is kinda stupid


Is David Kim's spirit offered to cut the duration of revelation in half in exchange for cutting the energy cost in half would you say yes?

I mean in theory the protoss has to be more active that way, but i don't think it would change much, maybe make it even stronger because you theoretically have more energy for other things when you don't wanna tag.
But yeah dunno, the spell itself shouldn't tag every unit in the area or something. (aka limiting the number of units).
Oh well


It would help a lot with defending DTs, banshees, and especially mines early on mostly. And make it weaker in the later phases of the game. What if David Kim's spirit offered to nerf the range to 7 from 9 on top of that?

Good point about defending early stuff. I mean you kinda nerf it, but my problem is the design behind it really. One click and you can see the whole enemy army. That's kinda ridiculous and that doesn't really change with some small tweaks here and there. Even if it is technically worse.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
July 29 2017 04:38 GMT
#238
On July 29 2017 13:36 Yiome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2017 13:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 29 2017 13:30 seemsgood wrote:
Also Zvz is the only match up we could see lurkers in action.Not sure what's wrong with this unit in this years.


Lurkers also pop up in PvZ though less often than a few months ago.

There was a time they are used in ZvT as well, back when people still experimenting with hydra after the buff.
Who knows, if the hydra ling/baneling meta stays someone might figure out a use for it again in ZvT

But i realized avilo's figured it out even in pre-3.8.
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
July 29 2017 04:38 GMT
#239
Randomly cut to Byun makes the commercial a lot better
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 29 2017 04:38 GMT
#240
On July 29 2017 13:36 Yiome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2017 13:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 29 2017 13:30 seemsgood wrote:
Also Zvz is the only match up we could see lurkers in action.Not sure what's wrong with this unit in this years.


Lurkers also pop up in PvZ though less often than a few months ago.

There was a time they are used in ZvT as well, back when people still experimenting with hydra after the buff.
Who knows, if the hydra ling/baneling meta stays someone might figure out a use for it again in ZvT


Lurkers just look really bad against almost everything Terran could conceivably go for.

And wow Wax is doing a great job with the news ticker.
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