EPTOn July 29 2017 13:25 seemsgood wrote:
He hardly could 3-0 TY unless he is Myungsik.
He hardly could 3-0 TY unless he is Myungsik.
He's 3-0d TY twice this year
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
He's 3-0d TY twice this year | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 29 2017 13:25 The_Red_Viper wrote: I mean it's not that hard to "defend" when you can tag the entire enemy army and thus the opponent doesn't even try to harass you. Srsly that spell is kinda stupid  Is David Kim's spirit offered to cut the duration of revelation in half in exchange for cutting the energy cost in half would you say yes? | ||
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seemsgood
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On July 29 2017 13:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote: imo, ZvZ is the worst of the 3 mirrors by far. i hope i get proven wrong in this next series. Protoss seems to struggle against zerg recently.If terran playes all gone ZvZ is foreseenable. | ||
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Fango
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Lexender
Mexico2655 Posts
On July 29 2017 13:24 lolfail9001 wrote: Innovation is doomed to not win more than 2 notable tournaments a year. 2 tournaments a year is really good tho | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Understatement of the year. | ||
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Yiome
China1687 Posts
On July 29 2017 13:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote: imo, ZvZ is the worst of the 3 mirrors by far. i hope i get proven wrong in this next series. ZvZ has always been like ZvZ but personally I think it is still is better than ever in current meta. After the roach war stage. Once tier 2/3 units like lurkers/ultra/infestor comes in the late game is much more interesting than back in HotS. Occaionally muta games are fun as well. | ||
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seemsgood
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The_Red_Viper
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On July 29 2017 13:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Is David Kim's spirit offered to cut the duration of revelation in half in exchange for cutting the energy cost in half would you say yes? I mean in theory the protoss has to be more active that way, but i don't think it would change much, maybe make it even stronger because you theoretically have more energy for other things when you don't wanna tag. But yeah dunno, the spell itself shouldn't tag every unit in the area or something. (aka limiting the number of units). Oh well | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On July 29 2017 13:30 seemsgood wrote: Also Zvz is the only match up we could see lurkers in action.Not sure what's wrong with this unit in this years. Lurkers also pop up in PvZ though less often than a few months ago. | ||
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romson87
Poland487 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On July 29 2017 13:33 romson87 wrote: herO to defeat TY and win in the finals against soO Cliche | ||
Waxangel
United States33524 Posts
At least it has a higher chance to be good than in WoL or HotS | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On July 29 2017 13:31 The_Red_Viper wrote: I mean in theory the protoss has to be more active that way, but i don't think it would change much, maybe make it even stronger because you theoretically have more energy for other things when you don't wanna tag. But yeah dunno, the spell itself shouldn't tag every unit in the area or something. (aka limiting the number of units). Oh well It would help a lot with defending DTs, banshees, and especially mines early on mostly. And make it weaker in the later phases of the game. What if David Kim's spirit offered to nerf the range to 7 from 9 on top of that? | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 29 2017 13:34 Waxangel wrote: ZvZ is good sometimes D: At least it has a higher chance to be good than in WoL or HotS Or BW. | ||
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Yiome
China1687 Posts
On July 29 2017 13:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Lurkers also pop up in PvZ though less often than a few months ago. There was a time they are used in ZvT as well, back when people still experimenting with hydra after the buff. Who knows, if the hydra ling/baneling meta stays someone might figure out a use for it again in ZvT | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On July 29 2017 13:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote: It would help a lot with defending DTs, banshees, and especially mines early on mostly. And make it weaker in the later phases of the game. What if David Kim's spirit offered to nerf the range to 7 from 9 on top of that? Good point about defending early stuff. I mean you kinda nerf it, but my problem is the design behind it really. One click and you can see the whole enemy army. That's kinda ridiculous and that doesn't really change with some small tweaks here and there. Even if it is technically worse. | ||
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seemsgood
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On July 29 2017 13:36 Yiome wrote: There was a time they are used in ZvT as well, back when people still experimenting with hydra after the buff. Who knows, if the hydra ling/baneling meta stays someone might figure out a use for it again in ZvT But i realized avilo's figured it out even in pre-3.8. | ||
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Yiome
China1687 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
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On July 29 2017 13:36 Yiome wrote: There was a time they are used in ZvT as well, back when people still experimenting with hydra after the buff. Who knows, if the hydra ling/baneling meta stays someone might figure out a use for it again in ZvT Lurkers just look really bad against almost everything Terran could conceivably go for. And wow Wax is doing a great job with the news ticker. | ||
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