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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-23 15:20:29
July 23 2017 15:20 GMT
#361
On July 24 2017 00:19 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 00:18 Soularion wrote:
On July 24 2017 00:17 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 00:16 Soularion wrote:
Maybe Serral is like the double slit experiment, and me observing him causes him to no longer be special, because the two tournaments I didn't watch (Katowice and Jonkoping) were the ones where he played really well.

Maybe you just don't watch many games at all and then extrapolate based on a very limited sample size. No need to make up fancy terms.

I mean, I've watched every major foreign event of the past couple years minus the two mentioned and I guess a HSC here and there, plus a solid amount of the qualifiers. It's a pretty ridiculous statement.

It's not that ridiculous when you call the player who occupied the #1 and #3 spot on the EU ladder for months "just good".

I mean he was also a whole map away from winning wcs after dominating the two previous EU qualifiers.
why even
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13324 Posts
July 23 2017 15:20 GMT
#362
On July 24 2017 00:20 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 00:19 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 00:18 Soularion wrote:
On July 24 2017 00:17 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 00:16 Soularion wrote:
Maybe Serral is like the double slit experiment, and me observing him causes him to no longer be special, because the two tournaments I didn't watch (Katowice and Jonkoping) were the ones where he played really well.

Maybe you just don't watch many games at all and then extrapolate based on a very limited sample size. No need to make up fancy terms.

I mean, I've watched every major foreign event of the past couple years minus the two mentioned and I guess a HSC here and there, plus a solid amount of the qualifiers. It's a pretty ridiculous statement.

It's not that ridiculous when you call the player who occupied the #1 and #3 spot on the EU ladder for months "just good".

I mean he was a whole map away from winning wcs after dominating the two previous EU qualifiers.

Nobody remembers the losers
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
July 23 2017 15:20 GMT
#363
He needed some beautiful fungals™
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
July 23 2017 15:22 GMT
#364
On July 24 2017 00:19 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 00:18 Soularion wrote:
On July 24 2017 00:17 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 00:16 Soularion wrote:
Maybe Serral is like the double slit experiment, and me observing him causes him to no longer be special, because the two tournaments I didn't watch (Katowice and Jonkoping) were the ones where he played really well.

Maybe you just don't watch many games at all and then extrapolate based on a very limited sample size. No need to make up fancy terms.

I mean, I've watched every major foreign event of the past couple years minus the two mentioned and I guess a HSC here and there, plus a solid amount of the qualifiers. It's a pretty ridiculous statement.

It's not that ridiculous when you call the player who occupied the #1 and #3 spot on the EU ladder for months "just good".

Ladder spots don't win you tournaments, and outside of Jonkoping, Serral doesn't have a single top 4 finish in his entire career. He's a good, talented player, I was just saying how I don't know if he can make the step from 'contender' to 'favorite'.

Lambo's above Elazer and TRUE on the EU Ladder, but I don't think that makes him the favorite over those two in a tournament setting, y'know?
Writermaru pls
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13324 Posts
July 23 2017 15:22 GMT
#365
Netherlands too strong
Harstem is gonna 3-0 ByuN too
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
July 23 2017 15:22 GMT
#366
Zest is not prepared
Neosteel Enthusiast
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 23 2017 15:22 GMT
#367
It's really funny how the new school Zergs can't beat Terran, but Nerchio and Snute bop 'em and twist 'em at every opporunity.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 23 2017 15:22 GMT
#368
Now can you rax-out a Protoss?
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
July 23 2017 15:23 GMT
#369
lol if Serral made some infestors this would've been an easy game for him
Faker is the GOAT!
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28535 Posts
July 23 2017 15:23 GMT
#370
uDirty really knows how to aggrevate his opponents, first Drogo now Serral

wp
I Protoss winner, could it be?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 23 2017 15:23 GMT
#371
On July 24 2017 00:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 00:16 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I'm in g4 of Gumiho - Zest. I see two proxies. Can't wait to see how it unfolds ^^

lol Zest should never have won that in any world of the full multiverse

the build he went for in g5 is beautiful though, I have to say I really want to try it
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
July 23 2017 15:23 GMT
#372
On July 24 2017 00:22 Ej_ wrote:
It's really funny how the new school Zergs can't beat Terran, but Nerchio and Snute bop 'em and twist 'em at every opporunity.

Need to be a grizzled veteran from the TvZ wars of years past to stand a chance.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
July 23 2017 15:24 GMT
#373
On July 24 2017 00:23 AzAlexZ wrote:
lol if Serral made some infestors this would've been an easy game for him

Easy is pretty optimistic.
why even
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
July 23 2017 15:24 GMT
#374
On July 24 2017 00:23 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 00:22 Ej_ wrote:
It's really funny how the new school Zergs can't beat Terran, but Nerchio and Snute bop 'em and twist 'em at every opporunity.

Need to be a grizzled veteran from the TvZ wars of years past to stand a chance.

By which you mean you need to make infestors
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
July 23 2017 15:25 GMT
#375
On July 24 2017 00:23 Penev wrote:
uDirty really knows how to aggrevate his opponents, first Drogo now Serral

wp

When you are 21 and are already balding, you lose empathy for your opponents
Neosteel Enthusiast
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
July 23 2017 15:25 GMT
#376
I wanna see Elazer vs ByuN to see if Elazer's ZvT has gotten any better, but I think ShoWTimE vs ByuN has the potential to be a fantastic series if ShoWTimE's in good form. Should be fun either way.
Writermaru pls
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
July 23 2017 15:25 GMT
#377
On July 24 2017 00:24 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 00:23 AzAlexZ wrote:
lol if Serral made some infestors this would've been an easy game for him

Easy is pretty optimistic.

no mines, no tanks, pure MMM,
yeah infestors would've been more than enough to get uthermal
Faker is the GOAT!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
July 23 2017 15:25 GMT
#378
On July 24 2017 00:25 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 00:23 Penev wrote:
uDirty really knows how to aggrevate his opponents, first Drogo now Serral

wp

When you are 21 and are already balding, you lose empathy for your opponents

Can confirm.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
July 23 2017 15:25 GMT
#379
On July 24 2017 00:24 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 00:23 AzAlexZ wrote:
lol if Serral made some infestors this would've been an easy game for him

Easy is pretty optimistic.

Yeah easy is overstating it but 5 or 6 burrowed infestors would have turned that around. Thermy gave him a lot of time and went full Bomber with his army.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-23 15:28:56
July 23 2017 15:25 GMT
#380
On July 24 2017 00:22 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 00:19 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 00:18 Soularion wrote:
On July 24 2017 00:17 Ej_ wrote:
On July 24 2017 00:16 Soularion wrote:
Maybe Serral is like the double slit experiment, and me observing him causes him to no longer be special, because the two tournaments I didn't watch (Katowice and Jonkoping) were the ones where he played really well.

Maybe you just don't watch many games at all and then extrapolate based on a very limited sample size. No need to make up fancy terms.

I mean, I've watched every major foreign event of the past couple years minus the two mentioned and I guess a HSC here and there, plus a solid amount of the qualifiers. It's a pretty ridiculous statement.

It's not that ridiculous when you call the player who occupied the #1 and #3 spot on the EU ladder for months "just good".

Ladder spots don't win you tournaments, and outside of Jonkoping, Serral doesn't have a single top 4 finish in his entire career. He's a good, talented player, I was just saying how I don't know if he can make the step from 'contender' to 'favorite'.

Lambo's above Elazer and TRUE on the EU Ladder, but I don't think that makes him the favorite over those two in a tournament setting, y'know?

Funnily enough, Serral fell off the #1 ladder spot when Elazer finished school and took it .

And yes, Serral was a favorite to win both previous WCS events (where he lost to Neeb by 1 map in Jonkoping and choked vs TRUE in Valencia, reminder that Serral had the best ZvZ record outside Korea (outside soO, to be precise) prior to that event)
but eh, I guess he wasn't one of the 2 players who won those tournaments so he isn't a favorite despite being mentioned as the favorite for each and every of those and feared by every single player who isn't Terran?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
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