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raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
March 05 2017 17:03 GMT
#1441
IMHO this tournament was way more interesting than Blizzcon.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
March 05 2017 17:03 GMT
#1442
On March 06 2017 02:03 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:02 pvsnp wrote:
It amuses me greatly that INno is proving me right about how he's a choker, despite so many people telling me otherwise last year.


?? TvT is super coinflippy. Just look at TY, winning two series 3-2. aLive won 3-2 and lost 2-3. Inno losing 2-3 after stomping Ryung 3-0 in no way proves he is a choker.


the rest of his career does that.

Did Mvp invent choking in that finals vs Life ?
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raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
March 05 2017 17:04 GMT
#1443
On March 06 2017 02:03 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:03 stuchiu wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:02 pvsnp wrote:
It amuses me greatly that INno is proving me right about how he's a choker, despite so many people telling me otherwise last year.


?? TvT is super coinflippy. Just look at TY, winning two series 3-2. aLive won 3-2 and lost 2-3. Inno losing 2-3 after stomping Ryung 3-0 in no way proves he is a choker.


the rest of his career does that.

Did Mvp invent choking in that finals vs Life ?

I feel sad everytime I think that we can't enjoy Life playing anymore...Zerg race feels lost without its king
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-05 17:05:38
March 05 2017 17:04 GMT
#1444
the rest of his career does that.

I guess you could say that given all the times he has not lived up to the hype. But Inno pulls a fucking massive hype train and he's only human (despite what we call him). He can't win every time he as the hype.

Two GSL trophies and two IEM trophies makes the most successful choker of all time if you wanna call him a choker.
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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-05 18:08:10
March 05 2017 17:04 GMT
#1445
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 05 2017 17:05 GMT
#1446
On March 06 2017 02:03 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:03 stuchiu wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:02 pvsnp wrote:
It amuses me greatly that INno is proving me right about how he's a choker, despite so many people telling me otherwise last year.


?? TvT is super coinflippy. Just look at TY, winning two series 3-2. aLive won 3-2 and lost 2-3. Inno losing 2-3 after stomping Ryung 3-0 in no way proves he is a choker.


the rest of his career does that.

Did Mvp invent choking in that finals vs Life ?


What is bl/infestor
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
March 05 2017 17:05 GMT
#1447
On March 06 2017 02:03 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:03 stuchiu wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:02 pvsnp wrote:
It amuses me greatly that INno is proving me right about how he's a choker, despite so many people telling me otherwise last year.


?? TvT is super coinflippy. Just look at TY, winning two series 3-2. aLive won 3-2 and lost 2-3. Inno losing 2-3 after stomping Ryung 3-0 in no way proves he is a choker.


the rest of his career does that.

Did Mvp invent choking in that finals vs Life ?

Nestea invented choking when he created the universe. It just took some time to be discovered.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 05 2017 17:05 GMT
#1448
On March 06 2017 02:02 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
It amuses me greatly that INno is proving me right about how he's a choker, despite so many people telling me otherwise last year.


?? TvT is super coinflippy. Just look at TY, winning two series 3-2. aLive won 3-2 and lost 2-3. Inno losing 2-3 after stomping Ryung 3-0 in no way proves he is a choker.

It's just his way of arguing that Mvp will forever be the GOAT
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 05 2017 17:06 GMT
#1449
On March 06 2017 02:04 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
the rest of his career does that.

I guess you could say that given all the times he has not lived up to the hype. But he pulls a fucking massive hype train and he's only human (despite what we call him). He can't win every time he as the hype.

Two GSL trophies and two IEM trophies makes the most successful choker of all time if you wanna call him a choker.


Both GSLs were won against soO and ByuL, Kongs. IEM gamescom was gainst soO again. Never said he wasn't successful, but playing under pressure isn't his strong point.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 05 2017 17:07 GMT
#1450
On March 06 2017 02:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:02 pvsnp wrote:
It amuses me greatly that INno is proving me right about how he's a choker, despite so many people telling me otherwise last year.


?? TvT is super coinflippy. Just look at TY, winning two series 3-2. aLive won 3-2 and lost 2-3. Inno losing 2-3 after stomping Ryung 3-0 in no way proves he is a choker.

It's just his way of arguing that Mvp will forever be the GOAT


This had nothing to do with Mvp?
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
March 05 2017 17:08 GMT
#1451
On March 06 2017 01:59 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 01:57 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 06 2017 01:56 flowSthead wrote:
On March 06 2017 01:54 pvsnp wrote:
But Mvp is a 4 times GSL champion. No one is even close to that.

In his day they had like 7 GSLs a year though.


It's less about the number of tournaments or prize money than how dominant a player is. There was a point in time where MVP had no equal. Picking between Byun, Innovation, and TY seems a toss up based on the tournament.

Byun looked less convincing than TY and INno I'd say. And aLive played pretty fantastic throughout. But yeah I agree with your point, he's not leading the field like Mvp could do back in the day.


It amuses me greatly that INno is proving me right about how he's a choker, despite so many people telling me otherwise last year.

Losing there is hardly a proof.
INno has been overrated a lot in 2017.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 05 2017 17:09 GMT
#1452
On March 06 2017 02:08 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 01:59 stuchiu wrote:
On March 06 2017 01:57 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 06 2017 01:56 flowSthead wrote:
On March 06 2017 01:54 pvsnp wrote:
But Mvp is a 4 times GSL champion. No one is even close to that.

In his day they had like 7 GSLs a year though.


It's less about the number of tournaments or prize money than how dominant a player is. There was a point in time where MVP had no equal. Picking between Byun, Innovation, and TY seems a toss up based on the tournament.

Byun looked less convincing than TY and INno I'd say. And aLive played pretty fantastic throughout. But yeah I agree with your point, he's not leading the field like Mvp could do back in the day.


It amuses me greatly that INno is proving me right about how he's a choker, despite so many people telling me otherwise last year.

Losing there is hardly a proof.
INno has been overrated a lot in 2017.


This might be true. It's always harder for me to tell with less LANs in 2016/17.
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True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3426 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-05 17:09:35
March 05 2017 17:09 GMT
#1453
On March 06 2017 02:03 raff100 wrote:
IMHO this tournament was way more interesting than Blizzcon.


For sure.

Semi finals + finals were especially great this IEM.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 05 2017 17:09 GMT
#1454
On March 06 2017 02:07 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:02 pvsnp wrote:
It amuses me greatly that INno is proving me right about how he's a choker, despite so many people telling me otherwise last year.


?? TvT is super coinflippy. Just look at TY, winning two series 3-2. aLive won 3-2 and lost 2-3. Inno losing 2-3 after stomping Ryung 3-0 in no way proves he is a choker.

It's just his way of arguing that Mvp will forever be the GOAT


This had nothing to do with Mvp?

Indirectly it always does
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
March 05 2017 17:09 GMT
#1455
On March 06 2017 02:03 raff100 wrote:
IMHO this tournament was way more interesting than Blizzcon.


Yes absolutely loved the format. And the panel desk was alot more analytically/game-focussed rather than just making jokes and memes + awesome that they were keeping up with other games being played. Made it feel more like a real big event.

Also so many high quality games + players have just become so good at microing and multitasking. Really fun to watch.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-05 17:11:00
March 05 2017 17:09 GMT
#1456
Both GSLs were won against soO and ByuL, Kongs. IEM gamescom was gainst soO again. Never said he wasn't successful, but playing under pressure isn't his strong point.

Gamescom was onesided I will give you that, but his GSL victories were against soO and ByuL when they were at the top of their game, trying their hardest to break the Kong curse before it solidified into permanence.


Losing there is hardly a proof.
INno has been overrated a lot in 2017.

Yeah, he is arguably the greatest player in the world, even now, but being the greatest doesn't mean you win every single match you play. TY is arguably better, ditto for Stats. Nobody else.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-05 17:10:28
March 05 2017 17:10 GMT
#1457
On March 06 2017 02:06 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:04 pvsnp wrote:
the rest of his career does that.

I guess you could say that given all the times he has not lived up to the hype. But he pulls a fucking massive hype train and he's only human (despite what we call him). He can't win every time he as the hype.

Two GSL trophies and two IEM trophies makes the most successful choker of all time if you wanna call him a choker.


Both GSLs were won against soO and ByuL, Kongs. IEM gamescom was gainst soO again. Never said he wasn't successful, but playing under pressure isn't his strong point.

Mvp won 2 GSLs against MKP and another one against squirtle
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 05 2017 17:11 GMT
#1458
TY I would never predict to win this - sure, he is great but in this competition ...? In any case, the results point to the matches being quite fun, could have been good.

I was finally snowboarding the whole day and regret nothing
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 05 2017 17:11 GMT
#1459
On March 06 2017 02:10 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:06 stuchiu wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:04 pvsnp wrote:
the rest of his career does that.

I guess you could say that given all the times he has not lived up to the hype. But he pulls a fucking massive hype train and he's only human (despite what we call him). He can't win every time he as the hype.

Two GSL trophies and two IEM trophies makes the most successful choker of all time if you wanna call him a choker.


Both GSLs were won against soO and ByuL, Kongs. IEM gamescom was gainst soO again. Never said he wasn't successful, but playing under pressure isn't his strong point.

Mvp won 2 GSLs against MKP and another one against squirtle


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/484252-greatest-players-of-all-time-the-finale
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
March 05 2017 17:11 GMT
#1460
On March 06 2017 02:07 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 02:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 06 2017 02:02 pvsnp wrote:
It amuses me greatly that INno is proving me right about how he's a choker, despite so many people telling me otherwise last year.


?? TvT is super coinflippy. Just look at TY, winning two series 3-2. aLive won 3-2 and lost 2-3. Inno losing 2-3 after stomping Ryung 3-0 in no way proves he is a choker.

It's just his way of arguing that Mvp will forever be the GOAT


This had nothing to do with Mvp?

Something you said didn't have to do with Mvp??
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
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