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[PkF] Wire
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pvsnp
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Byun looked less convincing than TY and INno I'd say. And aLive played pretty fantastic throughout. But yeah I agree with your point, he's not leading the field like Mvp could do back in the day. Yeah ByuN is still really good but look at him vs Stats compared to these finals. No comparison. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On March 06 2017 01:56 flowSthead wrote: It's less about the number of tournaments or prize money than how dominant a player is. There was a point in time where MVP had no equal. Picking between Byun, Innovation, and TY seems a toss up based on the tournament. That's because the lvl of competition back then was questionable at best compared to later  Let's not pretend this is like Flash dominating 2010 | ||
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Elentos
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He should have been out after the series vs GuMiho. | ||
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flowSthead
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On March 06 2017 01:57 [PkF] Wire wrote: Byun looked less convincing than TY and INno I'd say. And aLive played pretty fantastic throughout. But yeah I agree with your point, he's not leading the field like Mvp could do back in the day. Oh for sure this tournament Byun was worse. But it's only been a few months since Byun took all comers. I'm not counting him out yet. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On March 06 2017 01:58 Elentos wrote: He should have been out after the series vs GuMiho. oh yeah forgot about that one :D | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On March 06 2017 01:57 Fango wrote: This tournament was better than blizzcon tbh 6 man round robin groups are really sick | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On March 06 2017 01:57 [PkF] Wire wrote: Byun looked less convincing than TY and INno I'd say. And aLive played pretty fantastic throughout. But yeah I agree with your point, he's not leading the field like Mvp could do back in the day. It amuses me greatly that INno is proving me right about how he's a choker, despite so many people telling me otherwise last year. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
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On March 06 2017 01:59 flowSthead wrote: Oh for sure this tournament Byun was worse. But it's only been a few months since Byun took all comers. I'm not counting him out yet. oh yeah then I agree. Based on this tournament he didn't look as good but I'm pretty sure he's still a force to be reckoned with. | ||
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pvsnp
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Oh for sure this tournament Byun was worse. But it's only been a few months since Byun took all comers. I'm not counting him out yet. Gyeonggi was excusable, GSL because of nerves, but now Katowice too? Three strikes and you're out. ByuN is still really, really good don't get me wrong, but he doesn't have TY's TvP or Inno's TvZ and his TvT is awful. TY has best TvP. Inno has best TvZ. Everyone's (TY, Inno, aLive, Gumiho even) TvT is pretty close. | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On March 06 2017 01:59 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: 6 man round robin groups are really sick SSL seems to think so | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On March 06 2017 01:59 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: 6 man round robin groups are really sick Almost all of blizzcon was one sided series. The ro8 onwards here has been incredible with the exception of Dark-Serral | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24203 Posts
On March 06 2017 01:59 stuchiu wrote: It amuses me greatly that INno is proving me right about how he's a choker, despite so many people telling me otherwise last year. INno can only win vs people who choke worse than he does | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24203 Posts
On March 06 2017 02:00 Fango wrote: Almost all of blizzcon was one sided series. The ro8 onwards here has been incredible with the exception of Dark-Serral I'd have been curious to see how far Serral could have gone had he avoided Z altogether, his vP seemed incredible and we didn't see his vT. | ||
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stuchiu
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Zaros
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On March 06 2017 01:59 stuchiu wrote: It amuses me greatly that INno is proving me right about how he's a choker, despite so many people telling me otherwise last year. Because of this Terran dominance we didn't get to see much of their non TvT matchups. TY is obviously very good at TvP and TvT but innovation looked very good in TvZ. | ||
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pvsnp
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It amuses me greatly that INno is proving me right about how he's a choker, despite so many people telling me otherwise last year. ?? TvT is super coinflippy. Just look at TY, winning two series 3-2. aLive won 3-2 and lost 2-3. Inno losing 2-3 after stomping Ryung 3-0 in no way proves he is a choker. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24203 Posts
On March 06 2017 02:01 stuchiu wrote: Hmm, Olli said that build TY used is a direct hard counter to all robo builds. hard counter ? That's going a bit far I'd say. You don't have to expand and if you don't you can pull out enough units to deal with the push. Or at least I think so... | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On March 06 2017 02:01 Zaros wrote: Because of this Terran dominance we didn't get to see much of their non TvT matchups. TY is obviously very good at TvP and TvT but innovation looked very good in TvZ. I think INno and TY are even in TvT. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On March 06 2017 02:02 pvsnp wrote: ?? TvT is super coinflippy. Just look at TY, winning two series 3-2. aLive won 3-2 and lost 2-3. Inno losing 2-3 after stomping Ryung 3-0 in no way proves he is a choker. the rest of his career does that. | ||
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