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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 02 2017 21:12 GMT
#21
On March 03 2017 06:12 Musicus wrote:
Nerchio just has to win his ZvZs and one of the ZvPs pretty much, should be doable!

Or maybe finally Serral's breakout LAN???
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 02 2017 21:15 GMT
#22
Peronally I'm looking foward to seeing how ham Dark/Inno go against the foreigners. If they decide to go all-out Group D will basically be the Korea-shits-all-over-foreigners group.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15925 Posts
March 02 2017 21:16 GMT
#23
On March 03 2017 06:15 pvsnp wrote:
Peronally I'm looking foward to seeing how ham Dark/Inno go against the foreigners. If they decide to go all-out Group D will basically be the Korea-shits-all-over-foreigners group.

So like the other groups?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 02 2017 21:21 GMT
#24
On March 03 2017 06:15 pvsnp wrote:
Peronally I'm looking foward to seeing how ham Dark/Inno go against the foreigners. If they decide to go all-out Group D will basically be the Korea-shits-all-over-foreigners group.

I don't think there's much deciding involved, they're just gonna do their thing - roll over anyone worse than them with no mercy.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 02 2017 21:23 GMT
#25
On March 03 2017 06:15 pvsnp wrote:
Peronally I'm looking foward to seeing how ham Dark/Inno go against the foreigners. If they decide to go all-out Group D will basically be the Korea-shits-all-over-foreigners group.


The real question is which group will be the "Korea-doesn't-shit-all-over-foreigners group"
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 02 2017 21:25 GMT
#26
On March 03 2017 06:23 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2017 06:15 pvsnp wrote:
Peronally I'm looking foward to seeing how ham Dark/Inno go against the foreigners. If they decide to go all-out Group D will basically be the Korea-shits-all-over-foreigners group.


The real question is which group will be the "Korea-doesn't-shit-all-over-foreigners group"

Well either A, because Heromarine put up an amazing fight or C because it's by far the easiest.

There's a decent chance a foreigner advances from Group D but I still expect them to get shit on by at least Inno.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 02 2017 21:25 GMT
#27
On March 03 2017 06:23 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2017 06:15 pvsnp wrote:
Peronally I'm looking foward to seeing how ham Dark/Inno go against the foreigners. If they decide to go all-out Group D will basically be the Korea-shits-all-over-foreigners group.


The real question is which group will be the "Korea-doesn't-shit-all-over-foreigners group"


C.

The power of the motherland shall power Artur
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 02 2017 21:29 GMT
#28
On March 03 2017 06:25 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2017 06:23 Fango wrote:
On March 03 2017 06:15 pvsnp wrote:
Peronally I'm looking foward to seeing how ham Dark/Inno go against the foreigners. If they decide to go all-out Group D will basically be the Korea-shits-all-over-foreigners group.


The real question is which group will be the "Korea-doesn't-shit-all-over-foreigners group"


C.

The power of the motherland shall power Artur

I wonder if the motherland has enough power to overcome great psionic storms and massive fleets of carriers.

And heavily armored female aliens shooting laser discs.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 02 2017 21:38 GMT
#29
On March 03 2017 06:25 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2017 06:23 Fango wrote:
On March 03 2017 06:15 pvsnp wrote:
Peronally I'm looking foward to seeing how ham Dark/Inno go against the foreigners. If they decide to go all-out Group D will basically be the Korea-shits-all-over-foreigners group.


The real question is which group will be the "Korea-doesn't-shit-all-over-foreigners group"


C.

The power of the motherland shall power Artur


Is Nerchio the chosen one?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 02 2017 21:43 GMT
#30
On March 03 2017 06:38 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2017 06:25 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On March 03 2017 06:23 Fango wrote:
On March 03 2017 06:15 pvsnp wrote:
Peronally I'm looking foward to seeing how ham Dark/Inno go against the foreigners. If they decide to go all-out Group D will basically be the Korea-shits-all-over-foreigners group.


The real question is which group will be the "Korea-doesn't-shit-all-over-foreigners group"


C.

The power of the motherland shall power Artur


Is Nerchio the chosen one?


Yes!

until the next round
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 02 2017 21:44 GMT
#31
On March 03 2017 06:10 pvsnp wrote:
His TvT is worthy of the best, but his other matchups are nowhere close.

I agree. If I had to rate his match-ups, I'd have to say his TvT is top notch, top 3-4 in the world (on a level with INnoVation, aLive, etc.) and his TvP is decent (not world class like Inno or TY but on a similar level to say GuMiho or Bunny, so like top 8 or top 10). But his TvZ falls off so hard it's not even funny.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 02 2017 21:44 GMT
#32
Well its true that foreigners lost pretty badly in groups A and B, but imo "shits on" requires more than just losing badly. I was thinking either Dark/Inno wouldnt even drop a map or some other form of ridiculously outclassing the foreigners.
Basically its not enough to win. They have to win in a fashion that makes it look like there was never even a chance for their opponents to even think about the possibility of a foreigner win.

Like Dark at Blizzcon.
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sickkkciiityyy
Profile Joined February 2017
34 Posts
March 02 2017 21:45 GMT
#33
Serral is dark horse i think. He got huge potencial, lets see if he will show up. Nerchio and Showtime are two best Europe have so lets show up boys! Yes you can! Bring A game!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 21:48:11
March 02 2017 21:47 GMT
#34
On March 03 2017 06:44 pvsnp wrote:
Well its true that foreigners lost pretty badly in groups A and B, but imo "shits on" requires more than just losing badly. I was thinking either Dark/Inno wouldnt even drop a map or some other form of ridiculously outclassing the foreigners.
Basically its not enough to win. They have to win in a fashion that makes it look like there was never even a chance for their opponents to even think about the possibility of a foreigner win.

Like Dark at Blizzcon.

It wasn't even that bad. Snute beat Ryung, Heromarine beat Solar (who also beat Ryung), Heromarine especially was amazing. Harstem beat Stats and made it close against TY and jjakji.

So Korea has to step it up.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Majick
Profile Joined August 2016
416 Posts
March 02 2017 21:51 GMT
#35
On March 03 2017 06:29 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2017 06:25 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On March 03 2017 06:23 Fango wrote:
On March 03 2017 06:15 pvsnp wrote:
Peronally I'm looking foward to seeing how ham Dark/Inno go against the foreigners. If they decide to go all-out Group D will basically be the Korea-shits-all-over-foreigners group.


The real question is which group will be the "Korea-doesn't-shit-all-over-foreigners group"


C.

The power of the motherland shall power Artur

I wonder if the motherland has enough power to overcome great psionic storms and massive fleets of carriers.

And heavily armored female aliens shooting laser discs.

You underestimate the power of Polish pancakes.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 21:58:40
March 02 2017 21:58 GMT
#36
Yes Korea needs to step it up if it wants to shit all over foreigners.

Which is why I said it will be fun to see if Dark/Inno decide to take up that challenge or if they want to save their energy against weaker opponents (long day of matches like TY said so no need to waste energy).
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SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
March 03 2017 03:44 GMT
#37
Group C:

1)Zest
2)Nerchio
3)True
4)Patience
5)Serral
6)Pilipili

Zest is best. Strong protoss that can out PvP and PvZ everybody in this group. Nerchio stands a good chance against Zest but in the end, Zest can get abusive which will get into Nerchio's head. Nerchio can out ZvZ both True & Serral and shouldn't have problem with Pilipili. Patience could out edge True but I think with the current map pool (and the correct map bans!) True should be able to beat Patience. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see Patience instead of True for 3rd.

___

Group D:

1)Innovation
2)Dark
3)Mana
4)Gumiho
5)Showtime
6)Uthermal

I want to place somebody else at 1st, I really do...but I can't. Innovation is too good to bet against. I'm taking a calculated risk with Mana taking 3rd in this group. It will come down to him and Gumiho but I believe Mana can out edge Gumiho by the slightest of margins. Showtime, as much as he rocks, will unfortunately bomb out of this group. But at least he'll beat uThermal! <3
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
March 03 2017 05:36 GMT
#38
On March 03 2017 12:44 SidianTheBard wrote:

___

Group D:

1)Innovation
2)Dark
3)Mana
4)Gumiho
5)Showtime
6)Uthermal

I want to place somebody else at 1st, I really do...but I can't. Innovation is too good to bet against. I'm taking a calculated risk with Mana taking 3rd in this group. It will come down to him and Gumiho but I believe Mana can out edge Gumiho by the slightest of margins. Showtime, as much as he rocks, will unfortunately bomb out of this group. But at least he'll beat uThermal! <3


What has Mana done lately to make you rank him above Gumiho and Showtime ?
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-03 08:25:45
March 03 2017 08:24 GMT
#39
[image loading]

So this is my view from the window, pretty cool, right? But why am I looking from a window and posting on TL while in the Alps instead of snowboarding? Because I have a fucking throat infection and take antibiotics. And I have been told that I am forbidden from ignoring infections from now on and have to sit them out.

So I guess I am gonna watch IEM and post some genuine negativity, because my stupid life is worthless. Don't say I didn't warn you.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 03 2017 08:45 GMT
#40
Yup, that's a cool pic!
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